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    This is from a thread I posted back on Sept. 23, 2012: Egyptians in Australia
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    Also, in Arizona April 5, 1909 an edition of the Arizona Gazette recounted the discovery of a series of bizarre caves and artifacts in the Grand Canyon. The find supposedly produced Egyptian artifacts and tablets engraved with hieroglyphics. The report claimed two Smithsonian-funded archaeologists, Prof. S. A. Jordan and G.E. Kinkaid, were responsible for the find.

    But... according to a Smithsonian Institute representative when asked directly about Kincaid's claims said:
    "Well, the first thing I can tell you, before we go any further, is that no Egyptian artifacts of any kind have ever been found in North or South America. Therefore, the Smithsonian Institute has never been involved in any such excavations.”

    Of course... no record exists of Kincaid or Professor Jordan within the Smithsonian's Department of Anthropology, nor is there a paper trail at the Smithsonian detailing the artifacts gathered on the expedition.

    A lot of folks have different opinions (I for one) and according to conspiracy theorists, the Smithsonian Institute went so far as to destroy artifacts to maintain this historical viewpoint.

    Source: http://io9.com/5875252/when-the-smit...e-grand-canyon
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    Then... I found this (I'm only going to list the source and one photo because there is too many, not a real long read but a good one). According to the top post if the Smithsonian doesn't have these objects who does? Be your own judge.

    Source: https://sites.google.com/site/ancien...s-grand-canyon

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    These Gold Artifacts from Kincaid Tunnel are the only Artifacts on display in the Smithsonian Institute at Washington DC. from the Grand Canyon.

    confused...
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    Well there certainly has always been some desperate need for Americans to build Egyptian type architecture in their cities. And as a kid seeing that silly pyramid on the dollar bill made me also wonder. Though that is not related to your find.
    It is somewhat an infactuation, I would have thought that to mimmick architechture of your homeland would have resulted in far more thatched cottages and cobble.

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    This is a fun rabbit hole to play in. They led me to eventually learn there is a pyramid in Illinois barely 200 miles from the little school where I was taught only the Egyptians have pyramids. The list of them in China is awesome also, kept secret for decades. These people got around a bit.

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    Egyptians DID NOT build the pyramids.

    The Egyptian reference to the pyramids just happens to coincide with the start of new record keeping during a period referred as Yep Seti.

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    Quote Posted by Kiforall (here)
    Amazing...............
    http://www.philipcoppens.com/egyptiancanyon.html
    The Hieroglyphics

    "On all the urns, or walls over doorways, and tablets of stone which were found by the image are the mysterious hieroglyphics, the key to which the Smithsonian Institute hopes yet to discover. The engraving on the tables probably has something to do with the religion of the people. Similar hieroglyphics have been found in southern Arizona. Among the pictorial writings, only two animals are found. One is of prehistoric type.
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    Quote Posted by Fractalius (here)
    Well there certainly has always been some desperate need for Americans to build Egyptian type architecture in their cities. And as a kid seeing that silly pyramid on the dollar bill made me also wonder. Though that is not related to your find.
    It is somewhat an infactuation, I would have thought that to mimmick architechture of your homeland would have resulted in far more thatched cottages and cobble.
    I think you're losing the aim of this thread.
    The aim of this thread has to do with the Smithsonian Institute involving itself in a massive cover-up.
    The cover up is aimed at erasing evidence of advanced pre-historic civilizations that have indeed existed on this planet.
    Whatever ancient artifacts hinted at and called Egyptian in the Grand Canyon find were far older the United States and Egypt as well for that matter.

    Evidence of this is found with a multitude of examples where folks have found giant skeletons and strange artifacts only to have the smithsonian begin excavation and then swallow the evidence and plead ignorance of it's existance.
    Interesting as well is the report by Ignatious Donnelly in his 19th century book on Atlantis where he claims when he was working in Washington DC as a politician he was shown a secret treasure trove of giant skeletons and tools for giants in the Smithsonian by a Smithsonain scientist he had befreinded.

