Please watch the Galen Winsor Nuclear Scare Scam lectures

[Kimberley]

Dear Bill and All,

There are several forum members and I that think that whistle blower Galen Winsor's nuclear scar scam information is the most important topic that we have come across in all of our many years of searching for the truth.


As I have stated several time now in several nuclear radiation threads ... my "beliefs" about nuclear energy reactors flipped 180 degrees after I listened to the 3 Galen Winsor lectures (posted below) and then ( for over a year) we compiled a lot of supporting evidence in favor of Galen's claims on the Galen Winsor thread.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-nuclear-scam-

Yes nuclear bombs kill and disfigure no doubts about that.

Since we know we have been lied to about so very many things in the name of greed and control ... and we know that instilling fear is the best method of control...

And we know that the cost/money behind the production of all types of energy is one of the top forms of keeping humans enslaved...

It is important that people listen to Galen Winsor's claims that nuclear energy is actually a very inexpensive (and mostly safe) form of energy... so it makes perfect sense that lying to the masses that it is dangerous and something to fear and needs to have high costs behind it to keep it regulated were added into the mix.

And the fear part helps keep us in control...

All I am asking one and all and especially Bill Ryan is to please take the time to listen to the three Galen Winsor lectures (the first 2 would be fine too) and then report what you think after listening to him!!! Please!!! Thank you!!!

Please do not post one thing after the other that supports the danger and harm that is claimed to have been caused by nuclear reactor accidents...

I know all of that..I have seen the pictures for most of my life...I lived 80 miles from three mile island nuclear plant..I saw the (propaganda) film "China Syndrome" film that was released on March 16, 1979, 12 days before the Three Mile Island nuclear "accident" in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. And I experienced the FEAR!! Big time!!!

Galen was consulted by the "China Syndrome" film makers and told them that the possibility of a melt down was hog wash...And I could go on...

So I am asking you to please listen to what Galen had to say...and comment on that..not asking you to prove him wrong..just wanting you to give him a listen and then comment on what you heard him say...thanks!

Below are the three lectures ...I suggest listening/viewing them in the order listed. The first 2 listed are a must IMO and the third is highly recommended.

The second is an audio file that is Galen's description of what happened at Chernobyl...it does take a few minutes to load so please be patient and wait for it to load...

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In the show more under this video are a lot of very interesting links...Such as this one
The Effects of Low-dose Radiation
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...ment/item/6932

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA

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This is an audio of Galen talking about what happened at Chernobyl

http://www.sheldonemrylibrary.com/Williams1986.htm

scroll down the page 3rd from the bottom till you see

8618a Report On Chernobyl by Galen Winsor (05/11/86)

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x42qi7Fz1L0

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Thank you ALL!!! Much love, peace, and fun!!!

[NancyV]

I'm pretty sure my husband would agree that radiation, or maybe just some radiation, is not as deadly as we have been lead to believe, unless he's a rare individual that it doesn't affect. He was stationed close to three mile island when the accident happened and was with some of the first guys who went in to secure it. They were there for several days. He never experienced ill effects from the radiation. Also his father was in the navy after WWII when they were doing nuclear testing around the Bikini Atoll. He actually flew through several mushroom clouds resulting from the testing. He is alive and well in his late 80's today.

In the mid 60's when my husband lived in Japan for a year he went to the museums with Hiroshima and Nagasaki artifacts, photos and stories. He was amazed at how many people who escaped the blast, but were very close and should have died from radiation, did not die or get sick.

I've watched a few videos about how radiation isn't as lethal as they say but I'll watch the ones you posted. I have an open mind about it and I tend to not believe anything 100%. Too many people lie or are deluded or have some kind of ulterior motives for me to trust anything 100%. Thanks for posting the videos!

[Kimberley]

Thank you for sharing that Nancy!!!! Much love to us all!!!

[Kimberley]

I would be remiss if I did not add this interview to this thread....

Low dose radiation can heal you and save the honey bees - Radiation Hormesis- Jay Gutierrez

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nxCLpA3JDQQ

Love, Peace, and Fun to us all!!

[ljwheat]

After listening to Galen Winsor and lifting the deep set fears of radiation I’ve held all my life 64 + years and finding Jay Gutierrez and his work with natural radiation really laid all my remaining fears to rest. Now using low dose Hormesis for over 6mo. With no ill effects. And only good results on anything I apply it to.

