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    Arrow I am an alien (Wanderer), can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine (Adderall)

    update 2014 - Embarrassed to say still taking Amphetamines for ADD.. You all gave me suggestions (on illness'-tests, natural supplements, exercises) but I have not followed any of those suggestions -I don't know why am I auto-sabotaging me.. or why..

    PLEASE HELP


    [latest update at the end of this post 2013/11/14 11:11pm]


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    Summary of the post: I am an indigo, I feel alien in this world always felt it, I have being suffering a lot, Attention Deficit Disorder: the Psychiatrist said, so I took my first "medicine" last night, Amphetamine something and it's working

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    (My latest update on this challenge, 10/16 is at end of this post and page 5 [Thread created in 2013/10/02])

    My problem was not depression, is feel tired all the time, just wanting to go to bed, no energy at all. Dr. said I am healthy might be a sleep problem, but I did a sleep test ($400 dollars) result was I was sleeping ok.

    I have spent 20 years "Searching" in the new age, Reiki, chamans, Rebirthing, Hypnosis, Meditations, Inelia, Pleiadians, Abraham hicks, Books, Videos, Trainings, Energy Healing, Christianism, Buddhism, Sufism,....... so on... I really, really tried the unconventional medicine (I didn't try peyote, nor lsd etc, which might help). New age therapies only helped me few days or hours before felling tired, overwhelmed again.

    I feel wonderful with the ADD "medicine" Adderall. I know Amphetamines can affect chacras, might fry the mind, etc.. Im rebel so y am rebelling from the rebellion and come to the conventional western stuff.


    There are two kinds of aliens that born as human,
    a) The ones that can contact their alien family, travel ships, remember past lives.
    b) The ones that before coming to Earth told their family "please don't contact me" even if I yell you to do it.

    I believe I am one of b) kind.. really feel abandoned and out of place, I suffer when I see suffering on the world, sick, abused and hungry kids make me cry uncontrollably. And feeling tired all the time prevents me to help... 20 years tired and overwhelmed is enough, I am trying the conventional way.

    I am excited to read your responses, this is my first Thread from years reading posts. I work with Technology and I didn't know how to create a new Thread.. lol no place in home-place that says "click here to create a new Thread", never started a Thread in any forum.

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    During a hypnosis I saw my self like the pictures on the top (without the wings lol)




    UPDATE 10/26:

    I had no energy to do your suggestions, come and see updates, reply and give my update, still one of the things on my To-Do list

    quick update of today 2013/10/16.. well I have 16 days in this "medicine".. I have not taken it daily, about 3 times per week, I am still not in a position of leaving it. I am doing a little bit more than what I can on my conditions, but still not enough. With the medicine I really can see all.. I can see how zombie I have been, like I said for years,.. more than 15
    Example: I see my work email, I have an old folder named "!inbox" where I put everything back in august and , to "start over" and I can remember how bad I felt, how I couldn't complete not even the very small tasks. I feel kind of compassion for that me of "without the medicine" gosh.. I still don't understand the meaning of it.
    Moving to Forest and lake, I remember in 2004 in a moment of connection with Source (God, higher self, etc..), I decided to live in the occidental culture INSTEAD of my nature shamanism, nature, new age, and service and solitude. I knew that could mean the destruction of myself, and I offered it to the new wave of energy, my intention was to understand the "bad people", the ones that pollute and destroy Earth by consuming paper, gas, plastics, wood for houses, etc, etc...

    Where am I now? lost.. but this medicine is helping me remember and maybe take new decisions. Will post more, I am just opening my eyes again for long, long, long time...




    UPDATE 11/14:


    Adderall (amphetamines) are helping me a lot!! I am able to function, I have energy, focus, I am happy, I can understand, see clearly, finish my work, I see old and big problems very small now..

    well that's with the medicine, I have tried days without the medicine, like yesterday and all weekends and some days that I don't have to finish stuff.. and I feel the same way I described at the top of the post.

