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    Default Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3823566.html

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    For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as a nuclear fuel. Element 115 (temporarily named "ununpentium" (symbol Uup)) reportedly provided an energy source which would produce anti-gravity effects under proton bombardment, along with antimatter for energy production. As the intense strong nuclear force field of Element 115's nucleus would be properly amplified, the resulting large-scale gravitational effect would be a distortion or warp of space-time that would, in effect, greatly shorten the distance and travel time to a destination.[12]

    Another Lazar debunker is Dr. David L. Morgan. Morgan looked into all of Lazar's scientific claims and claims to have scientifically refuted most of the ideas that Lazar had elaborated on in his description of the alien spacecraft, particularly its propulsion systems and use of Ununpentium, or Element 115. Morgan stated that "After reading an account by Bob Lazar of the "physics" of his Area 51 UFO propulsion system, my conclusion is" this: Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories.

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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3823566.html

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    For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as a nuclear fuel. Element 115 (temporarily named "ununpentium" (symbol Uup)) reportedly provided an energy source which would produce anti-gravity effects under proton bombardment, along with antimatter for energy production. As the intense strong nuclear force field of Element 115's nucleus would be properly amplified, the resulting large-scale gravitational effect would be a distortion or warp of space-time that would, in effect, greatly shorten the distance and travel time to a destination.[12]

    Another Lazar debunker is Dr. David L. Morgan. Morgan stated that "After reading an account by Bob Lazar of the "physics" of his Area 51 UFO propulsion system, my conclusion is" this: Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories.
    Didn't the catholics say the same thing about Galileo in 1615…?
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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

    well now mr. morgan, our scientist can't be wrong , can they ??? little question for ya, what is the speed of light ??? yes science is soooo wrong about many things ... the answer is way more than the accepted 186,000 miles per second ...
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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

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    Didn't the catholics say the same thing about Galileo in 1615…?
    The present (official) form of science being the present ruling religion, on a similar scale to Catholicism in Galileo's day

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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

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    Didn't the catholics say the same thing about Galileo in 1615…?
    The present (official) form of science being the present ruling religion, on a similar scale to Catholicism in Galileo's day

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    and science, consistently proven by history, consistently defends it's "present ruling" until, consistently, proven wrong. At which point a new ruling emerges...
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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

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    http://cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-5760...periodic-table

    Element 115 one step closer to periodic table


    This periodic table has been saving a space for element 115.

    The periodic table may soon gain a new element, physicists at Lund University in Sweden announced Tuesday.

    A team of Lund researchers is the second to successfully create atoms of element 115. Officials from the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry will now review the experiment to determine if Element 115 deserves an official spot on the periodic table of elements.

    Temporarily named "ununpentium", Element 115 is super heavy and unstable. It was first created in 2003 at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research in Dubna, Russia, in collaboration with scientists from California's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. The initial experiment lasted from July 14 to Aug. 10, 2003, but the scientists spent years preparing for it.

    On its website, the Lawrence Livermore lab explains the arduous process of discovering a new element. The first step was to produce suitable targets, in this case made of element americium-243, an isotope that has 95 protons and 148 neutrons. Once prepared, the targets are placed inside a cyclotron, where they are blasted with calcium-48 ions, containing 20 protons and 28 neutrons. The collision of the americium-243 and calcium-48 produced element 115.

    Elements on the periodic table are given atomic numbers based on the number of protons in their nuclei. When researchers synthesized element 115 in the lab, they were able to produce two isotopes, which survived for 30 to 80 milliseconds before starting to decay. Each lost two neutrons, thereby becoming element 113. The element 113 isotopes survived slightly longer before also decaying.

    The initial four atoms of element 115 were enough to signify a discovery, but not enough to earn it an official spot on the periodic table of elements. However, the successful duplication could be the extra evidence scientists needed.

    "This was a very successful experiment and is one of the most important in the field in recent years," Dirk Rudolph, a Lund University professor of nuclear physics, said in a statement.