So getting Bills Take on this, a seasoned well versed interviewer, bar none, will be very interesting indeed. Good thread Kimberley its time we all take a good hard look at what the controllers of this world want to hide from us all.

[NancyV]

I finished the first hour and a half and just love Galen Winsor. He definitely comes across as telling the truth about his experiences. He also has a great sense of humor!

What an AMAZING scam they've been engaged in here!!!!!!!! If what he says is true, and I would bet that it mostly is, it's just one of the many scams being perpetrated upon us to suck money/energy and to exert more and more control over us. Wow, great info. I didn't realize how huge this is, if true.

Apparently he died in 2008 at the age of 82, so I guess all the supposedly lethal radioactive material he handled, swam in and even DRANK didn't kill him at an early age.

[Carmody]

It appears to be an issue of dosage level, over time, combined with recovery and correction. how well the given immune system is working, regarding it's 'knowing' of a foreign DNA structure, or a modified DNA structure.

[Kimberley]

Thank you again Nancy! Yes my father died at age 58 and I just had a friend die a few days ago at age 68...age 82 is very honorable isn't it? :-)

Here below is a 15 minute video that is worthy of adding also...and I do want to add that even though they say thyroid cancer increased after the incident...was a country/town of limited financial means really documenting the incidence of thyroid cancer before the Chernobyl incident?????? I suspect NOT!!!

Fukushima and Chernobyl: Myth versus Reality

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qaEKfPlCL_4

xoxo

[ghostrider]

I love how the scientist say this is dangerous to us and this guy just eats it while speaking of how dangerous we are told it is ... that part got me ...

[Operator]

Hmm, I am not so convinced about it being harmless ....

Have a look at this website for example:
http://www.chernobyl-international.c...ts-and-figures

I remember children (Chernobyl victims) coming to the Netherlands for vacation. This was not a myth at all.

And what about the malformed children born in areas affected by depleted Uranium? And also the vets who
used this ammunition suffering from radiation illness.

[Kimberley]

Posted by Operator (here)
Hmm, I am not so convinced about it being harmless ....

Have a look at this website for example:
http://www.chernobyl-international.c...ts-and-figures

I remember children (Chernobyl victims) coming to the Netherlands for vacation. This was not a myth at all.

And what about the malformed children born in areas affected by depleted Uranium? And also the vets who
used this ammunition suffering from radiation illness.

Hi...I asked that you watch the Galen lectures and to NOT try to prove or dis prove...I do NOT need examples...I have seen them... I have FEARED them!!! NO longer do I FEAR Nuclear Energy.

Please report again Operator after you have listened to the Galen lectures!!! Thank you!!!

[Operator]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Please report again Operator after you have listened to the Galen lectures!!! Thank you!!!

I've seen Galen before ... and I am not convinced by any of his lectures. I don't trust this guy for a minute.

[Kimberley]

Thank you Operator! I value your opinion!!!

You are on top of the game since you watched Galen and then have your view point!... This is a perfect example of how creating peace is ALL about agreeing to disagree... fffheeeehhhuuuwwww (wiping brow)...

Not here trying to convince anyone of anything....just a messenger! :-) And loving it all!!! :-)

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Please report again Operator after you have listened to the Galen lectures!!! Thank you!!!

I've seen Galen before ... and I am not convinced by any of his lectures. I don't trust this guy for a minute.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Of course a massive part of my reaction to these findings was relief as I live very close to Fukushima. This subject is so important yet so ignored by Avalon that it astounds me.

The chances of learning and studying the knowledge of something that terrifies you should be encouraging and encouraged.
With just the potential of eliminating fears surrounding this toxic topic alone, it should be gratified and questioned and most of all everyone should get together and spend some time putting pieces together.

I guess it's easy to just be anti-nuclear and just know deep down that it's a ****ty way to make energy. But like it or lump it we live these times and lets not forget the global warming scam they did. That was genius and they could just sit back and let the nay sayers do all the work for them.
Who's to say that this isn't the case here.. it's got perfect ground for it because it's in the (no go zone) (too complicated zone) (needs scientific proof zone) (can't be assed but it should be stopped zone) (end of the day we can't do anything about it zone) (we are all going to die from this zone)
Plus we are in times when many simply don't believe anything they read and think everyone that posts something is an insider to something trying to trick us. Or have nothing better to do than mix phantasy with fact.

I have been studying the way everything works in a very blocky kind of way and have been watching the royal bloodlines and how Japan holds the oldest royal bloodline and is a crime free country and has no armies and has money. The Japanese economy will never collapse as people may think. Trust me it will never happen. Japanese don't panic. Fearless in comparison to many.

