5th September 2013 14:36
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The occult vs Esoteric teachings
I am going to start creating more and more threads as time goes on. I do a lot of writing at another forum I am a moderator at but I have been pretty silent here. I actually was a lurker for many years and only read before I decided to make an account but even after that I still didn't post much. I am being asked to lose my anonymity over the next year or so and before doing so there are some thing I want to write about here. I talk from direct experience, not from someone who has read a book. I have a feeling a lot of my experiences are universal for many people here and it is my hopes that these writings can help as a map to those that seem stuck or confused at times. I don't claim to be a teacher or someone with the answers at all but I have had some pretty amazing experiences that I do believe can help others, it is with this motive I share.
Today I wanted to talk about the difference between the Occult and Esoteric studies. I would like to point out, these definitions are of my own. You may not find the same meaning of these two words if you read about them somewhere else. But these words have always confused me as they mean relatively the same thing. The occult means "hidden" or secret. It is the secret teachings of the paranormal, rather than a material science that can be measured. Esoteric means "within" and describes a set of ideas/teachings that are preserved or understood by a small group of those specially initiated. Which for me for a long time, those two words meant the same thing. It just seemed like people were talking about and describing the same things, but using different words. I always knew the occult powers lied within, so isn't that a set of ideas/teachings that are preserved or understood by a small group of those specially initiated? But over the past 3 years or so I was shown the difference through experience. It was a long road of learning, studying and then being tested.
Quickly, I would just like to give a little background information. About 3 years ago I got heavy into the occult, it was just the direction my path brought me in. I was reading everything I could on the Golden Dawn, OTO, Crowley, Israel Regardie and so on. I am a shaman so I know magic is real, that was never needed to be proven to me. I was smart though, I knew this stuff was real so I would only let me self "learn" about it, it was never put into use. I wanted to make sure I understood everything I was doing before I started doing anything, this is a major mistake taken by most that study the occult and magic. Its like searching for a gas leak with a lit candle. After a couple of years I felt like I understood it enough to start putting it into use, after about a week into this during one of the rituals my higher self came to me. I have had access to my higher self throughout my whole adult life, it drops in at times and guides me. It basically told me that I needed to learn how these things worked so I could understand how my world was manipulated, but I was never intended to actually use it. I was informed that this could lead to me "switching sides" and to back away from implementing anything I had learned. This was rather frustrating as I learned so much and I felt like I was ready. My mind was brainwashed thinking that Crowley and these people were pure at heart and that the world just didn't understand their teachings, how I was so wrong.
As time went on I started to realize that these occult powers were actually powers we all have. We can take the short cut and use the occult methods of getting at them or we can grow into them naturally as we were supposed to. One inevitably leads to imbalance, the other balance. I had the realization this was the difference between the occult and esoteric. I like to think of it as a video game metaphor. At certain levels of the game, certain things are unlocked. At level 15 you can become telepathic, at level 20 you may unlock telekinesis. But you have to play each level up to that level like every other player to unlock those things. The occult method are those that are not at those levels yet and are using cheat codes to unlock those levels to be able to play them earlier than they were supposed to. The problem with this is they have never played all the levels earlier so they never work out their jealousy, greed, power, lust and so on. Now these people have access to these powers but wield them not from a perspective of wisdom but from their greed or jealousy, ect. This creates the world we see today. These people may have money and power, but they are so imbalanced that it must come at the price of torture to the spiritual and emotional self. I can promise you they are tormented with fears, insecurities, anxieties and so forth. They might have everything material, but they are in a mental jail of their own.
To make a long story short, the occult and esoteric powers are the same. It just matters how you get at them and unlock them. One method is natural and allows you to progress through the levels of the game as you should, the other is a cheat code designed to be able to access levels prematurely. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I think once anyone gets to this level and understanding, they will be tested on which path they will take, the occult or esoteric. Will you pick the short cut or will you do the work needed to progress as you should? We will all be given this choice, which path you take is up to you. These tests might manifest in different ways as they did for me, but they are all part of the game and will be there at the appropriate level waiting, I promise. One of the final tests for me was the whole selling of your soul thing. After I learned what I needed to and made my stance, the creator of this reality who is not the God of love came to me and tried to make a deal with me about my soul and this reality. I would like to save that for another thread as I think this is a very real issue that all will come to at some point. The deal for the soul is their last ditch effort to claim you as theirs as they are afraid of what you are about to become. It is the deal of deals.....
In divine friendship,
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5th September 2013 15:03
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