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    I'd like to bump this fascinating thread. Missed this completely and saw this for the first time today (thanks to a cross-reference in some other thread), so it would be a good idea to bring this forward - if some other members also missed this too.

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    I'd like to bump this fascinating thread. Missed this completely and saw this for the first time today (thanks to a cross-reference in some other thread), so it would be a good idea to bring this forward - if some other members also missed this too.
    Yes. it's interesting and important stuff... if properly understood!

    A good idea may be to start with my own post here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post733749

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    I'd like to bump this fascinating thread. Missed this completely and saw this for the first time today (thanks to a cross-reference in some other thread), so it would be a good idea to bring this forward - if some other members also missed this too.
    Yes. it's interesting and important stuff... if properly understood!

    A good idea may be to start with my own post here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post733749
    This thread brought my attention that Jimini (avalon member) posted 1800 post in 5 months and suddenly stopped. Any news from him?

    Bill,

    Am I mistakenly get offended By your 45# post which, secretly success "having a canadian slave" idea
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    Am I mistakenly get offended By your 45# post which, secretly success "having a canadian slave" idea
    Yes.

    It's an extremely funny spoof, written to make an interesting point about some of the content of the Old Testament.

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    Am I mistakenly get offended By your 45# post which, secretly success "having a canadian slave" idea
    Yes.

    It's an extremely funny spoof, written to make an interesting point about some of the content of the Old Testament.
    For correction in wording; we do not use that (slave) word. Immigrant is well suits the situation here.
    Love and Hope

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    A valuable thread for the newbies to read and understand.

    I highly recommend to STRIKE Jim's GAY bias and look at the data clear without bias.
    Last edited by Bob; 12th March 2018 at 03:45.

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    Default Re: Covert Hostility... the Tone Level... WHAT IT IS

    This has made my day lol.


    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    The topic of this thread is valuable. COVERT HOSTILITY needs to be understood.

    Here it is:



    But this has nothing to do with homosexuality.

    This was recently published on the net. It's hilarious. On her radio show, 'Dr. Laura' [Schlesinger] had said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. Enjoy the following open letter (written by an American teacher):

    Dear Dr. Laura:

    Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

    1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

    2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

    6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

    7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

    8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.

    Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

    Your adoring fan,

    James M. Kauffman,

    Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
    Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education University of Virginia

    P.S. (It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a Canadian.)

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    Default Re: Covert Hostility... the Tone Level... WHAT IT IS

    It seems that this thread reveals a LOT. This thread IS brilliant ! IMHO of course

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    Default Re: Covert Hostility... the Tone Level... WHAT IT IS

    Very educational posting, despite the negative publicity

    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    sympathy is lower than covert. At least at covert they are willing to fight a little.
    if only they could take it a notch up further and REALLY GET PISSED at the situation of this TRAP.
    I was there. Sympathy too (for the evil stuff), but that went away. I'm still REALLY PISSED.... I just don't feel it like I once did, but I know that it's there.

    That's why I wonder about the covert hostility. I feel as if I have got passive aggressive down to a science... and so I really have to be careful with my words.

    What got me the most angry was the level of orchestration that I perceived.

    Some things were even making me shudder. Like how long has this even been going on?!

    Quote Posted by jiminii (here)
    we are talking about 76 trillion years of pain.
    I was wondering how long this has been going on... THANKS! :/

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    Default Re: Covert Hostility... the Tone Level... WHAT IT IS

    Couldn't figure this out even then. Is it about homophobia? What is this tone level?

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Couldn't figure this out even then. Is it about homophobia? What is this tone level?
    It's when someone pretends to be nice and friendly but has a very hidden agenda to be harmful, exploitative, abusive or critical.


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    Default Re: Covert Hostility... the Tone Level... WHAT IT IS

    Good Grief, Bill! You are describing my religious, conman first husband!

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    Good Grief, Bill! You are describing my religious, conman first husband!
    You are lucky Foxie, mine did not even pretend to be friendly
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