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    Hello,
    Many of you have seen my Threads on the "Secret Space Programs" and The "Break Away Civilizations" that exist along with the ET/ED visitors/watchers that frequent our busy little Solar System. I say Civilizations because as I understand it there have been several Human (For the most part.) Earth Civilizations that have risen and fallen who have had their own "Break Away Civilizations" that have moved below ground, further out into our Solar System and Beyond thousands of years ago that still play a part in what goes on "At Home".

    This article below caught my attention as it comes from a book I plan on taking a look at here soon to weigh the % of disinfo to info compared to my understanding of what is disinfo and info from experience and sources. I am posting also related links to threads I have posted as well.

    WE ALL know that there is a great awakening going on. We are seeing all of these scandals and have been waiting very impatiently for the "Cabal" or slave masters to be exposed and arrested... and for Disclosure to occur. I believe those that refuse to wake up do not want to see the truth of their slavery. As long as there is gas in their tank and cable on their TV they are cool.

    We are reaching critical mass though where that choice will not be there and they will be forced to confront that truth. They will be pissed at the TRUTH and even MORE so at who delivers them that truth.

    I would love to hear from others on anything they know/have heard on Technically Advanced Ancient/Current Breakaway Civilizations... This is not covered anywhere hardly. It is something I have heard of for some time but nothing from the UFO community.

    U.S. Has 8 Cigar Shaped UFOs In Space Fleet Used For “Solar Warden,” Program To Protect Solar System - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-Solar-System

    Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related? - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ystems-Related

    Wassup in Russia? PM talk of Aliens, Financial Fraud & Alien Documentaries, Sorcha Faal Dis-info, Meteors... - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nfo-Meteors...




    J. P. Farrell, I am not that familiar with his work on this topic. There is a lot of info to go through. I thought I would post the link and go through it as I have time and allow you too and post what you think... Look forward to it.



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    http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hid...ay-empire-0612

    The Hidden Breakaway Empire

    By Steve Erdmann - 1 day 22 hours ago

    “Our common defense against these predatory ET types is limited but growing”, says Ed Komarek, speaking about his research on extraterrestrials in UFO Exploiters and the New World Disorder, “Air Forces around the world in the 1950s were estimated to be losing an aircraft a day trying to intercept UFOs, and I suspect that this prompted Five Star General MacArthur, who built extensive UFO/ET files in the 1940’s, to state in 1955 that, ‘the next war will be interplanetary war. The nations must someday make a common front against attacks by people from other planets.’ Fortunately, this dire prediction has not yet come to pass.”

    (UFOs, Exopolitics and the New World Disorder, Ed Komarek. Shoestring Publishing, 3301 Highway 93 South, Cairo, Georgia. 39828. edkomarek@yahoo.com,
    Exopolitics. Blogspot.com/2012, 372 pages. $16.00.)



    For more information or to order Ed's book simply click on the title: UFO's Exopolitics and the New World Disorder

    HIGHLY AUTOCRATIC

    Komarek hypothesizes that two races of ETs are involved: the Greys and a “degenerate faction” of Sitchen’s Anunnaki called “fallen angels”. He summarizes that the “Global Elite” is already attached and this “highly autocratic earth-human society” and are nefariously directing affairs.
    The New World Disorder can hide behind questionable images such as faked radar returns, and as elaborate as “Reptilian” appearances to chameleon “amphibian” Aquatic gods. Such highly bizarre claims purportedly avail themselves to lie-detector tests (Page 46).

    QUESTIONS

    There are a lot of questions an objective investigator will ask, such as: What happened to the “pencil slate” the UFO witness kept from a 1955 UFO episode (Page 71)? How can the governments of the world sustain a Secret Space Fleet with no possibility of an average citizen breaking The Iron Curtain of Secrecy (Page 121)? It is not surprising that Komarek did not find much skepticism on the Internet about Luca Scantamburlo’s crashed spaceship and aliens on the moon, because the vast Internet audience is bent on “believing”, not skepticism (Page 123). When you enter Komarek’s world, things always seem logical, but accompanying “hard-boiled” facts do not necessarily follow.

    MISSING PLANES

    By the end of the 1950s, says the author, numerous “bases” had been established for liaisons with ETs. Nellis AFB houses Nordic, Grey and Tall-White ETs. “Only MJ 12 knew the whole story,” says Komarek. The Germans were privy to the first UFO crashes in 1936. Komarek quotes General Benjamin Chidlaw, who says in 1953: “We have stacks of reports of flying saucers. We take them very seriously, when you consider we have lost many men and planes trying to intercept them!”
    Former Air Force Intelligence Officer Leonard Stringfeld is told that they were losing about a plane a day from UFO encounters (Page 80).

    TOYS AND MOLECULAR COHESION

    The late Dr. Olavo T. Fontes from Brazil reported in a February 27, 1958 letter that American Intelligence officials spoke with him and told him that worldly governments “have absolute proof” of alien crafts, and that six known crashes had taken place with “little men” of about 46-inches. Propulsion was “rotating and oscillating high voltage electro-magnetic fields”. Fontes was told that UFOnauts could be very hostile and tend to treat us as “toys” (Page 83). They have an “ultrasonic beam” that disrupts the molecular cohesion of objects and can freely interfere with all kinds of apparatus.

    ULTIMATE CONTROL

    The goal of perturbing UFOnauts, says Fontes, is control, first with “friendly interference”, but followed by total war and police action, if you fail to cooperate; even the President of the U.S “is not informed of the whole truth” (Page 84). Uncontrolled panic could very well ensue.

