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    Recently I have had the pleasure to be in contact with a fascinating man I shall call Ringo. Ringo had some insights into a photo I posted in my photo album here on PA entitled, “Things to Look At”. The photo was taken by a civilian in South Carolina in 2009, and clearly (perhaps more-so than any other photo you’ll find on the net) depicts what must be nothing less than an undisclosed military aircraft--AKA a "UFO".

    This contact (Ringo) is not a stranger to me, and we had discussed many unrelated topics previously, so I was quite surprised and delighted that he chose to elaborate on this photo. I am leaving this up for your interpretation, redacted to obscure some basic identifying information.

    Ringo has agreed to discuss more in a limited way, though we suspect that there may be some significant memory issues, possibly the result of periodic memory wipes due to the USAPs he was involved with. As many of you know, the memory issue is a complex one, and many are rightfully skeptical. What I can tell you is that we are exploring the issue and as far as I can discern this man is sincere in what he writes. If you have any questions or comments you would like elaborated on, please submit them here and I'll relate them to him, though I can’t guarantee an answer for any specific question. See letter below. Hopefully we will be posting more! He has much he would like to discuss.

    ………your photo of the "UFO"? If so, most people would call that a TR-3B. That's kinda correct. But what most people don't know is the 'TR-3x' designation is no longer in use, other than most likely one Test Bed somewhere which would be used for Test and Integration of new technology. The reason it wasn't designated an 'X' (as in X-1, X-15, etc) is because the 'X' is used on Experimental Man-Made Aerospace vehicles. The 'TR' designation stands for Technology Reversed and is also referred to as Test Reversed. If the picture you are showing is fairly recent (the last 10-20 years or so), and it looks like it is, it looks like the Operational version.
    Notice it's solid black color (and there will be no identifying markings on it)? That's because it is operated by the undisclosed US Space Command. I say undisclosed because the USSC has been OFFICIALLY transferred to the new USSTRATCOM and no longer exists. In reality the USSC is still operational, but it is the US Contingent of a larger World (NATO-Like) Alliance, of which I do not know the name. They have different sizes of these vehicles but the physical configurations are all similar. SOME can operate on both conventional fuel AND anti-gravity field propulsion systems. Depending on the configuration they are used for transporting personnel, supplies, and equipment to the deep-space military-intelligence space station (Semi-routinely. That's why they're seldom spotted. And when they are they're just classified as UFO's), for deep space travel, and for superfast surveillance operations (Again, can be classified as UFO when spotted). I don't know (or remember?) the designation or…….

    (SECTION REDACTED)…………….

    Now is a picture starting to form here? Being qualified under the Nuclear Surety Program (Personnel Reliability Program - PRP) I was classified as a Combat Aircrew Member and I flew with the SAC WWABNCP and with Looking Glass. As such I had to undergo routine visits to the Flight Surgeon's Office, not only for Physical checkups but also for Psychological checkups. Is it possible that I was wiped? I mean think about it . . . I was a member of the USAF - Property of the US Gov. And maybe they wouldn't want someone with certain knowledge to simply leave and be roaming around the streets to discuss this?
    (SECTION REDACTED)……….


    Back to the TR-3B for a moment: I was going to say that I don't know or remember any technical details, but there is one thing. They still use IFF/SIF, and when they're within the atmosphere they can Squawk themselves as ordinary aircraft or helicopters, military or civilian, to Ground Controllers or ATC. There was at least one that I know of, a relatively small one, at (*******) (SD). It was kept in a small hangar off the very North end of the runway. I initially found out about it because they were having a Comm. problem, so because of our Security Classifications we carried, Job Control called our shop (on the Red Phone. Not usual!) to give us the Work Order (with instructions). Since I was the Senior Cleared Comm Tech there at the time, I and one other tech were assigned the job. I remember it was quite a 'rigamarole' to go through to get in there, but once I seen it I didn't feel particularly fascinated by it. This thing was just sitting there in the hangar, and although I knew it was a secret aircraft, I didn't feel that surprised by it. After all, at the time, (*********) was called "SAC's Show-Place" for a reason and I had seen a lot of stuff come through there. I remember thinking that it was just another Advanced Fighter or something. BUT, some while later when I was temporarily assigned as Squadron Swing-Shift Supervisor (all shops) I was called by J.C. (in the same manner, only more rushed) and told to report to North Runway with a Nav Specialist. That's when I realized it was no ordinary airplane. It was completely dark - no lights, no moon, and hard to see - and completely quiet out there. We could see that it was surrounded by people because they were carrying dimmed flashlights pointing at the ground. And then, at exactly the same time, we both said "IT'S HOVERING"! I kid you not Hiram. I remember that now almost like it happened last week. And it was no optical illusion, because we went under it and entered through a bottom hatch with a drop-down ladder. And I even remember thinking how much the same this was as entering one of our EC-135's! Now I have a gap, because I don't remember anything inside the craft at all. The final memory I have of this is the drive back to the shop and the NAV Tech telling me about the IFF (Editor’s Note: Identification Friend or Foe---a system that enables military, and national (civilian-located ATC) interrogation systems to distinguish friendly aircraft, vehicles, or forces, and to determine their bearing and range from the interrogator), which is what we were called out for. That's it. I MUST be going crazy! But somehow I really don't think so. (Section Redacted)
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    Hiram, is this the photo you are talking about?

