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    Whistleblower Reveals Military Mind Control Project At Major University - University of Arizona

    "What if the government could change people's moral beliefs or stop political dissent through remote control of people's brains?

    Sounds like science fiction, right? Well, a leaked document reveals that the US government, through a DARPA research project contract, is very close to accomplishing this.

    Activist Post was recently contacted by an anonymous whistleblower who worked on a secret ongoing mind-control project for DARPA. The aim of the program is to remotely disrupt political dissent and extremism by employing "Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation" (TMS) in tandem with sophisticated propaganda based on this technology. TMS stimulates the temporal lobe of the brain with electromagnetic fields."

    That was a quote made by Alex Pituba on Jul 30, 2013.

    See http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/...l-project.html

    I downloaded the articles, read through them, saw the DARPA KEY POINTS and MILESTONES desired, and in light of the major news posts by the two key researchers in Washington State University that demonstrated it (Rao and Stocco), which has been circulating in the major and minor news networks, Guardian (UK), Forbes Business, ABC, Reuters, Science, the Register, Extreme Tech, etc.. in light of that posting of demonstration of magnetic induction of a neural signal from another... the logical outcome is we have a disaster on our hands - a Global Disaster of epic proportions.

    Those of us who are older recall the stink with the Subliminal Messages embedding in the 60's. Such was a way to reach visually and very under the level of aware cognition (the you that catches things..) implant messages to influence behavior.

    DARPA never forgot how well that worked, and has since improved upon the state of the art in creating ways to win over your enemies, and modify the belief of those in the Free World (or the not so free camera monitored world of the European Commonwealth).

    The most recent grant given and programs established was to Arizona U - I will point out some of the names of the department heads and key researchers, extracted from their DARPA solicitation document where they describe (read: "brag") their successes and share the history of how they believe there are ways to determine a person's (or group's) neural mindset, or how they think, and then based on that "think map", know exactly how to get to one, first by dialog, second by creating a "group belief system" which creates a known MAP of projected behaviors, and then getting those in the populous to "believe" that the desired paradigm exists.

    Where the Arizona U guys get a bit more creative, they say, not only can the technology MAP what one's group is about, but map how to change and influence it, and carry it to the next step, a wireless way of beaming new thoughts. Forget the tin-hats guys, this is brainwave stuff which deals with transferring complex concepts. The result is a person or group radically is changed to the new way of thinking, and they don't even know they were altered.

    The article goes into depth explaining how the Religious fervor that exists in certain groups, they mentioned MUSLIMS as an example (gee is that a racist viewpoint, sure sounds like it to me), and how they can target and how it is desired to target such groups. Thank you DARPA for your kind guidance in how we need to be in the New World. They say in the article all this will guarantee peace. Just simply re-write how we will all think, how we will all behave, how we will all support Peace and Slavery (oops, I mean PROSPERITY), and how the world will be all roses with DARPA and the US running things the right way. Seriously, its that pervasive in the documentation of how they will do this, and how they will have ALL of it implemented by 2016. Gee, have we heard anyone talking about the great PLAN to be in place by 2016? See if they work for the military somewhere..

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    Above this is the model of the system the Washington State U people used, where the end result was the receiver wearing the Magnetic transmitter coils received the transmitted brain created "intention" message.

    From the DARPA whistleblower article:
    "INNOVATIVE CLAIMS Humans are storytelling beings.
    There is no clearer evidence of this than the struggles of the United States government to convince world populations of its good intentions, and to dissuade key constituencies from the powerful narratives told by violent extremists.

    In short, it is widely recognized that the U.S. is "losing the battle of the narrative" and thus, consequentially, the "war of ideas". This project responds to Technical Areas 1 and 2, with the aim of revolutionizing the study of the neuropsychology of narrative and its effects on persuasion. It will generate the knowledge to effectively understand, model, and disrupt narratives."

    In short to use their words, they KNOW the US needs better mind influencing methods and technologies because it is loosing the war.

    They define that humans have mindsets, or a way how they think. A religious person may frequently say their prayers 7 times a day, on command of the "Call". A different religious person may say the prayers only one time a day. A mideast perrson may go to the wall to say the prayers, and so forth, the point being a mindset exists, which is very strongly engrained into the person. That engraining allows for a pattern to be found that can be disrupted. I.E. Distruptive narrative modification technologies.

    Part of the U of A's work is to find WHERE in the brain the narratives exist, where the person is spending their time, and then to come up with specific ways to interrupt that pathway.

    The brainwashing part is very standardized, consisting of indoctrination, showing horrors, breaks in belief, breaks in concepts of a person needs someone to look up to... and then substituting something new (the desired pattern) into the mindset.

    U of A says hey, we can do it using Trans Cranial Magnetic Stimulation (modulation) and interrupt that pattern and stuff in our own belief system.

    Methodology wise, a zealot hooked up to a brain mapping receiver, plotting key regions for the needed data, allows it to be recorded and the filter processed for key "neuro-nyms" (similar to verbal phonems, but consist of frequency spectral packets which contain key concept segments) and the neuronyms are then coupled to a transmitter system which can be microwave, or sonic, or for discussion purposes where no weapons uses are directly obvious, (Magnetic) TransCranial Stimulation.

