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    Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    The 29-year-old source behind the biggest intelligence leak in the NSA's history explains
    his motives, his uncertain future and why he never intended on hiding in the shadows

    • Q&A with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden: 'I do not expect to see home again'


    The individual responsible for one of the most significant leaks in US political history is
    Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA and current
    employee of the defence contractor Booz Allen Hamilton. Snowden has been working at
    the National Security Agency for the last four years as an employee of various outside
    contractors, including Booz Allen and Dell.

    The Guardian, after several days of interviews, is revealing his identity at his request.
    From the moment he decided to disclose numerous top-secret documents to the public,
    he was determined not to opt for the protection of anonymity. "I have no intention of
    hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong," he said.


    Read More...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-surveillance

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Obama defends NSA surveillance programs




    Published on 7 Jun 2013


    After The Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald released a story detailing how the
    NSA has been collecting the records of million of Verizon customers, the Obama
    administration has been defending the actions of the agency. The topic of
    surveillance has taken center stage and still more information continues to come
    out explaining how the government is willing to do whatever it takes to spy on
    Americans. RT's Anastasia Churkina and Colonel Morris Davis sound off on the
    latest developments.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    SURPRISE SURPRISE !! Its always the 'Bogey Man'...



    Published on 9 Jun 2013


    For the past seven years, the NSA has had a secret court order to obtain all phone
    records of Verizon customers. This all became a reality after Guardian reporter
    Glenn Greenwald exposed the practice, but now President Obama is claiming this is
    a necessary evil to win the ongoing war on terror. Sahar Aziz, associate professor
    of law at Texas Wesleyan University, brings us more.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Official government response to NSA surveillance leak:

    There, there now. Calm down. Everything is fine here. There is nothing to see here.
    Move along and do what you are told by the police and the armed forces marching in your streets.
    Yes, we have all citizens under constant surveillance but it is being done for your best interest!
    Yes, we are destroying your privacy but we are doing it to protect you!
    Be a good little herd member and obey us and stop questioning the actions of the police state.
    Go home and take some Xanax and turn on the TV and watch some nice distracting reality TV.



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    Obama response to NSA scandal inadequate, alarming

    During President Barack Obama’s public press conference addressing the leaks from the National Security Agency’s controversial PRISM Internet surveillance program and court-ordered seizure of Verizon phone records, he reiterated his campaign’s most vital commitments — to keep the American people safe and adhere to the principles of the constitution.

    What ensued was a flimsy, evasive justification of an egregious overreach of government powers followed by a trite, political appeal to the American public.

    “Nobody is listening to your telephone calls,” the president ensured.

    What the NSA says it is doing, however, is collecting metadata — information ranging from call locations, durations and telephone numbers — a diminutive term that is likely being used for public relations purposes to avoid public suspicion.

    The president further distanced himself from culpability by reminding the American public that congressional oversight committees, along with all elected officials, were aware of these programs all along and that all warrants for privacy intrusion were granted by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a cryptic government establishment created with the passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978.
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    Quote Posted by northstar (here)
    Official government response to NSA surveillance leak:

    There, there now. Calm down. Everything is fine here. There is nothing to see here.
    Move along and do what you are told by the police and the army forces marching in your streets.
    Yes, we have all citizens under constant surveillance but it is being done for your best interest!
    Yes, we are destroying your privacy but we are doing it to protect you!
    Be a good little herd member and obey us and stop questioning the actions of the police state.
    Go home and take some Xanax and turn on the TV and watch some nice distracting reality TV.
    Ohhh and do not forget to pay their taxes correctly, you know, this whole welfare and security costs a few bucks.

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    Obama response to NSA scandal inadequate, alarming

    During President Barack Obama’s public press conference addressing the leaks from the National Security Agency’s controversial PRISM Internet surveillance program and court-ordered seizure of Verizon phone records, he reiterated his campaign’s most vital commitments — to keep the American people safe and adhere to the principles of the constitution.

    What ensued was a flimsy, evasive justification of an egregious overreach of government powers followed by a trite, political appeal to the American public.

    “Nobody is listening to your telephone calls,” the president ensured.

    What the NSA says it is doing, however, is collecting metadata — information ranging from call locations, durations and telephone numbers — a diminutive term that is likely being used for public relations purposes to avoid public suspicion.