Japanese top the charts on the worldwide longevity statistics.. followed by Swiss (yes that country that allows people to have guns)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

Sorry I'm drifting off subject.. babbling again.

So can we have some respect on this topic or is Kimberly just banging her head against a brick wall and I'm sure TargeT has had enough but he is perfect if you have quick questions as he has most of the nitty gritty information already installed in his memory. We need more members like that.

Yes I know one video won't change years of panic but it's worth contemplating and researching. We are all effected by this either way. If it's a real threat or a scam.

I don't watch TV anymore but I have that Africa 3CD downloaded and I watch that to restore my faith in this amazing and wonderful planet we live on. I travel a lot and see wonderful places full of happy people and enjoy flying and sit at the window always in awe at how vast and zoological this planet is.

This is Nuclear Power. A dumb ass way to boil water. So why? What are the real dangers? What are they really doing? What is the real agenda behind the reasoning to use nuclear power as a source of energy?

I have a bunch of Qs.. I will add some later but just wanted to say my piece on this.

So yes I agree.. come on Bill. We need the Bossplayer to help derail the last train to transcentral.

Ski-

[Kimberley]

Thank you SKIBADABOMSKI!!!

I do not have any answers...only a lot of questions! And would like Bills take on all of this...I have expressed my take.

Thank you all!!!

[meat suit]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Please report again Operator after you have listened to the Galen lectures!!! Thank you!!!

I've seen Galen before ... and I am not convinced by any of his lectures. I don't trust this guy for a minute.

good point, and even if Galen actually thinks he tells the truth, it still may be wildly inaccurate ..... he still may be right...I have no way of knowing personally....

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Kimberley and all -- it's a difficult issue. I've watched half of his presentation, but not yet all of it.

I can see he comes across as earnest and sincere, and I'm also well aware that it's almost impossible to square what he says with my understanding of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of straight-on, unbiased scientific studies that conclude exactly the opposite. A very large number of laboratory animals have died proving that radiation is very harmful for animal bodies. It's easy to find images if you can stomach looking at them.

I have no way of testing this myself. I am far from convinced. I'm not sure I'd like to eat a Cesium sandwich or go swimming in the Fukushima reactor pool.

It may not be wise or smart to base the claims of just one man, who was not in a laboratory to prove his claims beyond any doubt, but only speaking to an audience at a podium, and who is not with us any more to ask about Fukushima or anything else, in order for us to sleep easy about the problem and tell ourselves that there's no issue of any kind.

That would seem to be to be folly of the highest order: basing our entire emotional and logical response on the basis of what we WANT to hear and be reassured of. That's my concern. Tens (of not hundreds) of thousands of people who lived near Chernobyl died of something. That data, and the images of the victims, are not faked or falsified. Even allowing for a distortion factor of ten (which is a lot!) -- there is a problem there.

A well-attested and witnessed public case is that of the Russian Nuclear submarine the K-19, which experienced a critical reactor accident in 1961.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-19



There was an excellent movie about it, with Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson. The film is harrowing: it accurately depicts the very heroic Russian submariners going into the failed reactor one by one to try to save the situation. They all died within days. Here are the details:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Hm, some time ago the Galen thread was removed as a sticky, this amongst other people bothered me and Kim and after requesting Paul he decided to sticky it again, we were told it was just to clean up the threads, yet there are hundreds if not thousands of threads of way less importance (imo) including my own that haven't been posted on for years.

I am by no and I mean NO means an expert on nuclear technology but do know dangers are or can be involved when and if used or maintained incorrectly, but the questions I personally had sounded like this.....thousands of nuclear tests and all that was required to survive them was some distance a ditch and sufficient time to wait out the echo blastwaves ( blast passes over you once and returns again to its point of origin due to blahdidiblah, the vacuum it left on place of origin, goes around and comes around, anyway, there's a blast and a suck) and you have to wait both of these out, then you can get up, cover your mouth to stop immediate fallout crap and then your good again... well now, with thousands of on ground, below ground, underwater, atmospheric tests.. and constant confirmations of the destructive nature of at least the blast, heat wave, pressure wave and fallout, why then build nuclear powerplants that contradict the danger of nuclear power, if it REALLY was that dangerous why not stay the hell away from it in the first place, If the enemies bombs wont kill us... lets just kill ourselves, by putting up as many plants as we can in a nice spread out fashion so can kill ourselves all at once, whoopieeeeeeeeee, sure.. we can do this.... lets build them............... nah... not buying it, there is much much more to this story to tell and they aren't telling US.

