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    Unprecedented: Sockeye salmon at dire historic low on Canada’s Pacific coast — “We think something happened in the ocean” — “The elders have never seen anything like this at all” — Alaska and Russia also affected

    Aboriginal people in British Columbia who rely on Skeena River sockeye are facing some extremely difficult decisions as sockeye salmon returns plunge to historic lows.

    Lake Babine Chief Wilf Adam was on his way to Smithers, B.C., on Monday for a discussion about whether to entirely shut down the food fishery on Lake Babine, something he said would be drastic and unprecedented [...]

    Last month, the department noted returns for the Skeena River sockeye run were dire. [...]

    [Mel Kotyk, North Coast area director for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans] said department scientists don’t know why the return numbers are so low. “[...] we think something happened in the ocean.”

    “[...] We’ve never seen anything like this in all these years I’ve done this. I’ve asked the elders and they have never seen anything like this at all.” [said Chief Wilf Adam]

    Full report here (Associated Press):
    Lake Babine sockeye fishery at risk of unprecedented closure

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    It was just a matter of time before the effecst of the Fukushima leaks began to show.

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    The effects of all the global pollution are starting to hit big time now, not to mention pure ice water melt that must be having an effect on salt water creatures of the sea's
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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    Acidification of the ocean, extremely high radioactivity levels, poisons dumped for decades, warming of the ocean waters.......a myriad of reasons for a mass die-off of all ocean species. If we don't raise our consciousness as a human family soon, we will experience our own die-off as well.

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    Quote Scientists think high water temperature could be to blame

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    Yea this is not good, but like other people have said it is most likely

    Fukishima. This might finally be a wake up call to people that they

    are being lied to. At the rate of 300 gallons of water leaking from the plan

    a day, it might not be long till we get a bigger sign. keep your eyes open, but

    pray this doesn't turn into an ecological disaster.
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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    More confirmation of humanity (and all living creatures) standing on a cliff and having loose soil beneath our feet.

    I also realize that if anything is done, if we step back from the brink, it will not be all of humanity awakened doing it together, but rather just a small contingent, the bare minimum number of people required. Most of humanity is in survival mode - they can offer no help. Most of those not in survival mode will have to be pushed back from the edge of the cliff, and they will be kicking and screaming.

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    So are the fish that arrive showing signs of radioactivity, Poison, pesticide, parasites, starvation? if not then this is probably not the cause.

    Maybe aliens like salmon as well?

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    People should rewatch or watch Soylent Green. Art or theatrical commentary is often a from of prophecy because it is a vision shared by some form of collective consciousness.
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    For those of us that grew up in the 70's, here is a reminder of what we may not have appreciated at the time(the good ole days). And this message of anticipation is valid today as well. Enjoy


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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    May the Great Creator bring life to the water beings who live in the seas.
    May the Great Creator bring life to the winged beings who fly in the air.
    May the Great Creator bring life to the beings who live on land.

    May Mother Gaia protect the spirits and bodies of our brother and sister beings who live in the water and keep them healthy and vibrant.
    May Mother Gaia protect the spirits and bodies of our brother and sister beings who fly in the air and keep them healthy and vibrant.
    May Mother Gaia protect the spirits and bodies of ourselves and our brother and sister beings who live on the land and keep us healthy and vibrant.

    We are one body, one spirit, and one mind.
    Those who kill the fish, the animals and the plants and poison the water, sky and earth kill all of us.

    May the mighty power of the Great Mother Gaia unleash the forces to crush the dark ones who are systematically and deliberately killing life on our precious planet.
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    I am so sorry for our marine life. And I love sockeyed salmon. The atlantic salmon, which are far from as tasty, are now cultivated mostly and are frankly less and less good and healthy.

    If this pollution is affecting all marine life, in this vast ocean, imagine at which level it has gotten, whithin about 70 years, not even a man's life.

    In 70 years, we will be starving, all of us except the 1%.

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    This is humanity's collective dark night of the soul phase. The night is darkest just before the dawn... But fear not, since the dawn will be bright and so beautiful.

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    and so it begins, what ever sea life feeds on these salmon, will look elsewhere for their food, then their numbers decrease, and so on ... I remember seeing whales wash up on shore that were burnt, dolphins as well , and fish up north near maine ...something is wrong with the ocean for sure ...
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    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    It was just a matter of time before the effecst of the Fukushima leaks began to show.



