Doug Hagmann's DHS Source: "It’s about to get very ugly"

[Bill Ryan]

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http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8562#more-8562

DHS insider: It’s about to get very ugly

(posted a few hours ago)
(extract)

The details

Doug Hagmann's DHS Insider:
“If anyone thinks that what’s going on right now with all of this surveillance of American citizens is to fight some sort of foreign enemy, they’re delusional. If people think that this ‘scandal’ can’t get any worse, it will, hour by hour, day by day. This has the ability to bring down our national leadership, the administration and other senior elected officials working in collusion with this administration, both Republican and Democrats. People within the NSA, the Department of Justice, and others, they know who they are, need to come forth with the documentation of ‘policy and practice’ in their possession, disclose what they know, fight what’s going on, and just do their job. I have never seen anything like this, ever. The present administration is going after leakers, media sources, anyone and everyone who is even suspected of ‘betrayal.” That’s what they call it, ‘betrayal.’ Can you believe the size of their cahones? This administration considers anyone telling the truth about Benghazi, the IRS, hell, you name the issue, ‘betrayal,’” he said.

“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.

“What’s that exactly mean, being on that list, that is,” I asked, trying to make sense of it all.

“It means that there will be censorship under the color of authority of anyone in the U.S. who is attempting to expose what’s going on in our name. It’s about controlling any damning information from reaching epidemic proportions. It’s damage control to the extreme. It’s about the upcoming censorship of the internet in the name of national security. The plans are already in place. These latest reports about “spying eyes” have turned this administration and others connected to it into something very, very dangerous. They feel cornered and threatened, and I’m hearing about some plans they have to shut down the flow of information that is implicating them of wrongdoing. Time is short,” he stated.

“How are they going to do this? How is it even possible?” I asked.

“First, they intend to use the Justice Department to silence journalists like in the Rosen case, but they won’t stop there. They will use a host of national security policies, laws, letters, whatever to take out the bigger threats,” he stated.

Next, they will use some sort of excuse, an external threat, and I believe it will be a combination of the economic collapse and a Mid-East war that will begin in Syria to throttle the information that is accessible on the Internet. And you know what? People will believe it!”

Based on what I’ve seen, most of which I should not have seen, the DHS is co-ordinating efforts with other federal agencies to begin to threaten American citizens with incarceration for non-compliance. You know the old talk of color coded lists? Well, this is what they will be using. People exposing the truth about Benghazi, killing the U.S. Dollar, even those questioning Obama’s legal status and eligibility to be President are the current targets. And they’ve had five long years to get to this point. The ugly truth is that these policies and practices did not start under Obama, but long before. This is about the killing of our Constitutional Republic. The murder of our country and the stripping of our rights. While many have been preoccupied with one issue, few have seen the bigger issue. "This is the ‘end game,’ for all the marbles,” he stated.

More to come

“Please,” pleaded my source, “get this information out while you can. Tell people what I’m saying, that we don’t have much time, that after the latest exposure of spying, Obama, Jarrett, Axelrod, and others, including members of Congress, have put their plans into high gear. This is about the Marxist takeover of America. This is about our country being able to survive another July 4th holiday. This is about a world war about to break out that will kill millions of people, all because of the agenda of this administration.”

“They are very dangerous and will do anything and everything to stop the onslaught of negative information that’s being reported by the main stream media. But only about one quarter of the real information is being reported. The other three quarters will be the game changer. But first, tell people what I’ve said. Let them know that more will follow but get this information out right now while the internet is still relatively free. Do it today.”

My source provided additional information, but I am abiding by his wish to get this much out. I am writing now to let people know that we are in for seriously dangerous times ahead. Deadly times. War, and censorship under the color of authority and under the pretext of of national security. It’s about to get a lot uglier. Stay tuned.

Download the entire article as a PDF

[Bill Ryan]

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As many Avalon members will know, for over a year now I've been closely following Doug Hagmann's reports of information leaked to him from 'Rosebud', his high-level contact deep in the DHS.

