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    Default Cannabis legislation / legalization

    This fox new report is soooooo funny.



    Having watched this report, and seeing how this gentleman breaks it down, kinda shows why so many of the sheep are ascared to speak for themselves.
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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    I'm paraphrasing from memory here so someone correct me on the smaller bits, please.

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    Fox was self- reassigned as an entertainment and not a news reporting agency. This is due to them being sued by one of their fired "actual journalistic reporter"(s), for lying to the public.

    It went all the way to the US supreme court.

    Fox got around it by having their organization listed as an entertainment organization from the top down. This means they are not legally bound by any potential law suits with regard to having to say or tell truthful things.

    They can lie and fabricate all they want, as it's 'Fox Entertainment'.

    You are looking at the arm or public face of a psyops program or network, that the public is not aware, in the general sense....of that organization being the legal equivalent of 'Comedy Central'.
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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    Fox has long been the voice of the sheeple, promoting an agenda of hate and fear. Occasionally, they'll "accidentally" stumble upon on the truth (that is, if it's not censored immediately by them).

    Reefer madness is silly and inexcusable in this day and age.

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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    LOL...........awesome....it's so dank it'll KILL YOU lol.

    I've wanted to write a book about this for awhile, but like all my book ideas, someone's probably said it already and may or may not have been killed for saying something about it.

    I really don't understand the argument....it's simple.....outgrow canada and the mexican cartel, put it on the front step of the white house and say your move holy man........your move. Of course a large scale information campaign would have to take place first.....meh. I think it's coming up on the ballot in a lot of states this year....Cali legalization Missouri medical status, so on so forth.....just playing their cheap tricks as usual this voting season. The problem is people are silly and like to get tore up on substances.....like all things,....moderation is key.....we don't live in a country that has an emphasis on moderation....no wonder the politicians are worried about the legislation on things of the such. That and the epiphanies and knowledge that would occur from utilizing the plant lol.
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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    though the chemicals in the hydroponic variety that can have issues for those sensative to it

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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    Well, it gets crazier with regard to stats and histories. Pardon me, some of my data may be a bit off, but you'll get the idea.

    Germany begins to militarize after the Weimar republic financial economic situation, when Hitler takes the reins and creates their own state issued currency, without debt attached, no private banks involved.

    The economy rights itself in about 5 years, and things really begin to take off. It is seemingly allowed to happen as the government is fascist, meaning the corporations are on the inside of the government rule.

    The whole enemy within program and pogrom beings in earnest. Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc,the beginnings of the round up and incarceration. No war yet, but getting close.

    The war begins..and the filling of the prisons via 'identification of enemies of the state' really takes off and the jails begin to overflow. (done to polarize the German public, among other things.)

    The German government has the incarcerated people making goods for the German war machine. The crucial point here. in the end tally, 85% of the operational hardware (soft goods, support goods, not actual hardware) for the military machine is produced by prisoners, wards of the state.

    Ok, so the Germans were financed by the Federal reserve, clandestinely under cover of an entity known as 'the union banking corp' (IIRC) run by none other than senator (in the future to be one) Prescott Bush. The group of people who own the FED banks created and enabled this situation. (John J. McCloy, a lawyer in the employ of I.G. Farben. McCloy would later be president of Rockefellers Chase Manhattan Bank, chairman of the CFR, and serve on the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of Kennedy. Kennedy's crime that got him whacked was the creation of treasury issued notes which would have freed the USA from corporate banking rule. Same as Lincoln's situation. McCloy was in Hitler's box in the 1936 Olympics. Yes. True.)

    Some 1930 to 1939 timeline data: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=ca

    End of war comes, the OSS- soon to be called 'CIA', through the Dulles Brothers, brings back approximately 5000 German scientists (and most were in the military as officers, etc, many ardent Fascists among them)..and the bankers get their money back in the form of the German black ops which are combined into US black ops programs. Except, in the US, this is part of the corporate/government structure. Similar to the German situation, but it appears as if the Corporations in the US version have more power in the given black ops.

    The amount of money still being spent on black ops in the US at wars end..never really slows down. it barrels on ...unhindered, for the most part - for quite a bit longer. it is said that for each year of public life in science and technology (1946-7 estimate), 50 years or advancement happen in the black ops (military technological advancement 'rate of development') world as they are unhindered by limitations, or checks and balances, or whatever. Meaning they are developing the technologies that today, they kill you for looking at - as they want to keep those avenues of thought to themselves. Besides the idea of reptilians, UFO's what have you. This number, of years of advancement has dropped to 44 years per outside year in recent times. This means that black ops technology is about 3000 years ahead of what you see in the outside world today.

    However this still leaves the military that is in the field using the 'normal' gear and hardware, today. They need support.

