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    It has been said that:"America is a giant experiment in contract law".

    Law for this, laws for that, laws for everything. Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, as far as the eye can see. judges and courts out the wazoo. Importantly, it was slowly taken over by private and vested interests.

    This was the failure point.

    It is important to understand that making laws for everything is what strips the social function, strips the underlying human social contract..... from the equation.

    Watch this and understand. observe closely the part about the daycare center,and that once broken by the creation of 'rules' (law), the social contract remained broken, even after the law was removed.

    Understand that when law intervenes and inflects itself into the given situation, social contract decays. The contractual situation evolves to the lowest common denominator, which is capitalistic low empathy mindsets in control... the given human system becomes broken...and remains broken.



    Understand that human beings operate in an atmosphere of social contract. recently it was proven that humans, in any given size of group and group of contacts are NOT naturally warlike, they are peaceful by nature.

    IF..one inflicts a legal situation from a top balanced power structure, then social contract is broken and law becomes the operating parameter and social behavior decays.

    In other words, humans don't need a strong hand from above, no. Quite the opposite. nor do they need a legal structure to run their lives (religion, etc, not needed)..it is rather that the strong hand and the law is what has broken their natural and normal social contracts.
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    Can anyone see the correlation to the Old Testament Demiurge Jehovah? I suggest reading the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. It is so obviously written by a sick and demented control freak. The Dark Cabal are without a doubt the modern day Pharisees. They just have to control every damn thing. It goes along with the territory and being negative. So they create laws upon laws upon laws because they are obsessed with control, which directly rises out of their own FEAR. These people live on fear, and you are what you eat.

    When a body is breaking down you have atoms stealing electrons from each other because there is a shortage of electrons. When a body is growing and thriving there is an overabundance of electrons because everyone is looking to share, they are happy electrons. Thankfully this is the way the basic blocks of the universe behave. This idea is a big part of the Kabbalah teachings... invoked by the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.

    The Kabbalistic Tree of Life explains that as you move into the higher densities, with each level the amount of laws we live under gets cut in half. On the Malkuth level of Earth, there are 96 laws. The astral plane would have 48 laws, the Mental Plane 24, and the Emotional Plane 12 and then 6 and then 3 (the Holy Trinity). At the level of Father or Kether there is only one Law and that is LOVE.
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    In other words, humans don't need a strong hand from above, no. Quite the opposite. nor do they need a legal structure to run their lives (religion, etc, not needed)..it is rather that the strong hand and the law is what has broken their natural and normal social contracts.

    That's some real gold there



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    I was amazed how "order out of chaos" is so prevalent in India. Very seldom does someone get into a rage over it.

    Typical Indian traffic scene - New Delhi



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    They can make all the laws they want...Im not worried.
    It's when law enforcement is out of control
    that's when I start preparing to move to another country.
    Got out of England just in time....1982.
    Today Im enjoying living in the Wild Wild West, (Central America)
    and have a huge respect for anyone who lives in the US or Europe.
    Those are soul killer countries.

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    Default Re: An important part of why America has failed

    Carmody--

    Wonderful post.

    So . . . . social contracts, once broken, cannot be restored.

    I can't imagine that this is true. Can you?


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    Default Re: An important part of why America has failed

    I think it has failed because the people handed over all their rights and responsibilities to the government.

    The nanny state came to be because the people wanted it.

    The founding fathers never intended for anyone to quit thinking and hand over the reins.

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    And I think also that she has failed because of her size.
    DC and the lobbyists too far away from most places,
    so ordinary people can't relate to what happens there.
    And not to forget the media, and advertising....

    But then again, maybe she hasnt failed, at least not yet...
    but is just going through a puberty crisis.
    Time will tell.

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    One of the social contract has also to do with the tax system. I remember years ago reading on a research that was comparing underground work (broken social agreement on taxes) versus "honest" society.

    It was discover that when the tax burden, all taxes included - on salary, sales taxes, medicaid taxes, entetainment taxes, etc etc - when all the taxes combined reach 60% of gross income, people start evading taxes. When it reach 70%, the whole system goes underground. This means that in fact, the social contract has been broken by the taxing governments, they over did it. And it was observed that once a society has gone under the table, even if taxes are decreased, it does not come back to its previous "honesty" levels.

    Social contracts are also quite broken when rampant briberies and mafia behaving are discovered amongst the elected ones, as it just happened in the last year in Quebec cities - 2% of contracts going to the mafia, 2% going to the parties or its elected members, another 1% to something else etc. It was calculated that Montrealers paid 30% of contracts values into briberies through their taxes. Such a breech in social contract will never be repaired.

