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    Default Is Big Pharma Ready to Cash in on Natural Healing Agents Like Honey

    I am convinced that when man bio-engineers, use technology on, or genetically modifies virtually anything from nature the long term consequences will not be good.

    Most people just make the assumption that technology and science has found a way to make our lives better, we should proceed with a great deal of caution and skepticism when the media reports that a natural substance has been improved by science.

    We should be wary of a government and a medical establishment that will not recognize something as a natural healing agent but will recognized the the same thing when it has been bio-engineered or genetically modified.

    Look what they are doing to honey.


    A new honey product known as Surgihoney is being heralded as an amazing new product with shocking capabilities. The “bio-engineered” super-honey product can be used to treat wounds, ulcers, and MRSA in a matter of days. The report reads as if something never seen before has been newly discovered. But the fact is, the health benefits of honey have always proven the substance to be a potent healer.

    “It will revolutionize wound care around the world,” says Dr. Matthew Dryden, a consulting microbiologist at the Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. “I have conducted numerous laboratory tests and compared it with honeys from around the world. I found Surgihoney better for treating every type of bug. So for the past year I have been using it on patients and the results have been amazing.”

    Surgihoney is the brain child of Ian Staples, a business man who was previously in the motor parts industry. Apparently, Staples purchased an organic farm in Chile, added beehives and then hired researchers to identify the health elements within.

    The product is stored in 10 gram sachets and though it has been licensed by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority in England, it is not yet available for commercial sale.

    It isn’t clear what Staples’ scientists have done to the honey to make it any better than natural honey, only that it’s been “bio-engineered.” Looking at prior honey research, however, there seems to be no reason for messing with what wasn’t broken. Honey was already a healer, known for speeding wound recovery and killing MRSA. Manuka honey in particular is backed with piles of research on its ability to kill strep and other viruses.

    There are some medical treatments and cures that have been around for centuries—they were here before Big Pharma and conventional medicine and should remain here long after. And while the mainstream medical industry has a difficult time accepting some of these natural healers, sometimes they accept them to the detriment of the natural source. A new honey product out of the UK may be doing just that.

    We should be wary of businessmen who seek to improve upon nature in this way. It’s been done before, where a natural product– a known healer– is broken down, slightly changed, and then patented for profits. Unfortunately, there are people (and governmental agencies) who won’t believe in the healing power of nature until man has meddled in it. The product may be beneficial – and hopefully not fake and void of nutrients like many honey products on the market – but we may not know for sure how safe this product is, especially while the real deal is already available.

    Bees have been bio-engineering honey for thousands of years - we don't need man to meddle with a proven natural healing agent. Just because big pharma has not found a way to profit from honey and the government won't recognize the medicinal qualities we should not let them alter the natural chemistry and claim success and profits.

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    Default Re: Is Big Pharma Ready to Cash in on Natural Healing Agents Like Honey

    total scam...
    it's really proof that they do in fact know all the same health benefits that exist that you and I do... (like as if anyone believes all their denials in the first place)

    it is touting nothing more then taking the same natural ingredient that is without patents, applying patents based on some cheesy corporate commercial law, and now adding millions of dollars of advertising to get people to buy it, which fits in perfectly with their Monsanto plan to destroy bees, natural honey production, pollination and billions of dollars of healthy food... oh and let me guess it's made with corn syrup I'll bet, but tastes like "real honey" jokes on us...

    I know they are dumbing down the public, but I think they are horribly miscalculating...

    Screw them and their BS artificial "medical" honey miracle... What a load of crap...
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    I've been aware for years how amazing honey is. It's bet property is that it can be stored for thousands of years - it was found in Pyramids and can still be eaten!
    Also, I go to my local beekeeper and buy it from them in order to relieve my hay-fever (although it hasn't cured it).
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    Yes: honey/Bees/Plants/Humans are all so naturally and beautifully linked .
    We (so, so many caring people/souls have been trying) should take proper care of them all, most importantly our so called Governors and Leaders should have been doing that and listening to those who have been caring!

