Are New Agers Under Hypnosis and Have the Dark Forces Compromised the Light Workers?

[vilcabamba]

New Agers - Please wake up. We are being told by new age gurus that everything is great and the ascension is here. But in reality we are about to go into WWIII and this place is getting darker by the month. People are suffering all over the world, no one is stopping the chemtrails or stopping the poisoning of our foods. Why do new agers believe that they are winning??? And that everything is great.

Have the new agers been mind programmed by the dark forces to believe that the whole work of light workers is to ascend from the planet that they came to ..to help out? Light workers, why would we volunteer to come here if we thought the main focus of our work was to just leave the place we volunteered to help. This concern is being made by light workers who see that the channeled information over the past couple of years have all failed to come true. We don't see the bankers being arrested, we don't see mass awakening. It may be time for all of us to reconsider our goals of why we came here to help. It may be time to strategize how we can more effectively wake up the masses. If we end up in WWIII as Obama is trying to do right now - it's game over.

It's time to help spread the word all over the internet like wild fire about the truth. There are millions of light workers sent here by the Pleaidians who still have not been woken up. Time to get to work. Jesus didn't come here to work on only ascending out of here, he whipped some arse and it's time for us to get to work to peacefully get working to wake up the sleepers for more help. We will ascend, but we need to get our jobs done first. You dont get rewarded for a job without doing the work first! You can't get paid without doing your job. It's time for lightworkers to start working harder at spreading information all over the internet to wake up the sleeping people and concentrate less right now on their own 'reward". Jesus was not worried about ascending back into the higher realms after he started whipping the "money changers" . He did his job, and we need to start working more to do ours instead of listening to chanelers who are telling us that our job is done, while we move into WWIII. Something just isn't right here.

In this video below, Ari speaks about the infiltration of the dark forces that have created a hypnosis within the light forces and that has compromised our effectiveness. Many spiritual leaders and teachers are disseminating information that ultimately create a false sense of everything being in "Divine Order". This false sense of security has made many of us complacent and indifferent to a planet, who's light is diminishing, as an infestation grows.

The reason we see the escalation of events happening in the world is our lack of engagement in creating Solutions. A plan of action is presented to allow all the Spiritual Community to Unite and become Fully engaged in changing things around.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/shatter...m-the-solution

[shadowstalker]

Haven't you noticed:
The reason things seem to be getting worse is because when ever more ppl wake up and become aware by the thousands tptb start telling folks that war is coming.
it's all a head game a mind game to keep us questioning and giving up and wonder about the future...

The more folks wake up.
the more GMO's the shove down out throats.

The more folks protest:
The less news about it.

The more folks make any positive statements:
The more crap (fear porn) goes on youtube and mainstream media.

Do you see the pattern..
We are winning.
For each person that wakes up the bigger the guns they point, it show they are in fear, that's what bullies do...

[ghostrider]

exactly , the world is the way it is because WE have allowed it to be so ... no more waiting for someone else to change it , no ET's are coming, no saviour, no devil, it's as it always has been , IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR OUR PLANET AND EACH OTHER ...THIS GARDEN OF EDEN BELONGS TO US ...

[S-L]

I think the OP raises many valid concerns. Here's a quote worth considering:

"People who claim to be psychic, to be clairvoyant, to have unique and special powers—these people are especially vulnerable to manipulation from beyond. And because they give themselves such high rank in the spiritual hierarchy, and because they consider themselves to be so unique among human beings, and because they seek recognition and approval for their ideas, these people will be very, very good candidates for manipulation and can well fall in with the Intervention, in all of its manifestations. Willing now to serve a greater power and believing that they are endowed to do so, they assign themselves the role of emissaries." -- Discerning False Messengers

[wobbegong]

Posted by shadowstalker (here)
Haven't you noticed:
The reason things seem to be getting worse is because when ever more ppl wake up and become aware by the thousands tptb start telling folks that war is coming.
it's all a head game a mind game to keep us questioning and giving up and wonder about the future...