    In the third world, where briberies is the way, it becomes part of the social contract. But do not ask for infrastructure being built for all, it is not part of these kind of social contracts. Same thing was happening in Montreal, you should see our streets, so full of holes and badly maintained that is feel like a very poor country by now.

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    Yes, the baboon story. The living real example, that shows the way.

    85% of the top violent dominant males in the group, managed to control and eat the largest amounts of the tainted meat -and died.

    What emerged, was the residual of the females and the more calm males.

    Many years and generations later, even with the infusion of new males from other groups, the new paradigm of a different method of communication and living...remains.

    The direct and real lesson... is that the violent and controlling males have to go. All of them.

    In totality. Period. All. Gone.

    If you want your peaceful society, then the alpha males have to go. No hiding, no working in the backdrop, no pretending to be good, no buried crimes, nothing. Gone in the absolute totality sense. No substitute of any kind will do. Genetically MISSING. Forever. Ended.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/sc...ted=all&src=pm

    http://www.ourfutureplanet.org/news/566

    And so on.

    Your only other option, if you decide to allow them to live and genetically "be", is to fight with that type ---forever. Without a break, around every corner, behind every bush and to live a permanently stressed life, with them mercilessly and relentlessly moving toward total control, forever... Because that is what they do, that is what they are, that is their wiring and they have NO incentive or capacity to change it. They'll kill you first and ..will do exactly that, with no mercy or thought. destroying your family, your future, your safety, your comfort, your peace, forever. As long as they are alive, they will twist your for their desires. And stress an entire world to their aims.

    Those are your options.
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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
    The Kabbalistic Tree of Life explains that as you move into the higher densities, with each level the amount of laws we live under gets cut in half. On the Malkuth level of Earth, there are 96 laws. The astral plane would have 48 laws, the Mental Plane 24, and the Emotional Plane 12 and then 6 and then 3 (the Holy Trinity). At the level of Father or Kether there is only one Law and that is LOVE.
    When I read this again I knew there was something wrong with it, and I wanted to correct myself and apologize. I went back and reviewed my lessons and it is actually 48 laws that we live under here in the physical plane, and that is why we have 48 chromosomes. (2 are spiritual and unrecognized by mainstream science.) In places that are very depressed or depraved, like in some dangerous urban areas or places where there is extreme immorality like Times Square or the West Side of Manhattan there could be 96 laws. These laws range from things like gravity to the need for food, air and water to survive.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Yes, the baboon story. The living real example, that shows the way.

    85% of the top violent dominant males in the group, managed to control and eat the largest amounts of the tainted meat -and died.

    What emerged, was the residual of the females and the more calm males.

    Many years and generations later, even with the infusion of new males from other groups, the new paradigm of a different method of communication and living...remains.

    The direct and real lesson... is that the violent and controlling males have to go. All of them.

    In totality. Period. All. Gone.

    If you want your peaceful society, then the alpha males have to go. No hiding, no working in the backdrop, no pretending to be good, no buried crimes, nothing. Gone in the absolute totality sense. No substitute of any kind will do. Genetically MISSING. Forever. Ended.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/sc...ted=all&src=pm

    http://www.ourfutureplanet.org/news/566

    And so on.

    Your only other option, if you decide to allow them to live and genetically "be", is to fight with that type ---forever. Without a break, around every corner, behind every bush and to live a permanently stressed life, with them mercilessly and relentlessly moving toward total control, forever... Because that is what they do, that is what they are, that is their wiring and they have NO incentive or capacity to change it. They'll kill you first and ..will do exactly that, with no mercy or thought. destroying your family, your future, your safety, your comfort, your peace, forever. As long as they are alive, they will twist your for their desires. And stress an entire world to their aims.

    Those are your options.
    It's not so much the persons.
    It's their testosterone levels.
    Lower those and change will happen.

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    It's not so much the persons.
    It's their testosterone levels.
    Lower those and change will happen.

    By the looks of all the teeeeveeee commercials this may already be in the works?
    Late night ads run neck 'n neck tween testosterone boosting meds and 'you may have cancer, call us now'
    Low testosterone is being pushed as the latest thing wrong with men that can be fixed with drugs.

    FWIW:
    killing off the Alphas would certainly annoy a lot of women folk me thinks
    mellow guys are boring ... one can read that in forums, magazines, newspapers, bathroom stalls, hell, youtube has entire sections discussing this *LOL*

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    It's not so much the persons.
    It's their testosterone levels.
    Lower those and change will happen.

