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    On Coast to Coast tonight...

    "UFO and paranormal researcher Len Kasten will discuss the alleged secret government exchange program with
    et's from the planet Serpo. He says he's chronicled the complete journey of the Serpo team using the expedition commander's diary and his communications with the US Defense Intelligence Agency's directors in charge of the program, and their contact with a race called the Ebens."

    Very interested in what Bill has to say here. Is the diary a new development?

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    I read the whole serpo memorandum years ago.....it isnt new, it may have just resurfaced....very interesting.

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    The show was cancelled last night in favor of the Boston marathon coverage,which was a massive disappointment. I don't mean to sound unfeeling, but every news station in the bloody country is carrying coverage of that in a 24hr loop...I can only take so.much.

    I'm not sure exactly which day it has been rescheduled for, but I'll post when I find out...

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    Re the Coast to Coast show with author Len Kasten tonight (Mon 22 April 2013), I wrote to George Noory and his producers a couple of days ago:

    Dear George, Lisa, Tom, All,

    You will remember me from my appearance on the show in December 2005 re the Serpo Project (probable real name: Project Crystal Knight). I am pleased that Len Kasten will be on the show Monday to discuss his book on the project.

    I'd be very happy to make myself for a brief appearance to add my $.02 worth (maybe a little more!). I know Len -- although I have NOT read his book -- and he was kind enough to ask me to write a foreword to it, which I confess I never got round to doing. If I had, I would have expanded on the following points which I would like to share if you are generous enough to offer me the opportunity on air:

    The reports are largely fiction (the staged 'releases' got more and more crazy) -- and there is evidence that the CIA, or at least one other agency, was grossly interfering with the DIA's planned partial release. But the stories do contain a core of truth. An exchange did happen.

    That an exchange did happen is confirmed by Bill Hamilton, Linda Howe, John Lear, and UFO documentarian Bob Emenegger. They all say that the team of US military scientists that went on the exchange numbered three -- not 12 -- one of whom died, one returned but was insane, and the third returned intact and compos mentis. I believe Linda Howe knows the name of the survivor, and will confirm.

    I came across several strong circumstantial confirmations of the story. Kerry Cassidy (of Project Camelot) and I were given the name of a reserve astronaut who was supposed to be still alive, then in his 70s. I would not reveal his name on air. But we looked him up on Google, and to our astonishment found his name and address and phone number. That was someone's blunder.

    So we planned a trip to his front door -- not to ambush him, but to deliver a well-written letter asking him to talk to us off-record. We hatched this plan at short notice while on the road, and never told a soul about it in writing or in person. When we drove up to his gate, his wife was waiting for us (and he was waiting at the door, 20 years away -- a tall, athletic man who appeared to be in his 70s). His wife tersely took the letter without a word.

    Clearly we had been expected, and our journey was tracked and/or bugged. We handed over the letter politely, but were never contacted... except for three months later, when I got an angry e-mail from Dr Christopher "Kit" Green. It berated me for "harassing the old man". (Thanks, Kit, for the confirmation! That was your mistake.)

    We also heard about a retired AF Colonel of 33 years experience, not on the internet, who was given a hard copy print-out of all the initial Serpo releases. He responded, shocked: "My God, how could they release all this classified information?" He then went totally dark, and I was unable to find out more.

    Rick Doty was definitely involved in the story. Kerry and I met with him personally, off-record, in LA for three hours in early 2006 at Kerry's house. He was genuinely bothered and frustrated. He said the release was getting all messed up. He insisted he was just a small-part player behind the scenes. "If I was managing all this", he told us, "It'd be a class act."

    Later, I received a long letter from someone who had been working in NORAD in the 70s. He had Top Secret access, and told me that there was a lot of 'scuttlebutt' about a highly secret project that had been called "Project Crystal Knight". He did not know what it was at the time, but years later, after reading the Serpo material, realized that this was what was being referred to. The late Dr Fred Bell also told Dr Bill Deagle in a radio show that he too had heard of the exchange program several years before it was publicized in 2005. There is no smoke without fire.

