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    October Surprise... Found this, thought it was apt with all going on!!!

    Every year there is the threat of an "October surprise".

    This year isn't any different. The rumors this year for an October surprise revolve around the current administration. We've heard people from the Obama camp say themselves that what Obama needs to survive right now, is another 9/11 or something close to it. It would present an opportunity for 'O' to step up and take charge in order for him to redeem himself. Top Clinton Official: Only A Terror Attack Can Save Obama ...

    As witnessed in the news, The current administration are dropping like flies ... one by one. It seems like everyone under 'O' would like to bail before the ship sinks. IMO, we are going to see a shake up that will have to do with the global economy. IMO, we will start seeing more and more negative news about the economy. The news will make people fearful that there is going to be an economic collapse (not going to happen). It has been planned this way. Hegelian dialectic ... present a problem ... cause fear among the people ... the government steps in with a solution (any solution will be welcomed by the people). Links ~ China's Currency Dilemma and Hegelian Dialectic at work? Kohn to leave Fed in June; gives Obama opening ,Summers to Leave Obama's Economic Team ...
    Since there are only roughly five weeks until the general election, it is my opinion that a false flag terror attack or possibly disclosure on major events that have been hidden from the public will surface. Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots ....

    Believing that Obama could pull something off like saving the economy, (imo, the dinar revaluation is the only thing that could accomplish that) seems far fetched at this point. But, miracles do happen. I'd give a few more days to see if, in fact, Iraq's currency will be revalued. If it hasn't moved by October 10th, then the current administration will not be able to stick a feather in their cap come November 2nd.

    The revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar will have an impact on the US economy but that impact will take time to show chartable results on the nations economic indicator stats and will be of little to no use as a pre election marker of success.

    So we have a failing democratic administration facing an up and coming landslide of defeat on election day November 2nd 2010.

    As of right now even the strongest supporters that Obama had 2 years ago, are giving up hope of seeing any positive change within the economic situation in the US.

    Obama is now touting his 3rd "Economic Stimulus" plan fresh on the heels of two other plans that have had zero effect on the economy of the United States and unemployment is now reaching depression era levels.

    So what's a failing President to do?

    Well...if we think back to pre 9-11 President Bush's popularity was near an all time low...by shortly after the attacks of 9-11 his ratings shot higher that any President before!

    Add to this the off hand comments from people close to Obama who have said on the record that what Obama needs is a major terrorist attack in the US to rally the support of the nation.....that statement right there is horrible and I am so surprised that this was not made into a major issue by the press...but then again...we are talking about the US press the same press who turns a blind eye to all they are told to not touch or mention...so we are really talking about a state controlled media.

    We may indeed soon witness a classic "False Flag" operation which will be nothing short of true "Hegelian dialectic" action in which an "end result" (solution) is reached and achieved by the creation of a "problem" so great that the public cries out for the "solution" to the "problem" and the "solution" to the "problem" put forward by those who in fact created the "problem" is nothing short of the intended and desired "result".

    So are we at danger of seeing an "October Surprise"?

    In my opinion.....

    What will the "event" be?

    No clue.....but whatever it may be it will be orchestrated to exert the maximum amount of fear and anxiety available.

    Also be advised...IF we are under a declared "State of Emergency" all elections can be canceled and remain canceled until the lifting of the "Emergency"....and that "lifting" of the Emergency Status....can only come from one man...and that one man is...the President of the United States.

    Now THAT would be an October Surprise!

    Bottom line...have a plan....be safe...and be ready for ANYTHING!

    The best of luck to all.

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    Default Re: October Surprise...

    "The news will make people fearful that there is going to be an economic collapse (not going to happen)"

    No? So, can the system inflate the currency to infinity? All fiat systems fail. 100%. It's built into the design. Keynes said it himself.

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    this is such negative propaganda...the first two years after a presidential election, there's always a shake up in every administration. Especially after being under the kind of tension and stress this administration has been under after inheriting the worse situation any president in history has ever walked in to. In addition everything Obama does is shot down in the Senate by conservatives who have sold out and are being led by the nose by transnational corporations and banks intent on destroying the middle class.

    Our political system is broken...and it's only going to get worse now that Citizens United is in effect, we're going to see more Palins and ODonnells running for office who have been groomed with corporate money to be nothing more than puppets. The scary part is now that voting machines are compromised and with propaganda like this people have been scared, pacified and dumbed down enough they actually could win!

