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    Default Re: Keeping Calm and Carrying On after the Boston Marathon

    Just came across this, which I believe shows that W. H. Auden was a kindred soul to those of us here on Avalon:

    September 1, 1939

    by W. H. Auden
    I sit in one of the dives
    On Fifty-second Street
    Uncertain and afraid
    As the clever hopes expire
    Of a low dishonest decade:
    Waves of anger and fear
    Circulate over the bright
    And darkened lands of the earth,
    Obsessing our private lives;
    The unmentionable odour of death
    Offends the September night.

    Accurate scholarship can
    Unearth the whole offence
    From Luther until now
    That has driven a culture mad,
    Find what occurred at Linz,
    What huge imago made
    A psychopathic god:
    I and the public know
    What all schoolchildren learn,
    Those to whom evil is done
    Do evil in return.

    Exiled Thucydides knew
    All that a speech can say
    About Democracy,
    And what dictators do,
    The elderly rubbish they talk
    To an apathetic grave;
    Analysed all in his book,
    The enlightenment driven away,
    The habit-forming pain,
    Mismanagement and grief:
    We must suffer them all again.

    Into this neutral air
    Where blind skyscrapers use
    Their full height to proclaim
    The strength of Collective Man,
    Each language pours its vain
    Competitive excuse:
    But who can live for long
    In an euphoric dream;
    Out of the mirror they stare,
    Imperialism's face
    And the international wrong.

    Faces along the bar
    Cling to their average day:
    The lights must never go out,
    The music must always play,
    All the conventions conspire
    To make this fort assume
    The furniture of home;
    Lest we should see where we are,
    Lost in a haunted wood,
    Children afraid of the night
    Who have never been happy or good.

    The windiest militant trash
    Important Persons shout
    Is not so crude as our wish:
    What mad Nijinsky wrote
    About Diaghilev
    Is true of the normal heart;
    For the error bred in the bone
    Of each woman and each man
    Craves what it cannot have,
    Not universal love
    But to be loved alone.

    From the conservative dark
    Into the ethical life
    The dense commuters come,
    Repeating their morning vow;
    "I will be true to the wife,
    I'll concentrate more on my work,"
    And helpless governors wake
    To resume their compulsory game:
    Who can release them now,
    Who can reach the deaf,
    Who can speak for the dumb?

    All I have is a voice
    To undo the folded lie,
    The romantic lie in the brain
    Of the sensual man-in-the-street
    And the lie of Authority
    Whose buildings grope the sky:
    There is no such thing as the State
    And no one exists alone;
    Hunger allows no choice
    To the citizen or the police;
    We must love one another or die.

    Defenceless under the night
    Our world in stupor lies;
    Yet, dotted everywhere,
    Ironic points of light
    Flash out wherever the Just
    Exchange their messages:
    May I, composed like them
    Of Eros and of dust,
    Beleaguered by the same
    Negation and despair,
    Show an affirming flame.

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    David has put up a detailed post on yesterdays event.....





    Powerful Stuff there, all in the name of (TRUTH) Cidersomerset...

    A (MUST WATCH) if you missed it...

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Boston marathon blasts 'knocked me to the ground'







    Published on 16 Apr 2013

    Two blasts at the Boston marathon leave at least three people dead and dozens injured.
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    On the psychology of it all, from http://www.nomorefakenews.com/:

    Quote [...]

    Most people live their days in a more or less steady state of mind. They perform routine tasks over and over. They see their daily environment as quite familiar. All this produces what could be called a light trance.

    If that seems improbable, notice what happens when something completely unexpected intrudes on habitual perception and experience. Shock is what happens.

    It’s as if the person had been sleeping and suddenly and forcibly wakes up.

    On a quiet residential street, a car plows into a lamp post. On a peaceful boulevard, a gust of wind blows a sign from its hinges into a store window, smashing it.

    People are shocked. They look up. “Wow. Where was I?” Yes, it’s like waking from a dream.

    Multiply that effect by a thousand. Bombs go off. The sounds of the explosions, the shock waves, people falling, people bleeding, grotesque injuries, death. In the space of a few seconds, and on a street where nothing ever happens.

    And one layer removed from this, the world watches it unfold on television.

    It’s a rip in the fabric of perceived reality. Right now.

