Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[InCiDeR]

Posted by Referee (here)
I would really like to see Jeff Bowmans left arm and hand.

[Hervé]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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Thanks for providing the clear evidence of what I wrote earlier (twice now, see post #489):

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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Since the broken glass is on the ground in front of the store, one can also infer that the window didn't break from the first pressure wave but from the vacuum generated back-flow.

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Also, the "Lens Crafters" front store windows appear to be double-paneled and the window on the left side has its front panel broken but not the one on the inside side since it's reflecting a street view.

This implies that the vacuum generated back-flow of the blast broke them all after the first high pressure wave may have cracked them.
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Following up on that, it implies that the blast was significant enough to generate enough vacuum to "suck in" towards itself healthy or cracked windows.

In other words, that was a real bomb too!

[Hervé]

Remember this guy and the whole theory built around his behaviour?:




... well... he came back! I guess he needed to process his adrenaline rush since he has functioning legs:

[Dennis Jonathan]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I think I've found a motive.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/04/23/boston-bombing-changes-lawmakers-views-on-drone-killings-of-americans-on-us-soil

[jackovesk]

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2013.04.23

Listen Download Hour 1 - Gordon Duff - Dumbest False Flag Yet? Part 1

Listen Download Hour 2 - Gordon Duff - Dumbest False Flag Yet? Part 2

[Cidersomerset]

Whether people believe this is a 'False Flag' or not a lot is happening at the moment !



While We're All Distracted with Boston Theatre, Congress Passes CISPA
Wednesday, 24 April 2013 11:56
Posted by David Icke



'He fought and defeated SOPA, a law similar to CISPA which Congress just passed
while we were all paying attention to the goings on in Boston.

Swartz was also a Harvard-recognized expert on institutional corruption. The Feds
took over a minor case he was involved with and turned it into potential multi-
decade prison sentence for him.

The claim is that he committed suicide in despair over the case. The reality is he
was in a positive state of mind when he died and he was a fighter. So how did he
really die?'

Read more: While We're All Distracted with Boston Theatre, Congress Passes CISPA





http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2013/0...th-boston.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/8...s-passes-cispa

[Cidersomerset]

This just does not feel right, but we have to consider it.........


US wars in Iraq, Afghanistan spurred Tsarnaev brothers to attack Boston - interrogators

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xb-zX0-gvFA

Published on 23 Apr 2013


The surviving Boston Marathon bombings suspect
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told interrogators that US-led
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan spurred him and his
brother to carry out last week's deadly assault,
US officials told media - READ MORE

[Cidersomerset]

Boston bombings: 'my children were set up'

This is different than the other vid posted earlier.

Were they being set up !!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EUmwgqVXw6o

Published on 23 Apr 2013


The mother of the men accused of the carrying
out the Boston Marathon bombings has said her
children had nothing to do with it. Zubeidat Tsarnaeva
told Channel 4 News that both were set up.

[sheme]

RT interview thinks FBI are not sure they have the bombers, this may be a US government excuse to pass cyber spy laws, and curb immigration.

[Cidersomerset]

The Terrorists Have Been Identified

This may have already been posted on it Corbett
asks why certain events are promoted more serious
than other bigger tragedies happening at the same
time. Pointing out the psyops of it all

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bYIPvWeQAtE

Published on 19 Apr 2013


SHOW NOTES AND MP3: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7301

The specter of terror is once again being raised to haunt the collective
consciousness of the American psyche. But as the terror meme rears its ugly head,
we see an understanding of false flag terrorism creeping into the mainstream
discourse. Join us this week on The Corbett Report as we explore the real terror
paradigm

[sheme]

If they said we will kill your family if you don't say what we tell you to , What would you say?

[Snookie]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
(WHO) is the real Jeff Bauman...





This guy...?



...or This guy..?







PS - Do the 's have it..?

What about the 'Hair & Hairline'..?

Nose..?

Facial features..?

PSS - I'll let (You) be the judge...

Not even close. Absolutely not. Eyebrows different, ridge on one guys forehead & not the other, ears different, lips different, noses way different.

[InCiDeR]

I apoligize beforehand for the long and slight off topic rant...


Some thoughts I had when I woke up today:

It would actually be easy to stop some speculations pretty early on.

For example if someone at infowars actually interviewed Jeff Bauman. Maybe they tried, maybe they will or maybe they consider it not important because what really matters are what consequences will come out of it all.

But what if they don't want to? Think about it.