    To control the situation, governments have resorted to strict censorship and top secret orders for fear of pandemic panic and chaos. Ridicule, death and imprisonment are sometimes used. He quotes a high-ranking military official: “We are not interested in the so-called ‘Inalienable Rights’ of the people. Right or wrong we – the military – are going to stop us.” (Page 85).

    ARTILLARY SHELLS VAPORIZED

    Ed Komarek presents case after case of UFO lore that he feels the adequate testimony to bolster these facts, such as the Gene Ruegg recording of a phantom jet being abducted in July, 1968 (Pages 86-88).

    Komarek quotes from UFO Crash at Aztec about Baron Nicholas E. Von Poppen’s visit to Los Alamos in November, 1942 to see a retrieved ET craft with 5-foot creatures: “…white…very pale skin, as if they had come from a cold world with little air.” (Page 90).

    The physicist Dr. Hans Larson Loberg’s crashed Norwegian UFO was constructed of material that “resisted 15,000-fahrenheit without melting.”
    Similar to other reported UFO incidents, competent artillery shells fired at a May 23-24, 1974 UFO at the Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany, “…(were) as if the shells were being absorbed or being vaporized at the explosion by some sort of force field.” There was no radar return on the launch control console. A Chapparral Antiaircraft Missile was launched and exploded on the UFO. The UFO descended to the valley floor.

    NEVER TO TALK

    This incident is important because of the variety of military personnel involved as well as the heavy military five-power, the unknown “pod” attached to the C141 aircraft, and lastly the mysterious disembarking “M-16-carrying crew” the pilot of the C141 left at the Wright Patterson Air Force base. Major Mike Andrews was told that this affair was “a highly classified mission and they were never to talk about it to anyone.” (Pages 98-104).

    HUMAN MUTILATION

    Chapter Two gets into some rather gruesome and horrifying tales of “human mutilation” by UFOnauts. We’ve heard the suspicions about cattle mutilations, but to have a human mutilation described in detail could be a little worrisome for most readers. This allegedly happened at the White Sands Missile Test Range in New Mexico in March, 1956. The author also gives us the tale of an abduction of a 13-year-old-boy in October, 1953.

    A Three Stat General told investigator Timothy Beckley in July, 1989: “The aliens take about 2,200 children a year from the United States and other countries.
    The vision that comes to Erdmann’s mind when reading this allegation is his personal after-midnight UFO encounter in 1959 or 1960 as he walked home following a late movie: the UFO briefly hovered, glowing above and near him, changed its shape and shot upwards. He wonders, at times, what if…..?

    BREAKAWAY CIVILIZATION

    “I am trying to provide the reader with evidence that supports the idea that much of this Breakaway Civilization’s advanced technology and its Super-Secret Space Program,” says Kotare, “is based upon reverse engineering extraterrestrial technologies.”

    Much of this is done through Technology Transfer Programs (TTPs) negotiated between ET groups and human governments. Komarek refers to this alliance as the Alien Resource Cartel. “…a very important part of the overall globalist’s network of criminal enterprises.” Bill Hose, Aerospace Engineer, commented: “The organization is extremely hierarchal, especially given the needs of compartmentalization. A worker reports only to his immediate supervisor, and direct contacts with members of other departments and higher management are rare.” (Pages 114-115).

    SECRET SPACE PROGRAM

    Komarek speaks of a Secret Space Program based on electromagnetic and electrogravitic-exotic-technologies; corporations that are major players in the Military-Industrial-Complex. He recited the legend: “Many researchers believe that this Secret Space Program and Space Fleet are capable of not only rapid travel about our solar system with bases on the moon and mars, but deep-space-capable as well, as was indicated by Ben Rich.”

    Ben Rich supposedly broached remarks in response to how UFOs fly, he remarked: “How does ESP work?” Lockheed Skunk works Engineer USAF and CIA Contractor Don Phillips added: “The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft we captured here. I didn’t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly knew some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.”

    SWORN AN OATH

    Solar Warden, says Komarek, is the Code Word for our Hidden Space Fleet. “We have visited all the planets in our solar system, at a distance of course,” says Open Minds Forum, “except mercury….these ships contain personnel from many countries and have sworn an oath to the World Government also, known as the Bilderbergers: the technology came from back-engineering alien-disc wreckage and at times with alien assistance.” (Page 120).

    “All this material shows that NASA and the military never really ended manned explorations as claimed,” Says Komarek, “but continued covert activities in space and on other planetary bodies.”

    A Luca Scantamborlo’s story about the triangular ET craft, a mother ship, and an alien base on the backside of the moon is what can be described as a ‘jaw-buster’, so-to-speak, but ‘proving’ it will be a ‘brain-buster’, however. This mission allegedly took place in 1976, consisting of three American astronauts, who trained four-years for the retrieval mission. If anything, at present, it is just a questionable claim looking for a ‘home’ called proof.


    MIND CONTROL DEBRIEFING

    An episode is related about soldiers in 1971, Thailand who interacted with as many as 21 humanoid creatures near their craft and take off. During the customary “debriefing” the soldiers were put through “a combination of drugs and hypnosis” as a means to distort, substitute and rearrange their memories of their UFO case. A question arises: do governments use this ‘method’ of Mind Control regularly?