    I am compiling all info in this Thread and will do each of the advices, thank you all for reading me, reply, energy, good wishes, I really feel supported.
    Last edited by provolon; 13th January 2014 at 21:35. Reason: make text clearer, update 2014

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    You are among friends.

    You are not strange.

    You are not loosing your mind or anything.

    It may seem to you, based on the judgement of others, that you are not normal.

    There are plenty of us who are not "normal"

    Relax here and share. I think you are a wanderer. You may find a perusal of the ET101 guide helpful.
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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Anchor this is the 3rd time that I type an answer, something is odd..

    Thank you so much for your answer Anchor, my problem is not that I feel strange, my problem is feeling tired and overwhelmed all the time.

    Reason of my Thread is to listen opinions on "medical drugs" and maybe I should try another non-conventional thing? or.. well.. basically I wanted to share my issue and 20 years experience searching for solution

    I agree on being Wanderer, I feel like an explorer, like I need to deliver a report of my experiences to special beings that don't understand this whole duality, limits and emotions. But I have also felt all my life a "messianic syndrome" having the need to "save the world"
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    Quote Posted by provolon (here)
    Anchor this is the 3rd time that I type an answer, something is odd..

    Than kyhou so much for your answer Anchor, my problem is not that I feel strange, my problem is feeling tired and overwhelmed all the time.

    Reason of my Thread is to listen opinions on "medical drugs" and maybe I should try another non-conventional thing? or.. well.. basically I wanted to share my issue and 20 years experience searching for solution
    Try paying a visit to the alternative medicine and sciences thread, who knows what you find there, maybe there is something there that matches your symptoms and you can find a cure.

    trying can hurt you.

    All the best.

    Ed

    Quote But I have also felt all my life a "messianic syndrome" having the need to "save the world"
    How about playing that down a bit and make it, "I am one of the good guys, try my best and start with myself first".
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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Hi provolone!

    I see your age shows 29 but I understand that may not be accurate. I am curious because you indicate that you have been seeking help for 20 years so that means as a child. I would be tired too ...

    www.power2you.org may be of interest and help to you (and others). I recently attended a seminar by Dr. Daniel Fisher, a psychiatrist who has schizophrenia and promotes the concept of healing with/without medication. I think there are links to other resources listed ... it's worth a "looksee".

    I believe we are all in recovery from "something"... some of us are conscious of it, others not. And if anyone doesn't believe so ... my humble response is, keep on living.

    Light, love, peace to you and those you love,

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Also I wondered if you are strongly empathic? I know myself that I am incredibly conductive and am constantly conducting and altering energy fields (seems to be a natural occurrence with how I function) which can have the effect of causing fatigue if doing deep clearing, can also be effected by physical location on planets ley lines and earth energies within the plates you may be working with and other people aka I do not do well in cities lol absolutely require access to nature. Also another thing that can cause it is deep work being done throughout sleep on other levels, this can make you feel tired constantly. Another aspect to consider is diet, I do not function AT ALL with meat my body shuts down and energy drops to 0% with body aches and getting out of bed becomes a struggle I don't have a moral objection to meat so long as its done humanely I find that is just how I function.

    Again another aspect to consider is chemical build up in adipose tissue that you body may be chronically battling which brings energy levels down, homeopathy may be the way to go with that one.

    Anyway just some thoughts I hope all works out for you it's easy to feel alienated in when you are a caring being in what sometimes seems to be an overwhelmingly cruel world and perhaps you are otherworldy only you can see that but at then end of the day its the who you are that matters .
    "I don't care" is a civilizations death sentence

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Quote Posted by provolon (here)
    Reason of my Thread is to listen opinions on "medical drugs" and maybe I should try another non-conventional thing? or.. well.. basically I wanted to share my issue and 20 years experience searching for solution
    Sadly, I can't really contribute on the medical aspects of your post - I don't know enough. The only experience I had with Amphetamines was not what you would say "clinical" since they went up my nose

    Medicines of all kinds both natural and synthetic have their proper place, but many are used without full understanding of complete effects or side-effects. Many are more complex than we know. I don't have the knowledge to give you any reliable help. I think in some cases medicines are useful tools.