The more folks wake up.
the more GMO's the shove down out throats.

The more folks protest:
The less news about it.

The more folks make any positive statements:
The more crap (fear porn) goes on youtube and mainstream media.

Do you see the pattern..
We are winning.
For each person that wakes up the bigger the guns they point, it show they are in fear, that's what bullies do...

I am with you shadowstalker. The only thing I would modify is: "We are winning."
At this stage I would say: "We can win."
So not too far apart from you, but yes, you mention "the pattern"...that is so important: we must let them know that we are aware of the pattern.

[MargueriteBee]

Are we supposed to win. What if this world is exactly the way it is meant to be?

[araucaria]

You might want to ask greybeard, as a trained hypnotherapist, if it is more usual to talk about hypnosis when one is hypnotized or when one is fully awake.

[Billy]

Posted by vilcabamba (here)
New Agers - Please wake up. We are being told by new age gurus that everything is great and the ascension is here.

I agree and sad to say that this is the case for many, I am pleased to say not here on Avalon. Those who follow this belief are not in balance. This is an unbalanced positive belief.

Posted by vilcabamba (here)
But in reality we are about to go into WWIII and this place is getting darker by the month. People are suffering all over the world, no one is stopping the chemtrails or stopping the poisoning of our foods. Why do new agers believe that they are winning??? And that everything is great.

Avalon is very awake and aware that the battle is not won and continues.

Posted by vilcabamba (here)
Have the new agers been mind programmed by the dark forces to believe that the whole work of light workers is to ascend from the planet that they came to ..to help out? Light workers, why would we volunteer to come here if we thought the main focus of our work was to just leave the place we volunteered to help. This concern is being made by light workers who see that the channeled information over the past couple of years have all failed to come true. We don't see the bankers being arrested, we don't see mass awakening. It may be time for all of us to reconsider our goals of why we came here to help. It may be time to strategize how we can more effectively wake up the masses. If we end up in WWIII as Obama is trying to do right now - it's game over.

This is true, But this is old news for most here.

Posted by vilcabamba (here)
It's time to help spread the word all over the internet like wild fire about the truth. There are millions of light workers sent here by the Pleaidians who still have not been woken up. Time to get to work. Jesus didn't come here to work on only ascending out of here, he whipped some arse and it's time for us to get to work to peacefully get working to wake up the sleepers for more help. We will ascend,

I do not agree that we will ever ascend. I believe we are here to raise the frequency and energy field within ourselves and assist mother earth to transcend into a less density planet. When Mother Earth becomes less dense we stay with her and go with her.

Posted by vilcabamba (here)
but we need to get our jobs done first.

Yes, The Mission is work in progress.

Peace


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[Fred Steeves]

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
Are we supposed to win. What if this world is exactly the way it is meant to be?

Exactly MargueriteBee! I see this "winning", "winning the war" type of mindset, as traveling a very dangerous and precarious road.

Personally speaking, I'm not out to win anything. Attaining clarity of Mind and Spirit will do for now, the rest will take care of itself accordingly.

[greybeard]

Under Consciousness - (loaded 12 July 2013) [watch this programme]
Other - 'So, Now We Are Awake, Are We Going To Save The Planet?' with Elisabet Sahtouris, Will Pye and Jeff Warren. Moderated by Iain and Renate McNay.
There is often a reluctance for those who have attained a level of awakening to be interested in worldly concerns. The planet is rapidly approaching a man-made crisis. Do we care? What does being awake mean on a practical basis when it comes to our custodianship of the planet?

You will find it on this link--- it may be helpful.
http://www.conscious.tv/

[Anchor]

I hate the term "new agers" about as much as I hate the idea of a WWIII.

Hopefully I won't have to suffer either

[greybeard]

Posted by Anchor (here)
I hate the term "new agers" about as much as I hate the idea of a WWIII.