    I lived in Alaska for the past 13 years...

    commercial fishing is out of control (they fish out in the deep waters and run MILES of net) and ocean temps are changing.... this has zero to do with fukushima

    this has little to do with pollution and a lot to do with earth changes (NOT AHTROPROMOPHIC) a lot to do with human greed, and that's about it.

    Look around, do some research.

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    Thanks Target, you relieve my heart.

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I lived in Alaska for the past 13 years...

    commercial fishing is out of control (they fish out in the deep waters and run MILES of net) and ocean temps are changing.... this has zero to do with fukushima

    this has little to do with pollution and a lot to do with earth changes (NOT AHTROPROMOPHIC) a lot to do with human greed, and that's about it.

    Look around, do some research.

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    You make some good points here, Target, as I read the OP, my study of salmonids in college was poking at me.
    The ebb and flow of populations of fish in the oceans are part of a very complex web.
    We need to be aware of the vast scope of factors affecting this decline, before jumping to conclusions.
    I was struck by the stress in the report in the OP by on the sockeye salmon.
    I looked around for reports on other species.
    There was one report that talked about multiple species in puget sound area.
    It stated that runs of pink salmon salmon are expected to be good as well as coho.
    Chinook runs are expected to continue to struggle.
    The sockeye depend much more on plankton throughout their entire life than the other species.
    Though I am sure overall because of fishing pressures they all are dwindling in numbers, it seems the sockeye are the hardest hit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockeye_salmon#Diet

    So I think that there is something knocking off the lower part of the food chain.
    My sense is that the zooplankton portion of the food chain is a lot more sensitive to environmental changes than other parts.
    Similar to the massive declines in amphibian species around the world in recent decades.
    I am sure it is a variety of factors including the sea warming, and mass die offs from electromagnetic changes.

    However, all other species are dependent on this same section of the food chain, at least by proxy and at least in the northern part of the ocean will probably follow suit in years to come.

    I expect there will also be shifts of warmer water species to more northern ranges as time goes on.
    The resiliency of the biosphere is a truly amazing thing.
    I think things will be rough for a lot of different species, but humanity sometimes has to adapt it's diet of ideas and habits before it will change with the environment.
    This will probably be one of the survival bottlenecks that will urge us to change.

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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    Sorry for this - but the US navy has done some terrible stuff with underwater sonar/radar which definitely trashes shoals wherever they are. Mixes up their natural 'radar' and causes the species to go mad and do unnatural behaviours. The same thing with bird deaths and radar - 'we' are messing with the magnetosphere to the detriment of nature. Birds, bees, ants, fish, et al - all reliant on magnetosphere - which is being trashed by geo-engineering. All in the name of the 'global warming' hype/taxation/lies about the universal effects of what is to come. The banksters will suck everything unto death - they do realise 'something' greater than them is coming, but to trash everything in their wake is unforgivable. Time to take stock and fend for family and communities.
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    Default Re: "We think something happened in the ocean."

    Quote Posted by johnf (here)
    So I think that there is something knocking off the lower part of the food chain.
    My sense is that the zooplankton portion of the food chain is a lot more sensitive to environmental changes than other parts.
    Similar to the massive declines in amphibian species around the world in recent decades.
    I am sure it is a variety of factors including the sea warming, and mass die offs from electromagnetic changes.

    However, all other species are dependent on this same section of the food chain, at least by proxy and at least in the northern part of the ocean will probably follow suit in years to come.

    I expect there will also be shifts of warmer water species to more northern ranges as time goes on.
    The resiliency of the biosphere is a truly amazing thing.
    I think things will be rough for a lot of different species, but humanity sometimes has to adapt it's diet of ideas and habits before it will change with the environment.
    This will probably be one of the survival bottlenecks that will urge us to change.

    jf
    there was a brief temp spike in the Virgin Islands (years ago) that killed off a lot of hte zooplankton which lead to massive reef/coral die off, fish declines and the explosion of lion fish (a preditor with little-no fish above it in the food chain)

    now, it's not what it was but it's not dead and there's still plenty of life; the humans here are actively trying to control the lion fish population... but when has that ever really worked (with low/no funding)?

    I agree that the resiliency is amazing & would add that it doesn't have to always be the same as "it was" for it still to be healthy.

    there's more turtles than you can shake a stick at down here (and they are all supposedly endangered or something) so they must fall out side of the reef/coral ecosphere influence.
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