    If you read what I write as an intuitive based, error prone opinion then I have some thoughts to offer.

    It is understood that a stoked fire consumes more fuel at a greater pace. What is the fuel in your case and how is it replenished?

    Amphetamines are commonly stimulants. A debt is incurred that must be replaced - what balances are being adjusted?

    A natural rhythm for most is diurnal - sleep periods and periods of wakefulness. Yet, there are some on this very forum that have been without sleep for extraordinary lengths of time and lived well (once they figured out how to use the extra time!).

    A member of this forum, lived for a time without eating, sustaining herself on Prana. If you have not read her (Dawn's) thread it may be worth your time; there is a lot of information there about "running energy"; which could well be applicable to you. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...a-how-to-guide - even though your goal is different, there is possibly a lot in common.
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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Quote Posted by provolon (here)

    Summary of the post: I am an indigo, I feel alien in this world always felt it, I have being suffering a lot, Attention Deficit Disorder: the Psychiatrist said, so I took my first "medicine" last night, Amphetamine something and it's working
    DON'T DO IT. You have the opportunity RIGHT NOW to pull back before you get hooked.

    It's only working in the same sense that someone hits the whisky when they get angry, and then seems to feel better.

    It's the beginning of an addiction. If you are an alien (and many are!) -- you did not come to this planet to succumb to human bodily weaknesses.

    Your opportunity (and challenge!) is to UNDERSTAND the human condition, transcend it, and help others as much as you can.

    But THANK YOU for sharing your story! You'll find a lot of support here.

    My warmest wishes to you -- Bill

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    provolon welcome to this blessed circle of friends.
    Your answers are all within you and your willingness to be present and allow healing is the key that unlocks those doors.
    Peace and love to you!

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Welcome to the club provolon, and welcome to earth! I'm with Bill, drugs would NOT be a good long term solution to your problems, for they sound clearly energetic in nature (I believe) and not physical, so physical remedies will not do anything to help, except perhaps alleviate in the short-term, like a band aid, but it will serve only to infect the wound even more.

    I was on the anti-depressants in the mid 90's. It was all I could do at the time to keep on top of things. And yes it helped, but the day I threw them away was more healing for me than anything the drugs had done over the previous few months.

    If you check out some of threads here you may come to the conclusion that a whole lot of stuff is happening right now spiritually and energetically with the planet and the population. Things are, I believe, transitioning, and a lot of negative, heavy stuff that bogs down this dimension is being cleansed and discarded. So maybe that is the cause of your difficulties? If so, Time perhaps is the best medicine. Or meditation. I am by no means an expert on meditation - many beings 'from other incarnation places' are not, because it is not needed there. I generally suck at it. Patience and stillness are my failings. But I try. But it might help you with entering the silence and just feeling centredness within yourself. This I found is a good step. But look around, there are many threads here on Avalon involving these subjects, and many masters willing to share their wisdom.
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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    Quote Posted by northstar (here)
    Your answers are all within you
    This is confirmed more and more by my experience, you could ask yourself
    what believe/picture you have about yourself that causes you to feel alien to this world.
    I find that a negative feeling stems from a negative/'incorrect' picture/believe I have about myself.

    Bashar has some good explanations on how to look for your underlying believes:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=3_OJR7PSWOs

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    well.. when I was a kid I WAS WORST, I had panic attacs!! but yes.. at 9,10 I was very into catholic teachings, helping the fathers, nuns, reading, praying, "trying to be good", this problem I have started then.. where I had no energy, didn't want to do homework, and all that..
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    yes, yes yes.. yes.. it might be the physical location.. last year I went to hawaii and felt wonderful, that's why I noticed that I have been down for decades..