Hopefully I won't have to suffer either

Yes the moment others are seen a separate--different --the enemy-- the present situation continues.
The well know definition of madness--- "Doing the same thing and expecting different results"
The doing comes from thinking.
We have to change our perception if we want to change our way of being in this world.
No one could accuse Gandhi of no action but it was non violent action.
His statement " Be the change you want to see" is all powerful.
As long as there is duality there will be "Us and them" and the situation will remain unchanged.
People have tried for millennium to change the balance of power without using spiritual principals.
It has not worked.
My advice to me is on my signature--- I dont always succeed.

Chris

[Prodigal Son]

As I just posted on the Good News thread......

Brzezinski Admits: "Worldwide Resistance" Is Derailing the New World Order

And aside from that, you may very well find some much-needed encouragement from this article that vividly demonstrates the great difference in the worldwide awakening at this moment as compared to just a few short years ago when the US was illegally invading Iraq....

Veterans Today: 35 Things the Ruling Cabal Does Not Want You to Know

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09...t-you-to-know/

[Anchor]

Posted by greybeard (here)
As long as there is duality there will be "Us and them" and the situation will remain unchanged.

Exactly, as soon as one gets an inkling of an idea that our true nature transcends that duality, then one realizes one is responsible and must act accordingly.

It is a personal thing and cannot easily be explained.

[gittarpikk]

I have been feeling the same for about a month now.... like we are getting more ready for that final axe than anything truely positive.... but I am aware of a LOT of things going on just beneath the surface that are somewhat missed in alternative news and nothing from the MSN....quite disheartening when you expect to see much more..

But....


I'm not a 'Bible' person as there are waaaay too many religious text and historical documentation written in an era that knew nothing of space travel, climate change, a car....you get the point... to place my beliefs within one book as so many have done....

but.....

there was some verse I remember that applied to the Biblical era 'now' moment...and was foretold of the things that were prophesied (our now moments)

"Stand back and Behold the hand of the Lord"...if I got that right.

I truly think we are seeing the absolute frustration of the human species...and the show is about to begin.....any second now (yep , that close)

.....and may the Force be with us is this is not so....

[Sunny-side-up]

New agers? wasen't that the 60's 70's 80's ?

great replies all that have come befor mine BTW
I started this reply ages ago lol, so forgive me please if you have said the same or if I have lost my point with my rant, thx

We us you I (Weusyoui), all light-workers and beings attuned and those aspiring to be light-aid-ers, here and now have been doing what we came here for many years, To see, to feel and to keep open and widen the gate/door/window the channel for the light to keep coming through. We have been doing that really well, all is good if you keep the faith and the channel open!

This coming war is going to happen in one form or another.
Beings who are still asleep now will awake in mass.
Young beings who are awake and awakening are the ones who are tuning in through the gate, they are the ones crashing through who will burst the dark even to the point of re aligning darkened beings, controlled beings, back to the light.

She ' Ari' says;
'Self sedating, self medicating ourselves with Feel good fluffed up embellished information'...
We all have to self medicate what is wrong with that?

It is Ari who is stumbling now, losing the path, underestimating the continuation of Light energies of the flow, the flow we are marinating as we are..

War will happen WWIII is on us, WE HAVE FORCED THIS, We, this was part or a path that would happen because of our action and energies. We have forced the contrast of Light-n-Dark, what did you think the outcome was going to be if WE FORCE ?...

Now as for the Planet that we call ours, well it's not..
It is it's self, a Conscious Planetary Entity,
It is here and it has held back it's own evolution for the sake of our evolution..
The planet it's self is an entity a life/being in it's own right and it is on a mission as well,
it will live out it's time,
evolve on and so will we...

Ari herself has been compromised, Ari has isolated her self from the whole of humanities, Ari calls sleepers ZOMBIES, zombies to fight!... Ari
is not in tune, she is also, in my view very contrasending (sorry spelling? can't for the life of me spell that word!) to a great portion of humanity....

We are all connected, we at the moment can't all be awake at once, not quite yet!
It is the PTB that will give the full wake up call, the time for all to wake and set paths attuned to their own vibrations, either in the Light or in the dark.
Wake up to this and realise this; there are still many dark sleepers yet to wake and find their paths!!!!
So keep to yours, keep the faith..