    Persinger for instance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger), has been an advocate trying to get funding for his TCM work, but apparently DARPA only likes to use US citizens for its research programs but they will gladly "take data from anywhere if it boosts the program".. Persinger pioneered TCM induced hallucinations in the 1980's very effectively even explaining the "religious rapture" experience and able to induce such with TCM.

    That plays right into the research that DARPA feels is important, modify the religious experience and thereby create a rapid change in personality, and modification to the desired belief system.

    More from the U of A DARPA solicitation article:
    (the following is in PhD geek-ese, so please bear with it, I will explain it afterwards..)

    "Mechanisms for Narrative Induction & Disruption: This project will result in an empirical basis upon which to craft strategic communication materials such that their introduction into a discourse system should induce a higher rate of narrative validity, transportation, and vertical integration.

    The Narrative Comprehension Network model will provide the basis for pre-testing such materials to ensure they activate the appropriate neural network components to maximize narrative induction.

    These same efforts will identify underlying mechanisms to disrupt narrative processing in the brain. We will have a thorough understanding of the neural and persuasive effects of manipulating narrative transportation, narrative validity and vertical integration. "

    They say clearly they want to find and disrupt selective pathways. They say there are Narrative(s) which exist (similar to how the mind continually runs internal words, talks to itself, maybe says prayers if the religious circuits are operative) and these Narratives are able to be located, and then disrupted.

    Later on they talk about substituting other patterns, "desired patterns":

    "Overall, this research program will provide important insights into the emergence or support of political violence and help clarify the role of strategic communication in mitigating it.." Mitigation is making things change in a way that is desirable. A simplest approach is usually explaining something and then showing through logic why such and such is a better way. To a psychotic radicalized mind though heaped and steeped in programming from some group (the have identified the religious fervor appears to create the strongest programming although I assume the "green sustainability buzzwords groups have created similar psychotic-like episodic programming)... the simple example and logic arguments won't work. TCM provides a magnetic equivalent to ELECTRO-SHOCK which such methods do work to break the short circuit in such programmed individuals.

    They also state they have a sub goal..

    "Sub-goal Two, to determine how narratives influence political violence."

    When they determine where in the brain the political thoughts are worked with, they will seek to create another program to "disrupt"... in other words, break the cycle that keeps the individual(s) and groups stuck in the program. The wireless magnetic methods show it can be done and again I point out that the two Washington U researchers demonstrated that a new pattern can be interjected remotely and create in a person an action, a new circuit is formed to create a physical movement for instance.

    The way a program is installed is usually by the instilling of a STORY. TELL A GOOD STORY and then the people will believe you. That is the stable datum.

    Here is what they say about that:

    "Narrative is increasingly recognized as important in government strategic communication (Wallace, 2010; Mullen, 2009) and has been studied extensively from literary and humanistic traditions.

    Here, we draw from Fisher’s (1989) narrative paradigm that helps to explain why people are often persuaded by seemingly irrational arguments by conceiving of humans as storytelling beings who are influenced by compelling stories.

    Halverson, Goodall and Corman’s (2011) vertical integration model lends specificity and pragmatic analytic substance to Fisher’s approach by articulating how narrative networks operate at trans-historical cultural levels, local levels, and personal levels, but there is currently little research that links narrative empirically to neural networks or persuasion, beyond narrative transportation (Green & Brock, 2004)."

    I call your attention to a master in the neural narrative reprogramming, Dr. Wayne Dyer - see Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Dyer . He is most amazing as a story teller and he specifically activates the existing programming pathways and modifies them, thereby creating miracles. It's not a miracle, it is a known method of neural reprogramming.

    By adding in the Religious Transcendental Circuit plus coupling in a story telling mode of much more drama the current circuit is shifted especially when a trauma can be evoked to create a stronger signal to induce the shift - i.e. he calls it "MAGICAL". (any science using an impressively created slight of hand where the perceiver doesn't know the ground rules will consider it magic..)

    U of A goes further..

    They state in the desired products claim"

    "Finally, this project will create a fundamental basis for understanding how to disrupt or enhance aspects of narrative structure, and/or brain functioning, to minimize or maximize persuasive effects on subject proclivity to engage in political violence."

    So what is "political violence", advocating that some ruler needs to take a course in Humanities so they can see that their actions are contrary to social stability?

    Who decides what is politically desired? Acceptable, able to be talked about or discussed? Who states if such mind "narrative structure modification" sciences can even be discussed out in the open?

    The logical step to mapping is stimulation.

    Washington State U researchers Rao and Stocco demonstrated that MAPPING can be done, MONITORING and RECORDING can be done, so can a particular transmission method, and so can a STIMULATION method be done and a desired outcome can be accomplished. Take a look at their funding by the way and see the ties.

    The logical steps are to use microwave broadcasts via satellites, hand held, vehicle mounted microwaves and couple the modulation neurnyms to the transmitters.

