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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    Hi friends,

    I am in a bit of a though spot and I don't know how to proceed.
    Maybe, with the combined intellect of the posters of this thread (newcomers welcome of course), we can figure this out.

    As mentioned before, I started taking the turp mainly because I have legs where the energy doesn't flow free and as a result have had severely inflammations and other symptoms there. That and because I like to experiment with alternative ways of healing.
    In the beginning, there was a obvious relieve in stiffness etc in the legs, but after a few days.... I noticed that my calves where hurting and cramping.
    Now, my left knee is hurting like hell, seriously inflammation, .... but.... there is no swelling as it used to and there is a severe amount of pain that is also unusual.

    It always wondered me how two knees could damage so much tissue, without the hurting that most people talk about when suffering from knee inflammation.

    So, now there is inflammation that hurts like hell (where the inflammations in the past didn't hurt really), there is no swelling (where in the past my knees would swell up like ... well..)

    dr. Daniels talks about an aggravation of symptoms due to the turp that can happen.

    I don't know how to interpret my current situation.
    I'm certain that the worsening of my knees is due to the turp, but I don't know if it is because of a healing situation or the turp is attacking the muscles in my calves, causing the tendons in my knee to inflame (again).

    I just don't have enough information form an opinion.

    Eram, this is what I think and what I would do hypothetically.

    One of two things are happening here :

    1: it's a healing crisis and the turp is actually healing the area
    2: damage or undesirable side effects are happening

    My guess it's #1. You state the pain is only in the problem areas.

    Questions for you.
    What has been your dosage and how many days in a row have you taken the turp?
    What is your knee pain (problem area) scale from 1-10? 10 being the worse?

    I would suggest stoping the turp temporarily and letting the area rest a few days - cycle on and off until full recovery.

    I'm assuming you are really well hydrated and have regular bowel movements.

    My 2 cents...

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    Here are my two cents too!

    I have had horrid pain from my knees before and was told by a shaitsu practioner that this reflects the kidneys, the meridian line runs up the inner side

    of the leg, is it tender? My knees started aching and burning like crazy when I started the doses, after a week or so they have calmed down.

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Eram--

    I read Daniels' info re turpentine and she says to take it a couple times a week. Perhaps you overdid it?

    Wishing you well--FAST.


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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Thank you all for your response.

    Today, the knee was much better. Less pain and less heat.

    There's much to be said for it to be some sort of healing crisis indeed and my intuition and that of my girlfriend point in that direction too.
    I think I will take my own advice (that I gave to snowflower) and continue to take the turp no more then 2 times a week (I did it 5 times in 8 days so far, 1 teaspoon on some sugar)

    Someone suggested that I might be sensitive to turp as one takes the energy boosts that I get from them as evidence, so maybe I should lower the dose to 1/2 a teaspoon as well.
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    I'd like to thank Sigma6 and all who have contributed to this thread .

    I'm in good health and have always been active , but have devoured my share of crappy foods

    over the years . Last night was my first dosage of the turp ( 30 mins before bed ) .I used white granulated sugar , 1 tsp of turp. and some water to wash it down .

    No problem with the sweet taste of pine

    I'd have to say I was more energetic and clear headed at work today . Soon will be dosage # 2 , pretty damn excited . Will update .

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    Hi friends,

    I am in a bit of a though spot and I don't know how to proceed.


    after a few days.... I noticed that my calves where hurting and cramping.

    So, now there is inflammation that hurts like hell (where the inflammations in the past didn't hurt really), there is no swelling (where in the past my knees would swell up like ... well..)


    I don't know how to interpret my current situation.
    I'm certain that the worsening of my knees is due to the turp, but I don't know if it is because of a healing situation or the turp is attacking the muscles in my calves, causing the tendons in my knee to inflame (again).

    I just don't have enough information form an opinion.
    I have not taken turp yet, having trouble getting through at least a week of Dr. Daniel's recommended diet. I noticed that on 4th day of this diet I developed pain in my left lower calf. It felt like a blood clot (DVT)! I don't have any health problems. I should also mention that as soon as I stopped eating meat, raw eggs yolks, kefir, whey...etc. my body went into auto cleansing mode. I felt few lymph nodes enlarge (my lymphs where draining all over!) I had to go to the bathroom at least 2x more/day...Strange!
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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Things started happening. Finally. I kept it up, doing the turp sometimes daily, sometimes taking a break of a day or two. So, some hard to cope with, some good. Healing crisis: skin rash, leg pain. Good results: greater brain clarity, losing fuzzy brain symptoms, less pain in joints. Going to keep it up.
    Cheers.

