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    Nuclear Fuel Swap Deal: US Sabotages ‘Unique Opportunity’ for Peaceful Resolution with Iran

    'In his inaugural speech in January 2009, US president Barack Obama promised a new beginning in foreign policy towards Iran, saying “we will extend a hand if you are willing to un-clench your fist”. He didn’t actually mention Iran by name then, but everyone knew he was saying that the Bush administration’s confrontational approach to the Islamic Republic was being replaced by a more reasonable policy based on mutual dialogue.

    Well, we better return to examine everything else promised in that address – about “decent jobs and affordable healthcare” and “America being a friend to each nation and to every man, woman and child” – because the 44th president is now shown to be a liar.'

    Read more: Nuclear Fuel Swap Deal: US Sabotages ‘Unique Opportunity’ for Peaceful Resolution with Iran

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    "Clinton’s evident glee from pushing for tougher sanctions in place of a workable dialogue reveals that the US is hell-bent on confrontation with Iran."

    Thats the inevitable conclusion from what is happening.


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    Hi Gita,

    Not too much should be read into that article from Debka about the carriers. The USS Truman is going on a 6 month deployment to the 5th Fleet area and will be relieving the USS Eisenhower which is finishing up its 6 month deployment.

    The two carrier groups will be in the Gulf area together for a short time as they transfer watch duty responsibilities. Then "the Ike" will go home.

    This is all normal and usual fleet movement.

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    "Clinton’s evident glee from pushing for tougher sanctions in place of a workable dialogue reveals that the US is hell-bent on confrontation with Iran."

    Thats the inevitable conclusion from what is happening.


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    Totally agree Bashi. The shame of it is that US is prepared to let the oceans go to hell rather than allow the Iraninans to sort out the oil gush disaster. They truly are of a different mindset to the rest of the human beings.

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    Thanks Merkhava. I do hope you are right but I won't be surprised if yet another flase flag situation arises just to give then the excuse to lurk there a while longer.

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    Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran

    Three German-built Israeli submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles are to be deployed in the Gulf near the Iranian coastline.

    The first has been sent in response to Israeli fears that ballistic missiles developed by Iran, Syria and Hezbollah, a political and military organisation in Lebanon, could hit sites in Israel, including air bases and missile launchers.

    The submarines of Flotilla 7 — Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan — have visited the Gulf before. But the decision has now been taken to ensure a permanent presence of at least one of the vessels.

    The flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel O”, told an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.”
    Each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile.

    The vessels can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150ft below the surface for at least a week. Some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal.

    The deployment is designed to act as a deterrent, gather intelligence and potentially to land Mossad agents. “We’re a solid base for collecting sensitive information, as we can stay for a long time in one place,” said a flotilla officer.

    The submarines could be used if Iran continues its programme to produce a nuclear bomb. “The 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran,” said a navy officer.
    Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral said: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.”

    Israel’s urgent need to deter the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance was demonstrated last month. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, was said to have shown President Barack Obama classified satellite images of a convoy of ballistic missiles leaving Syria on the way to Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    Binyamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, will emphasise the danger to Obama in Washington this week.

    Tel Aviv, Israel’s business and defence centre, remains the most threatened city in the world, said one expert. “There are more missiles per square foot targeting Tel Aviv than any other city,” he said.

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    Obama's Letter to Lula Exposes White House Forked Tongue On Iran

    By Steve Hynd

    May 28, 2010 "NewsHoggers" --May 27, 2010 -- Via Robert Naiman, it appears that President Lula of Brazil has decided to shine some light on the Obama administration's machinations on Iran. He has finally released the full text of Obama's 20th April letter to Brazil about the proposed TTR fuel swap deal and the entire thing appears today in Brazilian Foreign Policy.

    The letter reads, in part:

    The letter also specifically mentions the compromise of using Turkey as the location for Iran's fuel to be held "in escrow".

    I would urges Brazil to impress upon Iran the opportunity presented by this offer to "escrow" its uranium in Turkey while the nuclear fuel is being produced.

    This letter's authenticity is not disputed by the White House. It exposes the Obama administration's forked-tongue response to the Brazil and Turkey brokered swap. The White House is now in full spin mode, but the spin has already been undercut by the release of the letter's full text. Of late, Hilary Clinton has been the main vehicle for the White House's double-talk, which is now entirely aimed at closing down opportunities to find a negotiated settlement to the Iran nuclear issue no matter what the new National Security Strategy might say. But Obama must also bear the burden of blame, his is the desk where the buck stops.

