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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

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    I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?
    No, Bill is not in hiding.

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    Why did he leave Hong Kong???

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

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    I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?
    No, Bill is not in hiding.
    You just can't see him...

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    Interesting, yesterday, andtoday I have been thinking, maybe Bill will do an interview, um not likely.
    Here is just one reason.
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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    I would think that as long as Ed Snowden is traveling around or in any country around the planet he will always be vulnerable to the long reach of the arm of the USA.

    My opinion is he would be better staying in the public eye within a consulate safe house in a safe country. Maybe that is what he is trying to do.

    I am not sure why he did not do that to begin with. Before he even released the information.

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    Where is Snowden? Likely in Moscow airport transit zone, awaiting flight to Cuba



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    NSA contractor-turned whistleblower Edward Snowden
    is awaiting a flight out of Moscow, which is thought to
    be destined for Cuba, and leaving in just a matter of
    hours. He arrived in the Russian capital on Sunday
    having fled Hong Kong with Washington in hot pursuit.
    RT's corresponders report from the airport.

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

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    I'm confused, is Bill Ryan also hiding from the government in Ecuador?
    No, I'm 100% legally here, with all necessary papers granted and in hand.



    What Mike Adams describes about the safety of a high-profile 'wanted' gringo may be pretty much correct. One might be able to hide out forever in the rain forest, no matter who's searching, but not in Quito or Guayaquil.
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    Chase Mode: US set to catch Snowden amid biggest hunt for whistleblowers



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    Washington has revoked Edward Snowden's passport
    and said that he should be prevented from traveling
    any further. That's as officials demand that he be
    returned to the jurisdiction of the United States.
    Some lawmakers are urging Washington to spare
    no effort to put him on trial in the US, even going
    so far as to threaten Russia over its involvement.
    RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports.

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    Well I just heard on the radio 175 people , mostly reporters were on the plane he was suppose to board for cuba, they all took off except snowden wasn't on board, ah yes 12 hour flight with a bunch of reporters, what a trip that will be LOL.

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    Game Set Match: 'US loses as Snowden slips from their hands'



    Published on 23 Jun 2013


    US whistleblower Edward Snowden is en route to Moscow
    from Hong Kong on an Aeroflot flight, Hong Kong authorities
    have confirmed. The US filed an extradition order for
    Snowden alleging espionage, theft and conversion of
    government property. Asia times correspondent and
    international affairs analyst Pepe Escobar believes we'll
    witness an unprecedented persecution of whistleblowers
    by the U.S. from time to time

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    NSA leaker Snowden on the run after charged with espionage



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    On Friday evening, news broke that US officials formally charged whistleblower
    Edward Snowden with espionage. Since The Guardian's story of the NSA spying
    scandal was released, the 30-year-old has been jumping from country-to-country
    to avoid extradition to the US. The leaker was last seen boarding a plane heading
    to Moscow and now his whereabouts are unknown. John Hulsman, president of
    John C. Hulsman Enterprises, and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern joins us with
    more on the possible outcomes of this manhunt.

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    Lightbulb Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    He surely has lots more data or the Russians wouldn't even bother with him... This story of Putin wanting to "Put his thumb in the eye of America" is just stupid (And after my eye surgery for a detached retina last night upsetting!)!...

    The poor guy will now be VERY lucky if the Russians do not strip him of what leverage (Documents/Data) he has left then leave his skinny rear end flapping in the wind. Hopefully he played things smarter than that. If not he may not ever be seen again.

    I have an Idea that BRICS is very excited to get their hands on some of this documentation to prove that the CABAL/Americans and European Families are ruling the world through black mail and murder AND have proof of their main TOOL!

    From what I was told Snowden had access to the Databases that could have given him exactly that info by source A, also source B and C concur that this data was confirmed as accessed without authorization around this time frame and Contract/Organization ID's, DING DING DING...

    There is a lot of freaking out going on in the background both people crapping a brick in fear and others hoping, crossing their fingers and holding their breaths that this info does get to BRICS and IS RELEASED and not just used as leverage.