Infowars are prosperous because of the speculation of a possible misinformation, deception or false flag.
TPTB are prosperous because of the speculation of a possible enemy, war or threat.

Any similarities?

If everyone spoke the truth there would be no need for infowars. If every false flag were solved instantly, there would be no need for infowars either. So instead of interviewing Jeff Bauman, and once and for all conclude this is not Nick Vogt and his wounds are actually real, it would be better to speculate one week or two... or forever... would it not? You keep the audience and the traffic to your website, and probably some money will come with it as well.

Are they really interested in the truth? Yes, I believe so, if there are some new speculations around the corner that will keep the wheels rolling. Because what will happen if they proved all theories and speculations in just one week? (Not likely to happen, but anyhow)

Then what? They will start a revolution that throws every person in power away? Not likely, huh? Who and what would take their place?

Honestly, why are we here in this thread? Because the speculation of a possibilty of misinformation, deception or a false flag? And that is the danger. It is easy to take new pieces of information and fit them into already existing theory of a false flag, instead of objective look at the new information.

I try to watch myself closely not to do that, because sometimes I find myself doing it. In those situations it seems like some part of me want this to be a false flag.

I ask myself why? Because that will prove to all that know me that I am not a nutcase? Because it will prove that the world is exactly as crazy as I thought it to be? ... or just for the thrill of it? Maybe I need my daily fix of possible misinformation to solve?

Maybe both the power that are and the alternative media is dependent of misinformation, deception and false flag... and that is actually a scary thought!


NOTE: I do like and respect Alex Jones and infowars, I think they doing a great job and have done much to awake many people. But I have no illusions, they have to make their living like anyone else.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Me think that it's time for some people to quit looking at the pictures of reality they conjured up in their mind and start confronting the actual, factual reality... real bodies got really chopped up in there.

I don't see many, if any, of us denying that.

If I should get blown to h*ll someday in some horrific fashion ... I hope no one will use the horrific nature of my departure to discourage questioning the larger circumstances, if they warrant questioning, surrounding my demise. At least let it be said that I did not die in vain.

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Me think that it's time for some people to quit looking at the pictures of reality they conjured up in their mind and start confronting the actual, factual reality... real bodies got really chopped up in there.

I don't see many, if any, of us denying that.

If I should get blown to h*ll someday in some horrific fashion ... I hope no one will use the horrific nature of my departure to discourage questioning the larger circumstances, if they warrant questioning, surrounding the circumstances of my demise. At least let it be said that I did not die in vain.

I guess I should have specified the comment to be addressed to the individuals who keep seeing the bombing site as a movie set, contrary to the graphic evidence as in "real bodies got really chopped up in there" (that's the "actual, factual reality" I was talking about...), just to maintain distractions and misdirections over something deadly serious... my bad.

Nothing against digging into the bigger picture that's behind this event and its occurrence.

PS:

Beware of psyops artists making you see things that aren't there... (see this post <---)

... as I called it in post # 464.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by sheme (here)
If they said we will kill your family if you don't say what we tell you to , What would you say?

I'd have to ask myself -- could I make a big enough difference to justify the death of my family?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I guess I should have specified the comment to be addressed to the individuals who keep seeing the bombing site as a movie set, contrary to the graphic evidence as in "real bodies got really chopped up in there" (that's the "actual, factual reality" I was talking about...), just to maintain distractions and misdirections over something deadly serious... my bad.

My take is that there are elements of real bombs and injuries, mixed with elements of stagecraft.

In other words, my asking whether some particular element was stagecraft doesn't mean that I think it was all stagecraft. Indeed, I don't think such. I think there were two real bombs and some real resulting injuries and deaths.

But the real reason for my previous response to you, about my own hypothetical (I hope!) gory death, was that your earlier post reminded me of the responses I have gotten to questioning previous events, such as 9/11. I've heard in response that I was dishonoring the dead by questioning the story we were being told of what happened, as if I were pissing on their grave.

That's not what you actually said ... you just posted the antecedent observation that real people died and were maimed. I agree with that.

But I had developed a bit of an allergic reaction to that correct observation that you made, as it sometimes has led to "politically correct indignation" being (ab)used to justify censoring critical analysis.

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)
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My take is that there are elements of real bombs and injuries, mixed with elements of stagecraft.

In other words, my asking whether some particular element was stagecraft doesn't mean that I think it was all stagecraft. Indeed, I don't think such. I think there were two real bombs and some real resulting injuries and deaths.