    Retired psyop planner, Ellis Medavoy (pseudonym), told me in a 2002 interview: “People think it’s very esoteric to talk about disruption in the space-time wave. But setting up certain psyops is very much about that. The theory of these operations has everything to do with the fact that people exist in an average and consistent space-time wave.

    “They become used to that. They’re not even aware of it. So a psyop can go two ways. It can encourage that form of sleep, to make it continue. Or it can blow people right out of their wave into something that’s very disorienting.

    “In the latter case, you’re forcing people out of their average perception of space and time, but you’re not giving them anything to replace it. They’re hanging in a void, so to speak.

    “What’s the result? People desperately want a resolution of the psyop, so they can return to their former continuum. And because they feel desperate, they’ll take whatever and whoever you give them. You can say a deer chewed on a power cable and blew out the power for the entire east coast for a week, and they’ll believe you.

    “And that’s what you want. The ability to say anything and have people believe you.”


    I asked Medavoy if this included peppering the public with contradictions in the official account of a terrorist attack.

    “Of course,” he said. “They’ll overlook those contradictions. They won’t pay any attention to them. They’re so panicked, they just want a resolution. You can plug in anybody as the guilty party, and they’ll buy it.”


    Later in the conversation, I went back to the subject of the “space-time wave.”

    Medavoy said: “The psychology on this is clear. An overwhelming percentage of people deal with space-time in a passive way. They receive it, so to speak. They are presented with that fundament of reality and they blindly accept it. Therefore, when you take it away, they’re lost. A tiny percentage of the population, those who are intensely creative, react differently. That’s because they are, in a real sense, projecting their own space and time.”

    Psyops planners who stage events are aware of these factors. They want to create a world, a picture of a world, that is in dangerous flux and absolutely requires our “leaders” to stop that flux.
    [...]
    Full article: http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/20...ck-are-psyops/
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    'US security mega-profits don't protect people'



    Published on 16 Apr 2013


    3 people were killed and 176 injured in the twin blasts that rocked the finish-line of
    the race. 17 of those are in a critical condition - and police still have no suspect.
    The 9/11 attacks in the United States heralded an era of heightened security
    measures - some of which were severely criticised by human rights groups. Anti-
    war activist Brian Becker says America's security web has been proven a failure, no
    matter how much money is being poured into it.

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    In my opinion, it´s too soon to call it a false flag. We need more information.
    The opening post of this thread says:
    A 'former' FBI operative tries to explain this away and then says that security in America must be stepped up.
    That is how we know. That is the "information" we need. The actual details of who planned and carried out this bombing are secondary.

    It is what the "authorities" do with the event that matters.

    If the mass media, officials, police, mayors, governors and presidents use such an event to justify more tyranny, more war, more denial of the people's freedom, property or lives ... that is the smoking gun!
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    In my opinion, it´s too soon to call it a false flag. We need more information.
    The opening post of this thread says:
    A 'former' FBI operative tries to explain this away and then says that security in America must be stepped up.
    That is how we know. That is the "information" we need. The actual details of who planned and carried out this bombing are secondary.

    It is what the "authorities" do with the event that matters.

    If the mass media, officials, police, mayors, governors and presidents use such an event to justify more tyranny, more war, more denial of the people's freedom, property or lives ... that is the smoking gun!
    another big clue is that an exersize involving bombs was going on at the same time, at the same location.... a VERY common theme in today's False Flag attacks.
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    No doubt the government will use the crisis to further an agenda (a la Rahm Emmanuel) but that does not mean that they perpetrated the attack. The world is full of disgruntled and crazy people.

    It is unavoidable that the government will do all sorts of stupid things in the aftermath of this event. That is what governments do.

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    Boston - eyewitness reports





    Published on 16 Apr 2013


    Matt Frei talks to Fatma Tanis, a student who was filming the marathon when the
    explosions happened and Abi Griffiths, a British TV sports presenter who was
    running the marathon.

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    We are back to 'CIADA' the group that pulled off the most daring raid on 9/11 are now 'cooking the Books' !! A bit of a come down !!