    With my best wishes --

    Bill Ryan
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    I've not received a reply, and will be surprised now if I'm invited on the show at very short notice. I confess I was disappointed, as I could have told a very good (and interesting) story or two, and woven it all into the foundation of Projects Camelot and Avalon.

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    I'm sure I speak for the rest of Avalon when I say we are disappointed too however one could always share here Bill I feel we would be a far more appreciative audience...


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    I'm sure I speak for the rest of Avalon when I say we are disappointed too however one could always share here Bill I feel we would be a far more appreciative audience...

    And I second that

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    Well you've beaten me to it Bill...the Serpo program will indeed be airing tonight. I'm very excited.

    How did you reach the producers? Is there a public email address? For what it's worth, I'd like to write in myself(and perhaps a few others here) and request your presence on the show. Maybe with a little Avalonian magic.we.could get you on...

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    OK..just discovered the producer's emails.on the coast site..

    Sent off what I felt was a pretty persuasive request. Lives were not threatened but I did the next best thing - I begged.

    Either way I'm looking forward to a fascinating show.

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    Glad you made it onto the show Bill!



    Already posted by anin on the Up @ The Ranch thread belongs here too!


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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Glad you made it onto the show Bill!



    Already posted by anin on the Up @ The Ranch thread belongs here too!

    Bill made it - back in December of 2005. To be clear, the show you posted is this one: Project Serpo - Date: 12-06-05 - Coast to Coast AM with George Noory.
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    this is the latest one on C2Cam in April 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tlhDzrmr5A without Bill

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    Oh no shame on me! apologies to all!


    Still a great listen I had not heard it before this time.


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    Oh no shame on me! apologies to all!


    Still a great listen I had not heard it before this time.

    Well I didn't wrote it in the other thread when this interview was made. I made a correction now.

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    Re the Coast to Coast show with author Len Kasten tonight (Mon 22 April 2013), I wrote to George Noory and his producers a couple of days ago:

    Dear George, Lisa, Tom, All,

    You will remember me from my appearance on the show in December 2005 re the Serpo Project (probable real name: Project Crystal Knight). I am pleased that Len Kasten will be on the show Monday to discuss his book on the project.

    I'd be very happy to make myself for a brief appearance to add my $.02 worth (maybe a little more!). I know Len -- although I have NOT read his book -- and he was kind enough to ask me to write a foreword to it, which I confess I never got round to doing. If I had, I would have expanded on the following points which I would like to share if you are generous enough to offer me the opportunity on air:

    The reports are largely fiction (the staged 'releases' got more and more crazy) -- and there is evidence that the CIA, or at least one other agency, was grossly interfering with the DIA's planned partial release. But the stories do contain a core of truth. An exchange did happen.

    That an exchange did happen is confirmed by Bill Hamilton, Linda Howe, John Lear, and UFO documentarian Bob Emenegger. They all say that the team of US military scientists that went on the exchange numbered three -- not 12 -- one of whom died, one returned but was insane, and the third returned intact and compos mentis. I believe Linda Howe knows the name of the survivor, and will confirm.

    I came across several strong circumstantial confirmations of the story. Kerry Cassidy (of Project Camelot) and I were given the name of a reserve astronaut who was supposed to be still alive, then in his 70s. I would not reveal his name on air. But we looked him up on Google, and to our astonishment found his name and address and phone number. That was someone's blunder.

    So we planned a trip to his front door -- not to ambush him, but to deliver a well-written letter asking him to talk to us off-record. We hatched this plan at short notice while on the road, and never told a soul about it in writing or in person. When we drove up to his gate, his wife was waiting for us (and he was waiting at the door, 20 years away -- a tall, athletic man who appeared to be in his 70s). His wife tersely took the letter without a word.

    Clearly we had been expected, and our journey was tracked and/or bugged. We handed over the letter politely, but were never contacted... except for three months later, when I got an angry e-mail from Dr Christopher "Kit" Green. It berated me for "harassing the old man". (Thanks, Kit, for the confirmation! That was your mistake.)

    We also heard about a retired AF Colonel of 33 years experience, not on the internet, who was given a hard copy print-out of all the initial Serpo releases. He responded, shocked: "My God, how could they release all this classified information?" He then went totally dark, and I was unable to find out more.

