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    Default CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    This is an article from CNN website. Dr Sanjay Gupta talks about medical benefits of the plant. Interesting and suggestive read

    Quote (CNN) -- Over the last year, I have been working on a new documentary called "Weed." The title "Weed" may sound cavalier, but the content is not.
    I traveled around the world to interview medical leaders, experts, growers and patients. I spoke candidly to them, asking tough questions. What I found was stunning.
    Long before I began this project, I had steadily reviewed the scientific literature on medical marijuana from the United States and thought it was fairly unimpressive. Reading these papers five years ago, it was hard to make a case for medicinal marijuana. I even wrote about this in a TIME magazine article, back in 2009, titled "Why I would Vote No on Pot."
    Well, I am here to apologize.
    I apologize because I didn't look hard enough, until now. I didn't look far enough. I didn't review papers from smaller labs in other countries doing some remarkable research, and I was too dismissive of the loud chorus of legitimate patients whose symptoms improved on cannabis.
    Instead, I lumped them with the high-visibility malingerers, just looking to get high. I mistakenly believed the Drug Enforcement Agency listed marijuana as a schedule 1 substance because of sound scientific proof. Surely, they must have quality reasoning as to why marijuana is in the category of the most dangerous drugs that have "no accepted medicinal use and a high potential for abuse."
    Dr. Sanjay Gupta is a neurosurgeon and CNN\'s chief medical correspondent.
    Dr. Sanjay Gupta is a neurosurgeon and CNN's chief medical correspondent.
    They didn't have the science to support that claim, and I now know that when it comes to marijuana neither of those things are true. It doesn't have a high potential for abuse, and there are very legitimate medical applications. In fact, sometimes marijuana is the only thing that works. Take the case of Charlotte Figi, who I met in Colorado. She started having seizures soon after birth. By age 3, she was having 300 a week, despite being on seven different medications. Medical marijuana has calmed her brain, limiting her seizures to 2 or 3 per month.
    I have seen more patients like Charlotte first hand, spent time with them and come to the realization that it is irresponsible not to provide the best care we can as a medical community, care that could involve marijuana.
    We have been terribly and systematically misled for nearly 70 years in the United States, and I apologize for my own role in that.
    Dr. Sanjay Gupta: 'I have tried' pot Medical facts of Marijuana WEED: A Dr. Sanjay Gupta Special
    I hope this article and upcoming documentary will help set the record straight.
    On August 14, 1970, the Assistant Secretary of Health, Dr. Roger O. Egeberg wrote a letter recommending the plant, marijuana, be classified as a schedule 1 substance, and it has remained that way for nearly 45 years. My research started with a careful reading of that decades old letter. What I found was unsettling. Egeberg had carefully chosen his words:
    "Since there is still a considerable void in our knowledge of the plant and effects of the active drug contained in it, our recommendation is that marijuana be retained within schedule 1 at least until the completion of certain studies now underway to resolve the issue."
    Not because of sound science, but because of its absence, marijuana was classified as a schedule 1 substance. Again, the year was 1970. Egeberg mentions studies that are underway, but many were never completed. As my investigation continued, however, I realized Egeberg did in fact have important research already available to him, some of it from more than 25 years earlier.
    High risk of abuse
    In 1944, New York Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia commissioned research to be performed by the New York Academy of Science. Among their conclusions: they found marijuana did not lead to significant addiction in the medical sense of the word. They also did not find any evidence marijuana led to morphine, heroin or cocaine addiction.
    We now know that while estimates vary, marijuana leads to dependence in around 9 to 10% of its adult users. By comparison, cocaine, a schedule 2 substance "with less abuse potential than schedule 2 drugs" hooks 20% of those who use it. Around 25% of heroin users become addicted.
    The worst is tobacco, where the number is closer to 30% of smokers, many of whom go on to die because of their addiction.
    There is clear evidence that in some people marijuana use can lead to withdrawal symptoms, including insomnia, anxiety and nausea. Even considering this, it is hard to make a case that it has a high potential for abuse. The physical symptoms of marijuana addiction are nothing like those of the other drugs I've mentioned. I have seen the withdrawal from alcohol, and it can be life threatening.
