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    Suggesting garlic as a food stuff is nonsense, if this were extrapolated across the natural food chain we wouldn't have anything to eat. Doctors are not immune to idiocy either.
    The doctor, Dr Robert Beck is a specialist neuro surgeon and looks at things from his own unique perspective and his interpretation is absolutely accurate but must be kept in context between the applied benefits and perceived consequences, the latter to which he refers.

    During this lecture snippet, he refers to his EEG apparatus failing when the purchasers, during training failed to register on his equipment, they were in his words "clinically dead". He then went on to describe how the ingestion of garlic before the test session had been the cause which precipitated the left and right brain hemispheres disassociating from each other, ie they were each operating separately and not dependent on each other, which of course is what we want (IMO). The equipment is limited in its functions compared to that of the brain anyway.

    He is selling medical equipment and garlic prevents him from winning sales!

    For more useful information on garlic try: http://www.naturalnews.com/garlic.html

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    Default Re: Is Garlic actually a poison?

    so is oxygen, only it takes 70~80 years to kill us.

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    Everything in moderation.
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    Sheme started a thread on this already about a month ago. Possible potential for thread merger -- exact same topic. And an interesting one ... It may be worth considering, at least a little
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    EMERGENCE

    We are all planted somewhere
    Poked, dropped, dibbled down
    Into village or country or town
    Immersed awhile into community.
    Hopes and dreams of generations
    Are condensed into our DNA
    Strategies beyond mere survival rage
    As a signaling mechanism occurs.
    It awakens all of us, to ask
    For patience, steadfastness and adjustment
    As we settle in for the long nights ahead.
    A sensate consciousness responds
    With feelers of roots, sentries of silk
    Responding to the gravities of food and water
    The densities of matter, exudates of worm
    The stacked chemistries surround us.
    Immensities are built in stillness
    Yet transitions are whispered in winds
    Long before verticalities are pondered.
    The inner self in lucid dream
    In all its outer ferocity becomes Mother
    Like a baby chick it feeds and finds
    A torus, a magic portal has formed
    From inside out to outside in, here
    The journey of young clove doth begin.
    A timeless Time in winter clime
    One day is soon forgotten.
    A humming frequency then stirs:
    The same sound that lifts the fog
    From its tomb of mud
    Gentles these souls to awaken.
    This chorus of Light loosens soils
    And causes all Life to arise!
    The sap is singing, birds are winging
    Nests are nexting, when
    A chorus louder than peepers in June
    To the garlic sings a tune:
    The sky is calling
    The sky is calling
    Come forth come forth
    In tip of green
    Unfold your sheath
    And live the dream
    Emerge emerge the hour is nigh
    To see how high your flag may fly!
    ‘Tis then we’ve pledged
    To do our part
    To open our world to them
    For that emergence is NOW…!

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    Quote Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
    Did y'all know that Gorillas, and man, are the only 2 mammals that do NOT make their own Vitamin C?
    Not quite true:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C

    Among the animals that have lost the ability to synthesise vitamin C are simians and tarsiers, which together make up one of two major primate suborders, Haplorrhini. This group includes humans. The other more primitive primates (Strepsirrhini) have the ability to make vitamin C. Synthesis does not occur in a number of species (perhaps all species) in the small rodent family Caviidae that includes guinea pigs and capybaras, but occurs in other rodents (rats and mice do not need vitamin C in their diet, for example). A number of species of passerine birds also do not synthesise, but not all of them, and those that don't are not clearly related; there is a theory that the ability was lost separately a number of times in birds.[11] All tested families of bats, including major insect and fruit-eating bat families, cannot synthesise vitamin C. A trace of GLO was detected in only 1 of 34 bat species tested, across the range of 6 families of bats tested.[12] However, recent results show that there are at least two species of bats, frugivorous bat (Rousettus leschenaultii) and insectivorous bat (Hipposideros armiger), that remain their ability in vitamin C production.[13][14] The ability to synthesize vitamin C has also been lost in teleost fish.
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    Default Re: Is Garlic actually a poison?

    if you eat it and don't get sick or poisoned, how can it be a poison? garlic is eaten by billions of people since thousands of years. either the toxicity of garlic is some new age foolishness or an age-old conspiracy to poison us all. take your pick.
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    A recent and significant finding from Washington State University shows that garlic is 100 times more effective than two popular antibiotics at fighting disease causing bacteria commonly responsible for food borne illness.

    When the garlic is crushed, alliin becomes allicin.
    Research shows that allicin helps lower cholesterol and blood pressure and also helps prevents blood clots. Garlic can also reduce the risk of developing atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries). Compounds in this familiar bulb kill many organisms, including bacteria and viruses that cause earaches, flu and colds. Research indicates that garlic is also effective against digestive ailments and diarrhea. What's more, further studies suggest that this common and familiar herb may help prevent the onset of cancers.

    'This chemical has been known for a long time for its anti-bacterial and anti-fungal powers,' says Helen Bond, a Derbyshire-based consultant dietitian and spokeswoman for the British Dietetic Association.