    In case you haven't realized, AUDIO signals contain microwavelengths. I used to mention such in my workshops I gave during the early 1990's - I pointed out the wavelength microwave to resonate Water (remember the body is mostly water), is about 22 gigahertz in radio wave "microwave frequency" and a corresponding audio signal to do the same is in the low ultrasonic range. I also pointed out free energy techniques creation Sonoluminescense and cold fusion, but that is a thread for a new story.

    If we let this stuff go unchecked, planetwide we are in for some really nasty control it seems to me.

    Thoughts? what are they?

    Bob

    U of A researchers mentioned in the DARPA SOLICITATION
    Dr. Steve Corman, the Center for Strategic Communication (CSC)
    Dr's Trethewey, Dr. Halverson and Dr. Ruston

    Corman is a co-PI on a "Minerva project" studying moderate Muslim culture and communication.
    The CSC has developed a pragmatic theory for understanding, analyzing and decomposing extremists’ narratives, generated a database of thousands of extremists’ stories, made portions of this database available to others in the DARPA narrative networks program, and created protocol for scientifically analyzing extremist narratives.

    This list goes on, and it is spooky.

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    It is time to stop thinking and just be, then they won't be able to control us.

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    Very many thanks, Bob.

    Whistleblower Dr Robert Duncan also talked about this entire, scary arena, in 2006:
    ...and in the second hour of this 2011 interview:

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    This is what the Draconians, (reptilians), were doing in the future. They had managed to put this kind of system into the galaxy to a point where they were literally "IN YOUR HEAD" and could inflict pain and etc to control everything.

    SO you can see where it is starting on this planet. Other planets that they have probably would not allow that kind of system since it is not a prison planet they would be allowed to experiment on.

    Alex Collier sept 11 2012 Youtube

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ayzbu_4FzR4

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    This, maybe not exactly, is already in use. We have determined "God's Love has been abused". I think this is partly what the benevolent consciousnesses mean by that. Dangerous. Bad. Makes me sad.

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    Bob Dratch has a holoform technology that can create space to neutralize scalar energies and this kind of brain weaponry. also have found that certain mantras repeated 100X or more can also achieve similar effects. the dalai lama's Oracle told Bob that the holoform had the same effect as 100x monks praying.

    as there are swords, there are also shields. and in wars of minds, we must persevere with whatever tools we have. Schneider wrote above that time is now for us to Be and not to Think. I agree. (recommend reading To Have or To Be by Erich Fromm)

    First there was sound, the word, the words in our heads create the energy fields, the programming of the mind. but over-riding a negative programming is possible. there are many tools at our disposal. but when we are up against heavy weaponry, it is hard and sometimes we don't survive. or we are beaten down into neurotic misery, paranoia and despair. medication follows. and with it total control.

    Bob worked with dolphins and whales for 20 years studying holographic communication and the healing effects on humans of their language. He developed technology that creates holographic fields of Beingness.

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    It gets even crazier. this is the sort of thing you are allowed to see. I'm sure black ops versions are much further along.

    Petri dish human brains

    "It's a long way from conscience or awareness or responding to the outside world. There's always the spectre of what the future might hold, but this is primitive territory”
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    Agreed. Watch out for "doping of psychotropic drugs". They prey on the perceived weak, don't want to be detected. "Some people do need their medication, this is not a blanket statement".

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    jiminii:

    I listened to about 1/2 the Alex Collier interview. I found it interesting and confirms what I have been told about timelines happening at the same time. Could you summarize the reptilians using mind control in the future?

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    Thank you for this post, I didn't go through all the data but some questions come to mind:

    Disrupting political dissent is of no use as it is already under control whilst extremism still is an effective propaganda tool. However, the religious aspect is interesting because it includes the spiritual dimension, the thoughts and therefore the mapping of the mind. I have no doubt this technology which can induce a magic and even a miraculous effect on the subject, is already in use.

    More technically, in order for the mind modification to be complete and steady, the transcranial stimulation would need to operate continuously, nearly 24/7 so that the magnetic transmitter could be either a brain relay or a machine, both artificial by the way. The hand held and vehicle mounted microwave broadcasts would not be practical or too expensive in my sense, does a cervical implant not do the trick?

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    Very many thanks, Bob.

    Whistleblower Dr Robert Duncan also talked about this entire, scary arena, in 2006:
    ...and in the second hour of this 2011 interview:
    Thanks for the links Bill - The current progress in the DARPA endeavors are taking steps a few notches higher. I am thinking I may start a thread dealing with appropriate counter-measures for such technology. Bob

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    Thank you for this post, I didn't go through all the data but some questions come to mind:

    Disrupting political dissent is of no use as it is already under control whilst extremism still is an effective propaganda tool. However, the religious aspect is interesting because it includes the spiritual dimension, the thoughts and therefore the mapping of the mind. I have no doubt this technology which can induce a magic and even a miraculous effect on the subject, is already in use.