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    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    this is such negative propaganda...the first two years after a presidential election, there's always a shake up in every administration. Especially after being under the kind of tension and stress this administration has been under after inheriting the worse situation any president in history has ever walked in to. In addition everything Obama does is shot down in the Senate by conservatives who have sold out and are being led by the nose by transnational corporations and banks intent on destroying the middle class.

    Our political system is broken...and it's only going to get worse now that Citizens United is in effect, we're going to see more Palins and ODonnells running for office who have been groomed with corporate money to be nothing more than puppets. The scary part is now that voting machines are compromised and with propaganda like this people have been scared, pacified and dumbed down enough they actually could win!
    It really makes no difference who wins or not. The most highly moral and ethical person could be elected and shortly thereafter, the pressure comes down from off-planet and he/she instantly becomes puppetized.
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    Open ended systems cannot be controlled.

    Only cyclical systems can.

    Ergo.........
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Open ended systems cannot be controlled.

    Only cyclical systems can.

    Ergo.........
    What does an open system look like? No elections at all or clean elections?
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    Default David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifted"

    http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...risequarantine

    Interesting developments from Davids blog, note he mentions the huge triangular craft that Bill has also spoken about here.

    Check out the Symbology on those badges... once again.. ALL IN PLAIN SIGHT !!!

    GREAT WORK THERE DAVID......

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    David's description of how the Shift is unfolding (as laid out in the Law of One) is so elegant, it should be provable via mathematics. I'll bet Nassim Haramein could do it, if he hasn't already...

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    I also noticed earlier that Richard Hoagland is about to release a " Major Announcement", he has been very conspicuous in his absence of late, so it will be interesting to see what he has been working on...

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    pssst , he put MAJOR in capitals lol

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    I'm reading through the pages at David Wilcox's site - but one thing I don't understand is how would Obama be allowed to disclose this information about ET's if the 'ptb' didn't want it to be disclosed?

    And what would be their purpose for wanting that information disclosed?

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    and I've got another query for anyone who can answer.
    David writes: Contrary to the widely-held insider belief that doing this would create a massive "population bomb" that would destroy the planet, the real-world data shows that population growth significantly decreases once people are allowed to develop.

    They can even reach zero population growth, as in Japan. These cultures no longer need to have multiple children to ensure their own survival.


    Japan isn't not growing because they are a developed people. The men out number women greatly in every age bracket except for over 75's. And they have the highest suicide rate in the industrial world - it's not like their population remained at zero growth because they were particulalry enlightened.


    And China? China's leaders are contol freaks. Baby girls are left to die on the streets because boys are favoured and they have a one child policy. Their people's work for minimum wage.
    And this is one of the countries predicted to take a leading role in restoring the world - and that's good?

    And there was no disclosure on November 27th - so what's with that?

    I'm not being deliberately obtuse - it's just not making much sense and I'm hoping someone can point out what it is I'm missing here.
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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    and I've got another query for anyone who can answer.
    David writes: Contrary to the widely-held insider belief that doing this would create a massive "population bomb" that would destroy the planet, the real-world data shows that population growth significantly decreases once people are allowed to develop.

    They can even reach zero population growth, as in Japan. These cultures no longer need to have multiple children to ensure their own survival.


    Japan isn't not growing because they are a developed people. The men out number women greatly in every age bracket except for over 75's. And they have the highest suicide rate in the industrial world - it's not like their population remained at zero growth because they were particulalry enlightened.

    And China? China's leaders are contol freaks. Baby girls are left to die on the streets because boys are favoured and they have a one child policy. Their people's work for minimum wage.
    And this is one of the countries predicted to take a leading role in restoring the world - and that's good?

    And there was no disclosure on November 27th - so what's with that?

    I'm not being deliberately obtuse - it's just not making much sense and I'm hoping someone can point out what it is I'm missing here.
    It's true that once countries are allowed to develop far enough, birth rates go down. If you look at the data, the countries with the highest birth rates are mostly underdeveloped (mainly in Africa). The countries with the lowest birth rates tend to be "first world countries" with higher standards of living, etc. Obviously there are other factors too, but there is a definite, strong correlation. I think it has a lot to do with the availability of birth control.

    Japan is an interesting case - most couples nowadays only have one, maximum two kids because it's just so freaking expensive to raise one over there (not a lot of space, so it's costly to have more housing, etc). It's gotten to the point where the government has started offering monetary incentives for the Japanese to start making more babies. And Japan's suicide rate doesn't have anything to do with not being enlightened, but is due to a deep seeded cultural aversion to shame (of not being good enough, making mistakes, not being liked, etc).

