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    I wonder if this would be related in any way to what Dolores Cannon describes as "the new earth"?

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    This might be of use. I following a couple of independant people on FB who also monitor this information. Torsten recently provided a link to this...a bit above my head, but think it fits here re the axis wobble

    Vortex Tectonics: The Primary Factors Which Govern Earth Dynamics: http://www.michaelmandeville.com/ear...s_Equation.pdf

    Chart 104: The Spin Axis & Polar Motion 1900-1998

    (sorry cant paste it in.... on page 9 of link)

    Some excerpts.....

    Whitten was able to demonstrate that large earthquakes were much more likely on the U.S. West Coast when the wobble was at its 6.5 year maximum size. For instance, the historic Alaskan quakes of 1957 and 1964 occurred right on this schedule.....
    Any change whatsoever in the location of the spin axis changes as well the location and orientation of the equator. Even a change of one foot in the location of the spin axis requires a change IN THE
    ENTIRE SHAPE OF THE EARTH throughout the entire length of the great Longitudinal arcs. Obviously the biggest change in the shape of the Earth must occur in the tropical......

    ....
    During the past 50 years geophysicists have learned enough about the substance of the Earth and its dynamics to literally describe the Earth as behaving more like a rotating balloon filled with Jell-O than as a “rock” with a constant, fixed shape. Within this point of view, the centrifugal force of the spinning Earth is sufficient to “force” a change in the actual “ellipsoid” shape of the Earth, NOW, as opposed to later. In other words, changing the location of the spin axis is synonymous with changing the shape of the Earth. They happen simultaneously or near simultaneously. For most of the mass of the Earth, which is molten a few hundred kilometers beneath the surface, such shape shifting poses no resistance, no problem, hence it is unnoticeable and has no consequence. It is mainly the brittle crystallized outer surface which poses resistance and creates some
    “lagging”, but probably not much. The progression must move something like this:
    move the spin axis slightly, shape-shift the Earth slightly, induce just a little stress in the crystalline shell, crack it just a little, shake the rocks just a bit, scare the mammals all to hell. In other words, the more motion, the more shape shifting, the more stress, the more tectonic activity. Could the mechanism driving earthquakes, volcanoes, and plate tectonics be this simple?....



    The occurrence of earthquakes, volcanism, El Nino syndrome, global warming, and the phenomenon of plate tectonics are now explained in a new model of Earth dynamics which provides the ability to predict dangerous periods of peak earthquake activity, the onset of El Nino, and other geological phenomena.
    By : Michael Wells Mandeville
    Copyright 2000 MWM; Use of copyright to the graphs and charts in this article with attribution to MW Mandeville or MetaSyn Media is hereby released to all news media.
    Abstract

    In my opinion I think the earth is about to expand hence the earth heating up, sink holes and that start of the massive plate movement out from Portugal. I also believe that the tectonic movements have been caused by the hundreds of underground nuclear tests.....

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    Default Re: Magnetic Pole Shift Discussion

    I came across this video last night and thought I share it with you all. This guy makes a lot of sense indeed..
    Enjoy..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEZMzGp_rs

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    We are actually in the middle of an ongoing pole shift right now as I understand it.

    It's been going on for a couple of hundred years and will take about another 2-3 centuries to complete.

    As background interest, 24 years ago I was working as a flying instructor on the island of Guernsey near the UK. The runway numbering then (which indicates it's direction on the magnetic compass) was 09-27. I note that it still is today. Plus, the inbound magnetic track for the Guernsey ILS/DME approach for runway 09 is still 090 degrees.

    http://www.californiaair.co.uk/Route...IACS/ILS09.pdf

    So no pole shift there in 24 years (or rather, it hasn't shifted laterally with respect to that longitude. Maybe someone else could check for longitudes of say, 120 degrees east - that would be places like Hong Kong, Bejing and Singapore - or 120 West, such as San Fransisco).

    Pete

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    Self Check Global Warming Disinfo: A link to todays global sea ice coverage where there is nothing much of interest except a horizontal line all the way back to 1979.
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    Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm
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    Quote Posted by CD7 (here)
    Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm

    LOL ... truth is what happens magnetically will, in fact, have a dramatic effect on our brains ...

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    Quote Posted by CD7 (here)
    Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm
    No, you're quite magnetic enough as you are

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    Quote Posted by indigopete (here)
    Quote Posted by CD7 (here)
    Is it possible for me to get a magnetic head shift....? hummmmm
    No, you're quite magnetic enough as you are

    Awww thanks indigopete...we all are magnetic..


    Quote LOL ... truth is what happens magnetically will, in fact, have a dramatic effect on our brains ...
    Yes, lol thought when I pushed the send button tht it was a bit of jest with some truth to it! So true
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    Quote Posted by Fractalius (here)
    My first experience of someone talking through pole shift, was Gregg Braden. A blast from the past I know, that video with the monster mullet. Detractors spoke of his pseudo science and diagrams that backed up very little. As detractors go.

    From memory though, the base frequency of earth and the lowering gravitational field led to a halt in the spinning on the axis, and then either pole shift or rotational reversal. One of the results from this was akin to a reboot or reformat of the mind.
    This thread is about a magnetic pole shift, which is possible.

    This thread is not about a substantial physical pole shift or reversal, nor a halting or reversing of the earth's spinning, nor a substantial lowering of the gravitational field, which are not possible.