    More technically, in order for the mind modification to be complete and steady, the transcranial stimulation would need to operate continuously, nearly 24/7 so that the magnetic transmitter could be either a brain relay or a machine, both artificial by the way. The hand held and vehicle mounted microwave broadcasts would not be practical or too expensive in my sense, does a cervical implant not do the trick?
    Howdy Buares - the spiritual aspect and the "story telling aspect" really took me by surprise, for instance Wayne Dyer's techniques I always found fascinating, like why would he have so much .success (and controversy), but more to the point, the deep motivation centers where-ever they may be tie in the transcendental, spiritual and the deep soul moving aspects. So with them attacking those core level values, apparently such is able to create massive flips in behavior and personality.

    I have since 1990 been able to look at techniques which evoke higher levels of stimulation wirelessly and remotely without direct electrode implantation, or magnetic field excitation applied locally.

    I had met 'Liz Raucher for one interesting conversation (her and Bill Van Bise were quite involved in creating different types of magnetic bio-stimulators with many uses), and the lively discussion ensued dealing with if the governments want it, somebody will come up with a way, and make some $$ doing it, not caring one iota if it crossed the boundaries of social ethics..

    What I have seen is when the "stimulation" is created to alter the pathways, under average living conditions, the effect for ONE SHOT lasts about a week.

    This pix depicts a "scrambled pattern" after having been hit with a pulse (a shot) capable of disrupting pathways.

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    Multiple shots don't accomplish anything useful during the 7 day period, if anything multiple shots evoke a self inhibiting mechanism, we call it "habituation". What I have also seen is each alteration creates a totally new set of parameters, something that the DARPA folks have not been able to solve, because the setup to induce alteration is based on a mapped pattern. When the pattern is changed, the original "coordinates" no longer are effective. Such basically has been a situation that has been a thorn in their side since I was first contacted by them in a IEEE presentation I made in NY City in 1983 dealing with the mapping issue and stimulation issue.

    There is a lot to this subject and it's going to take some time to expose all of whats happening and come up with adequate measures for countering such. What I find so ludicrous in the DARPA solicitations is nobody has even suggested that their programming methods need countermeasures to prevent their own from being co-opted.

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    Quote Posted by noramaccoby (here)
    Bob Dratch has a holoform technology that can create space to neutralize scalar energies and this kind of brain weaponry. also have found that certain mantras repeated 100X or more can also achieve similar effects. the dalai lama's Oracle told Bob that the holoform had the same effect as 100x monks praying.

    as there are swords, there are also shields. and in wars of minds, we must persevere with whatever tools we have. Schneider wrote above that time is now for us to Be and not to Think. I agree. (recommend reading To Have or To Be by Erich Fromm)

    First there was sound, the word, the words in our heads create the energy fields, the programming of the mind. but over-riding a negative programming is possible. there are many tools at our disposal. but when we are up against heavy weaponry, it is hard and sometimes we don't survive. or we are beaten down into neurotic misery, paranoia and despair. medication follows. and with it total control.

    Bob worked with dolphins and whales for 20 years studying holographic communication and the healing effects on humans of their language. He developed technology that creates holographic fields of Beingness.
    Hi Nora, thanks for the PR. I was going to start a separate thread dealing with techniques, counter-measures in other words, able to defeat such DARPA induced neural alteration from electromagnetic wireless stimulation and alteration..

    As some other readers have pointed out, the published tip of the iceberg is just that, there is a lot deeper stuff, but it is brute force stuff, the guys who think goats butts are pretty and stare at them are the brute forcers..

    The point about someone is able to hook up an EEG system, record, filter, modify it a bit, and then transmit to a brute force magnetic (scalar) wave generator and get a different brain at a distance to react to the neuro-nyms in the sender is frankly horrendous in implications. It confirms also how much neural data is potentially share-able between different people, at-a-distance (psychic stuff in other words could have just been given a pathway to prove it)..

    I see this particular event as a turning point, the linking of the Washington U people's experiment to the DARPA desires for neural modification, alteration of spiritual values as the nail that blows away free civilization. Its that concerning the implications.

    Bob

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    Very many thanks, Bob.

    Whistleblower Dr Robert Duncan also talked about this entire, scary arena, in 2006:
    ...and in the second hour of this 2011 interview:
    Thanks for the links Bill - The current progress in the DARPA endeavors are taking steps a few notches higher. I am thinking I may start a thread dealing with appropriate counter-measures for such technology. Bob
    Bob, I'm interested in reading your thoughts on counter-measures although wouldn't you need to know exactly what frequencies are being used first? I can tell you that some homemade Faraday Cage isn't going to cut it.
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    An easy and effective way to "jam" their spiritual attacks: use good, positive, music. Simple, available, effective, fun, uplifting. I have quite a library at this point and am happy about that although the reasons for accumulating them were self-preservation essentially. Looking on the bright side. :-) God Bless.

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    Something old, something new. I like this one.


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    Hello Bobd,

    I am going to cross link these two very fine and researched threads on this subject. I think you will find them highly valuable. It also serves to point in the direction of two members who have a critical understanding of this manipulative influence as they try to cross over between the organic brain and spirit.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post627848

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post632853

    A lot of reading there.

