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    What exactly goes on at Pine Gap is a great mystery, and naturally quite a few theories have sprung up over the years. One claim, put forward by a political scientist (from the prestigious Australian National University) some years ago, was that Pine Gap housed a special type of low frequency communication device that could maintain communications with the US, via the earth’s crust, in the event of a total electronic collapse. A truly last line of communication. See the article below. This certainly fits in with Pine Gap’s chief official role as a communications facility. The claims were published in a newspaper article in 1970, which also references a magazine article.

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    To get to the point of this thread, I used the Wikileaks tool Herehttp://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/...0#searchresult to search through stratfor emails for information about Pine Gap (and a lot of other stuff). Sure enough I came up with something small but interesting:


    Email-ID 330555
    Date 2007-05-23 15:19:51
    From os@stratfor.com
    To analysts@stratfor.com

    For completion, I will post the entire email chain, but I draw your attention to merely the third line:

    Quote They do have kangaroo hunting season coming up.

    Peter Zeihan wrote:
    > *I know that they’ve got that cool seismograph at pine gap*
    > * *
    > *But I still don’t see why put a radar in the outback?*
    > * *
    > * *
    > -----Original Message-----
    > *From:* Rodger Baker [mailto:rbaker@stratfor.com]
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:16 AM
    > *To:* zeihan@stratfor.com; nathan.hughes@stratfor.com
    > *Cc:* analysts@stratfor.com
    > *Subject:* RE: [OS] US/JAPAN/AUSTRALIA: missile defense
    > the australian outback is the place for teh major over-the-horizon
    > radar systems. they already have some of these oeprational.
    > -----Original Message-----
    > *From:* Peter Zeihan [mailto:zeihan@stratfor.com]
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:15 AM
    > *To:* 'Rodger Baker'; nathan.hughes@stratfor.com
    > *Cc:* analysts@stratfor.com
    > *Subject:* RE: [OS] US/JAPAN/AUSTRALIA: missile defense
    > *Ok naval makes sense -- a lot of sense*
    > *But radars? Wouldn’t nearly any possible missile trajectory go
    > the other way?*
    > *Satellite control makes /some /sense – that could be anywhere tho*
    > -----Original Message-----
    > *From:* Rodger Baker [mailto:rbaker@stratfor.com]
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:12 AM
    > *To:* nathan.hughes@stratfor.com; zeihan@stratfor.com
    > *Cc:* analysts@stratfor.com
    > *Subject:* RE: [OS] US/JAPAN/AUSTRALIA: missile defense
    > australia is a location for the radar systems, and australia will
    > be part of teh naval systems, to send its ships to troubled areas
    > for missile defense as well.
    > they are also planning to set up the satellite controlk and
    > communications systems in OZ
    > -----Original Message-----
    > *From:* Nathan Hughes [mailto:nthughes@gmail.com]
    > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:48 AM
    > *To:* zeihan@stratfor.com
    > *Cc:* analysts@stratfor.com
    > *Subject:* Re: [OS] US/JAPAN/AUSTRALIA: missile defense
    > Oz missile defense only matters for Oz...and the emperor penguins.
    > Money can't hurt, though.
    > Peter Zeihan wrote:
    > *Er....how would Oz fit into the picture?*
    > -----Original Message-----
    > *From:* os@stratfor.com <mailtos@stratfor.com>
    > [mailtos@stratfor.com]
    > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:51 PM
    > *To:* analysts@stratfor.com <mailto:analysts@stratfor.com>
    > *Subject:* [OS] US/JAPAN/AUSTRALIA: missile defense
    > [Astrid] A growing military alliance between the US, Japan and
    > Australia is not news, but I think this talk of missile
    > defense involving Australia is... or was that also announced
    > in April?
    > US, Japan to study missile defence with Australia
    > 23 May 2007
    > http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...3-5-2007_pg4_6
    > TOKYO: The United States and Japan plan to study a joint
    > missile defence system with Australia to counter growing
    > threats in the Asia-Pacific region, a Japanese government
    > source said on Tuesday.
    > Tokyo and Washington have already begun installing a missile
    > shield in and around Japan to ward off potential threats from
    > North Korea. The government official said the new plan also
    > took into account the possibility of a Chinese missile threat
    > against Australia and Guam.
    > Officials from Japan, the United States and Australia agreed
    > to study the plan when they met in Tokyo in April, the source
    > said.
    > “The basic tenet of the plan is to step up cooperation between
    > the three countries in the field of security in the
    > Asia-Pacific region,” the source, who declined to be
    > identified, told Reuters. The source declined to say whether
    > Australia would go ahead and introduce a missile defence system.
    > “But Australia appears quite willing to contribute to
    > maintaining security in the region, and the joint study
    > programme was worked out to deal with the changing security
    > situation in the region,” he said. The United States and Japan
    > started planning a missile defence system after North Korea
    > test-fired a ballistic missile, part of which flew over Japan
    > and landed in the Pacific Ocean, in 1998.
    > Japan speeded up implementation of its missile defence
    > programme after North Korea fired a volley of missiles last
    > July - trucking its first PAC-3 interceptors into a military
    > base north of Tokyo in March. The United States has PAC-3
    > land-based interceptors on the southern island of Okinawa and
    > SM-3 ship-to-air interceptors stationed at the Japanese port
    > of Yokosuka.

    So, Pine Gap indeed has a seisemograph, and a remarkably cool one at that. This may or may not be public knowledge, but I didn’t turn up anything online that mentioned a special seismograph at Pine Gap. Naturally, this only feeds the theory that was published in the 1970 newspaper article (which discusses also the more conventional idea of detecting nuclear blasts). Anyway, I just thought it was interesting.

    You can read more about the Pine Gap theories (actually a well written piece) here:

    Quote Reportedly, extending some twenty thousand feet below the base is a bore hole containing an ultra low frequency antenna which is apparently used for secret experiments

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    Most UFOs' are positively charged and enter our magnetosphyere throught the south pole, and Australia, is the first allert for this activity.
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    There were a lot of whale beachings in Australia in the last decade (more than usual)and it was suggested at the time that the signals from Pine Gap (being low frequency and under ground/water) could be a contributing factor. There was some debate , followed by denials , but it all petered out. Presently Australia is entering enthusiastically into hosting military games and the later development of a base in the outback in conjunction with the US. None of this is secret, but none of this is given much publicity, or wasn't until a US aircraft discharged a load of petrol into the waters of the Barrier Reef recently.

    Personally I would believe this information about Pine Gap has some truth. It fulfils a function, and this seems as likely a function as most. Interior Australia is huge, virtually unpopulated and inhospitable for most of the year. It can hide a lot. It hid the bases etc necessary for the testing of nuclear bombs and the aircraft to fly them for the British, with only minimum disclosure to the Australian population. The same type of thing is happening again, mostly with the agreement of the majority of the Australian population--- well that is until the Reef gets polluted again, people got cross about that!

    *** I was wrong --- It was BOMBS (empty we are told), not petrol that was dropped on the REEF!!!! Phew! I feel so much better to have remembered that!!!!!
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    Pine Gap employees having fun!

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