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    Quote Posted by Iceberg (here)
    What I can add to this discussion is some verses of the Quran, what does it says about Jesus:
    Here are some more: (from https://www.clearquran.com/)

    (3.45) The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest.
    (3.46) He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.”
    (3.47) She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.


    Conceived without physical earthly father by the word of God, therefor Son of God. If one knows the works of the holy Spirit of God, one will understand how. Not bound by universal physics regarding creation. We live in a simulation.

    (2.253) These messengers: We gave some advantage over others. To some of them God spoke directly, and some He raised in rank. We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear miracles, and We strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Had God willed, those who succeeded them would not have fought one another, after the clear signs had come to them; but they disputed; some of them believed, and some of them disbelieved. Had God willed, they would not have fought one another; but God does whatever He desires.

    Clear miracles then, clear miracles now. Nothing changed. Jesus said:"Follow me". He was speaking to every individual. Holy Spirit is for every individual and essential for exaltation, and allows the miracles to come forth in Jesus' name. Did I mention Simulation?

    (3.55) God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing.
    (3.56) As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers.
    (3.57) And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.”


    Jesus is with God since resurrection by the holy Spirit of God. God exalted Jesus once in Heaven, and gave Him authority over Heaven and Earth. Definitely more than a prophet. That's why miracles happen in Jesus' name still, and more to come. It's easily verified: You can check Youtube for instance. Search e.g. "Healed by Jesus", "curado por Jesus", "Исцелен Иисусом" or "شفاه يسوع". See all the different hits, choose a couple no commercial ones of individuals. Have a look.
    "Punishment in this world and the next". Reincarnation is no joke. Blessed is he who takes time to understand and live according to what God deems righteous.
    Rewards e.g. are an exalted spirit, living in the same realm as God, the angels and the already exalted spirits, growing spiritually through lessons of other yet exalted spirits, assignments throughout different universes, and fun stuff like sports on supernatural level and drinking wine, as (de)materializing is part of the reward.

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    Quote Posted by jaybird88 (here)
    If you mention the idea that Jesus might have been married, Christians (mainstream Christians) get really offended and angry, its evil! The Devil! And they give no explanation on why its such a heresy to entertain such an idea. If He was married how exacty does that undo anything He ever taught?
    It doesn't or shouldn't but I suspect for some Christians it adulterates in some way the notion of a virgin birth and the subsequent purity associated with that.
    Virgin used to mean 'one who has not bore children', not 'one who has never had sex'

    Subsequent purity?!? Well that's kind of offensive. I would have substituted the word 'horror' in place of purity.

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    Jesus was a Buddhist Monk BBC Documentary


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    Very interesting, and recommended for anyone who has a strong interest in this complex historical detective story.

    It's only after 37 minutes that the BBC documentary suggests the idea that Jesus was in India (which is what the title is about). Twice: aged 14-27, and then again after surviving the crucifixion, until his death aged around 75-80, in 80 AD. (I've personally visited his claimed tomb in Srinagar. Most interesting, too.)

    Before that, the video explores how he may well have survived the crucifixion (and might well have married Mary Magdalene), and takes a detour into Mary Magdalene's journey to southern France, which I'm personally convinced was where she went to live for many years after the crucifixion. (Whether she died there, or returned to the Holy Land at the end of her life, I'm not quite so sure.)

    There's much more about this in my extensive thread
    ... and this new thread might very fittingly be merged there.

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    Default Re: The real Jesus, the real Mary, Gnosis, the Archons, and the world's first major smear campaign

    It is very likely that "jesus" wandered into Asia Europe India
    and more, and received and gave to all those old traditions.

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