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    all one must do is watch where the sun comes up and then goes down , for about a week, and you'll know we are on a wobble and tipping over ...
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    Here is the latest pole shift information from the above people who are independantly tracking this information


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    Default Re: Magnetic Pole Shift Discussion

    My post #5224 on the Up at the Ranch thread at:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...446#post688446
    is related to this subject.
    The assertions in the video posted there (an interview with Drunvalo) contradict Paul's assertion re the possibility of a substantial lowering in the gravitational field when he wrote in his post above:
    "This thread is not about a substantial physical pole shift or reversal, nor a halting or reversing of the earth's spinning, nor a substantial lowering of the gravitational field, which are not possible."
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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    all one must do is watch where the sun comes up and then goes down , for about a week, and you'll know we are on a wobble and tipping over ...
    You're talking about a physical (axis) shift. A magnetic shift is totally different.

    The Earth itself does not change its inclination! Only the magnetic field, which is invisible and non-physical (as it were). It's like taking a simple kid's bar magnet and wobbling it around (or completely inverting it). Then imagine that bar magnet inside a spinning ball (the Earth) -- and that's the setup.



    Quote Posted by Snookie (here)
    I wonder if this would be related in any way to what Dolores Cannon describes as "the new earth"?
    No, Dolores Cannon is talking about a quite different (metaphysical) concept. A magnetic pole shift is a magnetic pole shift.

    (But inasmuch as our human bodies are all electromagnetic bio-engines, we, like the whales and the migrating birds, may be thrown off balance in various ways if there were to be sudden big changes in the earth's magnetic field.)

    ***

    Separately -- @ Todd:

    Do you mean a magnetic pole shift, or a magnetic pole reversal?

    To readers: the two are very different. The magnetic poles wander around, fairly slowly, all the time, and this is well-documented and understood. Every hiker knows this, as compass readings on topo maps need to be adjusted accordingly for prevision navigation if the map is several years old.

    Magnetic pole reversals -- which occur regularly in geological history -- usually take hundreds, or thousands, of years to complete. If the reversal happened suddenly (as in just a few years), then this might have many consequences to weather, animal and human behavior, geo-events such as earthquakes, and probably much else.
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    Actually, what witchy1 has posted is a graph of the "Chandler wobble" (not the "shift" although I imagine this data could be helpful in trying to figure out if a sudden abnormalty took place ).... it follows a cycle (the yearly circling wobble getting bigger and then getting smaller over about 14 years (7 out and 7 in)) . I have been following this for years...since I came to know about Mandeville around 2006; witchy1 also mentions and quotes his work in an earlier post. If you (anyone interested) could take the time to take a look, Mandeville did a very lengthy study of the wobble, mostly ending his research in 2007.

    http://www.michaelmandeville.com/ear...bble/index.htm

    Here's a table showing the wobble phases from 1890 to 2005:



    This is another way of graphing it:



    ..pretty messy, but it gives one the idea of how much the wobble wobbles.

    http://www.michaelmandeville.com/ear...htm#iers_xplot

    Witchy1 posted this, which is about a month behind the actual data:



    This next graph is more updated and it also has (in red) the predicted next 180-day course the scientists at this site think that the wobbble will take.


    http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/polmot/pm.html

    This next graph shows where the wobble has been in the past few years...and where the hypothetic magnetic pole is situated (not actually up to date).


    http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/earthor/polmot/pm.html

    Unfortunately, this data is not placed on top of a gobal map, so, I, personally, cannot tell where the hypothetical magnetic pole is situated geographically. Any good mappers out there that want to try getting us one? The only indications of geographic location is given by the x and y axes....

    As one might notice, we are finishing up a "minimim" end of a new cycle ( following Mandeville's research) very similar to the minimim in 2005-2006. That means that the wobble has "tightened up" it's circle and is ready to swing back out into a wider yearly circle... around what could be hypothesized as where the actual magnetic pole is.

    I hope this makes some sense and will help us reach a logical end.

    Edit add on: The wobble has my curiosity as to how it effects the seasons... but right now, that thought might be a bit off-topic. I can certainly expect it to have an effect on the jet stream.

    Edit no. 2: Mandeville wrote the book "The Coming Economic Collapse of 2006" basing his prevision on the wobble cycles and the sunspot cycles. He wasn't too far off the timeline... maybe Todd has his foot in a door, too.
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    Wow thanks morningsong... the second graph 1861-06 Earths Wobble....the wobble appears to tighten up over time? The lines all crooked and off appear to be in 1800's and as time has gone by, not as unstable, but more stable...

    Idk perhaps this is just the way the image is perceived and not whts actually happening?
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    CD7, what I would assume is that the data from the late 1800's and early 1900's is few and far between and probably not that precise...thus the wobble looks pretty unstable.

    Rather, what I see is that the wobble has, yes, "tightened up", i.e. it's amplitude (total cyclical tilt) has decreased over the years.

    I ask myself, does this mean that the wobble is actually decreasing, and will the Earth eventually stop wobbling causing an end of the precession? Or like a spinning top that is losing momentum, will it (the spinning top=the Earth) eventually fall over (causing what has been called a "physical polar shift"?
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    Apparently, a physical polar shift is not possible lol :-p

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