    THE FIRM

    Peter A. Bostrom learns from the Special Forces Team that the Super-Secret organization was referred to as “The Firm” (Page 138). “Whatever they did, it altered our memories – affected it with permanence,” says the officer, now a Lieutenant Colonel, “but there is no such thing as a total block. Those things come in surges.”

    Komarek believes the Breakaway Society is on verge of Technical Singularity, including such things as rewriting of our genome and superpowers from copying ET contact, “…global rulers are allowing scientific and technological knowledge from extraterrestrial contact to covertly leak out into the public domain for own benefit…(but not) weaken their hold on power”.

    CORPORATE CARTEL

    Komarek renders a classical hierarchical belief that I’ve exposed before, as seen in all sentient beings (Page 19): “The slave master only allows the slave knowledge to do his or her job and no more, because to know more would be to invite rebellion. This master-slave concept of need to know has been incorporated into modern-day national security Top Secret classification systems….” The author reminds us that this “national military and business interest” was called by Dwight D. Eisenhower as the Military Industrial Complex, or also called the Corporate Cartel, the Alien Resource Cartel, and the Special Access Programs (SAPs).

    Richard reveals that the center of the complex was “….not even DOP personnel, but rather private contractors, mainly attorneys.” (Page 174). He declares that ‘American multiple-national-corporation’, or also called the “Corporate Cartel,” also called The Alien Resource Cartel, “InterEuropean Companies” from Britain, Canada, and France, Germany and Australia.

    Komarek mentions Baron Jesco Von Putthamer, a high ranking Nazi official that came to America through Operation Paperclip, a Nazi operation with close ties to Bush and Ford families. Baron Von Putthamer entered America in 1968 and worked at many major aerospace corporations, showing Cartel influence.
    (Continued expose’ of the monstrous Alternate Civilization that controls the Globe is continued in Part II) Continues June 16, 2013!

    I will post that when it comes out...
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    Hey buddy.
    The link to the video 'Richard Dolan - Secret Space Program' is no longer working.

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    Great stuff GoodeTXSG, you have posted a mass of info, Gratz!

    A book I read and have done a project on is:
    'Flying Saucers and the STRAIGHT-LINE Mystery'
    By the great Aime Michel. Criterion Books.

    Many very interesting sightings, statements concerning Mother-Ships, Cigars. Their activities (Dropping off, picking up small scout ships and balls) are well documented for the French UFO Wave of 1954.
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
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    Joseph P. Farrell's entire series of books, IMO and IME, are essential reading on these subjects.
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    if you want earth history going way back I'm talking at least 300,000 years , look into James Horak ... also the 22,000 pages of contact notes for over 60 yrs between billy meier and the plejaren they go back even further... earth has had six extinctions, if we have another it will be the last ... but for sure the earth will lose it's atmosphere, all life will cease and our sun will become a dead star, just like the one on the edge of our universe called the eye of God ...the people of ancient Lyra had high tech wars, split in two groups , some came here, some went to the pleadies... wars continued , some on earth returned to the pleadies... while here, they built cites, genetically altered man, created atlantis, mu, and mixed man and animals ...the plejaren feel responsible for us, they have watched over us until 1995 , the giza inteligences (ET) were captured and deported, they were using religion to mislead mankind , their ship under the great pyramid and all traces of their interference removed ... the plejaren and members of their federation have kept warmongering space travelers in check ... there was others that came from orion , and vega systems but thats the jist of it in a nutshell , earth's real history... the plejaren are millions of years ahead of us in technology ...
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    if you want earth history going way back I'm talking at least 300,000 years , look into James Horak ... also the 22,000 pages of contact notes for over 60 yrs between billy meier and the plejaren they go back even further... earth has had six extinctions, if we have another it will be the last ... but for sure the earth will lose it's atmosphere, all life will cease and our sun will become a dead star, just like the one on the edge of our universe called the eye of God ...the people of ancient Lyra had high tech wars, split in two groups , some came here, some went to the pleadies... wars continued , some on earth returned to the pleadies... while here, they built cites, genetically altered man, created atlantis, mu, and mixed man and animals ...the plejaren feel responsible for us, they have watched over us until 1995 , the giza inteligences (ET) were captured and deported, they were using religion to mislead mankind , their ship under the great pyramid and all traces of their interference removed ... the plejaren and members of their federation have kept warmongering space travelers in check ... there was others that came from orion , and vega systems but thats the jist of it in a nutshell , earth's real history... the plejaren are millions of years ahead of us in technology ...
    Thank you,
    Would LOVE some links! Please provide...



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    If you think the idea of breakaway civilizations is legit, you should check out this information here
    Are National Parks A Cover For Underground Alien Bases?
    I started this thread because of the information outlined by David Paulides and his book missing 411
    David Paulides outlines what appears to be a cover up in terms of people/children going missing in our national parks and what appears to be a cover up.
    When asked by George Knapp in a C2C interview why he thinks so many people are being abducted, Paulides states that he finds it remarkable that most of the children who go missing are preadolescent children, children Paulides remarks who are at the perfect age in terms of being self sufficient and needing little care and being the most pliable in terms of where they are at to be taught and educated.

    When one is confronted with this information it lends one to believe that atleast some of these instances could be cases of young girls and boys being taken as recruits to replenish dwindling population supplies in such places.