    The president further distanced himself from culpability by reminding the American public that congressional oversight committees, along with all elected officials, were aware of these programs all along and that all warrants for privacy intrusion were granted by the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, a cryptic government establishment created with the passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978.
    Last edited by naste.de.lumina; 10th June 2013 at 07:07.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Snowden is going to be found dead, or have a nice little accident....or caught and crucified by the USG. The CIA are no doubt looking for him as well, they may use deadly force.

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    My question is, how have the elite and those in power benefited from the implementation of PRISM? Will they be able to gain financially by, for example, having access to information that may boost inside trading in the stockmarket?

    Thanks to PRISM, the rich are going to get richer and the common man is going to be left further and further behind. That precarious demarcation between the 'haves' and the 'have nots' is going to continue to grow where someday, in the near future, that gap will be so wide, our world will not even be recognizable anymore because by then, we, the common people, will be fighting for our very existence.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    This revelation is not shocking to everyone here so the significance lies with this whistleblower being in the mainstream media. I guess it's shocking to the mainstream and I hope it's makes a few more people sit up and take notice and maybe look into other whistleblowers and subjects.
    I wonder did he learn anything from other whistleblowers about being out in the public as much as possible to make it harder to be silenced.
    I'm starting to believe that this is really the age of revealing/truth. I dare say the alternative information is becoming more accessable, more of a curiosity to more people.
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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    MSN had a catchy little piece of mainstream propaganda this morning.

    The headline reads....
    "We trust the government to do the right thing to protect the country. Polls suggest most Americans support infringement on civil liberties to catch terrorists."

    Looks like the mainstream border collies are under orders to try and contain the sheep.
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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    This is a good article...

    Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Posted by Pam Suggs on June 9, 2013 at 7:25pm in Activsm

    http://unitedtruthseekers.com/forum/...veillance-reve

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden Comes Forward as Source of NSA Leaks

    Finally , some real insider with true and verifiable information ! Kudos to him , I have a feeling he will not be alive or in the public eye for much longer , ahhh hummmm death squads , did I say that out loud hmmm sorry

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    I want to say Mr. Snowden deserves a Nobel prize, but unfortunately, a former Peace Prize winner will probably have his administration ignore the crimes that have been exposed, promote the chief perpetrators of these crimes to new positions of power, and then have Mr. Snowden arrested and imprisoned.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    And here is another great article...


    Time for Europe to stop being complicit in NSA's crimes
    June 10, 2013 - 12:11pm

    http://www.neurope.eu/blog/time-euro...it-nsas-crimes

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden Comes Forward as Source of NSA Leaks

    Hi Eric, I fear you are correct. And so does Edward. He seems very aware that his potential life span has now dwindled to perhaps a fraction of what it once was...and seems oddly at peace with it.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden Comes Forward as Source of NSA Leaks

    There is another thread on this topic with a lot more information...I suggest a merge...

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ce-revelations

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden Comes Forward as Source of NSA Leaks

    Many of the radio call in shows here in the states are debating whether this man is a hero or villain, which in my opinion is a colossal waste of energy and very clearly misses the point. Though I think this is done intentionally in an attempt to muddy the waters, to distract people from the real issue here.

    Expect a smear campaign from the Obama administration(of course). They'll have to get pretty creative though. As Edward points out, he sacrificed a cushy job that paid him $200,000 a year, an idyllic home in Hawaii, and a chance to ever live and work again on his home soil. The information that he leaked to the public could have easily been sold to the Russians for a small fortune, but he didn't go that route. And he could have remained anonymous, but he *chose* to come forward...

    The word 'hero' has been so diluted and exploited by the American government for so long as to render it almost meaningless, but I feel compelled to use it here. Edward Snowden is a hero, a hero of the greatest magnitude.

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    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    There is another thread on this topic with a lot more information...I suggest a merge...

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ce-revelations

    Damnit, and I even used that "has this info been posted before" option

    Thanks Kimberly!

    Mods please close this thread. Thank you.
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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Threads have been merged.

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    We have to sacrifice the privacy to win the war against terrorist.... That was very convincing LOL
    Sad thing is that people knew that before but just don't care anymore. They feel too weak against government, they are affraid for their lives, have no power to react, small protests will take place but no harm for the elite. All this disclosure will be forgotten for a short period of time.
    What's next ? My guess is michrochipping for their own security

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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

    Maybe they won't kill this guy. I certainly hope they don't. At this point it would work against the cabal to keep eliminating everybody that comes forward. Snowden had reached a very high profile here and Obama is already fumbling over himself trying to weasel out of this mess. All it would do is mobilize the masses and wake up the remaining dead. They may as well declare martial law already and show their hand, because it's already out in the open.
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