    I do want to mention a concern that I think about as a father. Young, developing brains are likely more susceptible to harm from marijuana than adult brains. Some recent studies suggest that regular use in teenage years leads to a permanent decrease in IQ. Other research hints at a possible heightened risk of developing psychosis.
    Much in the same way I wouldn't let my own children drink alcohol, I wouldn't permit marijuana until they are adults. If they are adamant about trying marijuana, I will urge them to wait until they're in their mid-20s when their brains are fully developed.
    Medical benefit
    While investigating, I realized something else quite important. Medical marijuana is not new, and the medical community has been writing about it for a long time. There were in fact hundreds of journal articles, mostly documenting the benefits. Most of those papers, however, were written between the years 1840 and 1930. The papers described the use of medical marijuana to treat "neuralgia, convulsive disorders, emaciation," among other things.
    A search through the U.S. National Library of Medicine this past year pulled up nearly 20,000 more recent papers. But the majority were research into the harm of marijuana, such as "Bad trip due to anticholinergic effect of cannabis," or "Cannabis induced pancreatitits" and "Marijuana use and risk of lung cancer."
    In my quick running of the numbers, I calculated about 6% of the current U.S. marijuana studies investigate the benefits of medical marijuana. The rest are designed to investigate harm. That imbalance paints a highly distorted picture.
    The challenges of marijuana research
    To do studies on marijuana in the United States today, you need two important things.
    First of all, you need marijuana. And marijuana is illegal. You see the problem. Scientists can get research marijuana from a special farm in Mississippi, which is astonishingly located in the middle of the Ole Miss campus, but it is challenging. When I visited this year, there was no marijuana being grown.
    The second thing you need is approval, and the scientists I interviewed kept reminding me how tedious that can be. While a cancer study may first be evaluated by the National Cancer Institute, or a pain study may go through the National Institute for Neurological Disorders, there is one more approval required for marijuana: NIDA, the National Institute on Drug Abuse. It is an organization that has a core mission of studying drug abuse, as opposed to benefit.
    Stuck in the middle are the legitimate patients who depend on marijuana as a medicine, oftentimes as their only good option.
    Keep in mind that up until 1943, marijuana was part of the United States drug pharmacopeia. One of the conditions for which it was prescribed was neuropathic pain. It is a miserable pain that's tough to treat. My own patients have described it as "lancinating, burning and a barrage of pins and needles." While marijuana has long been documented to be effective for this awful pain, the most common medications prescribed today come from the poppy plant, including morphine, oxycodone and dilaudid.
    Here is the problem. Most of these medications don't work very well for this kind of pain, and tolerance is a real problem.
    Most frightening to me is that someone dies in the United States every 19 minutes from a prescription drug overdose, mostly accidental. Every 19 minutes. It is a horrifying statistic. As much as I searched, I could not find a documented case of death from marijuana overdose.
    It is perhaps no surprise then that 76% of physicians recently surveyed said they would approve the use of marijuana to help ease a woman's pain from breast cancer.
    When marijuana became a schedule 1 substance, there was a request to fill a "void in our knowledge." In the United States, that has been challenging because of the infrastructure surrounding the study of an illegal substance, with a drug abuse organization at the heart of the approval process. And yet, despite the hurdles, we have made considerable progress that continues today.
    Looking forward, I am especially intrigued by studies like those in Spain and Israel looking at the anti-cancer effects of marijuana and its components. I'm intrigued by the neuro-protective study by Lev Meschoulam in Israel, and research in Israel and the United States on whether the drug might help alleviate symptoms of PTSD. I promise to do my part to help, genuinely and honestly, fill the remaining void in our knowledge.
    Citizens in 20 states and the District of Columbia have now voted to approve marijuana for medical applications, and more states will be making that choice soon. As for Dr. Roger Egeberg, who wrote that letter in 1970, he passed away 16 years ago.
    I wonder what he would think if he were alive today.
    "Question everything"
    "Why?"

