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    Default Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

    Cristian posted a great thread on Understanding Evil, and truth4me added a video on time travel presented by Philip Corso Jr. It led me immediately to youtube to find more footage of Philip Corso Jr, but I really don't want to dilute Cristian's important thread. But for those interested in what Philip Corso Jr has to say, here is a 2-hr presentation by the man:


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    Default Re: Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

    I read his father's book, "The Day After Roswell" and found it so enjoyable. Philip Corso went into great detail about his responsibility to put together the team that reverse-engineered the UFO and he identifies all the people involved. It was a very credible account of what took place after the crash at Roswell.

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    Here is Part 1 of the presentation where truth4me's clip came from:

    Xcon 2004 - Philip Corso, Jr - The Legacy of Colonel Philip J. Corso

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    I beg to differ about the concept of time, time is an illusion ... some of us understand it very well ... if the earth stops turning the sun stays in one place , how would you know what time it is ??? is it day or night ??? time is an illusion ... there is the forever right now , everything just evolves with the illusion of moving into the future ...
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    Thanks to the OP I'm happy you posted it.

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    I beg to differ about the concept of time, time is an illusion ... some of us understand it very well ... if the earth stops turning the sun stays in one place , how would you know what time it is ??? is it day or night ??? time is an illusion ... there is the forever right now , everything just evolves with the illusion of moving into the future ...
    No disrespect ghostrider, after all this is a common meme, but it doesn't appear (to me) to make any practical sense.

    If this were true, and there is no time, then what is it that prevents you or I from being able to physically meet with people like Thomas Edison, or Abraham Lincoln? How can events transpire, lives begin and end, if there is only 'now'?

    Whenever there is talk of time as an illusion, it always seems to begin and end from a philosophical standpoint, and never really addresses the issues which seem to conflict with common sense. By all means, I would like to understand how this idea can coincide with logic, if this is something that anyone here would care to tackle.
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    Default Re: Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

    Thanks for posting this! I will start listening to it tonight. The short clip in the other thread raised many questions, so maybe this one will make more sense!

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    Default Re: Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

    Quote Posted by i_am_becoming (here)
    Here is Part 1 of the presentation where truth4me's clip came from:

    Xcon 2004 - Philip Corso, Jr - The Legacy of Colonel Philip J. Corso
    Whoa, Philip Jr. makes a huge mistake at around 28:11. He is asked about crop circles, and states that his father 'died before crop circles'. Even if his father did in fact die before they became 'mainstream' (not sure about the chronology of that phenomenon myself), that is simply not true, as clearly evidenced here by the words of Philip Sr. himself (mentioned at the very beginning);



    Possibly just an honest mistake, but it's strange to me that I would be more aware of his father's interviews than him...
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    Default Re: Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

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    Watched the videos, and I'd be very interested to see more if anyone can find them. As best I know, he only gave a small handful of presentations, but there may well be others I don't know about.

    Here's the big unanswered question for me:
    • If (as Philip Corso Jr claims) the Roswell crash was a 'gift' from the future (sent back in time to 1947 by us humans from 2032, thereby creating a new time loop each time it happens) -- how did this all start?
    Notes out of interest:
    • It's very real for me that the Philadelphia Experiment -- which spawned the various Montauk Projects -- were experiments in time as well as in space. (The two are inseparable in a fundamental structural sense.)
    • Dan Burisch stated that the Roswell craft was a time travel craft from the future, containing future humans -- but said (as I recall) they were from 24,000 years in to the future. Not from 2032.
    • Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' said exactly the same thing as Dan Burisch, but thought (although he was not sure of the exact date) they were from 18,000 years in the future. See the very interesting section called 'Roswell' on this Camelot page.
    • This diagram may be of interest, drawn by William 'Bill' McDonald, who Corso stated made the artist's impression that he shows:

    (Higher resolution image here)

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    See also this interesting thread:

    Possible original photo of the Roswell craft

    The photo in question (which was discussed on the thread, with much more info as well) is this one on the bottom left. Note that this is precisely the same spot described by Bill McDonald in the graphic in the post above.

    It's clear that the object in the old photo isn't a perfect match for the craft McDonald drew, but I have to say I find it very interesting nonetheless.


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    Do you see a similarity between this craft drawn by William Louis McDonald :



    and the German Lippisch P.13b below ?



    Which also looks like Kaufmann’s drawing :

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    Default Re: Philip Corso Jr's Presentations on Roswell, time travel, and more

    I have been, purely coincidentally, listening to these videos and Linda Moulton-Howe, on the same / similar subject matter.