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    if you want earth history going way back I'm talking at least 300,000 years , look into James Horak ... also the 22,000 pages of contact notes for over 60 yrs between billy meier and the plejaren they go back even further... earth has had six extinctions, if we have another it will be the last ... but for sure the earth will lose it's atmosphere, all life will cease and our sun will become a dead star, just like the one on the edge of our universe called the eye of God ...the people of ancient Lyra had high tech wars, split in two groups , some came here, some went to the pleadies... wars continued , some on earth returned to the pleadies... while here, they built cites, genetically altered man, created atlantis, mu, and mixed man and animals ...the plejaren feel responsible for us, they have watched over us until 1995 , the giza inteligences (ET) were captured and deported, they were using religion to mislead mankind , their ship under the great pyramid and all traces of their interference removed ... the plejaren and members of their federation have kept warmongering space travelers in check ... there was others that came from orion , and vega systems but thats the jist of it in a nutshell , earth's real history... the plejaren are millions of years ahead of us in technology ...
    I think the information you provide begs another question.
    If in fact there have been "extinction" level events that have taken place while humans have been on the planet, did any of those past human civilizations live on in a pocket civilization of sorts in an underground city?

    I think the answer to this is yes.
    There appear to be several instances of this in Brazil, and Mt. Shasta comes to mind as well.
    I think there should be an understanding that yes, the world is currently producing break-away civilizations which live underground, but I think the world has done this at previous times as well.

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    http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hid...e-part-ii-0616

    The Hidden Breakaway Empire Part II

    By Steve Erdmann - 19 hours 14 min ago



    (UFOs, Exopolitics and the New World Disorder, Ed Kenmare. Shoestring Publishing, 3301 Highway 93 South, Cairo, Georgia. 39828.
    Exopolitics. Blogspot.com/2012, 372 pages. $16.00.)
    We continue in our review of Komarek’s assessment on the world-wide Cabal and its hidden control.
    If you missed Part I of this series click here: http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hid...ay-empire-0612

    CLEANSED DOSSIERS

    Through Reinhard Gehlen’s Nazi Intelligence Network/ MK-Ultra/ Artichoke and Operation Midnight Climax emerged. One hundred and thirty Paperclip dossiers had been cleansed. The CIA’s Dulles, says Komarek, kept things secret from the President. It is a Shadow Government. Dulles wanted no U.S President privy to UFO secrets. “The global criminality and fraud is just staggering and very difficult for people to wrap their minds around,” says Komarek.
    Extraterrestrial liaisons included exchanges with Tall White Creatures and Nellis AFB engineers, says Komarek (Page 193.)

    UNDERWORLD

    One wonders, once again, about any Mafia/government connections as we are warned about “underground tunnels” between Las Vegas casinos and Nellis AFB (Pages 195-196).

    TALL WHITES AND JESUS

    Tall Whites programmed “their involvement (that) included fashioning the consciousness of Jesus and sending him to live among earthlings to point to a better way of understanding life and to love.” (Page 199): A rather disruptive conjecture, to say the least. This history won’t be easily accessed or digested, if true. Komarek, however, says: “For them we seem to be a way-station-pet-stop.”: Hopefully not, if Jesus is one of them.

    TITANIUM

    The use of Titanium in space craft is of special interest to Steve Erdmann, as one of the major industries in Carondelet, Missouri is the Titanium plant at the foot of Horn, Weiss and Hoffmeister streets near the Mississippi River in St. Louis. Sometime near 2000, Erdmann and a few other witnesses, spotted a UFO hover over the plant (said to be a police helicopter) flashing a blinding, piercing light (similar to the penetrating light in Spielberg’s Close Encounters film that blinds the Roy Near character) and eventually flew over Maplewood and disappear.
    Experiments with Titanium, based on alleged ET UFO crashes, has led to the creation of “Nitinol” or ‘memory metal’. Hidden further in this tale is mention of Project Horizon – which we have already been to the moon and have “out-posts” there in the 1960s. “It would appear that the Globalists have been building their secret empire,” says Komarek, “not only on earth but in space as well.”
    One is reminded of the billionaire S.R. Hadden character in Carl Sagan’s 1985 novel (and later the movie) Contact..

    EISENHOWER AND ALIENS

    Komarek alludes to a space age Higher Morality that includes mixing with various ET cultures: “The galactic human collective” with some difficulty in “the larger playing field” (Page 209). According to inside information given by Jeff Adams, that includes eleven major and 124 minor alien races in our galaxy.
    Komarek highlights the Gerald Lights April 16, 1954 letter on the Muroc Edwards AFB/ President Eisenhower meeting with Aliens.

    TUNNELING

    An interesting aspect to the Global Agenda is Komarek’s appraisals of the various “tunneling devices” patented by the government: Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machines (NSTMs). “This vast system of excavated underground tunnels, bases, even cities,” says Komarek, “that are part of the secret infrastructure of the Breakaway Society.”
    Nobel-prize-winner, Dr. Karry Mullis, is quoted about his Whitley Strieber-type alien contact in April, 1983 in Northern California: “But I don’t deny what happened. It’s what science calls anecdotal, because it happened in a way that you can’t reproduce. But it happened.” (Page 221): The bane of Ufology