Ari has lost sight of connected power, we talk, we see and find new angles to this life we are experiencing, it is that, that is the power, not labelling others who we think we see are different to our self's and not on the right path or not yet activated. Ari says things like 'Sleepers' 'Zombies' 'we in our stupors' Well do we have the power that I've heard all here praise, I still believe so, I still have faith!

We can determine if we have been infected, we must have been to be here in this Material Matrix!!! An antidote is to be infected, this way you can see what you are against, and so awake and climb over it.
I say; did you have faith in your self? did you have faith in your mission? did/do you really know your mission?
Well one thing I'm sure of is
'Keep in the flow of your higher self and the faith',
keep your self open and golden and the mission will be so!

Ari says of the PTB/Dark forces that they stand united, with the same intent, They, they, They and that is why they are strong, well arn't we? ok we don't have dark force material weapons, we don't because we are true energies of Light , it our end game weapon.

I still stand strong by my same intent, united and in and faith..
All is fanning the FIRE, we are, the PTB are!
It's inevitable, but remember we are; after all
'Infinite beings':
Never-ending beings , Unlimited beings, Immeasurable beings, Inestimable, soon to be truly Unbounded and Boundless beings the PTB, the dark ones are not. They distort and corrupt energies to their ends, that is wrong and in the end their WEAKNESS, they are WEAK, the Light/WE will become so bright that in our realm not even shadows can be found!


Ari say's 'Why are we not effective? she says we think we are effective! again In our little dream world!' DREAM WORLD? well that is where our powers of LIGHT manifest! isn't it ? But there again she speaks in belittling words! Oh MY she then says' if you then won't to poke your little head out of that hole you will see, Its definitely not ineffective!!
She says things like 'by now we should be spiritually fit'? so now that we are fit lets get our Light forces to unite! step up businessmen and those who have had leadership skill to start forming committees' well many are! look at Bill and his back ground in life!
But she says Commitites, sounds like old world dark talk to me!
She then says we need to focus, like the dark forces do and use our special skills to the fight as weapons, Well I'm not following the dark side and it's ways thank you very much, in my mind it's a enlighten spiritual time we are in,
that's the golden end result!
not all the Material realm illusion crap she if fighting for, that's the dark side isn't it?

So in my higher speaking I say don't panic, be boundless beings and Keep FAITH,
Through out the darkness keep the faith and the LIGHT for those who yet will see or find, for those who are coming, this is our path at the moment as I see it!!!

WOW vilcabamba great post!
And WOW vilcabamba you have energised me here with your this Vid posting
On Youtube just look at the other peoples comments of her and here negative speech!!!

Stay in tune with higher self, the call will come!

[Rosieposie]

For all the new age perception being out of balance I do think there was a time and a place and all things play a role. That thought process of a new age etc got people thinking about what sort of world we really want, got people feeling good things about a potential future and being open minded. And I know for myself it played a role in protecting all the light and love I had coming in as a child and keeping it from being squashed out of me as I grew into adulthood, it meant that there were open minded loving people around who were comfortable with my experiences, that allowed my quirks which if not for the new age movement may not have been so prevalent. So although it is not accurate and I think we have outgrown it all largely and they are probably just trying to hang onto what used to be a great moving energy for them I respect the role that it has played. Currently it is about bringing truths to the surface and awakening but the underlying faith in the potential for a good future needs to be our guiding light to keep us moving forward towards it without getting stuck in the bog.

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by Rosieposie (here)
For all the new age perception being out of balance I do think there was a time and a place and all things play a role. That thought process of a new age etc got people thinking about what sort of world we really want, got people feeling good things about a potential future and being open minded. And I know for myself it played a role in protecting all the light and love I had coming in as a child and keeping it from being squashed out of me as I grew into adulthood, it meant that there were open minded loving people around who were comfortable with my experiences, that allowed my quirks which if not for the new age movement may not have been so prevalent. So although it is not accurate and I think we have outgrown it all largely and they are probably just trying to hang onto what used to be a great moving energy for them I respect the role that it has played. Currently it is about bringing truths to the surface and awakening but the underlying faith in the potential for a good future needs to be our guiding light to keep us moving forward towards it without getting stuck in the bog.