    Donnely's work is excellent in terms of pointing to this information. Graham Hancock is wonderfull as well.
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    Default Re: Ancient Egyptians, Grand Canyon

    Perhaps someone brought them from Egypt and hid them in the Grand Canyon for "safe keeping"?
    No doubts here that the Smithsonian would be involved in a cover-up, however...

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    Quote Posted by Cartomancer (here)
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    took a while but found it...

    Grand Canyon Mystery


    I took a quick look. This site aligns with the International Peace Garden just like the VLA does.I believe the VLA was later placed on an already established axis that was valued by Von Humboldt and Thomas Jefferson. My theory states that the International Peace Garden was placed at the spot that was established as an Axis Mundi by early Scandinavian explorers. The area known as "Little Egypt" in Illinois and Kentucky also aligns with the IPG and the Kensington Runestone. Now here we may have the site of the another "Little Egypt" in the Grand Canyon. I do have a video about that on the survivalcell channel on youtube. It is entitled Grail Mysteries of North America solved (a little presumptuous of a title but I am just trying to draw attention to what I have found). Thank you very much for this info. I think it does relate to what I have found. Unfortunately if it is related it means that the Egyptian artifacts etc. may have been placed by later Templars as a clue or type of property marker. It is just as possible that it all is absolutely true. This "Egyptian" area in the Grand Canyon would be on the same alignment from the IPG as Hoover Dam and its associated star chart. The star chart at Hoover Dam was dedicated by president F.D.R. in the heyday of Masonic development and interest in the United States. Check it out gang you are seeing discoveries right here on Project Avalon!

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yon#post283666

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n+grand+canyon

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yon#post558084

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yon#post664554

    related threads you might pull info from...
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    hyperboreans still live in a hidden city in the grand canyon, as well as mt. shasta in northern california, one day , when we quit killing each other and the planet , we might get to know our neighbors ...
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    Hank Wesselman is a writer who earned therespect of a Hawaiian chief
    to the extent that the chief had his walking stick copied, and officially passed it on to Hank.
    He told Hank some of the history of his ancestors, and that included Some Pharohs who sailed to Hawaii.
    That ,and some other information about Hawaiian traditions are in the book bowl of light.
    Lol, history of mankinds travels in a nutshell criss cross.

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    hyperboreans still live in a hidden city in the grand canyon, as well as mt. shasta in northern california, one day , when we quit killing each other and the planet , we might get to know our neighbors ...
    Interesting, I've heard Billy Meier state that the Hyperboreans now lived under Mt. Shasta, but I had never heard the Grand Canyon thing.
    Where did you hear the Grand Canyon thing? Just curious.

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    The Smithsonian would never cover up historical archeological evidence in North America, just because it goes completely against the existing control paradigm and completely destroys the current historical record, now would they?

    Naaaa....although that is exactly what they did.
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    DNA,

    Easter Island. Even my own New Zealand has evidence of tall bipeds who are not decendants of the claimed original inhabitants of this country. There are stone circles. There is a forest with stone buildings that has a 50 year moritorium on being investigated. There has been skeletons found that have jawlines and other features which don't match those of our polynesian roots. There are tales of 16ft red headed pale skinned fairies.
    There are carvings that seem more celtic than pacific.
    There is the Berkley University research that has a floatilla leaving Egypt with a Captain and Navigator who have the same name as the names of characters from Maori legend.
    The tracking of this floatill runs across the Indian ocean across the Pacific past Hawaii to California then down to Mexico and back acroos the Pacific. The navigation equipment was called a Taniwa which is very similar to and ocean going beast from legend. Here in NZ we have the sweet potato. Which came from South America. The DNA of our natives is however shown to be more closely related to the Taiwanese. Yet the language of our people, like the language of the Pacific and The language of the Easter Island place names is also much alighned with the Egyptiam Langauge.
    New Zealand natives speak of the land of MU. Lemuria.

    New Zealand was part of the KIngdom of Lemuria. It was a spiritual place which has many caverns and according to some ancestoral tidings, it was not inhabited to much for it held the secrets of the spirit of the civilization. In a cavern in a canyon, is hidden the greatest secrets of all time, hidden here from the likes of all.