But the real reason for my previous response to you, about my own hypothetical (I hope!) gory death, was that your earlier post reminded me of the responses I have gotten to questioning previous events, such as 9/11. I've heard in response that I was dishonoring the dead by questioning the story we were being told of what happened, as if I were pissing on their grave.

That's not what you actually said ... you just posted the antecedent observation that real people died and were maimed. I agree with that.

But I had developed a bit of an allergic reaction to that correct observation that you made, as it sometimes has led to "politically correct indignation" being (ab)used to justify censoring critical analysis.

Thanks Paul for letting me know how you got that allergy (I guess you are not the only one either).

Personally, what I end up considering as the stagecraft portion of the incident is not in any fakery in the casualties but the fact that it was set right in front of a galore of media outlets,TVs, video crews, photographers, etc...

After all, according to Sue Arrigo, agencies have a large clientele to cater snuff films to... Rockefeller seemed to have been happy with 9-11 to the point of commissioning sculptures of people jumping off the buildings in memory of its gore... but weren't left on display due to mass public outcry.

[Hervé]

All right...

... now, for an attempt at lifting that curtain to see what's behind...

From http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22...with-the-cia/:

Was Boston Bombers ‘Uncle Ruslan’ with the CIA?
Posted on April 22, 2013 by Daniel Hopsicker

The uncle of the two men who set off bombs at the Boston Marathon, who struck the only grace note in an otherwise horrific week, worked as a “consultant” for the Agency for International Development (USAID) a U.S. Government Agency often used for cover by agents of the CIA, in the former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan during the “Wild West” days of the early 1990’s, when anything that wasn’t nailed down in that country was up for grabs.



“Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni of Montgomery Village Md., whose name was the top trending topic worldwide on Twitter last Friday for his plain-spoken condemnation of his two nephews, has had a checkered business career, that began well before he graduated (as Ruslan Z Tsarnaev) from Duke Law School in 1998.

Tsarni, a well-connected oil executive, is currently involved in an international criminal investigation into a Kazakh billionaire banker-turned-fugitive alleged to have absconded with $6 billion from Kazakhstan’s BTA Bank.

The story begins with The London Sunday Times on May 8, 2011, which reported the sale of the personal home of England’s Prince Andrew to billionaire Kazakh Oligarch Timur Kulibayev, who “controls that country’s oil industry and happens to be married to the daughter of its autocratic President Nursultan Nazarbayev.”

What does that have to do with "Uncle Ruslan?" Let's take a look.

"Can't tell your Oligarchs without a scorecard"

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A "connected" family?
Before the Tsarnaev family moved to the United States a decade ago, they lived in the northern Kyrgyz town of Tokmok, near the border with Kazakhstan, which is home of the country's largest ethnic Chechen community.

The day after the massive manhunt in the Boston area that led to the death of Tamerlan and the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Radio Free Europe and Kyrgyz Service correspondent Timur Toktonaliev traveled to Tokmok.

From there, he reported that the extended Tsarnaev family is well-known there, even beyond their local community.

“It is not known if there was anything more than a personal connection,” the story reported, “but organized crime boss Aziz Batukaev, who is also an ethnic Chechen, lived next door to the Tsarnaevs. Batukaev grew up and lived in Tokmok, but is now in Chechnya.

Halliburton executives, suspected CIA assets, Chechnyan crime bosses, oligarchs stealing billions from banks and laundering money with seeming impunity, fire-eaters, peacock-feathered stilt-walkers, and a girl swinging on a trapeze pouring vodka into ice sculptures shaped like naked male and female torsos…

If there hadn't been two of them, the investigation would already be pointing to a single misfit, a lone nut bomber.


Full article: http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22...-with-the-cia/

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)
Aha - another "update" on this. Consider the following Youtube analysis uploaded 3 days ago:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7-fDFZF9h8Y

Perhaps the young kid did have his backpack on, and someone Photoshopped it out of the image.

The photo was taken by David Green, and was uploaded to his Fazebook page. I downloaded the image, blew it up 1000x and saved a copy (as a PNG file, to have the most accurate representation with no more compression loss.)

HOWEVER, this 'analysis' needs to be done on the original file that came from the camera. If it was in RAW format in the camera, there is more detail in the dark areas that can easily be pulled from the image. If it was JPG, then it has already gotten some compression loss. If Fbook then compresses it again, it has undergone two steps of compression loss. So, with those caveats, here is the image:

Attachment 21246

(this should be a large picture, 895x789 pixels. If it gets smashed by the forum software, I'll upload it to a site and link it instead.)

Dennis