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

    provolon.man feel for you.all i can says is for sure that you should tread very carefully with the speed.its not a cure.and the balance your looking for maybe further damaged the longer the pills are used.so be aware.hope you find what you need.and find the relief and comfort you seek.my energy is given freely if there is need.william.
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    Hello Provolon...sorry to hear that you are suffering... I would like to share something of my experience which may be of help. I too have always had a sense that I am not of this world..it's harsh, painful and incredibly cruel place to be at times..and I always felt out of sync with everyone else (except here) so, about a year ago I took myself off to see a hypnotherapist who was an expert in past life regression, one of the best in the UK..upshot was that I could not recall any past lives, the doors was shut, I am for all intensive purposes 'new here'; This awareness has helped me enormously to navigate my way through this world and I am gradually, very gradually becoming more grounded into being here..what's also helped is that I have found a vocation which I love, which in part is the reason I'm here - to help others when I can. Please ask for help here, Amphetamines are a temporary solution and I also know that we 'aliens' don't mix very with drugs/alcohol very well All Good wishes.

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    Bill, I respect you and your work for years, I didn't expect an answer from you, and that makes me very happy.

    I Read "don't do it" and that's what I have been saying and believing, I don't know what to do.. should I continue and I guess I should, being tired overwhelmed and keep doing new age stuff, meditations, books, therapies.

    I know I don't came to this planet to succumb to human bodily weaknesses.

    I don't understand the human condition, I really feel defeated, I should not say it, but I have been feeling like that for long time

    help others as much as I can.. I am always helping anyone that I see that needs help, I am sure I could do more so much more, but my body and my mind does not respond me, I have no discipline, I procrastinate a lot, I want to be on bed all the time, sounds like depression, but I had depression in the past, which is sadness and crying, but this is not what I have been feeling, I feel numb, like there is a dark cloud in my eyes and I don't respond, make mistakes a lot, forget things.. I-am-not-here.

    I am not used to attract attention by telling my problems, I thought I made the post with a possible help for others, but I see I.. I don't know..

    I would love to be living in a forest with lakes, and Indian people as couches, maybe doing peyote once, and learn, live in peace, rehabilitate myself from living in cities with "normal" humans that make me sick, sorry but it's true I feel the sadness, and problems of people around me, like I eat them so that they get better, happens without me knowing.. I have a 3 year daughter and a wife, and I don't know how to change lives... do I have to change lives? yes.. I should stop spending 8+ hours for a paycheck.. it's depressing..


    Thank you for giving me so great support that I didn't expect...

    Bill you really made me think.. now I am sad, because I thought I have a great solution but agree.. it's not the wisest way.. thinking...

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    Right now, I have tears in my eyes while I read all your loving responses.. I am confused, tired of being tired..

    Balance between working for money and service for humanity.. I don't see how, where the balance, where to start, how... I appreciate your prayers, responses, support and energy, I didn't expect to be the one asking for help when I am always the one helping.. poorly but helping

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    Hi Provolon if you are feeling stressed because you are always tired it means you are in conflict...there is a voice there that says you ought to be up and doing things. If society has a rule that says the average sleep period is 8 hours, then you will have people who only sleep 4 hours a night worrying about that, and looking for sleeping pills, while those who need more than ten hours want to force themselves to take speed.
    What if you are here to USE your sleep time to get knowledge from elsewhere?
    Maybe this sleep problem is telling you something about your mission here.
    Edgar Cayce was called "the Sleeping Prophet" ...and is still remembered for being a 'sleeper' decades after his death.

    So get yourself a nice comfy bed, and look forward to going to sleep, then tell yourself you will remember each and every dream..
    then write down all your dreams, and 'capitalize' on what appears to be a problem now, but might well be YOU and your MISSION.
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    Quote Posted by provolon (here)

    Bill, I respect you and your work for years, I didn't expect an answer from you, and that makes me very happy.

    I Read "don't do it" and that's what I have been saying and believing, I don't know what to do.. should I continue and I guess I should, being tired overwhelmed and keep doing new age stuff, meditations, books, therapies.

    I know I don't came to this planet to succumb to human bodily weaknesses.

