I have seen people who were extremely agressive, covertly, everybody around finding them good guys and everybody around getting bitten, in turns. Those are extremely good manipulators, so good, that they convince themselves that they are ok, fine, the great ones.Posted by Limor (here)
I am sorry, but I'm having trouble with the various concepts in this thread. Personal troubles (My own emotions, my own responsibility etc). Is there a bottom line to all that's been said here? There is quite a lot of 'good' and 'bad' little judgments between the lines, also 'should' or 'shouldn't'..
Can a covertly hostile person be so 'covert' that he himself wouldn't know it? Astounding YES, in my experience Or is it only the consciously intended hostile person can be put under this definition?Astounding NO, in my experience of passive-agressive and covertly hostile
In other words, can some of us which have good to normal intentions but carry inner emotions such as unresolved anger, pain or anxiety but don't want to put it on others therefor 'play nice' are considered as having covert hostility? We definitely could, in fact, I think most of us carry covert hostility without being aware of it. We did not land here on earth for no reasons, we do somewhere vibrate with the negative energies
What can be done about it? awakening to oneself and open admission of whom we are and what we carry, positive AND negative. Getting out the emotional closet, one chakra up from sexual
80 % of those sick ones do not know they are sick, but about 20% know, Jimini you are wrong, some know - although Limor is not in these, the guilt is there and they are the most dangerous because they do get help into finding ways to manipulate - I have seen more of these in self-help courses, neuroliinguistic courses, spirituality courses than anywhere else. They were going there to get more Tools to manipulate, knowing quite well who they were. But hey, why should they care (I don't care is their motto, I will get what I want, I will use them).
Some do have bits of guilt, which makes them non psychopaths. When discovered, they blush and want to hide. Some have no guilt, which makes them psychopaths. When discovered, they attack in a merciless way, they want you to disappear.
Both have very stymied emotions, emotions learned to appear more human like, both know deep down they are not like the average "normal" person.
Now, this above is a world apart from the regular person who, at times, will be passive-agressive and/or covertly hostile. In this case, it is often repressed emotions, past hurts surfacing, fear waking up, old fears surfacing, etc.
All these, in regular folks, can be repaired if made conscious and accepted first, then resolved. However, it is often a painful process and many prefer to live half lifes with this discomfort and keep creating havoc instead of going through pain. Are we like the lazier ones? Here is the real question.