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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Quote Posted by Rahkyt (here)
    Sometimes our definitions of toxic differ from others.

    Sometimes people that are toxic to some, are not toxic to others.

    Sometimes, we perceive people according to our own preconceptions and intentions, which take our interactions with them down prescribed and limited pathways, with the outcome being inevitable.

    Then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people live up to our low expectations of them, as we've guided them all the way down the primrose path to their own destruction.

    I couldn't agree more with the above. Thanks. I'm sorry for wasting bandwidth but I had to reply to this for personal reasons.
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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Thank you for sharing this experience Bill. I had tears in my eyes by the time I was done reading it, from both the comedy and the tenderness. Humanity can be so beautiful.
    Last edited by Innocent Warrior; 18th November 2014 at 02:56.
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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Wow, this was a brilliant story...and it came just at the right time. (But, of course!)
    I have just been sat here crying my eyes out before reading this as I had an epiphany about my past relationship, and how the negative things that happened during that time have taught me so much!
    Thank you Bill.
    Love and light x

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    i hope Maurice will learn something from this

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Lovely story. Though, a, "sound geezer" is much more than just an "okay person", in my opinion.

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Bill, I just was reading this beautiful post and again, for the 2nd time it brought tears to my eyes!

    This is such a valuable lesson for us all and very worthy of a bump!

    Peace,
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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Brought tears to my eyes.

    This is why the human race matters in the Universe.

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Sometimes people expect other people to treat them a certain way. If they have had a traumatic childhood they expect the same as adults and act out. When they act out that's when other people react back in a negative way. Sometimes its just braking the negativity cycle and by seeing people who trust and show respect for him his views then changed to break the cycle xx you changed that mans life because you showed respect for him when nobody else would xx

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    This story reminds me of my dad so much. Would be what he would do. His kind patience and intuitive insight on other persons that some people just don't see.
    "Wait" a word my dad used to say all the time. And "patience"
    Giving of yourself, your time and patience to allow this man to open himself to people around him to see the real man inside. The one crying for help that no one else could see.
    I'm sure this man has had people talk to him to try to change him. And ridiculed and chastised, but all unsuccessful. Maybe he just wasn't ready, or didn't have someone willing to listen to him instead.
    Thank you Bill for the story and for allowing this man the time and patience to change himself.
    As they say, You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. But the wise man who has patience, would "Wait" and eventually with quiet patience, he will partake of the water!

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    Every time I read the OP, I think of how wounded that man must have been inside, and when the girl got wounded outside (her ankle), his wounded inside found its match, and a way to express itself in a way that was pure love.

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    Default Re: The story of an epiphany. Should a toxic person leave a group, or hang in there and change their life?

    "As God is Love: every kindness to another is a little Death in the Divine Image, nor can Man exist but by Brotherhood."
    -William Blake

    Beautiful OP, Bill. I had not read it before today.


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