Everything I know leads me to believe that this is authentic, as I believe are all his previous reports. All the available information absolutely aligns with this. In my view, this is not fear-mongering, this is reality.

I met and spoke with a friend yesterday, an emigrant Pole who was born soon after the end of WW II. In turn, he has a great many Polish and Russian friends. He told me that they can all, every one of them, feel it in their bones, in their genetic memory: our times today are very similar to those his compatriots lived through -- and later suffered through -- in Europe in 1938.

[white wizard]

Yes i knew there was something going on behind the scenes, but

I doubt they will be able to close the door of dirty secrets coming

out of the Government. I posted this in my earlier thread how it all

seemed fishy.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...928#post683928

If this source is somewhat reliable, which I do not know then things

may soon get interesting. Either way one thing is certain when the

people wake up there is nothing that will put them back to sleep.

Hopefully all this will shake people to finally wake up.

On a side note The back lash from all these scandals going on is

kinda surprising as well.

[Azt]

Just one thing Bill, when someone click on the PDF download link, it goes to a strange "DHS IP address" ... Not sure if that is not another way to capture/collect IPS address of people who click on the PDF download link for the list referred above...

From Bill: It goes to http://homelandsecurityus.com -- which is Doug Hagmann's website.

[TigaHawk]

The wall is full of cracks, stuff is leaking through left right and centre. They can try to plug it all they want, it's only going to hold for a little while longer before it all comes crashing down ontop of them. There is not a thing they can do successfully to stop this from happening.

More and more people are awake, they understand how wrong things are but feel powerless to do anything about it. What the PTB are doing now is pushing these people into a corner. Once in the corner there is one thing they cannot stop from happening - the people fighting back and ending this bull****.

Bring it on.

[Bill Ryan]

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To share my thoughts: if I was a high-level DHS strategic planner, I would now be considering a very major, dramatic, and emotionally traumatic false flag event within the US in order to justify the big clampdown with the minimum of objection or protest.

[johnf]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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To share my thoughts: if I was a high-level DHS strategic planner, I would now be considering a very major, dramatic, and emotionally traumatic false flag event within the US in order to justify the big clampdown with the minimum of objection or protest.

Even while taking the above info from the dhs person with my usual pillar of salt, I must agree with your statement Bill.
And thats just from watching what is being said in the "official" news, things are starting to shake, and that opens the door for nefarious counter measures.
I frustrate myself, I saw a link on FB today that mentioned a New york times article that suggested that it is time to repeal the patriot act, anyone see this? I can not find it now.

[northstar]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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To share my thoughts: if I was a high-level DHS strategic planner, I would now be considering a very major, dramatic, and emotionally traumatic false flag event within the US in order to justify the big clampdown with the minimum of objection or protest.

Agreed but they also have to find a way to stifle the free flow of information on the internet.

In terms of media propaganda and programming, TV and radio are already tools of the control system.

All resistance is coming from the internet now. For example, using the internet and the "Swarming Principles" developed by Rick Falkvinge, three million people worldwide were mobilized for the March Against Monsanto May 25 in a matter of weeks.

http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/14/swarmwise-the-tactical-manual-to-changing-the-world-chapter-one/

In the last year a number of bills have already been proposed in the US that give the gov't far reaching abilities to shut down websites under the pretext of "copyright infringement". If an assault against liberty occurs you will see many alternative websites shut down permanently. Authoritarian control systems do not want people to be informed of anything beyond gov't sanctioned propaganda. In addition, those sovereign free thinkers who post on such sites will be tracked and very likely blacklisted.

Finally, (and I hope this is not off topic), I recently listened to an interview of a lady by the name of Julia Davis on Red Ice radio. She was a gov't immigration worker, an average person, who made the huge mistake of complaining about a security flaw she discovered in the immigration department where she worked. Instead of being congratulated for doing her job properly and pointing out a flaw in the system, she and her husband have been put through a hellish ordeal by the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and the IRS! This was a lady who never did anything wrong in her life - she was just doing her job! If anyone out there is thinking "I have nothing to worry about because I am not a criminal", you should really listen to that interview. Julia Davis was not a criminal - she was an honest hard working, average citizen, until the Department of Homeland Security decided to make her life a living hell.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-130526.php

[ghostrider]

I've been having strange dreams the last three days, and today there was a spooky calm in the air ...something is on the threshold, yes I can feel it ... red alert , shields up ...