    I don't understand the human condition, I really feel defeated, I should not say it, but I have been feeling like that for long time

    help others as much as I can.. I am always helping anyone that I see that needs help, I am sure I could do more so much more, but my body and my mind does not respond me, I have no discipline, I procrastinate a lot, I want to be on bed all the time, sounds like depression, but I had depression in the past, which is sadness and crying, but this is not what I have been feeling, I feel numb, like there is a dark cloud in my eyes and I don't respond, make mistakes a lot, forget things.. I-am-not-here.

    I am not used to attract attention by telling my problems, I thought I made the post with a possible help for others, but I see I.. I don't know..

    I would love to be living in a forest with lakes, and Indian people as couches, maybe doing peyote once, and learn, live in peace, rehabilitate myself from living in cities with "normal" humans that make me sick, sorry but it's true I feel the sadness, and problems of people around me, like I eat them so that they get better, happens without me knowing.. I have a 3 year daughter and a wife, and I don't know how to change lives... do I have to change lives? yes.. I should stop spending 8+ hours for a paycheck.. it's depressing..


    Thank you for giving me so great support that I didn't expect...

    Bill you really made me think.. now I am sad, because I thought I have a great solution but agree.. it's not the wisest way.. thinking...
    Thanks for your reply!

    I absolutely feel for you. One of the many great benefits of the Avalon forum is that people who are physically and geographically isolated can realize that they're absolutely not alone.

    You have to hang on in there. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. It really does!

    While everyone is an individual with their own unique life trajectory, there are huge commonalities sometimes. I know some stories about what some Avalon members have lived through and triumphed over. Some of them, you might not easily believe. There are HEROES here. And together, we can be stronger.

    Keep talking and sharing your experiences. You may be astonished how many people will empathize.

    You may also want to read this experience of mine, from my last lifetime.

    A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago

    (That was thanked a record 459 times, so no, we're not alone!)

    I only recalled exactly what had happened in 2011, almost exactly a couple of years ago. And when it all tumbled down on me, I nearly came apart. It was about an experience I had back in 1948, which I could not handle. I think (but do not know) that I may have ended my own life, and came back here (as Bill Ryan!) to try again.

    (Spiritual beings are very persistent! It's the human BODY that's often the problem, and the weaker or moire vulnerable part of the 'partnership'. Spiritual beings don't take drugs! Only bodies do...)

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    Default Re: I am an alien, can't take it any more I am taking Amphetamine

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    Quote Posted by provolon (here)

    Summary of the post: I am an indigo, I feel alien in this world always felt it, I have being suffering a lot, Attention Deficit Disorder: the Psychiatrist said, so I took my first "medicine" last night, Amphetamine something and it's working
    DON'T DO IT. You have the opportunity RIGHT NOW to pull back before you get hooked.

    It's only working in the same sense that someone hits the whisky when they get angry, and then seems to feel better.

    It's the beginning of an addiction. If you are an alien (and many are!) -- you did not come to this planet to succumb to human bodily weaknesses.

    Your opportunity (and challenge!) is to UNDERSTAND the human condition, transcend it, and help others as much as you can.

    But THANK YOU for sharing your story! You'll find a lot of support here.

    My warmest wishes to you -- Bill
    This may be the best advice you ever get. Bill is right, stop now. These drugs will, and I mean WILL, result in long term brain damage. Please consider how your gut bacteria afffect your life. They have a HUGE impact on the way you think and feel.

    Dawn's thread on this subject is a great start. A very good book is Breaking The Vicious Cycle, by Elaine Gottschall. Many have been cured by her approach. It is very simple in theory, a little more difficult in practice, but anyone with a bit of will power and desire to improve will find no problem adherring to the diet. It will work! It has for so many.

    There is another great book, Fire In The Belly, by Keith Scott-Mumby, that will blow your mind. Its all about the gut and it's bacteria. The bacterial DNA has a greater impact on your health than does your own DNA!!!

    Good luck. Blessings, Conk
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