    PROJECT PRESERVE DESTINY

    Komarek refers to the string of stories in his book as coherent substantiation, “while not so significant individually, when put together methodically and in context make a very compelling case for the classified Breakaway Civilization.” (Page 226) However, if evidence will forever solely consist of tattered bits and pieces of homogenized narrative with no public or official disclosure, we can only wonder about their reality beyond imagination; or, at least, Dan Sherman’s imagination
    Komarerk introduces us to Project Preserve Destiny, or the Genetic Management Project, started in 1960 (the year of Erdmann’s UFO sighting) to enable human offspring to communicate with Grey EBEs.
    The conversations with Greys Spock and Bones sound far too Galacticese. Komarek, however, concedes on page 234 that “….it’s almost a hopeless task to find the signal in the noise. What the reader is seeing is a benefit of my life’s work in a nut shell….”
    Interestingly, Komarek warns that researchers can become possessed by false claims: “…they will be duped and defrauded by a noisy swarm of false contactees and whistle-blowers and their deluded promoters seeking attention.” (Page 253). “Some cases may be true, but a lot of it is pure BS, and it’s only going to get worse…”
    The chronologies of the early 1954 UFO/humanoid cases prove intriguing, reminiscent of the late Aime Michel: 1954 certainly seemed to be a significant year. Humanoid reports seemed a conglomeration of diversity and similarity, often reflecting major productions. Three motion pictures of that period were (1951) The Day Earth Stood Still and (1953) War of the Worlds; in 1953 there was the movie Phantom from Space.

    TALL BLONDE FEMALE

    Komarek quotes Major George Filer on his belief that the early Sumerians had ET contact and that the late Carl Sagan shared this belief: “Tell the story of extraterrestrial visitors and how they brought civilization to Sumer. They explain the visitors taught them to build ziggurats.”

    Komarek believes DNA studies lend to ancient sacred texts that tell us that “fair” extraterrestrials mated with daughters of men (Genesis 6) (Page 272). The case of “Mr. Khoury”, an abductee who retained alien pubic hair (and passed a polygraph test), seems intriguing: the hair indicated it came from a tall blonde female whose skin didn’t need color as a form of protection from the sun, referred to in the Orient as ”sun gods”.

    Michael Hill quotes the late Gordon Ceighton as he alludes to an extraterrestrial message: “One of you says, ‘I saw a torpedo-shaped object.’ Others report, ‘disc-like objects’, some of you say ‘spherical objects’, or ’platter-like objects’,” says a UFOnaut, “you are reporting correctly and accurately what you saw, and in most cases, you are describing the same sort of vehicle.”

    SIMILAR TO OURSELVES

    Tall-blond-human-descendants appear to have a link from ET, and there may be at least several species of extraterrestrial humans, some very similar to our selves, says Komarek. Some are biological robots.

    Again, Komarek warns his readers to avoid “irrational disinformation – indexed delusionary beliefs” about ET stories (Page 281). One comment, however, about “magnesium UFO fragments” might be questioned as the UFO tale comes to light in OCRUGEIRO Magazine on May 14, 1958, shortly after Olavo T. Fonte’s story about magnesium UFO fragments in Ubatuba, Brazil in 1957. Komarek said that he constantly has to fine-tune his ‘spam filter’. This may be one case were some spam may have slipped through.

    MULTIUNIVERSES

    The author says “quantum entanglement” explains a lot of the happenings in UFOlogy. He speaks in terms of a “human collective”, sharing “multi-universes” “beyond what we can possibly imagine” (Page 293).

    The writer adds an interesting chapter 9 on possible ET battles, going back to Scriptures and various Hindu texts all the way to the present. With so much warfare (and the descriptions seem to be accurate) one wonders why there are not more remains of warfare around the globe, despite military retrieval.
    Chapter 10 delves into Trickster Agents, also known as “Jinns”. “The scariest thing our American Intel tried….to get in contact with Jinns to learn the secret of ‘portal’ openings and trans dimensional transportation.” Muslims refer to these as a “third race that is much older than the human race…existing before mankind…” Also called Djinn, they are “spying on us by pressing against the membrane that divides their world from ours.” Some are “very dangerous and uncontrollable”, and some “can choose between good and evil.”

    RICHARD SHAVER

    These descriptions blend with other legends, such as Richard Shaver’s and Ray Palmer’s Hidden World of the subterranean Tero and Dero. In Persian legend, says Komarek, Djinn lived on earth at one time and possessed “powerful…..technology” greater than modern technology. Powerful Djinn who refused to be ruled by Allah became imprisoned in bottles, rings and “great caves” around the planet. The Majisal-al Jinn of Oman is chronologed in The Vengeful Djinn.
    Various business and government consortiums have experimented with such “portals” as a means towards “teleportation”, a case in point was the Utah Skinwalker Ranch and Bigelow’s NIDS.

    “It’s obvious to me that modern psychology and psychiatric practice has a long way to go,” says Komarek, “in understanding the human condition and the nature of the really big picture…..” (Page 319). Komarek clearly believes there are “psychic predators and parasites that inhabit our bodies.”

    HOMOGENOUS PAWN SHOP

    A discussion about Globalists entails David Rockefeller, the Bilderberg Group, MJ 12, General Electric, the Rothschild’s, and expands into the warring factions, even amongst the globalists. Komarek quotes former Canadian Minister of National Defense Paul Hellyer: “The world financial system is a total fraud. It is a gargantuan Ponzi scheme, no better than one Bernie Madoff used to swindle his friends and neighbors, and thousands of time worse…over countless generations…persuaded generation after generation….to provide legislative protection for their larceny..”

    Komarek describes how banks “have turned the homogeneous pawn shop….a world system where all the money is created as debt is a perpetual disaster in the making. It is like a giant balloon that the banks pump full of debt….any monetary system based non debt creation is totally insane.”