    Gods own country some call it. Next door is Australia, where evidence of human or pre human existance has been found in remains dating back 30-60 thousand years. The Australian Creation myth includes Ayers rock being a plug to the pit of an abyss in which a great serphent was locked and in which when this happened knowledge of death bought about mortality, The Australian Aborigine believe in places holding spiritual foot prints like hauntings. Residuals.

    The New Zealand Maori who ever they are came in stages and the first, The Waitaha hold and oral tradition in song which locks the secrets of time within our nation. The hopi indian have a very special bond with these people and it could perhaps be that Jade of New Zealand is the stone for which the pipe of the end of times is hewn.

    Before people this land was of Birds and reptiles. The huge Haast Eagle is now of legens with a wings span of up to 15 meters, it ruled the domain of this nation and its feathers compare in elegance to the headress of the Native American.

    I see lots of hidden pasts, canyons or not. I am not missing any points whatsoever.

    This planet is not the USA. It is MUCH MUCH more than that.

    I am glad that you choose to join the rest of the world. Smithsonian or not I couldn't give a tinkers cuss for there is far more than a stuffy american institute to hide things in.
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    Quote Posted by Fractalius (here)
    DNA,

    This planet is not the USA. It is MUCH MUCH more than that.

    I am glad that you choose to join the rest of the world. Smithsonian or not I couldn't give a tinkers cuss for there is far more than a stuffy american institute to hide things in.
    Look, the rest of your post was awesome. I really liked it. But why are you going back to the tone of your original post which I was trying to state this post was not about.
    I suppose to a hammer everything is a nail?
    Oh well.
    Should we start a thread on Kittens and Puppies so you can find a way to vent some of your political agitation in there as well?

    Nothing but love brother, but you're preaching to the choir as far as this stuff goes. But you're generalizing to an extent that it is a tad bit insulting.

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    Thanks DNA, no offence meant, I must admit that over the past week I have been easily aggrivated, and perhaps your response to me prior to my recent post got my back up a little with regards to been told I was missing the point. Especially when I know for a fact with my ancestors behind me that I am far from missing the point.
    My aggrivation is towards the MANY institutes that have swallowed up artifacts. Skeletons in this country have gone missing too.
    Here we have the added contention that raising this issue is seen as a racial slur.
    All I can surmise is that the level of insult you registered mimmicks the level of insult I gained from your response to me. It was not maliciously aimed, I guess it is hard to hide my frustration that I have inherited from ancestors. The existance of these artifacts which you mention could well have been on the floatilla of ships which I mentioned in my post, that voyage has been dated to 232bc and information of it can be found here http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.co...avigators.html

    Peace be with you.

    For further information on New Zealand's part in this there are these..

    http://www.celticnz.co.nz/
    http://www.songofwaitaha.co.nz/

    For information I referred to regarding Australia there are these.

    http://www.crystalinks.com/aboriginals.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/dreamtime.html
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    From an independent reseacher



    This is a 2014 video from Harry Hubbard about the Grand Canyon and surrounding ancient architecture (not just about Egyptian connection). He is a logical, thorough and assiduous researcher who supports a hypotheisis backed by much researched evidence... North America was visited by many other civilizations.

    Quote Egyptian City In The Grand Canyon

    TABLE OF CONTENTS LISTED BELOW
    Learn why the Grand Canyon is off limits to the public! See the real Egyptian Cave, discovered in the Marble Canyon of Arizona! The Paradigm Crusher explains in detail the Egyptian Ruins of the Marble Canyon, as well as other sites in the Marble Canyon, while also discussing the cultures and architecture of several Southwest Native American Nations. Recorded August MMXIV.
    Introduction
    00:37 Grand Canyon
    7:12 Grand Canyon Treks
    18:15 Anasazi J.J. Brody
    21:56 The Cliff Dwellers Of Mesa Verde
    27:44 Casa Grande
    30:53 Yellow Jacket Ruin
    32:28 Prepare
    35:28 Peculiar
    36:53 Chavez Pass
    55:10 Chavez Pass Pottery
    57:57 Chavez Pass Petroglyphs
    103:42 NUVAKWEWTAQA
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