    By the looks of all the teeeeveeee commercials this may already be in the works?
    Late night ads run neck 'n neck tween testosterone boosting meds and 'you may have cancer, call us now'
    Low testosterone is being pushed as the latest thing wrong with men that can be fixed with drugs.

    FWIW:
    killing off the Alphas would certainly annoy a lot of women folk me thinks
    mellow guys are boring ... one can read that in forums, magazines, newspapers, bathroom stalls, hell, youtube has entire sections discussing this *LOL*

    If that is true then Carmody's suggestion has my blessings
    Get rid of the lot, their women included. And don't forget their bratty kids.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    It has been said that:"America is a giant experiment in contract law".

    Law for this, laws for that, laws for everything. Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, as far as the eye can see. judges and courts out the wazoo. Importantly, it was slowly taken over by private and vested interests.

    This was the failure point.

    It is important to understand that making laws for everything is what strips the social function, strips the underlying human social contract..... from the equation.

    Watch this and understand. observe closely the part about the daycare center,and that once broken by the creation of 'rules' (law), the social contract remained broken, even after the law was removed.

    Understand that when law intervenes and inflects itself into the given situation, social contract decays. The contractual situation evolves to the lowest common denominator, which is capitalistic low empathy mindsets in control... the given human system becomes broken...and remains broken.
    The results of the daycare center changing its rules is, imo, a good example of the 'law' of unintended consequences at work. (for a definition see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequences)

    The more laws imposed, the more unanticipated/unintended consequences of those laws...until the system itself implodes.

    Applying this to the baboon story...the greed and selfishness of the alpha males resulted in their death.

    The more control applied, the greater the chance of self-destruction.

    Not saying that we shouldn't help it along and do what we must to eliminate the violent and controlling alphas....

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    I grew up in the USA with a mother who was hyper patriotic. We had screaming fights because I argued that all the governments are the same. I don't think the US is any different than any country in its problems. There is subjugation. It is clearly laid out in this video from the 80's as in many places.

    The material that we are still seeing argued is right here in. This story of alien intelligence may be a parable or it may be true. I feel that actually all this trauma is something we can use to propel us way beyond the limits when we finally take back power. I believe in expansion of consciousness. I believe I am part of a WONDERFUL story that includes the US experiment.



    I KNOW that we who are not content and whole within (and susceptible to listening to the degrading voice that is programmed to manipulate) are pulled into INNER war fighting or fleeing ourselves...always stressed....Geography is not the problem or any regime.

    There is a larger perspective that some call "spirituality" but I believe it is "reality"
    For instance, "the golden rule" states that I receive as I give. I believe the reason "I" fail (not America, not YOU, not the system) is when I deviate from deciding that no matter what I see around, I choose. I learn who is boss and why the system needed to develop trauma based manipulation.

    Do I decline to agree that I can be controled by fear?
    Do I just refuse to believe I am lowly, sinful and guilty EVEN WHEN I did not live up to the ideal!

    MY MIND has power. I am not a "fallen" creature.
    We are the evolution guided by a larger context of Creator and Creation
    Do I hold true to being OF CREATOR giving only what I would have done to me? Do I remain true to love? These seem an antidote to the twisted politic.

    Millions of stories of abuse mean that there are millions of people who must refuse to be driven on by the past and become loving to self as a body animal with mind. It is very much a master's game. This is something I am listening to at the moment:

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    I think the "Social Contract" is one of the great lies most have accepted.

    For some reason I think this fits here.


    Testosterone levels that are too low can be quite unhealthy for men but there are plenty of natural ways to keep it up. Women in power love war just as much as men in power (Napolitano, Clinton, Bachmann, Warren, etc), is their testosterone just too high?
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    recent studies have illustrated that your position is totally wrongheaded. That ancient and 'wild' humans were naturally peace-like, and peaceable..

    when the group gets too big, and a stranger can be seen in a group, then the paranoia begins and the sociopath can slip their low empathy desires into the mix.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    recent studies have illustrated that your position is totally wrongheaded. That ancient and 'wild' humans were naturally peace-like, and peaceable..

    when the group gets too big, and a stranger can be seen in a group, then the paranoia begins and the sociopath can slip their low empathy desires into the mix.
    Which position? If ancient and wild humans are naturally peace-like, why do we need the Social Contract?

    If its the testosterone, that could be true, but when mine was very low, I had more health problems than I do now but maybe I was just creating my own reality or something.

    If its the clip, it probably just doesn't fit here. Something that Delight said just triggered it.

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