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    I'm updating a few sections in this post to refer to later posts, such as the start of the COUNTER-MEASURES section. We'll do a separate thread or maybe start a group when we get enough interest. Getting solutions I feel is important. Bob

    Thanks Christine. The subject has taken some dramatic turns with effective broadcast of a human brain's intent to another. Normally everyone is not synchronized enough so that neural-resonance can happen. Quick add on below as to tying some loose ends together.

    There is more technology in this thread than philosophy, so maybe we need to keep that in mind with adding mutual threads, somehow delineating philosophy, solutions, and who's behind stuff. I would like to see such somehow organized and managed so folks don't loose track on the key points..

    Normally neural resonance happens within families.

    I'm sure everyone has noticed at times Mum or Dad somehow knows what one is up to, that you can't put one over on them. Such is especially strong when a caring mother is able to track what is happening with baby at-a-distance.

    And one has seen one's pets seem to know when one is coming home from work at extreme distances.

    Also one has seen that certain people have a wonderful rapport with animals and young children.

    All of that comes from neural resonances, or the ability of a sensitive system that works on patterns, frequencies, to vibrate (and exchange small quantities of energy back and forth) in unison. The vibing in unison can be a wonderful thing.

    Early on in the threads in the DARPA article I posted, some forum members suggested "think good thoughts", look at appropriate vibrant videos, listen to the correct music to disrupt any beamed influences. I can add, switch often the personal vibrational pattern so as to not stay locked into one particular resonance concept.. I will point out what DARPA has said about "thinking good thoughts" and how they are working to influence the videos and movies we see being put out by Hollywood.

    The countermeasures article thread post (to be created shortly),

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post723220

    I believe is going to overlap with a lot of what I have seen in the Avalon forum.

    There are many people reaching for solutions because they care and they are aware something is happening, and its just not normal.

    If prophecy has foretold these times in history would be opportunities for change, they have apparently vibrated adequately to be perceived up and down the world timelines.

    Pre-cog events are able to be noted because any event of major significance creates a burble in the fabric of our worlds' space and time - there are created vibratory ripples (echoes so to speak), that ripple and travel forward and backward in time and space, the larger the ripples and more complex the more significant the "event" in reality. Visualize a pebble tossed into a still pond the surface of the water analogous to our world's space and time fabric- the woof and warp of reality is made up of threads of these interactive vibrations. If there are no forward and backward ripples the event is a fabrication, a mind's concoction, and not an event that travels across mutual realities.

    The shared vibrations induced in the still ponds of reality, interact through these ripples, and the patterns are often times just random enough that we don't often experience group think.

    To me that's the beauty of Freedom, in-so-much as we can have separateness and we can at our own choice find moments to vibrate together and share. We can choose when we want to get together, accept or reject vibration coming in. The richness of sharing is priceless.

    In some cases, the apartment building scenario, the neighbors upstairs, downstairs to the left and the right all are vibrating and some are very loud, and some are not. We are placed in a group social order and mind in that case and the apartment-personality syndrome becomes obvious all too soon. Then come the gangs, the civic community managers, the moderators to deal with the energies and dynamics and hopefully keep it all under control. The trolls, the bullies, the compassionate all are evident if one looks.

    Nobody in authority wants something to happen to upset the delicate balance of a social system.

    The DARPA program though coupled with the revelations of technique in the Washington university researchers directly threatens normal group and individual interaction. It threatens human social interaction and development. It threatens normal evolution.

    As a scientist, researcher and humanist, I find that meddling horrendous.

    Thanks Christine for being an organizing moderator - just wondering if we should try to somehow maybe create a special forum section to address and come up with effective ways to deal with the matters?

    Bob
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    Quote Posted by Openmindedskeptic (here)
    Quote Posted by Bobd (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Very many thanks, Bob.

    Whistleblower Dr Robert Duncan also talked about this entire, scary arena, in 2006:
    ...and in the second hour of this 2011 interview:
    Thanks for the links Bill - The current progress in the DARPA endeavors are taking steps a few notches higher. I am thinking I may start a thread dealing with appropriate counter-measures for such technology. Bob
    Bob, I'm interested in reading your thoughts on counter-measures although wouldn't you need to know exactly what frequencies are being used first? I can tell you that some homemade Faraday Cage isn't going to cut it.
    Hi OpenMindedSkeptic - (is there a nick other than that I can refer to? I just like to put a face to a person to dialog with)

    I think we will be starting a new thread under "Counter-Measures" or something like that to get into it in depth. Lots of people have ideas how that would work and have had methods which have worked for them effectively.

    DARPA and the rest of the spookies haven't successfully addressed counter-measures, and allow university and closed door researches to meddle around in fields similar to the haphazard high altitude detonation and exploration of nuclear fusion of the '50's all without realizing how globally significant (and long duration) doing something stupid can be. Like the deplorable mindset of letting loose a genetically modified organism (transgenics) into the wild to see if it really will behave as the "science" says it will..