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    Default Re: CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    "Question everything"
    "Why?"

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    Default Re: CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    Legal in some states, yes - Legal with the Feds, I'll be suprised if it happens any time soon.
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    Default Re: CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    Love that 'high-visibility malingerers, just looking to get high' quote.

    So in the great United States of America, where flags are waved constantly and everyone is told ad nauseum how 'free' they are, some people deign to tell other people that they can't decide for themselves how or when to partake of a simple freekin' plant? Something with obvious, known, medicinal properties but 'oh god, it's psychoactive!!!' and as harmless as broccoli.

    Gawd, I'm so sick of these pea brains. Doesn't matter if it's dangerous (that's what education is for) or addictive. It's a matter of personal liberty. Not to mention that the people that seem the most afraid of brain damage already seem to be suffering from rational thought deficiencies themselves.

    Our Founding Fathers all smoked hemp regularly. The vast majority of their discussions about whether to risk their lives with charges of treason against the King were liberally fueled with some pretty strong ale. Maybe the combination is what enabled them to think outside of the box and start the Revolution...

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    Quote Posted by HORIZONS (here)
    Legal in some states, yes - Legal with the Feds, I'll be suprised if it happens any time soon.
    I disagree I see it being rescheduled quicker then you think.
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    Quote Posted by HORIZONS (here)
    Legal in some states, yes - Legal with the Feds, I'll be suprised if it happens any time soon.
    I disagree I see it being rescheduled quicker then you think.
    If big pharma can get involved and make money then it could happen, but as long as they are not going to be able to package and sell it for themselves they will fight its leagelazition with all they have, and they have a lot. IMHO, I think big pharma is the main holdup in this issue. The ones with the money make the laws...or pay people to make the laws.
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    MSN posted this today...

    Quote (CNN) – President Barack Obama isn't looking to change current federal laws dictating the classification of marijuana, his spokesman explained Wednesday.

    Josh Earnest, the deputy press secretary, said Obama "does not, at this point, advocate a change in the law" that places marijuana in the same class of drugs as heroin, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms, and which deems cannabis to have no medical use.

    Responding to a question from CNN Chief White House Correspondent Jessica Yellin, Earnest described the Obama administration's position on marijuana as mainly focused on prosecuting drug traffickers rather than individual users.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...te-house-says/
    Like I said: I just don't see the Feds giving this up, not unless there is something in it for them.
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    Love that 'high-visibility malingerers, just looking to get high' quote.

    So in the great United States of America, where flags are waved constantly and everyone is told ad nauseum how 'free' they are, some people deign to tell other people that they can't decide for themselves how or when to partake of a simple freekin' plant? Something with obvious, known, medicinal properties but 'oh god, it's psychoactive!!!' and as harmless as broccoli.

    Gawd, I'm so sick of these pea brains. Doesn't matter if it's dangerous (that's what education is for) or addictive. It's a matter of personal liberty. Not to mention that the people that seem the most afraid of brain damage already seem to be suffering from rational thought deficiencies themselves.

    Our Founding Fathers all smoked hemp regularly. The vast majority of their discussions about whether to risk their lives with charges of treason against the King were liberally fueled with some pretty strong ale. Maybe the combination is what enabled them to think outside of the box and start the Revolution...

    Wow I didn't know this at all the original drafts of The Declaration of Independence was hemp

    but wiki said sheep skin
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_mater...nce_written_on



    Answer:
    Parchment
    The Declaration of Independence is written on vellum parchment, which is made from sheepskin and written in Iron Gall Ink.


    i thought it was neat


    this is the part i dont get
    Hemp

    Many supporters of the legalization of marijuana often mistakenly say that the Declaration of Independence is written on hemp but they are only partially correct.


    how can we be partially correct it's the dam original drafts of The Declaration of Independence. Who cares about the new drafts wounder what kind they were smoking when they wrote it pass it George Washington lol

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    My husband and I voted for legalization of marijuana here in Washington state and it passed. The Feds are still trying to figure out how they can make it difficult for Washingtonians because I don't think they ever want it to be legal. Too many 3 letter agencies make a lot of money keeping it illegal. The prisons make a lot of money when they throw users in prison. It's big business.