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    So good to hear that snowflower.
    That you feel things are happening I mean.
    I am happy for you.

    It wouldn't surprise me that in the long run you can accomplish a lot with this as long that you pay attention to what you body is telling you and avoid to overdoing it.

    We (my girlfriend and me) took a little break from the turp since we are both doing an iboga session this week.
    As a matter of fact, at this moment she is doing hers and I am her sitter.
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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    also pleased to hear you stuck to it sunflower, well done.

    been having subtle results my self. been experiencing a little less brain fog. noticing that my bladder is clearing, what seems to be small white flex of tissue (might be the wall of bladder shedding Candida lining). been using an old clear glass pudding bowl, lets say, won't be using it in the kitchen again!

    after a couple of days of taking a tsp, upped it to 2tsps per day, gona keep this dose going for at least another week. i have a few neurological problems, sensations of nerve ends burning in my head and esophagus all the time, diet and sensible eating habits don't seem to alleviate the problems, a clean out seems to be the best option, clean slate so to speak.

    All the best to everyone
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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    I've added salt water flushing to the regimen, because I decided I needed to do a major cleansing of my entire system if the turp was going to have a chance to kill anything off without killing me, lol. I'm thinking about doing a master cleanse as well. Thought I might start this morning, but the timing isn't right. I think it's a combination of flushing things out and killing off beasties.

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    Quote since we are both doing an iboga session this week.
    As a matter of fact, at this moment she is doing hers and I am her sitter.
    Yeah babe, GOGOGO, very glad to read this, my smile is so big right now!!!!!

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Quote from:KEROSENE - a Universal Healer
    by Walter Last

    "The most suitable microbicidal hydrocarbons seem to be those with boiling points between 100°C and 200°C. The lighter and more volatile hydrocarbons, while very effective for cleaning the blood, have a stronger odour and are more difficult to "stomach", while those boiling over 200°C tend to remain in the intestinal tract and act mainly as laxatives rather than being absorbed for a microbicidal effect in the blood.
    The range of 100°C to 200°C includes the saturated hydrocarbon chains with seven to 11 carbon atoms. It is interesting to note that the medium-chain fatty acids in coconut oil with the strongest microbicidal effects (lauric acid, capric acid and caprylic acid) have eight to 12 carbon atoms."


    I am wondering why not use coconut oil instead.

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Rather, bubu, it would be to use coconut oil in addition. My perception on it is that turpentine kills and coconut oil builds or heals. MMS would go into the kills column as well. But, I can swallow turpentine and I gag, then throw up on MMS. I've been doing "build" stuff for a long time and getting absolutely no real relief from pain. So, when I read about the turpentine, I decided it was time to starting killing things instead of just trying to build a healthy environment.

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    Thanks SF but if you google "coconut oil kills candida you will get lots of hits"

    I ask the question because the link provided by Sigma6 which promotes turp says coconut oil is the best if I understand correctly. This also confirms what I knew. In our place every medicine man (not the doctors) I knew use coconut oil as base for almost all medicinal concoction. They even have the preference to use two eyed or better else one eyed coconuts which are very rare.
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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Quote from:KEROSENE - a Universal Healer
    by Walter Last

    "The most suitable microbicidal hydrocarbons seem to be those with boiling points between 100°C and 200°C. The lighter and more volatile hydrocarbons, while very effective for cleaning the blood, have a stronger odour and are more difficult to "stomach", while those boiling over 200°C tend to remain in the intestinal tract and act mainly as laxatives rather than being absorbed for a microbicidal effect in the blood.
    The range of 100°C to 200°C includes the saturated hydrocarbon chains with seven to 11 carbon atoms. It is interesting to note that the medium-chain fatty acids in coconut oil with the strongest microbicidal effects (lauric acid, capric acid and caprylic acid) have eight to 12 carbon atoms."