    Think OPERATING SYSTEM (for computers) releases by the majors, Apple MS Linux - everything seems to be going just great during the release of the OS (or the browser or the app) and then BOOM, the bug appears. In genetics when those "Bugs" appear it can be very horrendous, taking Nature maybe millions of years to come up with a solution. ALL because of stupid meddling without taking into light all the ramifications BEFORE such research or release is contemplated or actualized..

    Without countermeasures or even understanding that such is needed not just for oneself and one's researchers and end users (or repairing global damage from such deployment), that shows that the powers that be don't have a clue or are so irresponsible they warrant correction by powers higher than themselves. (ouch)

    On the countermeasures concept - if we were simply looking at an easy one-dimensional signal, like a simple audio signal, one musical note, the countermeasure would be the opposite signal strength and frequency (and phase timing), so that the effect is 180 degrees out of phase canceled. One could develop and use a monitor to tell one if one has the desired pattern frequency groups and positions in the complex signal. Like listening to the whole orchestra to determine the complex musical notes and instruments and characteristics of the instruments to come up with a "counter" to the vibrations being created.

    Mathematically (not speaking vector wise), to cancel a value of "1" one adds a value of "-1" ... the resultant mathematically is ZERO. That is the basic concept of cancelling using opposites.

    One not experienced in the field of SCALAR creation though would just say," mission accomplished.. ITS ZERO whats the fuss all about ? " Cancelling results in scalar creation.

    The fuss that's about is in cancelling a powerful signal with the opposite signal is IF you could actually keep the phases (the peaks and valleys of the signal) aligned, the two energies played against each other create an intense STRESS FIELD, basically a scalar stress field. Scalar stress fields RIP apart organized matter and force organized matter to travel in directions they would not normally move. The resultant stress field is like a very insidious type of pollution. EM SMOG-like pollution.

    An example I used to use in workshops - Have two people stand next to each other hold their left and right hands up and that they face each other, and then have them press the palms of their hands against each other. One person is arbitrarily assigned as the PLUS force, the other is assigned as the MINUS or neutralizing force, and now tell them to push. This action if done with equally balanced opposite directional forces cancels the movement of both. However there is a LOT of energy being expended by the canceling action and there can actual be noted a temperature rise in the system from the work being expended. It gets more complicated with electromagnetic systems, but the build-up is never-the-less the same.

    The complexities of canceling the resultant SCALAR produced stresses induced is not simple, but it can be done with a proper system addressing the effect that comes off at right angles from the two opposing forces. Nobody has even cared to look at that distortion in space time induced by canceling. What bypasses the tin-foil hats and the Faraday shielding is the scalar components, plus there is an additional signature which re-creates the original electromagnetics which were attempted to be cancelled in the first place. This insidiousness with trying to cancel an electromagnetic signal or system, creates an all pervasive wormy or tunneling signal which is scalar that penetrates known shields. SO another method really is needed. Let's get into the philosophy of that other method of cancelling..

    Back to your question.. "HOW" are countermeasures created and then effectively implemented?

    I agree with you that the tin-foil hat methods, "Faraday cages" don't work with the complex waves involved with neural narrative circuits. My explanation in the above paragraph deals with that issue of non-shielding situations.

    For the lay person, the discussion is multi-pronged.

    I will attempt to coherentize things a bit by compartmentalizing and asking for some organization in the data and dialog. Simple FYI: When you see trolls for instance on Forums, they get people into diverse useless points, out of character, off topic, emotionally diverting.. That is a control attempt. It's not much different than the more powerful campaign tactics to use "insidious" (hidden) control methods. Ask the question who is the who doing the controlling and who stands to benefit by rabble rousing, or blocking direct perception on what's really happening - you find the network doing the assault. The TROLL action serves as a traumatic event to get the neural circuit being created (the discussion and coherence of information in the topic) to be disrupted.

    The disruption is the method that the DARPA people use in the solicitation to break the circuit and induce chaos. So when you see those trolls doing their thing, you will see the mechanism at work, and their success or failure to mess with the message. I see it as a micro macro representation of tool utilization. All tools are present that one has to achieve getting to the next immediate step in any one's quest to get answers, obtain solutions, achieve one's goals. Lemons are good for lemonade..

    Let's start with a set of observations (the ID STEP) We are going to keep it very simplistic, the concepts below can whole volumes written about it, but lets move forwards - folks in power with money and big sticks know they have effective ways to control others. The aim is control of others. Those folks without money or just persuasion, try to stop that control and substitute in their own. The argument then is about control and who has the right to use it over another. Let's save that discussion for another thread. Economic control as pointed out by many Forum members is effective. By the forcing of economic systems on people, the slavery is created evoking the first level of control, generally the easiest level of control - people widely go into debt for beautiful toys and joys.. The second way is to force people to go get a college degree, and thereby get into debt by having a stranglehold student loan placed on them, the third is buying a home and getting the mortgage to deal with. One is then compartmentalized and placed into the system of control by someone over one's actions, and one is then made predictable, when predictable everything now becomes statistically relevant. Other sub-levels are getting a disease, an accident, caught by force majur, forced to live under a tyrant and so forth.