Yes so well said Rosieposie

[GaelVictor]

I think new agers are totally being taken over by the dark side, i mean, you can tell by the way they act;

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iOavbyDKSi0

couldn't resist

[ruthy]

I think, and this is my personal opinion, but I think that this is all supposed to happen. In order for people to fully wake up, they need a shock to their system. Something that will affect us all. WWIII, well we know we have been dancing around this threat, and the US policing the world could only go on for so long. Israel being seen as a victim could only go on for so long. More and more people are waking up, I will testify to that. Just in my own circle of friends, people talking about Syria and how this is wrong. Now we have enlisted men and women standing up and saying that they didn't join the military for this.

I agree with other peoples posts on here, that the more we wake up, the louder they will make noise to try to cover us up- out of fear!

There is more at stake here than oil. This is not only about getting more of a natural resource. Again, this is my opinion...but did you notice that every single area where our military is going into, is also a site of historical significance as the origin of our species? They want Iran badly...and to get to Iran they are going through Syria, to lure them into a fight. Because to all out attack Iran would just be too obvious, and Iran wasn't taking their bait. Iraq was the cradle of civilization, we robbed their museums of unknown artifacts. We went into afghanistan. We control Israel. We want Iran, where Eden was supposed to have originated. I think there is something greater at stake than oil here. They are rushing and pushing and getting downright reckless. They don't CARE if the world is against their motives...they don't care if their allies are starting to say, hey this is not right...they are going full force no matter what to get to something at a certain time.

Every read Zacharia Sitchin's books?? I believe that we are descendants of a race that MADE us..not a god, not a natural evolution, but we were a lab experiment. There were bases here, there were space ports here, and all of these ancient stories from the Sumerians speak of these locations, and basically drew a map to where they still are. There is one in Israel...there is one in Iraq and there is one in Iran. Try reading some of Sitchins work, it is fascinating. What I don't understand is why people think these ancient civilizations wrote things for amusement! As nice stories? Writing was sacred. Writing was only something that the top educated people could do. They didn't write something as an anecdote. They wrote because they wanted something recorded that they felt was so important to pass on. They wrote facts, not fiction. They wrote what they saw, not what they imagined.

I think overall that events are unfolding as they should. You can't make a species evolve, you can't force them into a higher consciousness. They need a jolt they need a trigger. Carlos Castenada's books speaking with the brujo don juan, said, the triggers to higher consciousness to SEE the world to SEE our true reality comes easiest in moments of great pain and fear. They only used power plants for people they wanted to quickly get into this training, so that eventually they could remember and do it without them. Most brujos do not like to use powerplants because they are aware of their negative health affects on the brain and body. Dreaming exercises are considered the BEST way to learn to see the world. By controlling our dreams, by having OBE's we are opening ourselves up to these different realms. Our pineal gland is sacred. We are special because of this. We have untold capabilities as humans. We can become light. The hopi believe that when the destruction comes, that they will be taken to a different realm because they fullfilled their promise to their creator. They have accepted that destruction will come. They know that they will rise above it..not as they are, but as a higher consciousness, as beings of light.

I see everything that is happening around us, and I see its pace quickening, like a stampede or a wild fire. It's consuming everything in its path. All we can do is step out of it's path. We can't save everyone. We can only try to save those around us and even at times that is very frustrating. The more you tell people the truth, the more they stick to their guns, ...something that goes against what they have believed since birth is interpreted as a threat to them. That they were wrong, that what they consider "safe" and "known" are in fact in error. They will fight you hard to resist your information while holding tighter to what they believe to be true. For these people, they won't wake up till the very last minute. Hopefully, I really hope, because these people are some of my friends and my family..i hope that they wake up in time.