    I haven't smoked marijuana for over 25-30 years and my husband probably only tried it once in his life. But it just makes sense to decriminalize it completely. That would really cut back on the cartels and big dealers. In fact I'd just like to see almost all drugs legalized. If someone wants to destroy themselves with meth or crack or whatever, let them do it. That's about the only way I see to WIN the so called "war on drugs".

    I would like to grow some weed and experiment with the healing properties of the oil. I'll have to have my husband get a medical marijuana prescription. I'm too healthy to get one!
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    Default Re: CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    All of this (above) ^^ ....takes you to a very important post in this thread:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post718184

    The post:

    Quote Posted by Snoweagle (here)
    When the Rothschild dynasty claimed their prize of Palestine they sent the English to remove the Turkish military peace keepers stationed there.
    The trick was not to really create a bloodbath and create further hostilities with the Islamic friendly Turkish people so they avoided direct military conflict.
    So they "bombed" the Turkish military positions with drugs. Loads of drugs and other goodies fell from the sky. The Turkish military were slam dunked trashed loving everyone.
    The British came ashore and walked up the beach, packed the Turkish troops onto trucks and sent them home.

    During the Blair-Brown years of governing the UK the classification for cannabis was lowered, effectively legalised for personal use. This only lasted a few years but during that time, many new controversial laws were introduced to Parliament and subsequently passed with little opposition. Most importantly, these law changes included the dumbing down of the Treason laws which were necessary for the Zionists to take control of the UK. Blair exploited these changes voraciously.

    Now we see in the USA, the promotion of the peace inducing influence of cannabis in place of the anger promoting reactions to alcohol at a time when the global economy is about to crash and warfare breaks out in the US. Ii would not be unreasonable to expect a massive escalation of both hard and soft drugs being infused into the communities across the states. Keeping everybody docile as a keeper smokes the hive, each to their prize.
    Legalization .....has it's own issues...a created soporific mind-state inducement function.

    Satiation.... feeling like you are getting somewhere. The wind leaves the sails of the persons who doth protesteth......but the underlying machine they were in the act of attacking....... marches on.

    KEEP THE HAMMER DOWN.

    Before, during, and most importantly..... AFTER.

    Legalization is a chosen 'give', a distraction.

    A sacrificial pawn move, with multiple sides and potentials in purpose and flow.

    'Here's your weed', they say, 'now go off into the corner...and smoke it'.

    It isn't the intellect that is being dealt with here, by the elite machine, it is the body's function in controlling the pathways of thought and consequent action generation.

    If you take the weed they offer, on their self created terms....you must mentally move it to being on your terms, not their terms. Their terms that are projected (underlying unconscious projection into society as a media function) into the situation...which is them being like parents buying you a candy or toy.

    You make sure your mental context of this weed legalization.... is one of reclamation of conditions which existed before their interference. As that ---is the true reality.


    You take the proffered weed....you throw it behind you, back into your personal area (where they reached in and stole it from)....and you continue marching forward without blinking or shifting one bit.

    THAT ...is what is required.
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    Default Re: CNN Medical advisor on medical maijuana. Legalization coming next?

    Quote Posted by HORIZONS (here)
    Quote Posted by toad (here)
    Quote Posted by HORIZONS (here)
    Legal in some states, yes - Legal with the Feds, I'll be suprised if it happens any time soon.
    I disagree I see it being rescheduled quicker then you think.
    If big pharma can get involved and make money then it could happen, but as long as they are not going to be able to package and sell it for themselves they will fight its leagelazition with all they have, and they have a lot. IMHO, I think big pharma is the main holdup in this issue. The ones with the money make the laws...or pay people to make the laws.

    Pff, the same ol rhetoric from decades ago, we live in amazing times. Everything is changing so fast.
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