    The story of who we are and where we come from is becoming clearer for me; the essence is somewhere in between all this:

    Animal mutilations, time travel, the harsh environment of space, EBE's, Dan Burisch, Arthur Neumann, Pete Peterson, Corso, pseudo-political agendas masking commercial power interests, religion, environmental issues, mankind's instincts to survive, etc.

    We are likely an experiment to serve a redundant purpose, not dissimilar to the requirement for EBE's. Our distinguishing and (unexpected) characteristic is our spirit.

    Common sense curation of each other and our planet is perhaps our judgement day.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Here's the big unanswered question for me:

    [LIST][*]If (as Philip Corso Jr claims) the Roswell crash was a 'gift' from the future (sent back in time to 1947 by us humans from 2032, thereby creating a new time loop each time it happens) -- how did this all start?
    Bill, this was the problem I was driving at below. I didn't have the 2032 date, but suggested 'possibly some time soon':

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Philip Corso Jr talks about time travel in this interesting video.......

    Just for the record: I find Philip Corso Jr's presentations fascinating and credible. The ones I have archived report on what his well-known father (who wrote The Day After Roswell) never spoke of publicly when he was alive.

    I've only heard two of Philip Corso Jr's talks, and I'd very much appreciate links to any more if they exist.
    I think he is saying we don’t need to know more, we need to know less!

    Time travel means free energy. You build a UFO with materials back-engineered from the UFO you sent back in time to 1947. When did you send it back? Possibly sometime soon. When were your computer chips invented? According to this circular scenario, they weren’t.

    Where do we go from here? Perhaps we need to smash that time machine.


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    What has always been my question is 'why do we/or they, need a machine/ship to move between densities? It seems counter productive. Maybe even locking in the matrix control loop. It suggests to me that all that will happen is to prolong the expiry of whatever perceptual controls that the matrix has in place.

    I still feel, and no one so far has convinced me otherwise, that the great year and the grand cycles are moving into an energetic place where 'time' for the evil monolith is drawing to a close, hence the exponential attack on the collective psyche.

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    I suppose both can be correct, had we not had the crash the time travelers could have been 24,000 years in the future. After the crash, with some new technology that future came much closer.
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    Quote Posted by Gardener (here)
    I suppose both can be correct, had we not had the crash the time travelers could have been 24,000 years in the future. After the crash, with some new technology that future came much closer.
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    Quote Dan Burisch stated that the Roswell craft was a time travel craft from the future, containing future humans -- but said (as I recall) they were from 24,000 years in to the future. Not from 2032.
    Interesting thought, Gardener, but that would imply that the J-Rods evolved from presentday human form within a matter of a few decades, and from the standpoint of the present moment, are well on their way.


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    That needn't be a sticking point araucaria, in a non linear universe the future is fluid, otherwise the idea of jumping timelines wouldn't happen. Its quite a long time since I listened to Dan Burisch so I may revisit. Dans testimony has a lot of sincerity behind it, as has Arthurs, so we cannot discount milab effects.
    Quote Interesting thought, Gardener, but that would imply that the J-Rods evolved from presentday human form within a matter of a few decades, and from the standpoint of the present moment, are well on their way.
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    Quote Posted by Gardener (here)
    What has always been my question is 'why do we/or they, need a machine/ship to move between densities? It seems counter productive. Maybe even locking in the matrix control loop. It suggests to me that all that will happen is to prolong the expiry of whatever perceptual controls that the matrix has in place.

    I still feel, and no one so far has convinced me otherwise, that the great year and the grand cycles are moving into an energetic place where 'time' for the evil monolith is drawing to a close, hence the exponential attack on the collective psyche.

    Let's hope it's drawing to a close! Yes, this whole lop here wouldn't get to the other end for 19 more years (if 2032 is correct). So instead of a loop, I think the whole timeline has shifted several times since then. I mean let's hope we don't have to endure this nonsense until 2032 when someone builds this ship! I have tried several times to get through this video, and I just don't think I am going to be able to do it.

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    Perhaps, The time loop was done to mismatch all prediction data available, in terms of time space. A disruption on the time and space line means that all seers, wizards and so on will miscalculate any predictable outcome. It has been done before. Interesting to know that Philip Corso make a remark as a benevolent intervention which may be if you take in account my supposition. Well, I hope I maybe clear enough in my point or shall I need to elaborate more.

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    Any more thoughts on the track shifting time travel ?

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