    Home-made devices in Boston Marathon attack were made from pressure cooker
    bombs - al Qaeda's 'most effective weapon' - and featured in terror guide 'Make a
    Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom'

    Police believe shrapnel consisting of metal fragments and nails was packed into
    pressure cookers and designed to look like discarded items
    Pressure cooker bomb is preferred weapon of al Qaeda, and was used in Times
    Square bomb attempt in 2010

    Authorities reportedly find circuit board that may have been used to detonate bomb

    Doctor says that numerous sharp metal objects were extracted from victims of the blasts


    By Thomas Durante and Associated Press

    PUBLISHED: 04:24, 16 April 2013 | UPDATED: 22:38, 16 April 2013

    The terrorist or group behind the horrific Boston Marathon carnage detonated two
    bombs made from kitchen pressure cookers packed with metallic pieces and nails -
    a method that has been featured in a notorious terror propaganda article.


    The twin bombing at the finish line of the historic race killed at least three people -
    including an 8-year-old boy - while injuring 176 others.

    A bomb designed from a pressure cooker is a preferred weapon of al Qaeda
    terrorists, and was listed as the 'most effective' weapon of jihad in the English-
    language terror magazine called Inspire.

    Instructions on how to build a pressure cooker bomb were featured in the infamous
    Inspire article 'Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.'









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    The terrorist or group behind the horrific Boston Marathon carnage detonated two
    bombs made from kitchen pressure cookers packed with metallic pieces and nails -
    a method that has been featured in a notorious terror propaganda article.


    The twin bombing at the finish line of the historic race killed at least three people -
    including an 8-year-old boy - while injuring 176 others.

    A bomb designed from a pressure cooker is a preferred weapon of al Qaeda
    terrorists, and was listed as the 'most effective' weapon of jihad in the English-
    language terror magazine called Inspire.

    Instructions on how to build a pressure cooker bomb were featured in the infamous
    Inspire article 'Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.'


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2QfJw7q5p
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook





    Weapon: The method used to make the bomb is reminiscent of the failed attempt
    to bomb Times Square by Faisal Shazad in 2010 - and other terror strikes in India,
    Pakistan and Afghanistan

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2QfLxJB9N
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    DAILY NEWS.........

    Bombs at Boston Marathon were made from pressure cookers and ball bearings

    No suspects named in blast that killed three and injured 176, and authorities
    cleared a Saudi man. Obama calls it an 'act of terror.'


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz2QfNAxjz6

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1317904
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    Keeping Calm and Carrying On after the Boston Marathon
    I am just observing about how people are reacting to yesterday's bombing at the Boston Marathon and comparing to the aftermath of other terror incidents that also had heavy media coverage and it makes me wonder: have we evolved in the 12 years since 9/11?

    After 9/11, I remember a huge outcry for revenge coupled with a wave of anti-Islamic, anti-Arab sentiment. This drove us into at least two senseless violent wars (Afghanistan & Iraq.) and beginning with the Patriot Act, into the beginnings of a fascist police state. All because "we asked for it" in reaction to those events.

    So, what are we asking for now?
    All my LOVE to the victims and their loved-Ones and friends.

    Kindred-Souls-n-Enlightened-Beings have collective responsibilities, Responsibilities to stay above the level those who have only their own little interests at heart, in their little hearts!

    Quote So, was this a false flag event meant to strike fear into our hearts that is failing? Or, is this a false flag event that is meant to have some other intention, other than scaring us? It was interesting that CNN noted in a headline, that Obama's speech did not include the word "terror" - which was like an intentional decision by White House speech writers, and perhaps the forces that stand behind them.
    This year I've come to feel this more and more with every False-Flag atrocities that I see. I studied all the alternative videos and evidence from 9/11. They the so called leaders do not surprise or shock me anymore, I can believe they are capable of anything now! But revelation has freed my soul, they do not make my inner self fear. Their actions actually help me rise up not in anger but in LOVE. This wouldn't have happened last year I would have been very angry and would have taken it to heart and so would have been damaged, but not anymore.

    Quote It hasn't even been 24 hours since the event, but it will be interesting to see who "they" try to put the blame on, and how "we" react to it. Are we failing to react to this event in the manner they have prescribed, or have the prescribed a new manner for us to react? Only time will tell.
    Don't let this in to your HEART and SOUL, if you do you will lower yourself towards them; rise up above them.
    Do not get me wrong I care deeply for the victims every time, PEACE and LOVE to them from my HEART and SOUL.