[Snookie]

I agree with Bill about the FF event happening, but I don't think it will just be on US soil. I think they will be staged all over the world so this will give the scoundrels the excuse to bring in their NWO agenda with a bang. I wouldn't be surprised if plans like this are being discussed at the Bilderberg meeting right now.

If it is true that the Nazi and Zionist factions have struck a tentative truce in order to bring their common goal of a NWO about, now seems to be as good a time as any.

They are starting to panic because they realize the masses are starting to wake up, and they better git 'er done PDQ!

[spiritguide]

It will soon be time to communicate with ham radios. Get those crystals set up and burning again.

[Vitalux]

All I see is love

But then again, my mind is like the soil of a garden.
It tends to grow what is planted.

[gripreaper]

My first thought is: We live in duality, and when the extremes of the nefarious negative agenda are at such extremes, the equal and opposite energy does "blowback".

Yes, we can site previous epochs where the adverse polarity took on a life of it's own and was able to sustain a "peak" of fear and loathing, but the balance remains and the backlash is not linear. This force can be "pent up" and coiled until it overwhelms the opposite.

The "firing" off of this energy, when viewed from a non dual state, does create an amalgamation and a synthesis which has the potential to move into a unified field where it becomes a manifestation of something totally new, not polarized.

The elite want to divide and conquer and keep things polarized to the extreme, yet even they know the secret, that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Doing their dastardly deeds in stealth and "as the frog boils" is safer for them, for they still believe they can "steer" the outcome and control the backlash...

BUT...they are going against a time in history which we have not experienced for a very long time, which includes all the original DNA race memories in every soul, the experiences of many lifetimes also encoded in that DNA, plus several hundred years of very arrogant tyranny, which has escalated and is no longer stealth, but is flagrantly out in the open.

The laws of physics dictate that a "flash point" is inevitable, the 100th monkey showing up, as energy cannot be mocked or made to recess in the face of inertia. That inertia is afoot and we can all feel it. The message is going out into the very matrix, the very fabric of the universe, emanating from every heart and soul, and is amalgamating into it's inevitable birth.

The internet has been the great equalizer, the great accelerator, the great amalgamate, the great awakener, and when enough people have had enough, they hold enough cards to bring out all the truth into the light of day. Only through segregation has information appeared to be scattered and the dots appear not to connect. Let the white hats and the average Joe begin to speak, and all the dots will connect.

What kind of world we create when the energy coalesces and forms a new manifestation cannot be controlled by a small handful of alien psychopaths who use Satanic magic to control the matrix because the inertia of OUR synthesis will just be too strong. Their attempt at controlling both polarities for their synthesis is part of their dialectic, but is cannot be sustained when a remnant of say 20% of us wake up.

If they feel the time is now or forever lose their control, I say "bring it on". Even if 2 billion of us leave the planet and things get really ugly, the soul energy that will be in the matrix as these 2 billion souls exit will be impossible to control. Success is assured, no matter what they try. That's my belief and that is what I'm emanating and that's my story and I'm sticking to it, even if I am one of the ones who exits this incarnation. I'm not giving up on the dream, no matter what.

[jiminii]

the same web they created to take over with collapse on them ... I am finding right now people coming to me that have some of the highest Operating THetan abilities on the planet ,, and I am sure if I am constantly being audited from the future .. then they are too ... and they created their own brick wall .. when people see how obvious how nuts they are and see if they do anything to help them they will be losing there own jobs and their own prosperity they will not follow ,, they will not get a quick response any more ,, and by the time they do it will be too late ,, they are check mated and all the sleeper children will be spontaneously waking up .you don't know how powerful thought is .. a spirits space is so strong bullets can't enter it ... so all these thoughts ... will make walls as solid as steel .. and every direction they turn to will be a stop ... they are now rats in the corner and everyone see's them as rats ... and the best that they can get out of this is total insanity or suicide ... and they know it .. because they have to confront us now and they are cowards ...