    Trolls from various agencies are white knuckled right now reading this kind of info in OPEN FORUMS... even reading along with you now! TRUST ME!


    B.S. They know what he has... what he accessed. What he most likely has and it has them scared and freaking out...

    http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-s...worried-2013-6

    The NSA Has No Idea How Much Secret Data Edward Snowden Took, And That Has Them Very Worried
    PAUL SZOLDRA AND MICHAEL KELLEY JUN. 24, 2013, 7:25 PM 8,625 33



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    U.S. intelligence agencies still don't know how much sensitive material former Booz Allen contractor Edward Snowden obtained before leaking top-secret documents and fleeing the country, Mark Hosenball of Reuters reports.
    Snowden was able to cover some of his tracks when he accessed information about the operations of the National Security Agency (NSA) and its British equivalent, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), U.S. officials told Reuters.

    It's definitely unclear how much information he actually has. On Sunday Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Snowden had roughly 200 documents in his possession.

    Earlier this month, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald told The New York Times that Snowden gave him “thousands” of documents, “dozens” of which Greenwald says are newsworthy.

    From Reuters:

    The agencies fear that Snowden may have taken many more documents than officials initially estimated and that his alliance with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange increases the likelihood that they will be made public without considering the security implications, they said.

    Snowden is traveling with Sarah Harrison, Assange's closest advisor.

    WikiLeaks has published reams of classified U.S. government documents, including the "Afghan War Logs" in July 2010 and the "Iraq War Logs" in October 2010. The New York Times and other news organizations began publishing State Department cables obtained from WikiLeaks in November 2010.

    Snowden had four laptops in his possession when he was in Hong Kong, and he told the South China Morning Post that he got a job at Booz Allen to gather evidence on surveillance methods.

    "My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," Snowden said. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago."

    Almost no one knows where Snowden currently is.

    This weekend the former CIA technician left a government safe house in Hong Kong and flew to Moscow, where he then booked a Monday flight to Cuba but didn't show.

    On Sunday, he requested asylum in Ecuador, and on Monday Reuters reported he had received refugee papers from Ecuador "to secure him safe passage as he fled Hong Kong over the weekend."

    In August, Ecuador granted political asylum to Assange, who is currently holed up in the country's London embassy.



    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-s...#ixzz2XEnOmoV3
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    Assange: Snowden, Manning victims of Obama's war on whistleblowers



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    Edward Snowden and Wikileaks' Sarah Harrison who is accompanying him are "safe and
    healthy," Julian Assange said during a conference call broadcast by RT.

    "The current status of Mr Snowden and Harrison is that both are healthy and safe and
    they are in contact with their legal teams," the WikiLeaks founder said. "I cannot give
    further information as to their whereabouts," Assange added.

    "Snowden is not a traitor, he is not a spy he is a whistleblower who told the public the
    important truth," he pointed out.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    WikiLeaks on Snowden: Whereabouts secret, more leaks to come



    Published on 25 Jun 2013


    RT talks to WikiLeaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson about what awaits Snowden, and
    how the whistleblowing website is involved in his fate.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Wikileaks take on MSM coverage of Snowden saga




    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    RT's Anastasia Churkina sits down with Wikileaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson to
    talk about the mainstream media frenzy over Snowden and the NSA scandal, why their
    are focusing on flakey aspects of the story, and whether the PRISM revelation is a sign
    of more shocking details to come
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    'Snowden never crossed border, US threats unacceptable' - Russia



    Published on 25 Jun 2013


    Washington's allegations over US fugitive Edward Snowden are
    'unacceptable' as he never crossed the Russian border, Russia's
    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. As a consequence, any
    attempt to accuse or threaten Moscow by the US is unfounded.

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    Ex-CIA Chief: Snowden neither hero, nor traitor but very troubled young man



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    PRISM-gate has made Edward Snowden a well known whistleblower.
    America is split over what to believe. Does NSA tapping of private
    phones helps fight terror and Snowden is a traitor who's endangered
    the nation? Or is it a violation of the US constitution and Snowden is
    a hero to have braved talking against the government? Former NSA
    and CIA director Michael Hayden speaks his mind on SophieCo.