    'Because of this, people assume it is going to boost their immune systems. Lots of people are simply mashing up garlic, mixing it with olive oil and spreading it on bread.
    'But how or whether it may actually work has still not been proven categorically.'

    Indeed, scientists remain divided on garlic's ability to combat colds and flu. Last March, a major investigation by the respected global research organisation, the Cochrane Database, found that increasing your garlic intake during winter can cut the duration of cold symptoms -- from five-and-a-half days to four-and-a-half.

    But the report, which amalgamated all previous scientific studies on garlic, said it could not draw solid conclusions because there is a lack of large-scale, authoritative research.

    The problem is that pharmaceutical companies are not interested in running huge, expensive trials -- as they would with promising new drug compounds -- because there is nothing in garlic that they can patent, package and sell at a profit.



    Modified Garlic Soup Recipe
    Serves 4
    26 garlic cloves (unpeeled)
    2 tablespoons olive oil
    2 tablespoons (1/4 stick) organic butter (grass fed)
    1/2 teaspoon cayenne powder
    1/2 cup fresh ginger
    2 1/4 cups sliced onions
    1 1/2 teaspoons chopped fresh thyme
    26 garlic cloves, peeled
    1/2 cup coconut milk
    3 1/2 cups organic vegetable broth
    4 lemon wedges

    Preheat oven to 350F. Place 26 garlic cloves in small glass baking dish. Add 2 tablespoons olive oil and sprinkle with sea salt and toss to coat. Cover baking dish tightly with foil and bake until garlic is golden brown and tender, about 45 minutes. Cool. Squeeze garlic between fingertips to release cloves. Transfer cloves to small bowl.

    Melt butter in heavy large saucepan over medium-high heat. Add onions, thyme, ginger and cayenne powder and cook until onions are translucent, about 6 minutes. Add roasted garlic and 26 raw garlic cloves and cook 3 minutes. Add vegetable broth; cover and simmer until garlic is very tender, about 20 minutes. Working in batches, puree soup in blender until smooth. Return soup to saucepan; add coconut milk and bring to simmer. Season with sea salt and pepper for flavour.
    Squeeze juice of 1 lemon wedge into each bowl and serve.
    Can be prepared 1 day ahead. Cover and refrigerate. Rewarm over medium heat, stirring occasionally.
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    Nevertheless, garlic has a long and proud tradition as a medicine. The Ancient Egyptians recommended it for 22 ailments.

    In a papyrus dated 1500BC, the labourers who built the pyramids ate it to increase their stamina and keep them healthy.

    The Ancient Greeks advocated garlic for everything from curing infections, and lung and blood disorders to healing insect bites and even treating leprosy.

    The Romans fed it to soldiers and sailors to improve their endurance. Dioscorides, the personal physician to Emperor Nero, wrote a five-volume treatise extolling its virtues.

    One of the most interesting of the recent findings is that garlic increases the overall antioxidant levels of the body. Scientifically known as Allium sativa, garlic has been famous throughout history for its ability to fight off viruses and bacteria.

    Louis Pasteur noted in 1858 that bacteria died when they were doused with garlic. From the Middle Ages on, garlic has been used to treat wounds, being ground or sliced and applied directly to wounds to inhibit the spread of infection. The Russians refer to garlic as Russian penicillin.

    More recently, researchers have unearthed evidence to show garlic may help us to stay hale and hearty in a number of ways.

    Last June, nutrition scientists at the University of Florida found eating garlic can boost the number of T-cells in the bloodstream. These play a vital role in strengthening our immune systems and fighting viruses.

    And pharmacologists at the University of California found that allicin -- the active ingredient in garlic that contributes to bad breath -- is an infection-killer.

    Allicin also makes our blood vessels dilate, improving blood flow and helping to tackle cardiovascular problems such as high cholesterol.

    An Australian study of 80 patients published last week in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition reported that diets high in garlic may reduce high blood pressure.

    In 2007, dentists in Brazil found that gargling with garlic water (made by steeping crushed garlic cloves in warm, but not boiling, water) can kill the germs that cause tooth decay and gum disease.

    But they hit a snag: the volunteers refused to continue the experiment, complaining that the garlic gargle made them feel sick.

    Among its many other virtues, garlic kills slugs and snails. Researchers from the University of Newcastle believe it contains oils that may cripple the nervous systems of these slimy creatures.

    There are two schools of thought as to the best way of preparing garlic to make the most of its medicinal qualities.

    Argentinian investigators found it releases its allicin-type compounds when you bake the cloves, while scientists at South Carolina Medical University believe peeling garlic and letting it sit uncovered for 15 minutes produces the highest levels of compounds to fight infection.

    So you can simply peel half of the garlic cloves and roast the other half with the kitchen door tightly closed (to stop the pong permeating throughout the house).

    After an hour-and-a-quarter's industrious soup-making, sprinkle lemon juice over a bowl of steaming, grey gloop and tuck in.

    The heady aroma certainly revs up the appetite and the first spoonful does not disappoint. Delicious as it is, however, one large bowl of home-made soup is a more than ample meal.