    FEDERAL RESERVE ACT

    The Federal Reserve Bank received sole custody of Congress’ Sovereign Constitutional Right - the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Komarek quotes Baron Stamp: “But if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” Komarek adds: “It’s all part of the boom-bust cycle inherent in our infinitely silly monetary system…..the same can be said about Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany and myriad countries that are really puppets of the International Financial System. In each case the real interests of citizen voters is subjugated to the demands of international finance.”

    THE REALLY BIG PICTURE

    The author looks ahead to a time where hidden facts forge together with technology (Page 356): “….the deepest mysteries of the universe are found in the evolving field of consciousness investigation and research and we have yet to even scratch the surface of the really big picture.”
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    Cigar Flyby? just found this, I haven't seen it before:


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    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
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    Quote Posted by goodetxsg (here)
    hello,
    many of you have seen my threads on the "secret space programs" and the "break away civilizations" that exist along with the et/ed visitors/watchers that frequent our busy little solar system. I have also written extensively on the "secret space program" and the wars etc... So, some of you are not shocked to see me post here. I posted on multiple space programs and multiple break away civilizations for a reason...
    I say civilizations because as i understand it there have been several human (for the most part.) earth civilizations that have risen and fallen who have had their own "break away civilizations" that have moved below ground, further out into our solar system and beyond thousands of years ago that still play a part in what goes on "at home".

    The info in gordon duff's interview and article posted on this new thread shocked me. The information if fairly untainted and jives extremely well with my "sources" as well as to the extent i had involvement that i am able to recall, no "total recall" yet.

    Thread: Gordon duff discloses reality of ufo's & aliens // secret space war iv: Terra forming
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ar-iv-terra...

    vt: Secret space war iv: Terra forming: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07...terra-forming/



    we all know that there is a great awakening going on. We are seeing all of these scandals and have been waiting very impatiently for the "cabal" or slave masters to be exposed and arrested... And for disclosure to occur. I believe those that refuse to wake up do not want to see the truth of their slavery. As long as there is gas in their tank and cable on their tv they are cool.

    We are reaching critical mass though where that choice will not be there and they will be forced to confront that truth. They will be pissed at the truth and even more so at who delivers them that truth. I have started these 4 threads using speculation and some misdirection to protect sources. The fact is that there is massive war going on... Wars in the stars, wars over our minds, wars over economic systems, wars over access to technologies and the biggest war to keep you out of the war!

    U.s. Has 8 cigar shaped ufos in space fleet used for “solar warden,” program to protect solar system - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-solar-system

    advanced breakaway civilizations, ets/eds, sol system wars & awakening from our slavery - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...om-our-slavery

    speculating: Global meteors, space based weapons & current struggle for financial systems related? - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ystems-related

    wassup in russia? Pm talk of aliens, financial fraud & alien documentaries, sorcha faal dis-info, meteors... - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nfo-meteors...




    J. P. Farrell, i am not that familiar with his work on this topic. There is a lot of info to go through. I thought i would post the link and go through it as i have time and allow you too and post what you think... Look forward to it.



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    http://www.ufodigest.com/article/hid...ay-empire-0612

    the hidden breakaway empire

    by steve erdmann - 1 day 22 hours ago

    “our common defense against these predatory et types is limited but growing”, says ed komarek, speaking about his research on extraterrestrials in ufo exploiters and the new world disorder, “air forces around the world in the 1950s were estimated to be losing an aircraft a day trying to intercept ufos, and i suspect that this prompted five star general macarthur, who built extensive ufo/et files in the 1940’s, to state in 1955 that, ‘the next war will be interplanetary war. The nations must someday make a common front against attacks by people from other planets.’ fortunately, this dire prediction has not yet come to pass.”

    (ufos, exopolitics and the new world disorder, ed komarek. Shoestring publishing, 3301 highway 93 south, cairo, georgia. 39828. edkomarek@yahoo.com,
    exopolitics. Blogspot.com/2012, 372 pages. $16.00.)