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/albu...achmentid=2316

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    Yes. That is precisely the one. Thank you for linking to it!

    This is a very interesting man.
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    I have always felt uneasy with any mention of that designation, wherever the source might originate. TR-3, TR-3B, Black Manta. For some reason I was under the impression that the designation stood for Tactical Recon, and that there was a tactical version and a larger strategic version of that craft. These obviously are from the same family as the late 80's, yet never rolled out publicly Lockheed SWP-30 'Firefly', a large 180+ft triangle using advanced propulsion and fitted with psychotronic weapon systems

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    Yes, to me this looks like a "sport-model" version. Although it is difficult to judge size with no scale here in the open sky, it doesn't appear massive does it? I have another image of this craft taken by the same photographer. I'll find and post it in the same album.
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    Sounds good, thanks

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    I'm sorry the 2nd photo is corrupted...I posted it, but just the tiny version of it. A different angle.

    I spoke with Ringo, and Bonfides will be forthcoming. I don't know this for sure but I think there is alot of scanning and obscuring ID's etc. to maintain his confidentiality. I'll also be posting a timeline for him once he completes that.
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    More to Come soon.......!
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    Quote Posted by Hiram (here)
    More to Come soon.......!
    Very much looking forward to it Hiram!

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    Hi there, Hiram -

    Many thanks, and I'm most interested in this. I understand from the mods that you e-mailed me: my apologies, because I missed it and just now absolutely cannot find your message. Can you kindly re-send to bill@projectavalon.net?

    A few immediate questions, if I may - just for the moment.

    1) I looked closely at the interesting photo you posted here:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/albu...achmentid=2316

    It's literally outline-razor-sharp. I'd have expected the edges to be at least a little blurred. (Try taking a photo of a distant solid object with a high-quality camera and see the pixellation of sharp edge outlines. I just showed it to a Photoshop expert, who immediately offered the opinion that it was fabricated.)

    Did Ringo offer any doubt that the photo might be of an unenhanced real object?

    2) The TR-3B is the LARGE triangle - isn't it? Like this one:



    a) Can you ask Ringo if this YouTube video is genuine? I have to say that it looks pretty convincing to me. If it was faked, it shows a very high level of expertise.

    b) I thought that the TR-3A was the small "Pumpkinseed" craft - that the posted photo may depict. Can Ringo comment?

    3) Ringo wrote

    Quote I flew with the SAC WWABNCP and with Looking Glass
    By "Looking Glass", is he referring to the Boeing EC–135?

    4) Can Ringo comment on the X-33 Venture Star? Kerry and I recently were told some interesting information about this craft (or its successor).

    5) What does Ringo know about the Mars colony?

    Please forward my best regards to him - I have a bunch more questions if he's willing to dialog.

    With my very best wishes, Bill
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    Thank you everyone for being kind enough to visit this thread,

    Bill, I have now submitted each of your comments to Ringo and we'll await his responses. He has alot of tangential information, and isn't afraid to say "I don't know" when he doesn't.

    He is in the process of assembling alot of his info, personal -timeline etc. We should hear back from him shortly.

    You make good points about the photograph. Personally I can't vouch for its genuineness, but I had assumed that it was taken with a very high-resolution camera and that the object was traveling very slowly at less than 1 thousand feet. There are a series of photographs taken at that sighting and I believe they can be found on the net.

    At best, its a photo that stimulated Ringo's memory, alot of which seems to be disjointed, though it coming together.