    Or it could just be that my nuclear-strength garlic breath will keep everyone who is infectious far out of sneezing range for months to come.
    Source: http://preventdisease.com/
    http://worldtruth.tv/garlic-soup-mad...ven-norovirus/
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    My Nana swore by eating a clove of garlic in a piece of bread everyday! I can still see her sweet little face squint and curl as she chomped away at it, hehe...

    She lived until the ripe age of 76 (having smoked 40+ cigarettes a day for most of her adult life- YIKES!!!)
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    I came across this question — is Garlic a poison? — again just now, and so I'm bumping this thread. (Actually, two threads now merged, both showcasing Bob Beck's work.)

    It's pretty fascinating, I have to say. All newer members (since 2013!), please do read with interest.

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    I eat garlic all the time.
    I even went on a Candida elimination protocol a while back which had me eating raw cloves everyday for a couple of weeks.
    I did this during days that I flew as well.
    I did not notice any decrease in reaction times or impairments in any manner.

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    Seems that garlic has been known to have certain effects on the human body for a long time - http://kurma.net/essays/e19.html. The ancient warnings about garlic and similar plants - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaryllidaceae - were made at a different time of humanity. We're less spiritually aware and nuanced than ancient peoples. We've replaced intuition with increased intellectual logic. So garlic might have effects that most people don't notice. If you wanted to do serious spiritual work you'd probably want to stay away from aphrodisiacs.

    Let's look at what Bob Beck said about garlic's effect on the brain = he claimed it disassociates the brain lobes. That would coincide with an aphrodisiac because sex is the masculine and feminine as separate things. It's seeing the "opposite" as something outside the self that the self needs. The more self complete and spiritually evolved we are the less compulsion there is for that.

    Before anyone gets mad about this post criticizing sex, it's not. The impulse, at least on a deeper than physical level, for sex is to achieve union and equilibrium anyway. Which of course we can work toward in ourselves, it doesn't require others. It's more fun to have friendships and relationships than be a hermit though.

    The point is garlic has pros and cons. Trying to define a black and white one size fits all answer is wrong. It depends on where you are and what you want.

    If you're doing serious spiritual tuning you might want to stay away from garlic. That kind of work isn't easy. At the same time no one is forcing us to follow a strict spiritual discipline.

    Most of us are gonna use garlic as we already do, as a natural fix or to add spice to food.

    If garlic has a certain effect on the brain and spiritual body then maybe it's not the best remedy for all things and all times. That's something to figure out for ourselves.

    New and challenging information is something to consider with nuance and not try to categorize into an absolute black and white.
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    Quote Posted by Universoul (here)
    Seems that garlic has been known to have certain effects on the human body for a long time - http://kurma.net/essays/e19.html. The ancient warnings about garlic and similar plants - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaryllidaceae - were made at a different time of humanity. We're less spiritually aware and nuanced than ancient peoples. We've replaced intuition with increased intellectual logic. So garlic might have effects that most people don't notice. If you wanted to do serious spiritual work you'd probably want to stay away from aphrodisiacs.

    Let's look at what Bob Beck said about garlic's effect on the brain = he claimed it disassociates the brain lobes. That would coincide with an aphrodisiac because sex is the masculine and feminine as separate things. It's seeing the "opposite" as something outside the self that the self needs. The more self complete and spiritually evolved we are the less compulsion there is for that.

    Before any gets mad about this post criticizing sex, it's not. The impulse, at least on a deeper than physical level, for sex is to achieve union and equilibrium anyway. Which of course we can work toward in ourselves, it doesn't require others. It's more fun to have friendships and relationships than be a hermit though.

    The point is garlic has pros and cons. Trying to define a black and white one size fits all answer is wrong. It depends on where you are and what you want.

    If you're doing serious spiritual tuning you might want to stay away from garlic. That kind of work isn't easy. At the same time no one is forcing us to follow a strict spiritual discipline.

    Most of us are gonna use garlic as we already do, as a natural fix or to add spice to food.

    If garlic has a certain effect on the brain and spiritual body then maybe it's not the best remedy for all things and all times. That's something to figure out for ourselves.

    New and challenging information is something to consider with nuance and not try to categorize into an absolute black and white.
    Inelia Benz also claimed that garlic prevents the two lobes of the brain from communicating properly as whole. This lends to a more "groundedness" but also supplants spiritual sensitivities for physical ones, supposedly. This is where it comes to effect as a medicine, it allows the mind and body to be more physically focused, to allow for healing. Her take was that it should be viewed as medicine, not food.

    Seems to possibly make sense.
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    I remember Simon Parkes always warning everyone off garlic . does anyone recall that and why?

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    You know what one definition of an expert is?
    " A has been drip under pressure"
    One thing for sure experts rarely agree.
    The benefits of garlic are well documented.

    Some spiritual teachers are against garlic because it is said to promote sexual desire.
    Others say that there is nothing good nor bad--everything is life expressing itself---
    None of us would be here with out the sexual desire of our parents.

    The Buddha had good advice--"Put no head above your own"
    I would not look to any one single person to take advice from-- cross check with various sources is standard advice.

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