    In the DARPA solicitation that I have been mentioning, these folks talk about how HOLLYWOOD has been cooped to create specific movies and videos which use the specific method of "Narrative Programming". Remember the Narrative programming means the creation of a spiritual-like drama in one's mind where one is so motivated, so moved that one plays that circuit over and over, and lives it. Look at Avatar, look at Starwars. The Darpa people specifically mentioned Starwars created a whole predictable and manipulative group. It started playing on some concepts about corporations, military baddies, resources being abused, and then showed how ONE PERSON could live it and be the "winner". It tossed in "eye-candy" to stimulate new circuit formation. It used ultimate methods of looking up to someone or something, then creating the shock and awe, then creating the substitution steps - the "reality" IS the programming method that "they" (the programmers who are effective) all use on the people who don't know that is what is happening to them is being shown as effective. Those in hollywood not using those methods create hum-drum losers.

    So the CIRCUIT is lain in effectively, visually, supported by word of mouth, by story telling, by getting folks to ROLE PLAY what is happening, by the after-market cult trade shows that happen to keep the stimulation going. Then a predictable pathway set is created. And it is known how to be played manipulated and used.

    Forum Member 3Generations pointed out, SWITCH the circuit by switching the media one is stimulating oneself with. Generally that can be done if it is a simple assault one is dealing with, or a simple circuit one is trying to correct. Each circuit is reinforced by brain hormones, some hormones of the brain are extreme opiates, and adrenaline like compounds which create massive addictive hooks in the body and nervous system to keep the program running. Drug and substance addictions are like that, the chemical neural issues are present as well as the psychological drama being run (the narrative circuit) that the drug or substance works to support the drama. Those feel good and intense pain situations keep the circuits highly charged.

    I met folks who used LSD to alter their realities so that they could "rewire themselves" into deluded belief systems, and create the neural pathways which allowed them to without the substance "live" the delusion (we could have an immense discussion on Terence McKenna and Timothy Leary, or even John Lilly here, but again the Forum would be overloaded by the dialogs resultant). For them the delusion (self created reality) was more effective more "real" than anything in the unaltered world. (Again another forum thread discussion about altered realities and should such be done to explore in).. The argument people put up usually is they should have a right to explore their own inner space without assault by others. Thing is DARPA IS about assaulting others space in order to WIN the battle. To them it's not about helping one evolve, its about winning at any cost, no matter what casualties happen, such is acceptable losses.

    I also met Extreme Muslim Radicals over in the Mideast and Africa during my travels. And I saw the circuits that Dr. Corman, the project leader is noted as having devoted himself to creating a database on those circuits so that the "powers that be" can know what specifically one is "stuck on" so that they can play it effectively and use level 1 indoctrination and mind alteration methods to win over the minds (and hearts) of the opponent.. (sigh).

    I have also met Extreme Corporate mouth drooling maggots some of whom run major corporations with an interesting profit motive, and I have seen the glassy glare in the eye they hold when they talk about making extreme profits at the expense of all "feeders" - (makes one wonder if the person across the table escaped from some asylum or should be in there..)

    So the ethics of control and for what purpose comes up again.

    Would you turn loose a method to neutralize bad control to those who know how to control? I saw in the past so called "teachers" say let them all have the methods, the good the dark, the bad the evil and let God sort it all out. Sounds like a very irresponsible teaching method eh?

    In your Lao-Tzu reference at the signature, to gain control over oneself means what? If there are neural circuits running one, obviously one needs to get those circuits out if one wants to be in control of oneself without a circuit directing one's life. What is the measure of Victory? Freedom of ? Freedom from ? Power to do ? Ability to hold one's space? Able to get through the day.. It depends on what's goals are right?

    Maybe it, in the beginning was getting out from under one's parent's or siblings gaze.

    Maybe it was getting out from other surveillance. Maybe it was getting out from under the never-ending credit card bills. It all depends. But the common denominator is Freedom to simply BE.

    One of the forum members reiterated just BE yourself. I point out, due to indoctrination, what one believes as ONESELF may not be that due to the immense programming that one gets while growing up. If one doesn't ever even have had that first feeling of just being, it may be hard to tell when one is just being.. Without examples one self can rely on, where is one? Believing some leader or guru, or teacher, or movie character, or actor? Or DARPA brainwave circuit buster and substitution program..

    So, back to counter-measures, the first thing it seems to me, would be to remove PROGRAMMING, narrative circuits running in there. There are numerous techniques for doing that, fast ones, slow ones, methods to help one become more self aware, and help one to determine PERSONAL PURPOSE and GOALS. So evaluate, and come up with a game plan.

    Really good programming methods work because PEOPLE believe they want them.

    The biggest fears people have is that they have to do things alone, without government support, without group support, without the security of the group to protect them. People ARE social, and they like to tell stories, and they like to believe them. It creates a stable base in order to move forward with some measure of certainty, no matter if the certainty has any measure in reality.

    The militaries play on that, say something like "become an INDIVIDUAL by being part of a strong (thug) group", be a robot in other words, accept your training follow orders and don't question your superior.