    If history tells us anything, element 115 could keep its unofficial name for quite awhile. After being discovered in 1974, element 106 was finally given the name seaborgium some 23 years later. More recently, element 114 sat on the periodic table for 14 years before earning the name flerovium.

    The researchers will publish their findings in the Aug. 27 edition of the journal Physical Review Letters.

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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

    I love it, area 51 wasn't supposed to exsist, then bob was a hoaxer, element 115 a hoax, nowdays the ptb admit area 51 exsist, and Bobs element 115 is added to the perodic chart ... what great times we live in when science fictions slowly becomes science fact , as we grow and learn together as a species ...next they will say we have transporter capability in the works ...star trek comes to life ... I wanna play on the hola-deck first ...lol
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    Nobody pretends that the as-yet unnamed big-boy will have much real world use. As Dirk Rudolph, the physicist who led the work at Lund University, dryly told The Telegraph, “Given the production rate—let’s say, two atoms per day—practical implications are far-fetched.” (source)

    "You're unlikely to see ununpentium in even the most advanced gizmos of the future, however. So far, scientists have found practical applications only for synthetic elements with 100 or so protons or fewer." (source)

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    So many people went out of their way to rubbish Bobs claims Stanton Friedman springs to mind but WHY would someone put themselves through all that scrutiny .... i suppose over time bob is going to get the last laugh especially once we learn how to harness the potential of element 115 .

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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

    Let's move into Robert e. Cox's revelation that it is BISMUTH that allows for the alloying into the alchemical creation of 'the white powder of gold', where we get to cooper paired gold atoms that are both in and out of this 'reality'.

    UUP just below Bismuth on the periodic table....

    Now let us return to the idea of very high energy state, the highest energy state, the FIRST solid on the periodic table, Lithium.

    Lithium as a catalyst and binding agent in the atomic level creation of an alloy. The whole Afghanistan invasion and lithium trove issue. CIA backed, Nazi origins, Nazi bell and UFO/dimensional craft issue.

    BTW, Nevada the UFO presence state, the 'area 51 state'..... is also 'the lithium state'.

    Then, out Peru/Bolivia way, more attention in the lithium troves out there. More presence of encounters with dimensionally enabled 'creatures'.

    Thus we are probably looking at the creation of the UUP alloy in a bound state, like the white powder, involving bismuth, lithium, gold, etc.

    Bake (sinster,etc) the alloy, build the craft properly, tickle it with electricity to enable force creation/gating/interaction and .... you've got the dimensional, shiny UFO -like craft that are seen in the skies.

    That UUP can be made and be made stable, but it must be manufactured in an alloyed bonded state.

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    All the more reason to try and create chaos right now, in the middle east ......and bury all of this data and connective tissue.....before it gets out to the general population.
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    Default Re: Bob Lazar's Element 115 added to Periodic Table

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    Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories.

    Isn't that just laughable? What a silly comment. The keywords here are currently, and theories. As if both are not subject to change!
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    They were kind enough to do it right, which is the words of 'currently' and 'theories', which the use of - is a drastic change from even 5 years ago.

    I guess my constant hammering on the idea of dropping the word law from science is finally getting through. (other people also picking it up as a common sense idea and understanding)
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    I'm not a fan of the name, should be called Lazarium.

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    So many people went out of their way to rubbish Bobs claims Stanton Friedman springs to mind but WHY would someone put themselves through all that scrutiny .... i suppose over time bob is going to get the last laugh especially once we learn how to harness the potential of element 115 .
    Since Bob's first introduction to the media about his work on alien space craft I have wholeheartedly supported this man.
    I also have met, chatted, and exchanged emails with Stanton Friedman. This was one of the many issues that he and I did not agree on.

    Bob Lazar is a modern day hero in my books, along with a long list of other names associated with John Lear.

    This serves in my books as recognition that Bob was truthful.

    way to go Bob

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