    Bur of cause we all know the so called Governors and Leaders don't care, it's not in their agendas for us or the beautiful natural world! (Well the world we have lived on and thought/known to be natural that is!)
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    What Is Pollen?

    Pollen is the male seed of flowers. It is required for the fertilization of the plant. The tiny particles consist of 50/1,000-millimeter corpuscles, formed at the free end of the stamen in the heart of the blossom. Every variety of flower in the universe puts forth a dusting of pollen. Many orchard fruits and agricultural food crops do, too.

    Bee pollen is the food of the young bee and it is approximately 40% protein. It is considered one of nature's most completely nourishing foods. It contains nearly all nutrients required by humans. About half of its protein is in the form of free amino acids that are ready to be sued directly by the body. Such highly assimilable protein can contribute significantly to one's protein needs.

    Gathering pollen is not as easy as it sounds. Once a honeybee arrives at a flower, she settles herself in and nimbly scrapes off the powdery loose pollen from the stamen with her jaws and front legs, moistening it with a dab of the honey she brought with her from the hive. The enlarged and broadened tarsal segments of her legs have a thick trimming of bristles, called pollen combs. The bee uses these combs to brush the gold powder from her coat and legs in mid-flight. With a skillful pressing movement of her auricle, which is used as a hammer, she pushes the gathered gold into her baskets. Her pollen baskets, surrounded by a fringe of long hairs, are simply concave areas located on the outside of her tibias. When the bee's baskets are fully loaded, the microscopic golden dust has been tamped down into a single golden grain, or granule.

    One of the most interesting facts about bee pollen is that it cannot be synthesized in a laboratory. When researchers take away a bee's pollen-filled comb and feed her manmade pollen, the bee dies even though all the known nutrients are present in the lab-produced synthesized food. Many thousands of chemical analyses of bee pollen have been made with the very latest diagnostic equipment, but there are still some elements present in bee pollen that science cannot identify. The bees add some mysterious "extra" of their own. These unidentifiable elements may very well be the reason bee pollen works so spectacularly against so many diverse conditions of ill health.
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    Default Re: Is Big Pharma Ready to Cash in on Natural Healing Agents Like Honey

    Can get this stuff in supermarkets and chemists here in various "activity" levels, 5 and 8 at the supermarket, and 20+ at the chemists.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81nuka_honey

    A girl in town had a flesh eating bug from a spider bite, and while grossly disfigured, kept her arm due to the use of Manuka honey.

    The "engineered" honey mentioned previously could simply be the selection of plant species to improve the activity of the honey...at least it could be, but I trust himan motives too much as I've found.

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    I think that the motivation for the wider clinical use of honey is because antibiotics generally are not as effective against 'bugs' as they used to be, and there is some desperation to discover substitutes. The use of phages is one area of biological medicine that shows some success and also recently there has been the use of leeches for blood clots, and maggots for cleaning hard-to-heal wounds. Certainly these organisms are specially bred, but they are not yet synthesised, although in the case of leaches their anti-clotting agent is on the market.

    Many drugs came from plants, moulds and such-like and as Shannow says, medicinal honey is sold as medicine in pharmacies here in Australia, as is paw paw ointment. I expect it is a trend that will continue, partly through necessity and also because they are effective remedies, instead of antibiotics. There are a lot of resistant bacteria and viruses out there!

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    My mother had a large ulcer on her shin which wouldn't heal. Applied 15+ Manuka and let it dry out in open air. Healed up within 2 weeks. Works on pressure sores also.
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    Quote Posted by Ellisa (here)
    I think that the motivation for the wider clinical use of honey is because antibiotics generally are not as effective against 'bugs' as they used to be, and there is some desperation to discover substitutes. The use of phages is one area of biological medicine that shows some success and also recently there has been the use of leeches for blood clots, and maggots for cleaning hard-to-heal wounds. Certainly these organisms are specially bred, but they are not yet synthesised, although in the case of leaches their anti-clotting agent is on the market.