    What a unique programming method, talk about the group comrades created ! And if there is any measure of any individuality appear or still there, wait until boot camp and that is drilled out of one, in psiops 101 programming. Special forces are unique. Not only is one restructured, one is lead to believe how important one's group is, how important the mission is, and how important following the directions of one's superiors is. It is tight and long lasting. One of course goes through intense torture, intense challenges, intense training to absolutely guarantee that the circuits are PERMANENT and able to be removed by any form of deprogramming. EVER.. Spemper FI (semper fidelus in other words). It is important to note, that the belief system of those in power understand the power of the Narrative Circuit and how important it is for the plan to be implemented. Every marketer worth their Madison avenue training, every drill sarge every religious leader creating mass change knows this and uses this.

    Be a good robot, and you can think you are an individual robot but you are a cog in the motor where the ones on top play the games and u are the meat fodder pawns. A scientist easily can jump into that pawn system cause of the prestige they were lead to believe they would get (an ego narrative circuit), or be a subordinate PhD who has to pay back the loans to get that "status", the end result being the top dogs still control the game board.

    So remove the circuits and keep personality and define one's goals. That's the issue behind the counter measures. The techniques vary depending on the circuit lain in and active.

    If one is part of the radical group, how is one going to separate?

    Some groups say you will be killed if you try to separate. Every hear of those religious groups that hold that tenet? Those at the top know one cannot allow one of the members to achieve freedom or personal power by leaving, by being other than a member of the "group". The dropouts, the hippies of the '60's said drop out, turn on, tune out to separate. To know and not do in some cases became an issue.

    The system then remains stable as long as the game continues and the control gets ever more solidly ingrained. What would a counter-measure be for that level of Narrative programming, that you are killed if you leave the group? Interesting question to ask the Forum.

    The next method to find the countermeasuse is to analyze just what is the substance of the thought, chemically, electrically, where is it located, what keeps it intact, what keeps it circulating and re-stimulated so that it plays over and over..

    This is an identification step, the identification starts to map out the system, the mechanism. Many of these steps have been done. I accomplished a lot of this back in the early 80's when looking at methods to create neurally operated prosthetics. I also published something called the technique for sensory exteriorization using two way systems to interface between the brain and real world (active feedback). At that point is when DARPA hit me, 1983, to try to reveal the methods used to determine pathways, come up with the unique data pre-processing filter, allow for two way dialog between the equipment and the neural target (people wern't called people or subjects by these guys, they were simply "targets").

    Forum member 3Generations mentioned JOY is a good way to get into better circuits. Pick your joy and change it frequently. Don't stay stuck in any one pattern.

    If one can't do that by a using a simple meditation, then one can use some sort of tool as an assistive aid. One doesn't have to be reliant on tools, but at times when one wants to get cross country, taking a plane or driving may be better than walking.

    My discussion that Forum member Nora mentioned with the oracle of his Holiness Dali Lama dealt with a method to improve MEDITATION. In a personal meditation, if one has the proper training to accomplish the goal or goals of the meditation, one will look at steps at first to facilitate a clear body (good nutrition), clearing out programming (a clear mind), determining goals, and experimenting with different outcomes to create an effective way with dealing with the variables in reality in the outside world. The end result could be accomplishing the steps to get the goals actualized or one could simply end up spinning one's wheels thinking one is getting somewhere..

    If one wants to create a meditation to separate from the outside world that obviously can be done, and the escapism achieved will not necessarily be a way to work with others in a social system - one could become the hermit on the hill and maybe at times getting followers to sit at your feet to get your wisdom.. (sigh)

    So back to the question - what is the ideal goal then achieved in coming up with a counter-measure?

    I think this is where the group support system and group compassion and group humanity comes in - finding out WHAT the group and the individual feels is acceptable, and has the needed goals of getting survival to become optimal. What is optimal then?

    If one wanted just a personal method, that can be achieved, but in my experience group interaction provides for a social sustainability (oh boy I used that word..) and to be stewards of something important, it means coming up with ways to share it responsibly.

    I can get into the actual technology to defeat any neural programming, and achieve personal control over one's space. There is no question that it can be done, I have seen and researched and personally utilized this and tested this over the last 30 years. It is very interesting to work with it.

    What I have posted so far deals with the alarming facts that others are desirous of controlling others and justifying their reasons for doing such, and that they have immense power and money to do so. And that they are doing so and have been doing so for many years, and are increasing the level of control, create higher levels of insidiousness of the implementation methods. I am starting to point out through identifying the neural circuitry key encoding points, the events which create these circuits, how one can come up with solutions with and without equipment to take back control of these circuits. I can get into some technology soon enough in another thread.

    The reality I have pointed out in other posts, is the planetary system and life is about abundance and the most useful method of dealing with effective use of abundance and sustaining life is through good stewardship, not aberrant fear based control. The mindsets of the controllers then are where the mindfield lies.

    (more to come) I believe you will see COUNTER-MEASURES are going to be mentioned on the micro and macro scales across the board, and that is the next logical solution that consciousness is looking at.

    Bob
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