    for more information or to order ed's book simply click on the title: Ufo's exopolitics and the new world disorder
    highly autocratic
    komarek hypothesizes that two races of ets are involved: The greys and a “degenerate faction” of sitchen’s anunnaki called “fallen angels”. He summarizes that the “global elite” is already attached and this “highly autocratic earth-human society” and are nefariously directing affairs.
    The new world disorder can hide behind questionable images such as faked radar returns, and as elaborate as “reptilian” appearances to chameleon “amphibian” aquatic gods. Such highly bizarre claims purportedly avail themselves to lie-detector tests (page 46).
    Questions
    there are a lot of questions an objective investigator will ask, such as: What happened to the “pencil slate” the ufo witness kept from a 1955 ufo episode (page 71)? How can the governments of the world sustain a secret space fleet with no possibility of an average citizen breaking the iron curtain of secrecy (page 121)? It is not surprising that komarek did not find much skepticism on the internet about luca scantamburlo’s crashed spaceship and aliens on the moon, because the vast internet audience is bent on “believing”, not skepticism (page 123). When you enter komarek’s world, things always seem logical, but accompanying “hard-boiled” facts do not necessarily follow.
    Missing planes
    by the end of the 1950s, says the author, numerous “bases” had been established for liaisons with ets. Nellis afb houses nordic, grey and tall-white ets. “only mj 12 knew the whole story,” says komarek. The germans were privy to the first ufo crashes in 1936. Komarek quotes general benjamin chidlaw, who says in 1953: “we have stacks of reports of flying saucers. We take them very seriously, when you consider we have lost many men and planes trying to intercept them!”
    former air force intelligence officer leonard stringfeld is told that they were losing about a plane a day from ufo encounters (page 80).
    Toys and molecular cohesion
    the late dr. Olavo t. Fontes from brazil reported in a february 27, 1958 letter that american intelligence officials spoke with him and told him that worldly governments “have absolute proof” of alien crafts, and that six known crashes had taken place with “little men” of about 46-inches. Propulsion was “rotating and oscillating high voltage electro-magnetic fields”. Fontes was told that ufonauts could be very hostile and tend to treat us as “toys” (page 83). They have an “ultrasonic beam” that disrupts the molecular cohesion of objects and can freely interfere with all kinds of apparatus.
    Ultimate control
    the goal of perturbing ufonauts, says fontes, is control, first with “friendly interference”, but followed by total war and police action, if you fail to cooperate; even the president of the u.s “is not informed of the whole truth” (page 84). Uncontrolled panic could very well ensue.
    To control the situation, governments have resorted to strict censorship and top secret orders for fear of pandemic panic and chaos. Ridicule, death and imprisonment are sometimes used. He quotes a high-ranking military official: “we are not interested in the so-called ‘inalienable rights’ of the people. Right or wrong we – the military – are going to stop us.” (page 85).
    Artillary shells vaporized
    ed komarek presents case after case of ufo lore that he feels the adequate testimony to bolster these facts, such as the gene ruegg recording of a phantom jet being abducted in july, 1968 (pages 86-88).
    Komarek quotes from ufo crash at aztec about baron nicholas e. Von poppen’s visit to los alamos in november, 1942 to see a retrieved et craft with 5-foot creatures: “…white…very pale skin, as if they had come from a cold world with little air.” (page 90).
    The physicist dr. Hans larson loberg’s crashed norwegian ufo was constructed of material that “resisted 15,000-fahrenheit without melting.”
    similar to other reported ufo incidents, competent artillery shells fired at a may 23-24, 1974 ufo at the ramstein air force base in germany, “…(were) as if the shells were being absorbed or being vaporized at the explosion by some sort of force field.” there was no radar return on the launch control console. A chapparral antiaircraft missile was launched and exploded on the ufo. The ufo descended to the valley floor.
    Never to talk
    this incident is important because of the variety of military personnel involved as well as the heavy military five-power, the unknown “pod” attached to the c141 aircraft, and lastly the mysterious disembarking “m-16-carrying crew” the pilot of the c141 left at the wright patterson air force base. Major mike andrews was told that this affair was “a highly classified mission and they were never to talk about it to anyone.” (pages 98-104).
    Human mutilation
    chapter two gets into some rather gruesome and horrifying tales of “human mutilation” by ufonauts. We’ve heard the suspicions about cattle mutilations, but to have a human mutilation described in detail could be a little worrisome for most readers. This allegedly happened at the white sands missile test range in new mexico in march, 1956. The author also gives us the tale of an abduction of a 13-year-old-boy in october, 1953.
    A three stat general told investigator timothy beckley in july, 1989: “the aliens take about 2,200 children a year from the united states and other countries.
    The vision that comes to erdmann’s mind when reading this allegation is his personal after-midnight ufo encounter in 1959 or 1960 as he walked home following a late movie: The ufo briefly hovered, glowing above and near him, changed its shape and shot upwards. He wonders, at times, what if…..?

    breakaway civilization
    “i am trying to provide the reader with evidence that supports the idea that much of this breakaway civilization’s advanced technology and its super-secret space program,” says kotare, “is based upon reverse engineering extraterrestrial technologies.”
    much of this is done through technology transfer programs (ttps) negotiated between et groups and human governments. Komarek refers to this alliance as the alien resource cartel. “…a very important part of the overall globalist’s network of criminal enterprises.” bill hose, aerospace engineer, commented: “the organization is extremely hierarchal, especially given the needs of compartmentalization. A worker reports only to his immediate supervisor, and direct contacts with members of other departments and higher management are rare.” (pages 114-115).
    Secret space program
    komarek speaks of a secret space program based on electromagnetic and electrogravitic-exotic-technologies; corporations that are major players in the military-industrial-complex. He recited the legend: “many researchers believe that this secret space program and space fleet are capable of not only rapid travel about our solar system with bases on the moon and mars, but deep-space-capable as well, as was indicated by ben rich.”

    ben rich supposedly broached remarks in response to how ufos fly, he remarked: “how does esp work?” lockheed skunk works engineer usaf and cia contractor don phillips added: “the knowledge i have of these technologies came from the craft we captured here. I didn’t see the craft, nor did i see the bodies, but i certainly knew some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.”
    sworn an oath
    solar warden, says komarek, is the code word for our hidden space fleet. “we have visited all the planets in our solar system, at a distance of course,” says open minds forum, “except mercury….these ships contain personnel from many countries and have sworn an oath to the world government also, known as the bilderbergers: The technology came from back-engineering alien-disc wreckage and at times with alien assistance.” (page 120).
    “all this material shows that nasa and the military never really ended manned explorations as claimed,” says komarek, “but continued covert activities in space and on other planetary bodies.”
    a luca scantamborlo’s story about the triangular et craft, a mother ship, and an alien base on the backside of the moon is what can be described as a ‘jaw-buster’, so-to-speak, but ‘proving’ it will be a ‘brain-buster’, however. This mission allegedly took place in 1976, consisting of three american astronauts, who trained four-years for the retrieval mission. If anything, at present, it is just a questionable claim looking for a ‘home’ called proof.