    Rick Doty was definitely involved in the story. Kerry and I met with him personally, off-record, in LA for three hours in early 2006 at Kerry's house. He was genuinely bothered and frustrated. He said the release was getting all messed up. He insisted he was just a small-part player behind the scenes. "If I was managing all this", he told us, "It'd be a class act."

    Later, I received a long letter from someone who had been working in NORAD in the 70s. He had Top Secret access, and told me that there was a lot of 'scuttlebutt' about a highly secret project that had been called "Project Crystal Knight". He did not know what it was at the time, but years later, after reading the Serpo material, realized that this was what was being referred to. The late Dr Fred Bell also told Dr Bill Deagle in a radio show that he too had heard of the exchange program several years before it was publicized in 2005. There is no smoke without fire.

    With my best wishes --

    Bill Ryan
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    I've not received a reply, and will be surprised now if I'm invited on the show at very short notice. I confess I was disappointed, as I could have told a very good (and interesting) story or two, and woven it all into the foundation of Projects Camelot and Avalon.
    Hello Bill, I wish George would have had you on last night. I listened to your
    interview years ago and it was fantastic! Len Kasten referenced you several
    times last night. Len said when he went to the Ufo congress in Nevada in
    2006 he was in awe of the serpo story you told.. Len IMO did an alright
    job in explaining serpo but your interview was a true Coast Classic!
    Bill I do have a question. Len said last night that the ebens believed in
    a Creator or God. Did they have a name that they called their God?

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    As soon as I saw the name Rick Doty when following the serpo story, I knew it would be disinfo at best, total rubbish at worst.

    Doty was part of the Paul Bennawitz psyop and drove him to suicide.

    The only purpose for the serpo story is to distract people away from something else.

    Nobody should be impressed by the 'such great detail' that is often referred to.

    Govt psyop teams have as much of your tax dollars to spend and time to spend on such detail.
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    I used to love reading all of the hidden project/surreal UFO type stories. I tended to believe them just because I wanted them to be true, and for the most part they sounded so plausible. The first time I ever investigated anything in depth though, I realised how stupid I'd been putting my trust in a bunch of anonymous storytellers and duped "researchers". This stinks of the same pile of hoping its plausible because it sounds so fascinating.


    However, as soon as one starts properly digging into these stories, they start to collapse in on themselves like a poorly constructed escape tunnel. That alone should be enough to convince most people that something isn't quite right with the story in the first place. It's convincing the rest that is the challenge.

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    Hello Bill, I wish George would have had you on last night. I listened to your
    interview years ago and it was fantastic! Len Kasten referenced you several
    times last night. Len said when he went to the Ufo congress in Nevada in
    2006 he was in awe of the serpo story you told.. Len IMO did an alright
    job in explaining serpo but your interview was a true Coast Classic!
    Bill I do have a question. Len said last night that the ebens believed in
    a Creator or God. Did they have a name that they called their God?
    No such name was ever reported. It should be noted that I (like many others) hold much of the claimed testimony in the Commander's diaries in very considerable doubt. I believe Len Kasten was pretty naive to take it all at face value. A little intelligent research puts a rather different slant on things.

    To wit: I went through the 'diaries' line by line, and it was clear (from significant typo homophones such as 'hostel' for 'hostile') that the so-called diaries were actually audio transcripts. I guessed that the stream-of-consciousness format of the audio was from hypnosis sessions, and Victor Martinez agreed with me. Assuming that's what happened, this alone would explain a great deal.

    Imagine for a moment the sanest of the three -- not 12! -- scientists returning to Earth as more or less intact but with (at least) partial amnesia. Hypnosis would have been used to try to extract what really happened up there. And the mental capacity and deep implanting knowledge of the Greys/'Ebens' would have been enough to scramble any testimony. What really happened we do not know, and the USG still may not really know either.

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    ... from the Kevin Moore Show sharing about Project Serpo with guest Chris Iverson.

    Question, if the exchange programs are still ongoing as Iverson states could there be humans allowed to work with ETs outside of such programs like Serpo? Would our gov allow it if people on the project witnessed other humans living or being on a foreign planet?

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