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    This does not sound good:

    "US Nuclear Submarine Sails Past Straits of Hormuz"

    "Tehran reports that an Iranian naval patrol Thursday, May 27, detected a US nuclear submarine sailing through the strategic Strait of Hormuz, through which most of the oil produced by Persian Gulf states passes on its way to world markets. debkafile's Iranian sources report Tehran has placed its navy and army on high alert.

    Western intelligence and naval sources confirm that a nuclear-armed American submarine has in fact entered the Persian Gulf. This confirms debkafile's report of May 20 that the Obama administration had decided to boost US military strength in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf regions in the short term with an extra air and naval strike forces and 6,000 Marine and sea combatants. Carrier Strike Group 10, headed by the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier, was due to sail out of the US Navy base at Norfolk, Virginia Friday, May 21. On arrival, it was to raise the number of US carriers off Iranian shores to two.

    Thursday's arrival of a US nuclear submarine also ties in with the currently rising military tensions along Israel's borders with Syria and Lebanon.
    Up until now, President Barack Obama kept just one aircraft carrier stationed off the coast of Iran, the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower in the Arabian Sea, in pursuit of his policy of diplomatic engagement with Tehran."

    link: http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=2917


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    George W. Bush: ‘Starting Wars In Middle East Good For The Economy’ Take a wild guess who convinced George W. Bush that starting wars in the Middle East would be “good for the economy”? Oliver Stone interviews former Argentina president Néstor Kirchner

    Oliver with former President Nestor Kirchner discussing President Bush.


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    Russia warns against Iran sanctions

    Russia and China have warned against attempts to lobby for further sanctions against Iran in a UN Security Council vote due to be held on Tehran's nuclear program.


    "We are against forcing the voting process," Interfax news agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying in Beijing on Friday.


    The United States has been stepping up efforts to persuade veto-wielding UNSC members Russia and China to agree to a new round of sanctions against Iran.


    The US and European powers, along with Israel, accuse Iran of efforts to obtain nuclear bombs.


    Iran, however, strongly dismisses the allegations, insisting its nuclear activities are completely peaceful, aimed at meeting the growing domestic energy demand and providing the radio medicine needed for treating cancer patients.


    A number of Western diplomats have revealed that the Security Council is expected to vote next week on the US-brokered resolution which, if approved, would impose new sanctions on Iran.


    The US-led campaign for sanctions comes despite the issuance of a fuel swap declaration by Iran, Brazil and Turkey on May 17.


    Under the declaration, Iran agreed to send some 1,200 kg of its 3.5 percent enriched uranium to Turkey in exchange for a total of 120 kg of 20 percent uranium for the Tehran research reactor.


    "Even if approved by the UN Security Council, a new anti-Iran resolution would be inefficient," Ali-Akbar Salehi, director of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran said on Thursday.


    Salehi added that due to Tehran's lawful position and strong diplomacy the case would eventually end in Iran's favor.

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    Bilderbergers Green Light Attack On Iran

    The 2010 Bilderberg agenda has been revealed by veteran Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker and it paints a picture of crisis for the globalists, who are furious at the increased exposure their gatherings have received in recent years, as well as being dismayed at their failure to rescue both the euro and the failing carbon tax agenda, but more alarmingly according to Tucker, the majority of Bilderberg members are now in favor of military air strikes on Iran.

    American Free Press muckraker Tucker has proven routinely accurate with the information he obtains from sources inside Bilderberg, which makes this year’s revelations all the more intriguing.

    According to Tucker, Bilderberg luminaries are dismayed at the fact that “many important people” are not attending this year because, due to increasing exposure, invitees are “getting in trouble at home” and constituents are embarrassing them by asking irate questions such as “what are you doing with these monsters?”


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    Iran’s Disappeared Nuclear Scientist: Video Points to Unlawful US Abduction



    The mysterious disappearance of an Iranian nuclear scientist took another twist with the broadcast of a video message in which he claims that he was abducted by American and Saudi intelligence agents and taken to the US where is being held against his will.

    Reuters said that the identity of Shahram Amiri was not independently verified, but the Iranian foreign ministry seemed convinced of the video’s authenticity and said that it was now following up legal measures with the US over the case.