    As for November 27th, lol. One can always make the "we were on a different timeline!" argument, but there's always been something about Wilcock that's rubbed me the wrong way. I dunno.

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    Quote Posted by cosmiclagoon (here)
    It's true that once countries are allowed to develop far enough, birth rates go down. If you look at the data, the countries with the highest birth rates are mostly underdeveloped (mainly in Africa). The countries with the lowest birth rates tend to be "first world countries" with higher standards of living, etc. Obviously there are other factors too, but there is a definite, strong correlation. I think it has a lot to do with the availability of birth control.

    Japan is an interesting case - most couples nowadays only have one, maximum two kids because it's just so freaking expensive to raise one over there (not a lot of space, so it's costly to have more housing, etc). It's gotten to the point where the government has started offering monetary incentives for the Japanese to start making more babies. And Japan's suicide rate doesn't have anything to do with not being enlightened, but is due to a deep seeded cultural aversion to shame (of not being good enough, making mistakes, not being liked, etc).

    As for November 27th, lol. One can always make the "we were on a different timeline!" argument, but there's always been something about Wilcock that's rubbed me the wrong way. I dunno.
    Yes, I do agree, Cosmiclagoon - and that doesn't have anything to do with human development - it's the result of governmental controls.
    David W was referring to developed humans, rather than developed countries.
    I think a country whose idea of a gameshow is to see who can hurt the other contestant the most - isn't that spiritually or humanely developed.

    I understand what you mean by him rubbing you the wrong way - I'm starting to feel it, too:
    Like when he writes:
    I do definitely believe the year 2012 will be a time of great change. That being said, life goes on, and this is not going to involve sudden worldwide catastrophes. In the unlikely event that such things did happen, ETs are standing by to assist us.

    Phew!!
    Well, that's good news isn't it?

    Wonder why they haven't helped the rest of the world through their disasters. Like the recently flooded out Pakistani's and the Haitians.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    There is one thing i don't understand:
    Within all the positive message, there is an inbedded commercial link.
    Why would somebody charge 77$ for a 3-hours web-link?

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    Wasn't Obama meant to have an October surprise? Did it happen or did I miss it?

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    David W was referring to developed humans, rather than developed countries.
    Yikes. I haven't read it all the way through, but now I'm thinking I should.
    If he really did say that (or say something that insinuates that), I believe it to be setting a dangerous precedent.

    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    There is one thing i don't understand:
    Within all the positive message, there is an inbedded commercial link.
    Why would somebody charge 77$ for a 3-hours web-link?
    Because he's in it for the money?

    I feel like he's always had ego issues, but in a more passive way, if that makes sense. Like, all over his website, it's his face plastered everywhere, and "oh, I ~might~ be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce", "I'm privy to privileged information", etc. If he truly was about the message, then he wouldn't make it all about himself, however indirectly.

    I mean, I get that he has to make a living... but you enter the dangerous waters of incredulity when you start making people pay large amounts for what should be free content. Like, I get having to pay for conferences since they're renting a venue and stuff, but this is streaming internet video. I could understand maybe $10 or $15... but $77? I don't think so.

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    Quote Posted by cosmiclagoon (here)
    Yikes. I haven't read it all the way through, but now I'm thinking I should.
    If he really did say that (or say something that insinuates that), I believe it to be setting a dangerous precedent.
    He writes: Contrary to the widely-held insider belief that doing this would create a massive "population bomb" that would destroy the planet, the real-world data shows that population growth significantly decreases once people are allowed to develop.

    They can even reach zero population growth, as in Japan. These cultures no longer need to have multiple children to ensure their own survival.


    And people development isn't the reason for the zero birthrates - it's people controls.

    http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...isclosureevent

    You can find the part under the heading "restoring prosperity" which is a short way down from the top.

    I'm going back to read more - I'm quite enjoying myself.

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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    Yeah Right!! The the QUARANTINE has not lifted, what you see happening is that he is falling for the mainstream media propaganda!! How can it be lifted when we are at war with our self's!!!
    He is not even questioning why we still do not remember who we are!! is that not a little bit strange !!

    Get ready for the Alien deception and false peace!
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    Default Re: David Wilcock Latest "China's October Surprise II: Earth's "Quarantine" Has Lifte

    O BTW they can come in with cloned ET's that has been talked about on the Internet, from the tall blonds to the Andromedan's. But it would not be them so my advise is to stay away from them!

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