THIS IS THE EVENT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ... don't need to shrink your space ... just stand proud and let it happen

peace

him

[naste.de.lumina]

I may be naive here, but the question is Deep Web could not be a provisional or temporary way to hide attacks sites?
Since proceed with a connection, just find a cave.

[jiminii]

any kind of space opera they try to create will backfire on them ... there is enough truth now showing up everywhere ... the very fact that they will resist defeat will cause their own defeat .. the more they resist the more they will fall and harder ... those who are with us in the stars around the planet will not allow it ... we needed to get it to this point ... where they are now petrified at every move they make .. and all moves will be stopped and they will be gone forever in our lives ... it is like imagining you have this boil on your leg .. and you just squeeze that boil out of your body ... and what you are doing is basically "THEY ARE NOT IN MY UNIVERSE ANYMORE" .. and that statement alone puts them outside the game ... it is like when I say, "I never get sick" .. it is like I had all these little bumps appear on my hand .. and I just decided to move their Genetic Entities off my hand .. without a GE the physical creation can not survive ... next morning all the bumps are gone ... You have to decide "THEY ARE NOT IN OUR UNIVERSE ANYMORE" .. and everything they do will be like they are not here ... hahahahahah

I love it ... .. all the things I went for are coming to completion

jim

[Mike Gorman]

This reinforces, confirms and unfortunately illustrates what most of us have been feeling and thinking for a long spell; that big Pendulum is on its way back
in the deadly Arc of history. We have had the big 'Liberal' epoch, the party is definitely over-time to put away the party clothes maybe...I defy these assholes to
try and subjugate us-i think they are in for a rude shock, Bilderburg may be in progress-but there are a lot more people who are Hip to what is going down,
it won't be smooth sailing for them. I'm an optimist, but these times seem strangely familiar to me also-WWII had only been over 13 years when I was born, I recall
the legacy of it in the U.K, there were still Air Raid sirens set up. All the best of luck comrades!

[witchy1]

I started using this today on recommendation from an IT savvy guy.....does anyone have experience with it please spotflux.com
its meant to stop any threat to your identity and data (it has slowed me up a bit tho)
Thanks
Karen

[witchy1]

Oh this is why I looked for more protection - PRISM

It's the codename for a very real US government program. According to leaked documents, it went into effect in 2007, and has only gained momentum since. Its stated purpose is to monitor potentially valuable foreign communications that might pass through US servers, but it appears that in practice its scope was far greater.
So for 6 years they have been capturing this
email, VOIP, files on your computer, your photos, downloaded data,....effectively everything you do on line!



PRISM information, according to the Post, accounts for nearly 1 in 7 intelligence reports. That's staggering.
...that gives the NSA unprecedented access to the servers of major tech companies...

Microsoft. Yahoo. Google. Facebook. PalTalk. AOL. Skype. YouTube. Apple. If you've interacted with any of those companies in the last six years, that information is vulnerable under PRISM.

Source: http://gizmodo.com/what-is-prism-511875267

Stomy has alternatives for us here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Yahoo-Google-...-

[northstar]

In my opinion, it always comes back to the internet.

If the internet can be co-opted and controlled, and "dangerous" alternative ideas from freethinking, sovereign people can be silenced, then the authoritarian control system (and their archon masters) will be able to fully domesticate us into a nice, compliant herd that can be controlled and farmed for energy.

A breaking story printed in the Guardian reveals the USA gov't plans to cyber-attack foreign threats, but of course these plans also include the the American people. Recent revelations that the everyday communications of common citizens in being collected should be utterly chilling to the American population. (the Verizon story). The first step to tyranny is the collecting of the data. The next step is what will be done with the data.

Obama orders US to draw up overseas target list for cyber-attacks

Just in case anyone is still unclear on the implications of this watch the "Brave new World" movie, or better yet, read the "Brave New World" book by Aldous Huxley. If the world depicted in the movie is not the type of world you want to live in, then do something now while we still have the freedom to act.