    The video was first broadcast on Iranian state television news on 7 June. It apparently shows Amiri speaking in his native Farsi into a computer wearing head phones. He claims that he was kidnapped by the CIA and the Saudi spy agency and that during his detention he was tortured in order to coerce him to make statements that were subsequently reported by ABC. [2] In his alleged confession, Amiri says that he willingly defected to the US and that Iran is conducting a secret nuclear weapons programme.

    CIA sources told ABC then that they considered Amiri’s purported defection an “intelligence coup”.

    Amiri, who according to Iran worked as a scientist at Malek Ashfar University in Tehran researching radioactive isotopes for medical treatment, went missing in early June 2009 during a religious pilgrimage he was making in Saudi Arabia. He was travelling to the holy city of Mecca, but is believed to have been detained by Saudi police in Medina.

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    Israel preparing for prolonged ME war

    Israel seems to be preparing for a prolonged war in the Middle East, demanding the United States for more military equipment and a boost of US-held arsenals in Israel.

    The requests were brought up during recent visits to Washington by high-ranking Israeli defense officials, and in conversations with senior administration and Congress officials, Haaretz revealed in an article published on its website on Tuesday.

    Among the requested weapons are US bombs and precision guidance kits, such as Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) that add GPS/INS guidance to bombs.

    The JDAM kits have been increasingly used by the Israeli air force in recent offensives, including in the 2006 war against Lebanon and the 2008 Gaza war.

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    UNSC slaps new sanctions on Iran

    The UN Security Council (UNSC) has voted in favor of imposing a fourth round of sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program.

    Of the 15 UNSC member states Brazil and Turkey voted against the new round of sanctions on Wednesday, while Lebanon abstained from vote.

    The fourth round of sanctions was adopted against Iran over its uranium enrichment -- which has been portrayed as a threat in the West despite repeated assurances from the IAEA on the non-diversion of nuclear material in the country.

    This is while 118 member states of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) voiced support for Iran's right to the peaceful use of nuclear energy on Tuesday.

    The resolution, which is claimed to be "the most significant" of its kind, tightens a previously-adopted arms embargo on Iran and bans the country from activities such as uranium mining.

    The resolution zeroes in on 22 Iranian entities over their alleged links with Iran's enrichment plans and missile programs while placing travel restrictions and financial sanctions on 40 individuals and groups.

    Javad Rahiqi, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran's Isfahan nuclear technology center, is among those facing new travel restrictions.

    Also targeted in the resolution are 15 entities, which the US says are "owned, controlled, and acting on behalf of the Islamic Revolution Guard Corps" and three others which are managed by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines.

    Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had earlier warned that he would end negotiations on his country's nuclear program in the event of fresh UNSC sanctions.

    Ahmadinejad also added that the new round of sanctions will not have any effect on the country's nuclear stance.

    In a bid to help resolve the standoff over its nuclear program Iran issued a declaration with Turkey and Brazil on May 17.

    Based on the declaration Tehran announced readiness to send some 1,200 kg of low-enriched uranium to Turkey in exchange for a total of 120 kg of higher enriched uranium to be used in the Tehran research reactor, which produces medical isotopes for cancer patients.

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    Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7148555.ece

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    Saudis say they won't help Iran's enemy

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020205


    This denial by the Saudi government is to be expected and it fits the potential timeline. The probability is extremely low that the Iran War will start from an attack by Israel.

    At this moment, the highest probability for an air attack is by American B-2 stealth bombers flying from the island of Diego Garcia.

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    SEA BATTLE FEAR AS IRAN SENDS FLOTILLA TO GAZA

    IRANIAN President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has vowed to breach Israel’s blockade of Gaza, as two aid ships and a military escort prepare to set sail.

    In a provocative move the ¬Iranian Red Crescent was this weekend due to send two vessels packed with food and medical aid and 70 relief workers.
    A third ship, carrying an operating theatre, could follow.
    President Ahmadinejad raised the spectre of a sea battle as he warned the ships would be carrying an escort of “volunteer marines” ready to “teach Israelis a lesson”.

    Ali Shirazi, the Revolutionary Guard’s spokesman for Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said it was “Iran’s duty to defend the innocent people of Gaza”. Foreign Secretary William Hague described the intervention as “unhelpful”.

    The blockade has been in place since Hamas took control of Gaza in 2006 despite inter¬national concern about a humanitarian crisis.