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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Maybe they needed something to help gloss over the release of this report.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3092775.html

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    At 26 seconds into the graphic video taken shortly after the blast, (2nd post by Cidersomerset) a woman appears in the shot with # beast 25202 on the back of her top. I have no idea what it could mean, if anything at all, but it just jumped out at me for some reason. I'd be happy to know if any of you fashionable types could confirm this is just a brand name or something.

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    All my LOVE to the victims and their loved-Ones and friends.

    Kindred-Souls-n-Enlightened-Beings have collective responsibilities, Responsibilities to stay above the level of those who have only their own little interests at heart, in their little hearts!

    try not to react with anger and darkened wishes, the judgment of such beings is out of our realm!
    Don't let this in to your HEART and SOUL, if you do you will lower yourself towards them; rise up above them into the light.
    Do not get me wrong I care deeply for the victims every time, every time so many times.
    PEACE and LOVE to them from my HEART and SOUL.
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Would there be anywhere where say on a police dept website which would actually say 'there will be a bomb exercise on this date and this time"?
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    It's a gang war incident, sorry it doesn't look like those old black and white movies with the guys hanging off the sides of the 40's coups. But that would be a bit of a giveaway right... But that is what it looks like in 2013. Yes, they look just like police officers, hard to believe? Anyhow of course they did know about it, some deal went bad, somebody threatened, somebody got tipped off... and they were trying to go 'undercover' to counter it (what bravado) The first thing that struck me was that photo of all the cops in their perfectly uniform green vests and sunglasses... Could have been a chic fashion photo shoot.

    The idea they brought all those dogs and did all those drills "just in case" is a crock in my opinion. They KNEW. But it is an interesting question why they didn't say... So much for the public comes first, and by definition, they DIDN'T do everything they could have.

    What are they going to say another criminal faction of the government wants to disrupt the Boston Marathon? ...hmmm now who would be the enemy of the government crime syndicate in Boston? hmmm.... This one wasn't televised with a ready made script because it wasn't the Boston municipal governments agency cooking it up... they just knew it was going down... time to wake up...

    Only question is which factions and what motive? The Freemason Police Mafias are the No 1 Crime syndicate. From Sergeant and up it is 99% saturated with Freemasons. Every Police dept and every fire department in every city. All the judges. Deal with it. What other purpose do Secret Societies serve?
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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution


    3:55 in this youtube video a piece of "gore" vanishes off the ground.

    There's something odd here.

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

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    OF COURSE it is a false flag, most likely another tortured soul was manipulated into it or was setup in an OP. I am shocked it has taken this long to happen. They have been setting up their plans and they have mostly been in place for a while. They just needed the false flag/catalyst or catalyst'S. There should be more interesting things to come, and the GOV has "Action/Reaction" plans in the ready to roll out, some before some behind the MSM.

    Good luck to us all, just do not get caught up in it and stay OFF the news stations and watching every momment and detail. Just like we did w/9/11... Now is the time to meditate and put out positive "vibes" and energy in anyway you are equiped. That may be one of your soul missions.

    Interesting times indeed...
    We are transmuting this energy with Divine Love. That's why we feel like "SHIFT!"

    Birthing the new consciousness for Humanity.
    Great recommendation to focus on the love in our Hearts and hold it all in a space of Compassion.

    Our ATTENTION and VIBRATION are the key right now. We are NOT victims. We are conscious creators.

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    Default Interesting FB post re Boston.sandy hook actors

    Hi All,

    I just had this come up in my feed, and unsure as to whether it has been posted as yet..

    Could be a bit of disinfo, but I find it interesting since it ties in well with previoius threads re Sandy Hook, and actors being used for media presentation.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...theaterhttp://

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    Default Re: Boston False Flag ? David Ickes post...........Problem Reaction Solution

    Mel Fabregas from Veritas Radio posted this on Facebook to day. It's an email that was sent to him regarding the bombing and why it was done. We'll have to wait and see if this pans out. I certainly hope not.

    "A truth seeker must be willing to forget anything and everything that he / she has ever learned if they are going to pull back the curtain of the universe and peek inside." ~~WILLIAM CONSTANTINE

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