Are aliens really demons?

[humanalien]

Compiles lots of modern photos and video footage with records and drawings of ancient aliens left by our ancestors.

So why all the mystery about who the Aliens are? All of the records and evidence point to the truth that they are the NEPHILIM races described in the Bible as hybrid human species derived from fallen angels mating with human women.................

Genesis 6:2.....That the sons of God ( meaning fallen angels, those who followed Satan in rebellion against God ) saw the daughters ( meaning women of the earth ) of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

The records indicate that the offspring produced several different gentile races. Some were giants / titans, some were reptilian, some had extra arms and 6 fingers, hair covered humanoids like Esau...

And we even see evidence of this remaining in our human gene pool on recessive genes... giantism is called acromegaly now... humans born with 6 fingers are called polydactyl ... humans born covered with hair are diagnosed with hypertrichosis... on and on...

As for the hybrid alien races that survived with their technology thousands of years ahead, we see them too. Esaus hair-covered humanoid decendants in the mountains are called bigfoot... And over 20 witnesses in a Russian park (including policemen, school children, a janitor... all walks of life) saw a craft land and 3 giants over 9 feet tall stepped out into clear view.

So the aliens are not just "little green men" but many diverse races of gentile humanoids that have inhabited this planet as long as humans have.

They are not coming from outer space... they are coming from below our feet. They live beneath the surface in an UNDERWORLD or hollow honeycombed earth... and beneath the ocean's surface. They do not inhabit the surface of earth, but visit often... and that's when we see them... throughout ALL OF RECORDED HISTORY.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MLqrTKZFX30

[Bill Ryan]

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Well, you just copied the entire YouTube text!

There's certainly evidence that some ETs, UTs (ultra-terrestrials) or IDs (inter-dimensionals) appear to us exactly in whatever way that suits them. That then tends to make our perceptions of them culture-contingent.

But of course, there is plenty of life on other planets (duh!), and, of course, some of those travelers have made their way here -- in both space and maybe in time, also. So to blanket the entire complex (and important) discussion with a few pithy, easy, summary, dismissive phrases is not very intelligent or helpful.

(PS: I wrote all that myself. )

[shadowstalker]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MLqrTKZFX30

[Mike]

What's a demon?

Here we get into a semantical battle with labels and so forth, so the question is really quite slippery.

I don't put too much faith in biblical texts - the "kind and merciful" God of the old testament spent the first few books wiping out everyone in sight. Therefore "Satan" couldn't have been too bad of a guy (demon?), trying to oppose this tyrannical "God" right?

Of course that's likely an archetypal tale involving extraterrestrial/other dimensional beings that we know very little about...but that's another thread, I s'pose.

The problem is, we use terms like " aliens", "interdimensionals", "time travelers" and so on, and they're every bit as vague and ambiguous as the word "demon". And now we have this conundrum of comparing one vague and ambiguous word with another. Where to begin?

These words mean different things to different people. if we asked the forum what an alien is, we might get 50 different answers. Ditto with 'demon'. How do we compare without a consensus?

[shadowstalker]

How do we compare without a consensus?

We don't, We Can't.
But that's my personal consensus...

[Mike]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
How do we compare without a consensus?

We don't, We Can't.
But that's my personal consensus...

Mine too

[Freed Fox]

We certainly shouldn't be so eager to slap labels upon other entities, of which we know very little (evidence of abductions and other such phenomena pertain to certain factions, not entire species), and particularly when these labels as mentioned previously often lack general consensus as to their meaning. 'Extra-terrestrial' is straightforward enough, 'demon' not so much.

Also, six fingers (polydactylism) is a dominant trait, not recessive.

[Justintime]

Are demons really aliens?

[donk]

I dunno dude, I think semantics can only take you so far.

An alien is a being from not where you are. We call Mexicans that come to the states aliens. It works. It does not mean 50 different things, it is someone from not here. Here being where you are, right now.

Demons are beings that are different than humans. They are different in that humans get their energy from light. Demons get their energy from fear (emotional energy, usually human).

Demons could be aliens. And vice versa. There is a plethora, perhaps infinite amount of manifestations of consciousness—these words are two of our (broad) categorizations of other’s experiences, an attempt at a common ground to be able to communicate an experience with entities we do not understand.

We have to have words we can share/relate to if we want to exchange information.

[Fred Steeves]

Are humans really the good guys?

[shadowstalker]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Are humans really the good guys?

Not all, some my see us as demons
Even some humans see other humans as demonic

[Mike]

Semantics never get us too far donk. I agree. I prefer direct language, but how does one apply it in a situation like this?

Aliens have alternately been mixed in with "time travelers", "other-dimensionals", humanoid creatures from other planets like ours, "demons" , "gods" etc etc..

Its become an umbrella term for a whole bunch of sh!t we don't really understand.

We do need some sort of consensus. That's what I was trying to say. I'm in agreement with you brother.

[donk]

right....the word demonic implies harmful to humans.

Consciousness probably takes infinite (therefore every) form, and so these labels do have a "correct" use (aka definition).

[Mike]

Posted by donk (here)
right....the word demonic implies harmful to humans.

Consciousness probably takes infinite (therefore every) form, and so these labels do have a "correct" use (aka definition).

Aluminum can be harmful to humans too, but we don't call it 'demonic', know what I mean?

Of course now we're doing the semantics dance

[donk]

weeeeelll, if you'll go back a few posts, you will find what I think of as universal definition of demonic:


Demons get their energy from fear (emotional energy, usually human).


Anyone wanna parse these words?


...oh yeah...I forgot...the term implies a consciousness. So only an entity or it's actions can be considered demonic.

I'm fairly certain I can crush the semantics...let's try:

New game:

Describe an entity.

Alien? Demon? Both or neither?

[Mike]

Posted by donk (here)
weeeeelll, if you'll go back a few posts, you will find what I think of as universal definition of demonic:


Demons get their energy from fear (emotional energy, usually human).


Anyone wanna parse these words?

Ha! I hear ya mate, but maybe "aliens" do too!

[johnf]

When I think of mankind at large , I can understand why people grab onto
simplified answers such as et's, angels, demons.
These encounters have a tendency to remind us of the greater reality that we live in.
Some of that reality can be understood , but, no matter what we actually find out, what we don't understand will still be infinite.
It is the minds job to answer questions, it does not like to acknowledge the unknowable.
Labels work well for physical objects. With our fellow beings they tend to put us under the power of others by our own consent.
World religions seems to give us the illusion that we have understood this interdimensional reality (whatever that really is), and that the choices are simple, we get to stop asking.

jf

[Mike]

We do of course need labels to give us relative distinction, but I guess my point, in this case anyway, is that distinction can't be separated with a piece of paper. We can assign similar and slightly different attributes to all the labels being discussed here, and still never know if we're talking about the same thing or something entirely different.

[Mike]

I'd personally love to hear from some of our members who've had abduction experiences...

[william r sanford72]

i have gotten many welts from the bible belt in the last 2 years over my encounters.seems the southern baptist call em demons...the local catholicks...no comment...on and on from a bible belt perspective.havnt had chance to ask a musilm but my brother law who is hindu seemed the most open.still need to run it by a few other persons.religion.nice box to put it all into.labels tend to do what religion does but we have to start somewhere.