    That concern turned to condemnation on May 31 when, in a raid on a Turkish aid flotilla, nine people were killed by Israeli commandos.

    Despite promises of an inquiry the affair has all but destroyed relations between Israel and its main ally in the Muslim world.

    Abdolrauf Adibzadeh, the Red Crescent’s director of inter¬national affairs, said the ships were being sent in co-ordination with the Turkish government.

    Meeting Turkish leaders in Istanbul last week the Iranian president said the vessels would not shrink from a head-on clash with Israeli military.

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    Ive re posted this from another thread as it seems relevant here.

    God grant me the serenity
    to accept the things I cannot change
    The courage to change the things I can
    and the wisdom to know the difference


    I know nothing.
    I can read this and that but it is some one else's opinion.
    Most news is slanted by the point of view of the writer.

    There are many case in history of propaganda news, where innocent people on the same side have been killed and evidence manufactured to "prove" that the enemy did it, in order to whip up hatred of the enemy.
    Some must be sacrificed in the name of the cause.

    The moment one side says "Thats it I give up this senseless conflict" and let go of the tug of war it ends.
    History proves this. Japan surrendered that was not and end to them they grew from there. Germany surrendered they were quickly forgiven and now are a peaceful force in the world.
    The conflict in Northern Ireland went on for ages and now we have ex IRA in government. They gave up the conflict.

    I have no opinion the rights or wrongs of the current conflicts except that the truth probably lies in the middle and its up to opposing parties to say enough is enough.

    I leave it with the prayer above.

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    Israeli Nuclear Missile Boats Off Iranian Coast

    by James Dunnigan
    June 14, 2010

    Israel is stationing three of its five Dolphin class submarines in the Red Sea, and will keep one of them operating off the Iranian coast at all times. These subs will be armed with cruise missiles (equipped with nuclear warheads).

    Last year, Israel has received two more German built Dolphin class submarines, giving it a total of five (the others were received 9-10 years ago). The older boats have since been upgraded to include larger fuel capacity, converting more torpedo tubes to the larger 650mm size, and installing new electronics. The fuel and torpedo tube mods appear to have something to do with stationing the subs off the coast of Iran. Larger torpedo tubes allow the subs to carry longer range missiles. The larger fuel capacity makes it easier to move Dolphins from the Mediterranean to the Indian ocean. Although Israel has a naval base on the Red Sea, Egypt had, until recently, had not allowed Israeli subs to use the Suez canal. So the Dolphins were modified to go around Africa, if they had to. But now the Egyptians, who are also feuding with Iran, regularly allow Israeli subs to use the canal.

    Larger fuel capacity also allows the subs to spend more time on station off the Iranian coast. Currently the Dolphins can stay at sea for about 40 days (moving at about 14 kilometers an hour, on the surface, for up to 8,000 kilometers). Larger fuel capacity extends range to over 10,000 kilometers, and endurance to about 50 days.

    The two new Dolphins cost about $650 million each, with Germany picking up a third of the coast, as part of their reparations for World War II atrocities against Jews. The Dolphins have a fuel cell based propulsion system which enable them to stay under waters for over a week at a time. The Dolphins are also very quiet, and very difficult for the Iranians to hunt down and destroy. The first three Dolphins didn't have the AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) system.

    Israel equipped it's new Dolphin class submarines with nuclear cruise missiles in 2002. Israel also fitted their 135 kilometer range Harpoon missiles with nuclear warheads. These missiles are fired from the sub's torpedo tubes. The 1,625 ton Dolphins can carry 16 torpedoes or missiles and have ten forward torpedo tubes (four of them the larger 650mm -26 inch- size). The Dolphins are considered the most modern non-nuclear subs in the world. The first three cost $320 million each. All have a crew of 35 and can dive to a depth of more than 600 feet. The Dolphin design is based on the German 209 class subs, but has been so heavily modified that it is considered a different class.

    The Israelis have developed a cruise missile, which is has a range of 1,500 kilometers and carries a 200 kiloton nuclear warhead. The objective of deploying nukes on subs is to further enhance deterrence to any nation launching a nuclear strike against Israel. If one of the Dolphins are always at sea, even a first strike against Israel would not prevent a nuclear strike by submarine launched nukes.


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    Listen how this Palestinian kid speaks out about their situation.
    It broke my heart.

    Greetings,


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    Oliver - can you please move the above vid to the Israel thread here. Thanks angel.

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