I am very intrigued by the Galen presentations and lectures and am of the opinion they should at least stay up for the perspective they give, at least one different perspective, on the other hand I feel this is not the answer to end the discussion because lots of doubt and fear WILL remain in the larger population of the planet ( just look at this forum when the subject arises and we must be the group of best informed people on the planet at this day and age, even idiots like me are way better informed and its baffling to observe the discrepancy in knowledge there is between myself and people around me, I ( idiot) know so much more ( to a certain extent) than almost everyone I meet and that cant be good... I will repeat that..... not good.

If we still want include nuclear in this larger picture, perhaps the alternatives are better to explore, free energy is not going to happen any time soon the way I see it so perhaps Thorium IS the way to go, lots of work has been done on it already, much safer, more efficient, more abundant, the problem is in the oil, nuclear in its current form isn't the safest thing on earth, neither is oil, but its just so much cheaper then oil, when I would trade in oil, I would hate nuclear.

The environmental movement is keeping oil IN business and nuclear out of it, don't forget this.......... the people who started that movement also grew up in the cold war era, my mom was trained to duck under her school desk, take cover in ditch, curbside, stand under a doorway or run for the basement or subway, I as small tiny 778 walked in a lot of demonstrations against nuclear and bombs together with my parents, I hope the younger generations will and can stay free of this fear, but the truth has to be told and for that we also need Galens perspective, just for starters, and in the mean time research the alternatives.

Edit, it seems Bill and I were writing and posting opposing perspectives at approximately the same time and reading it made me wonder since when Hollywood and Wikipedia are trustworthy sources of information, anyone can post whatever they want on Wikipedia and Hollywood.......... biggest fear mongers and opinion makers and social engineers of them all, so once again I say there are many more sides to the story, also, please do remember who the folks are who subsidize/sponsor Universities and research and development ( usually to steer pursuit of knowledge and outcomes of that in the direction they wish, like in medicine, nutrition is the least addressed part, prescribing crap however...................big money to be made here, so....... as long as oil is available as a big profit earning product and energy source, no nuclear, no solar, no wind, no free energy and no Thorium will be pursued in the way it actually should be and attempts to scare us sh!tless an divide us to the bone will continue).

[The Truth Is In There]

as with everything, the dose makes the poison.

[Finefeather]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I can see he comes across as earnest and sincere, and I'm also well aware that it's almost impossible to square what he says with my understanding of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of straight-on, unbiased scientific studies that conclude exactly the opposite. A very large number of laboratory animals have died proving that radiation is very harmful for animal bodies. It's easy to find images if you can stomach looking at them.

It has of course also been noted by many people with the necessary qualifications...which I lack...that in many cases animals are entirely unsuitable for comparative testing to determine what humans should or should not ingest or use or get exposed to.
I am not trying to be remotely scientific when quoting this:

“There is no doubt that the best test species for humans are humans. It is not possible to extrapolate animal data directly to humans due to interspecies variation in anatomy, physiology and biochemistry.” –
MacLennan & Amos. (1990). Clinical Science Research Ltd., UK, Cosmetics and Toiletries Manufacturers and Suppliers, XVII, 24.

However in my experience of trying to understanding the levels of matter which make up the human body, which is determined by the state and quality of the etheric body vibration, some humans are able to withstand and reject pathogens and other viruses, and avoid been infected by some quite mean 'bugs' out there. I know of a case were one guy could not be infected by the aids virus, despite him been directly exposed to it...clinically.
And of course there are just thousands if not millions of cases which prove the same idea...not everyone is affected by the same thing.

Now IMO it is generally the majority who will 'catch' some 'bug' simply because they are the average state of the human race...and somewhere out there, will be a case where someone, or some group, or some persons with a 'different state of body vibration' will be found who are quite immune to atomic radiation. I do not know what the differences might be in the atomic structure of the materials they use for different uses, like weapons or power generation, but it might hold the key to the variations in what humans can or cannot safely be exposed to, from a nuclear fallout point of view.

IMO this entire anomaly is answerable by studying and knowing what takes place at the molecular level of our bodies when it is prepared in some way for higher consciousness.

To put it bluntly...the more we grow 'spiritually' in the form of consciousness growth...the more immune our bodies become to disease...and you cannot test that with animals.
Take care
Ray