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    Default Re: The real Jesus, the real Mary, Gnosis, the Archons, and the world's first major smear campaign

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    Two very good documentaries about Mary Magdalene and the smear campaign and outright censorship against her


    The Catholic Church removed the link between Mary Magdalene and Mary the prostitute in 1969. Maybe it is still taught in other Christian religions, but it is not longer part of Catholic teaching.
    In the end of this movie there's mention of something regarding the Catholic Church and Mary Magdalene, in the end of the movie. Don't know the exact details. Probably trying to polish their image...

    I found the movie very powerful. I can definitely recommend watching it.

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    If as you say, (ἄρχων = 'archon'.), then ...
    Well, those Greek letters, ἄ (alpha), ρ (rho), χ (chi), ω (omega), and ν (nu) are a literal translation of our word 'archon'

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    And what is the definitive definition of the word "archon"?
    Good question. Beats me.

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    Thanks, Paul. That's puzzling because if it's a literal translation of "ἄρχων" and if "ἄρχων" is a word that is used in the Book of Enoch, then why does the word "archon" not appear in the translations? (Not asking you to answer that--just thinking out loud and posing the question.)

    Yes, and then there's the definition of "archon" as well. I've heard it being everything from evil discarnate beings to "fallen angels" (whatever that means), to the Anunnaki. I'm still scratching my head on this one.

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    To the best of my knowledge it means to rule over or to be the chief or the highest, in a general sense. By deception from the look of things on this planet.

    I believe Mark Passio talks about the actual meaning of the word anarchist, broken down from it's Latin roots which means without a ruler. Similar roots I believe.
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    "There was certainly a historical Jesus."

    Proof?
    A bunch of books that are coming from a dodgy sources are no proof that something happened with certainty.
    Those stories could be massicely distorted, but that doesn't mean that there is no drop of truth in there, yet people take every single word seriously.
    Is religion the lie, in which some truth is delivered?
    We don't know, and can't be certain of it.

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    Quote Posted by bogdan9310 (here)
    "There was certainly a historical Jesus."

    Proof?
    It's a valid question. There are many answers in this excellent and fascinating book.

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    Quote Posted by bogdan9310 (here)
    "There was certainly a historical Jesus."

    Proof?
    I've struggled with this question often. I attended a Christian school from grades 2-8 before going to a public high school and college thereafter. Everything in grade school was taught from a Biblical standpoint with bible study for 2 hours each day. I found myself questioning a lot of things but learned very early on that authority doesn't like to be questioned. Was Jesus a real person?? Well, it's interesting how every major religion has a figure of similar "status". There could very well have been a person who had followers. Did he perform miracles and rise from the dead?? No, I don't think so. Was he the so called son of God?? No, I don't think so.

    For me, religion is a concept that was developed as a means to control the masses (and for profit and for war). I never really bought into it. However, I can be a very spiritual personal, and imo, there is quite a difference between religion and spirituality.

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    Did he perform miracles and rise from the dead?? No, I don't think so. Was he the so called son of God?? No, I don't think so.
    From everything I know and have read, that's correct. He was just a very inspired and exceptional spiritual teacher... and also a troublesome freedom fighter with a worryingly growing following in an occupied land.

    Ironically it was the Romans, centuries later, that twisted and embellished his story WAY beyond historical reality into a traditional godlike figure, straight from the archetypal template, that made the people easier to control. As we know, that's persisted to this very day.

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    Default Re: The real Jesus, the real Mary, Gnosis, the Archons, and the world's first major smear campaign

    You can't reason with "blind faith" and debating with devout believers is and exercise in futility.

    Here's a great book, D.M. Murdock's a.k.a. Acharya S "The Christ Conspiracy"The Greatest Story Ever Sold.
    Link to eBook on page.




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    Default Re: The real Jesus, the real Mary, Gnosis, the Archons, and the world's first major smear campaign

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    Did he perform miracles and rise from the dead?? No, I don't think so. Was he the so called son of God?? No, I don't think so.
    From everything I know and have read, that's correct. He was just a very inspired and exceptional spiritual teacher... and also a troublesome freedom fighter with a worryingly growing following in an occupied land.

    Ironically it was the Romans, centuries later, that twisted and embellished his story WAY beyond historical reality into a traditional godlike figure, straight from the archetypal template, that made the people easier to control. As we know, that's persisted to this very day.
    Hi Bill,

    This was posted earlier in this thread, but I'm going to post it again as it rings true to your above statement about the Romans and Jesus.



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    Default Re: The real Jesus, the real Mary, Gnosis, the Archons, and the world's first major smear campaign

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Ironically it was the Romans, centuries later, that twisted and embellished his story WAY beyond historical reality into a traditional godlike figure, straight from the archetypal template, that made the people easier to control. As we know, that's persisted to this very day.
    Undoubtedly the Romans/Catholic Church did as much they could to get as much control as they could from the Jesus and his message. Though regarding "Romans making" a Godlike figure, they could've changed left and right indeed. Though, Bill, are you aware wonders are being performed in the name of Jesus, today as well as before, after his time on earth?

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