    I am wondering why not use coconut oil instead.
    Not sure if it would be the same, but there are 100s of reasons to consume coconut oil. Magical properties.
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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Coconut oil in combination with turps interesting... I would alternate them... I have read somewhere that you could possibly reduce thyroid production from too much turpentine...not 100% on that... but again we have to keep the application within conservative limits, measure it out wisely... it is NOT necessary to take it for extended periods in my opinion, maybe initially if you want to really go after something aggressively... but taper it back to that twice weekly until you achieve the results you want and then get back to real food... like coconut... nice transition... ; )

    No comparison really, coconut is food and can be consumed as often as you like. My favourite fat. Wish I could eat it all the time... always wondered why it was considered an anti-bacterial (among many other things...)
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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    always wondered why it was considered an anti-bacterial (among many other things...)
    good observation had it not for the medicine men who used it, I would have think it's miss info. But these medicine men I am talking about has the least education, sort of no read no write so apparently their knowledge can be considered as ancient and uncorupted.

    your suggestion holds water I will go that route, turp then switch to coconut for regular

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    Thur 3rd - one tea spoon turpentine with 3 tea spoons of honey... 20 min in my energy levels jumped way up... Head never felt clearer.... Any aches and pains I had are gone... Lungs fell like they have expanded... Air ways realy clear... 3 to 4 ****s a day.

    Fri 4th - one tea spoon turpentine with one and a qtr tea spoons of sugar... All the above continue...

    Sat 5th - one tea spoon turpentine with one and a qtr tea spoons of sugar... All the above continue.. Pluss some crazy **** in my piss (loads a little flaky things)

    Sun 6th - taking a break.

    Mon 7th - one tea spoon turpentine with one and a qtr tea spoons of sugar... All still feels good... And here I am.

    No side effects what so ever...
    Taste ain't that bad at all...

    Will continue and keep yous posted.... Peace.
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    still taking one tea spoon turpentine with one and a qtr tea spoons of sugar every day...

    from tues 8th I switched from morning dose to a night dose...
    to see if I can get a better sleep as I seem to get realy tired shortly after a dose..
    my dreams are real vivid... crazy dreams...
    still no bad side effects...
    slight headaches witch water sorts right out...
    still have a clear head...
    plenty of energy...
    my grey hair is returning back to black real quick...
    I also put it raw on any cuts sores or pains I get... seems to help...

    will try it in a bath tomorrow with sea salt and baking powder...

    iv also started putting it on a friends finger wart... see what happens...

    will keep yous updated..

    peace.

    side note... bin drinking my urine the past 18 months... I also recommend.

    urine and turpentine... only time will tell.
    kept up the daily dose till the 16th oct... ( that's a dose each day for 2 weeks )
    from der in iv changed to twice a week...
    still feel really clear headed... energy levels never bin better... cant stop eating...
    still no side effects...
    hair still returnin back to its original colour (this might be the urine as Andrew Norton Webber claims... but the turps definitely triggered it )
    no effect to my friends finger wart as yet...

    gonna make a bottle of turps from a local forest in the week.

    ITS ALL GOOD.................................................................

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    I'm at 7 doses, with a few days skipped here and there ... ( 1 tsp per day ) feeling good , feeling good

    Not even a single call to poison control...

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    Default Re: 100% Pure Gum Turpentine & Kerosene - Kill deadly Candida, leave healthy bacteria alone!

    Is anyone taking turp without following Dr.Daniels diet? If so, what sort of things have you found that your body/bowels tolerates well while taking turp.Thanks


    Edit: I should add that I tried following her diet for 7 days and ended up in ER with super fast heart rate that woke me up 2 hours into my sleep. I'm thinking the problem was due to no protein and electrolytes for 7 days. (I drank RO water, didn't eat too many bananas as I should to keep my potassium levels up)
    So my question is, can I eat: chickpeas with olive oil, drink coconut water and still starve candida? What form of protein can I have?
    I have a feeling that the report of italian woman's skin going black was due to consumption of fermented cheese. Looking over the article by Walter Last, there hasn't been any particular diet that has been followed back in teh old days. Castor oil was part of the mix when turp was consumed and hence my inclination to use olive oil as part of the prep diet to get me feeling full.
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