    Many drugs came from plants, moulds and such-like and as Shannow says, medicinal honey is sold as medicine in pharmacies here in Australia, as is paw paw ointment. I expect it is a trend that will continue, partly through necessity and also because they are effective remedies, instead of antibiotics. There are a lot of resistant bacteria and viruses out there!
    I would say you are missing the point... These cretins are literally taking something that has been around for thousands of years, that they have systematically been "debunking" ridiculing, denying, suppressing and now they are coming out with a "bogus substitute" that will inevitably turn out to be a detriment on some level... just so they can create their false commercial patents on.

    They have finally caught on science will never be able to one-up Mother Nature. So the new tactic is to do what they always do simply steal it. Add in some BS about some legal interpretation that gives them the right and then spin it in the main stream..

    The cost to us is that what was once open market and available because it came from God/Nature/Earth is now a patent copyright trademarked "Product" that we are forced to pay 10x to 100x or more because a corporation has just discovered it...

    If you read carefully what they are promoting it is EXACTLY what has already been said about honey, but they have a patent on it, and will be charging 10x as much. This is probably a 'Codex Expermentius flyer' to see just how stupid the public is...

    re resistant bacteria and viruses, that was all well known and predicted a decade before it came into the "mainstream" I remember reading numerous brochures suggesting to "invest" in major pharmaceutical companies because of what was seen as a rise of super viruses. Wall Street Stockbrokers saw this coming before the Doctors?????? come on! what a load of BS... They have been using humans as the incubators to create these diseases since the 50's based on well known statistical models with inevitable predictable outcomes... they just haven't perfected it yet, and underestimated the human body/population's ability to sustain itself... so it has taken longer for them to get here... thus why we are breathing aluminum, heavy metals, drinking fluoride, eating corn syrup, canola oil, processed white flour, bombarded with bio-engineered AIDS, SARS, H1N1, Morgellons, degenerate subliminal pornography, etc, etc, etc...

    sorry if this is sounding antagonistic, it more about the rant against the corporations and how sneaky and conniving they are...
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    Default Re: Is Big Pharma Ready to Cash in on Natural Healing Agents Like Honey

    I agree. Horrendous big pharma strikes again. Or tries to.... The NHS in the UK is using 20+ medical grade pure manuka honey to treat bed sores, ulcers, burns victims, etc. It's proven that honey cures. Any other 'packaging' is complicit with dumbed-down information. Ignore the hype, buy the natural. Even if the NHS say 'never use out of a jar', I agree, but if it's just for one person keep applying it. Not just topically - but keep some safely aside for drinks to effect the immune system. Dilute the honey in very warm water, and drink some every day, or add to food if required. I also take a 50ml drink of home-made colloidal silver daily, as well as D3 5000 iu's per day. to boost our immune system. If you get ill with a bug - up your intake of D3 to at least 20,000iu's per day. There are specialist sites regarding D3, try this one for basics http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsl...and-vitamin-d/
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    Default Re: Is Big Pharma Ready to Cash in on Natural Healing Agents Like Honey

    Scottish Honey ‘Is as Good at Healing as Manuka’: Heather Variety Could Offer Cheaper Alternative.

    Experts say it could be a cheaper alternative to the New Zealand product. Of the 11 types tested, samples from Inverness killed bacteria effectively. Honey’s anti-bacterial properties are widely used in veterinary medicine, but manuka is the only medical-grade honey on the market.

    Scottish honey may be as effective as more expensive manuka when it comes to beating bacteria, a study has shown.

    Experts claim heather honey could offer a cheaper alternative to manuka, from New Zealand, which is already known for its medicinal qualities.

    Honey’s anti-bacterial properties are widely used in veterinary medicine as a wound dressing.

    The findings come from a study published in The Veterinary Journal and carried out by Dr Patrick Pollock and colleagues at the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Glasgow.

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