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    So what's REALLY happening now in the world that they have all of our attention on Snowden? Maybe the predicted disaster for June 26th or so is going to happen while we're looking at him.... Something FEMA/DHS/US govt have up their sleeves to shock us with?

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    Default Re: Ed Snowden beware: confirmed history of running covert abductions of Americans in Ecuador

    Yep, it may be so that the extreme bullying threatening paranoia from the USA government is what Eddie has not yet revealed.

    What he has revealed so far is not 'new' news as other whistle blowers have been exposing this for years (but they did not have the proof that he deliberately and carefully gathered).

    In the meanwhile ... here is an amusing distraction (Where is Eddie? Can you spot the world's most wanted man?)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...en-in-pictures
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    Why US Extradition Requests for Snowden are Ignored



    Published on 24 Jun 2013


    As Edward Snowden flees from the United States,
    he's found sympathetic governments around the
    world to assist in his flight to asylum. China, Russia,
    Cuba, and Ecuador are all playing a role in this saga,
    leaving the United States wondering why it can't find
    a willing partner to assist in Snowden's arrest. Political
    Commentator Sam Sacks breaks down the reasons
    why few are willing to do the United States a favor
    when it comes to capturing Snowden.

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    Putin confirms NSA leaker Snowden in Moscow



    Published on 25 Jun 2013


    For the past 24 hours, the mainstream media has
    been on all over the possible whereabouts of
    whistleblower Edward Snowden. On Tuesday,
    Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that
    Snowden remains in the transit zone of the airport
    in Moscow. As of now, the leaker's final destination
    is unknown, but Putin expressed that leaving Russia
    would be in the best interest of both parties.
    International human rights lawyer Stanley
    Cohen sounds off on the Snowden case

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    Donald Trump Says Snowden Should Be Assassinated

    Extradition process and justice system are too slow for would-be presidential candidate

    Steve Watson
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    June 25, 2013

    Donald Trump, a man who has previously and may once again tout himself as a presidential candidate,
    believes that the American justice system is too slow and cumbersome to deal with whistleblowers like former NSA analyst Edward Snowden.
    Labeling Snowden a “spy”, Trump went on Fox News to advocate his immediate “execution”.
    In a vomit inducing interview with Fox and Friends, Trump, in his infinite wisdom, stated:
    “You know, spies in the old days used to be executed.”

    Quote naste. => 'Traitors also Mr. Trump not forget that.'


    “This guy is becoming a hero in some circles. Now, I will say, with the passage of time, even people that were sort of liking him and were trying to go on his side are maybe dropping out…”
    “We have to get him back and we have to get him back fast. It could take months or it could take years, and that would be pathetic.” The Donald noted.
    Blatantly advocating that Snowden be assassinated, Trump suggested that the US would somehow cease to exist, should he be allowed to live and divulge secret information on government surveillance and other unconstitutional practices.
    “This guy’s a bad guy and, you know, there’s still a thing called execution,” he said.
    “You really have to take a strong… You have thousands of people with access to material like this. We’re not going to have a country any longer.” Trump continued.
    Ironically, that reasoning was EXACTLY why Snowden went public with the material on the NSA in the first place – because he could not face living in a country that treats its own citizens like suspects and actively spies on all their communications.
    Trump also labelled journalists who covered the story “disgraceful”, saying that newspapers should not have printed the details of the revelations.
    Trump’s lack of understanding of the Bill Of Rights and the Fourth Amendment will not come as a surprise to regular readers, given his attacks on former Congressman Ron Paul last year.
    Despite him being the most constitutionally sound presidential candidate in decades, Trump called Paul a “joke” candidate, and belittled his Libertarian outlook on foreign policy, saying Paul did not care about foreign affairs such as “if Iran has a nuclear weapon that can wipe out Israel.”

    Source: http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump...-assassinated/
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