    mind control debriefing
    an episode is related about soldiers in 1971, thailand who interacted with as many as 21 humanoid creatures near their craft and take off. During the customary “debriefing” the soldiers were put through “a combination of drugs and hypnosis” as a means to distort, substitute and rearrange their memories of their ufo case. A question arises: Do governments use this ‘method’ of mind control regularly?
    The firm
    peter a. Bostrom learns from the special forces team that the super-secret organization was referred to as “the firm” (page 138). “whatever they did, it altered our memories – affected it with permanence,” says the officer, now a lieutenant colonel, “but there is no such thing as a total block. Those things come in surges.”
    komarek believes the breakaway society is on verge of technical singularity, including such things as rewriting of our genome and superpowers from copying et contact, “…global rulers are allowing scientific and technological knowledge from extraterrestrial contact to covertly leak out into the public domain for own benefit…(but not) weaken their hold on power”.
    Corporate cartel
    komarek renders a classical hierarchical belief that i’ve exposed before, as seen in all sentient beings (page 19): “the slave master only allows the slave knowledge to do his or her job and no more, because to know more would be to invite rebellion. This master-slave concept of need to know has been incorporated into modern-day national security top secret classification systems….” the author reminds us that this “national military and business interest” was called by dwight d. Eisenhower as the military industrial complex, or also called the corporate cartel, the alien resource cartel, and the special access programs (saps).
    Richard reveals that the center of the complex was “….not even dop personnel, but rather private contractors, mainly attorneys.” (page 174). He declares that ‘american multiple-national-corporation’, or also called the “corporate cartel,” also called the alien resource cartel, “intereuropean companies” from britain, canada, and france, germany and australia.
    Komarek mentions baron jesco von putthamer, a high ranking nazi official that came to america through operation paperclip, a nazi operation with close ties to bush and ford families. Baron von putthamer entered america in 1968 and worked at many major aerospace corporations, showing cartel influence.
    (continued expose’ of the monstrous alternate civilization that controls the globe is continued in part ii) continues june 16, 2013!

    david wilcock and others are covering the financial war, other the political and spying manipulation of your minds war... This is about the space war and the various earth based and non earth based technologies being used above, within our atmosphere and deep below our feet.
    keep following my threads and other people's threads on these topics and the other topics that make up the mosaic of the big war. It is going on weather you want to wake up, weather you want to believe it or not!

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    I was at the secret space program conference in amsterdam in April 2011 and saw the presentations given by Richard Dolan, Peter Lavenda, Timothy Good, (I shook hands with him the evening before) Ed Grimsley (also had a small talk with him the evening before) and Richard C. Hoagland (I talked with a little the day of the presentation) It was a great day, very informative and great contacts with other attendees like John Kuhles (forummember ExomatrixTV)

    Richard Dolan


    Peter Lavenda


    Timothy Good


    Ed Grimsley


    Richard Hoagland (audio only) Talking about Judy Wood's work. This to me was the first time I heard of Judy Wood and this lecture made her work known to a much bigger audience. (remaining parts can be found in the youtube pages)


    and the panel discussion



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    Thanks for these videos. Much appreciated.

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    the very first video I ever saw about the secret space program was called Alternative 3 from the series Science Report.
    It was first aired in 1977 as a April fools prank, but it aired somewhere in june if i remember correctly.
    It showed a little clip of a landing on Mars with an unmanned spacecraft that appears to be antigravitational, no sand or dust is blown away during landing, but something under the surface was disturbed by its landing and moved away from it. The first record of extraterrestrial life? made in 1962 22 may !!!
    At the time it really blew me away, it completely felt true to me, a logic next step after testflights on Earth would be a flight to Mars, and I allready knew from Hoaglands UN-briefing that electrogravity was discovered or at least all reference to it in open literature disappeared in the mid 50's ( probably to keep it secret and stop people from thinking about it ) I think Alternative 3 was the start or the first mission of the secret space program.

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    So...How can we transform Mars into a habitable planet?


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    so can we find things as described in above video on the planet Mars?
    like water or even rivers?




    or Vegetation?




    A base of operation with a spaceport?



    lakes with liquid water and green areas and clouds?

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    Is this planet dead or does it have a big dessert?

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Joseph P. Farrell's entire series of books, IMO and IME, are essential reading on these subjects.
    When you read Joseph's books, he takes out to where you need to be, in order to figure out what any of the rest of this means, or is.

    You need a solid foundation to stand on, when trying to get to some stable state of knowing, in all of this. You need a good base, that has NO ephemeral aspects to it.

    Joseph provides that very beginning point and frameworks. his work is definitely not in the mundane end of things, but he does indeed provide solid connective tissue for all of it.

    Do not be presumptuous and prejudge his works. some of the books are available on Google books and good chunks of them can be read for free, so you can see what you might be getting into.

    Make the effort. You will be rewarded.

    You have to understand, Jospeh is a formally trained (Oxford) researcher. A great depth of ability to find, collate, compare, cross-link and interpret historical documents.
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    Default Re: Advanced Breakaway Civilizations, ETs/EDs, SOL System Wars & awakening from our slavery

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    Cigar Flyby? just found this, I haven't seen it before:


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    Cigar? It looks like a saucer too.


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