    Bill, I am emailing you again as I post this.

    For those who know my reputation on Avalon, I am very sincere about what write here. I would not knowingly present anything that was incorrect. I think this is a nice opportunity to question and learn from someone who was involved in some very interesting things.

    Thanks for your patience!

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    Really briefly, some discussion Ringo and I had been having with regards to underground facilities, and a feeling of strangeness that sensitive people sometimes get when when above or around these facilities (I had been describing a very strange experience and feeling my girlfriend and I had while stopping briefly in Tehachapi California. We both were so taken aback by the odd-feeling of the place and the people, that I was intuitively certain there was some kind of underground base or facility nearby. I never wish to drive through there ever again!):

    (Hiram)
    Well once i returned home I went online and found some really obscure references to an underground facility run by Lockheed called "The Anthill" reported to be in the area of Tehachapi!! I was like: BINGO!

    (Ringo) I've heard of The Anthill, but I can't for the life of me remember where. Hmmm. As far as I know I have never been directly associated with Lockheed. I have however worked with Lockheed employees (unacknowledged) in certain "Black Projects".

    (Hiram)
    I'll tell you Ringo, It was almost as if the town had been taken over by something, from underground!


    (Ringo) I just remembered! This may interest you slightly more. To the East of Ellsworth AFB (Delta-V Experience) on I-90 there is a small town called New Underwood (SD) (Now doesn't THAT sound like a town or village in a Horror or Occult movie!). My x-wife and I visited there looking for off-base rental housing. We drove around, even had lunch there, and talked to quite a few people. They were ALL really friendly. Almost too friendly. And something about the place just felt strongly weird and not-right, to both of us. We never EVER went back to that place!

    Anyone else have experiences like this?
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    Sorry but felt this was relevent.A cut and paste from Sa Lu Sa's channeled December 3rd message.Reminded me of the video Bill refered to earlier in the thread.

    We note that as our craft are seen more frequently in your skies, the dark Ones are also coming out more into the open. Their secret craft are not in any way like the conventional ones you are used to seeing. They are similar to some of ours, but as a guide we would suggest you reserve your judgement where triangular craft are concerned. Perhaps a give away sign is the system of coloured lights used to identify your own, which are not to be found on ours. Yes, we do sometimes have circular craft that are lit up on the rims, but these usually run all the way round. You have no need to be concerned about any craft you see, as we monitor them all and know with what intent are within your earth’s atmosphere. Bear in mind that we come in peace, and are to protect you from any other intrusion and possible attack upon you.

    Source: http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/...cember2010.htm

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    The big question to me now is, to what extent should we regard all black triangular UFO as being USAF military aircraft? What about the one seen over Moscow? Can we infer this as evidence of military collaboration?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...re-Moscow.html
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2937

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    Any updates Hiram?

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    Being an abductee in training we get to see some interesting technology. I remember being allowed to fly a much smaller triangle back in the 1980's, my son flew what seems to be the same type craft in the last couple of years. I don't remember much about it, but it did not seem to have landing gear but instead levitated about a foot or so off the ground. It was black, about 6' to 8' wide at its wides point and maybe 10' or so long. The cockpit had no buttons but did have a typical HUD like in a F-16 (without the control panel), the craft interface system was made by placing your right hand on what felt like a joystick except it did not move. The craft seemed to fly by intent and was incredibly quick and fast. I remember having a wingman and us flying to two different bases that night.

    Of particular note is this was on an air force base as on the other side of the flight line fence sat a grey C-130. My real opinion is this was a consciousness only training and nothing physical ever happened, but at least 7 people I have found remember flying this same craft.

    Anyway, for what it's worth.

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    Am in a big hurry right now, but both the U.S. and the Andromedans fly the triangular craft. I'm sure that the one pictured, however, is U.S.
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    That video stinks fake
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    Daytime UFO Recorded From Passenger Plane

    For a brief moment at the beginning of the video you can plainly see this is a Delta-Winged Craft.



    Here is a screen-shot of it.



    This craft appears to be similar to one I witnessed back in 1980 when I was in the A.F. I seen this craft twice: Once in a hangar and once hovering completely silently over the tarmac at the far-end of the runway.

    These are man-made and they are space craft.

    The one I saw was unmarked, which led me to believe even at that time that it probably wasn't owned or operated by the "Known Military".

    A short article on this siting can be found at Examiner.com

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