    Fed bank and similar owners (direct connections), family member, etc, Nelson Rockefeller..and associated people note the near close call of public freedom that occurs due to the Vietnam war backlash in the USA. The fascists fight back.

    The US gets the 'Rockefeller Drug laws,' NY state. 1973. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_drug_laws The situation becomes absolutely draconian with regard to soft drugs.

    Note the privatization of the prisons in the US.

    The fascists launch wars of occupation and destruction all over the world and since their associates run the presses and media, the US public is largely unaware (aided by the fact that they would unconsciously, emotionally..not want to know of these horrific situations- anyway)of the depth of this governmental expenditure in the military machine... that is influenced and controlled by private interests.

    There is much more connective tissue here but..I'd have to write a book and there have been books written in various ways, directions, topics, etc.. over the years.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The conclusion is that the US prisons are privately owned and operated, the public pays for it, and the incarcerated strong and intelligent labor pool (there as they smoked a joint, once)..is once again...producing 85% of the soft goods of the fascist war machine. Right under the public's noses. They needed the prison work force and they found a way to reach that target again, that free labor pool, that was actually paid for by the US public, using the US public as that slave labor.


    That is the real, original point of having all those people in jail for such minor infractions.

    Besides the current other uses, with regard to polarizing the public: religion, justice, conservatism, punishment, etc.

    The follow up point is that the US appears to be primed to accept another puppet moron like Hitler (Who was no dummy) who was problematic in the end, to some degree... so this time they want someone dumber and more controllable, thus the functionally illiterate ones like Palin being courted and tested before the public eye. which is why McCain was run up the flagpole for the vote.

    The German Weimar Republic scene (ruined economy and the public tired, confused.. and open to extreme manipulation) is being set up (Again!) and the plans for the north American union, the sealing of the borders, the desire to fill the prisons and the North American highway thing like the autobahn work project thing, all repeats, in perfect synchronicity.

    Another point is that the general who ran the east German spy system in the cold war..he managed to get one out of every six people spying on one another and had huge files on everyone. He had east Germany locked up solid. The point was that the German WWII spay machine was given, in totality, intact as a spy system to the US and the developing CIA. The Germans were left in control of and running that spy network, from behind the Iron curtain. Mmmmk? the most paranoid, off t the scale, fascist 1984 wet dream of a spy network that you can imagine ever happening.

    The east German general who did the best at this task... in east Germany.....when East Germany fell, he had to get a new gig. (general wolf? or similar name, nickname of 'fox' or the like, as well. Oddly enough, the egyptian desert fox is part of the Illuminati 'sign' stuff)

    He came over to the US and is now working to create the same system, but modernized..for the FBI..in the USA.

    If you are not crapping your pants yet, you should be.

    The plan appears to be, to create a '9/11' in Canada somewhere, as Canada does not want to go along with the whole NA union/war machine fascist 1984 slave country thingie..as Canada is seen as a 'Rothschild fiefdom' and that is part of the European sect of the 'disagreeing' or warring factions of the 'Illuminati'. There are signs that they keep trying to create this needed 'event atmosphere' in Canada (Conservatives running Canada,and then the G20 summit in Toronto, as a test run for Canadian public acceptance of fascist paranoia), and keep failing as Canadians are actually, traditionally (although it seems not to some) pretty darned wary of their governments.

    In essence, the Fox ENTERTAINMENT thing is all just part of a larger and quite involved agenda coming from the nasty fascist side of these agendas.

    I had to write all of this so you could begin to see the shape and placement of the Fox news story, in context.

    Ie, the DEA being part of that organization, 'Fox Entertainment' being part of the arm of the media spin and control system, or pacifier for the conservative and unaware public..and the DEA a part of the system that works for those who finances black ops, meaning corporations from both sides/ends of the situation. Slave labor on the prison side and attempting to wholly control the drug trade via CIA connections/systems. They can't have individuals feeding themselves by making and selling Mary Jane, in those house Hydro operations.

    Those grow/ produce/ package/move/sell operations need to be big so that they are capable of being controlled and run by these entities, and they also need to be in different countries in order to insert themselves into the system on the black/dark side of things. Ie, wars, taking over countries, financing black ops, making billionaires out of the people in those systems, etc.

    This is why the fed/fascist/corporate system is working hard to stop ANY attempt to legalize drugs/weed in any US state.

    This game of theirs won't work (it will be hindered mightily) if those dang independent people start grow ops in houses. Those pesky independent people need to be targeted and turned back into slave labor in privately run prisons. Stop it with that dang independence and freedom thing. They can't stand or have legalized marijuana in the system as that just opens the floodgates and begins draining their carefully and well built system of people and money control.

    So the level of federal and federal organization and directed energies.. and controlled media pressure against legalization of weed can now be put into context and you can now see the level of pressure that they WILL bring against any initiative to legalize weed.

    Down to the point of blatantly violating state laws in California, for example, and coming in with Federal organizations... and slamming/incarcerating anyone and everyone they can.

    The United states was built as a decentralized power system in order to curtail and prevent a single organization or head from herding the people of the united states into a single controlled state. The dark system went after the federal system and has done it's best to infuse the Federal organization with the power to control the country as a single entity, and you can even chart out it's pressures, tactics, and trail over the past 250 years or more in the History of the US and it's governmental systems/laws enacted, etc.

    This 'drug grow op weed legalization thing' is on the direct front lines of this war.

    I hope I've managed to help people get the right pair of glasses on and look at these things from the correct perspective. Everything I have said here can be researched and found. Data, news, names, all of it.

    For if you don't do so (look at the bigger picture as a flow system), you stand no chance of ever working your way out of this emerging and constantly growing hole.
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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    Thank you for this information Carmody.
    Found the right pair of glasses

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    Default Re: Fox News Gets Reefer Madness Over So-Called Killer Marijuana

    LOL, it will kill you when you suffocate to death on the food you are shoving down your throat.

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    Default Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill Friday morning that decriminalizes possession of marijuana in the state.

    Those caught with less than an ounce of marijuana will still receive a maximum penalty of $100. However, Senate Bill 1449 reduces the legal categorization of marijuana possession from a misdemeanor to a civil infraction. This means that those caught will not have to appear in court, pay court fees or receive a criminal record.

    Source: http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-los...alization-bill

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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    ..
    - funny, and clever : - )
    .
    - they, local government, want to be in on the action
    California need to make money, not to spend it ..
    - this is a random tax for holding or using
    marijuana. Maybe a step on the way to
    legalization, that seems the only viable solution.
    - The prohibition law is fairly new, and possibly
    not very well founded, either in common sense
    or serious science on the field ...
    ..
    - Any knowledge on how this absurd prohibition came
    to pass in the first place, would be welcome.
    Has to be an interesting history, involving intrigue,
    conpiracy, and possible corruption in high political places.
    ..
    It, the anti drug law, was exported from USA to Europe after the second world war
    when most parts of it, also here in scandinavia, were weakened,
    and had to get economic and practical help to rebuild, and USA
    offered that help, and as part of the deal the receiving countrys accepted a bunch of
    laws and sets of ideas on how to run, or ruin, their communitys.
    ..
    So be it. Mistakes are made in the process. Realize it, and see it needs to be changed..
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Yay!

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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Do they get to keep the weed?

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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    good question.

    I used to have a high school teacher who stole our stuff. He'd call us to the front of the class and have us turn in our 'goodies'. But he'd never turn us in....It was his way of keeping a good supply, I guess.
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Calif could make millions taxing the growing and selling of Humbolt Co finest. The funny thing is is that nowadays the local growers are against the legalization of mary jane - as this would cut into their livelihoods.
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Awesome, I will start applying for jobs in Cali tomorrow.

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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    I believe Denver did this years ago.

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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Sadly, California already has this 30 years ago.

    Once upon a time... (1979)
    In a land just like this one, there lived four friends who were having a Friday night after work get together at the apartment.
    Yes, we were partaking of a medicinal herb.
    Yes, the windows were open, and maybe the music was a teeny bit loud.

    Anyway, the first hint anyone objected was a local cop walking up the stairs.
    We quickly tossed everything to a 'volunteer' among us, which meant the cops could only write one 'ticket' for possession.
    They took the stuff, and left us a "receipt" which had the curious title:
    Notice Of Violation (yes, a speeding ticket)

    We each tossed our volunteer $25 in cash, and Monday morning he paid the $125 ticket. Done!
    Finito.
    Of course some anal jerk in the Federal justice system couldn't stand for things being this simple (no career advancement opportunities for him), and the whole process was thrown out, via the courts.

    This may happen again, who knows; but for now, perhaps this time sanity will reign a bit longer.
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    This can only be good news for the locals.

    Now if we could just get them to Un Ban freedom of speech, they would be onto a winner.
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Quote Posted by irishspirit (here)
    This can only be good news for the locals.
    Now if we could just get them to Un Ban freedom of speech, they would be onto a winner.
    Yet another hot button of mine. Something else "Da Sheeple" swallowed whole like a big greezy cheeseburger...

    The notion that "Free speech" needed, nay required a "Free Speech Zone!"
    (usually several miles from any relevant activity or TV camera)
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    Default Re: Schwarzenegger signs California marijuana decriminalization bill.

    Fred,

    Couldn't agree more. I laugh though when you see the Sheeple walk into these "Zones". Shocking, just shocking!!!!
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