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    Default Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

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    Dear Friends,

    This is a good introduction to new Avalon member c0rv0, whom I know personally, having enjoyed a large pizza with him at the Brussels Groundcrew conference in October 2009. He's a very good man, with some fascinating experience and perspectives, and (as with many others!) we're lucky to have him here with us on the forum.

    He's being interviewed by researcher Eve Lorgen tonight (4 October). Details here:

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    Alien Apocolypse with Corvo and Eve Lorgen
    Live Friday October 4

    Illuminating the Shadowland with Sienna Lea
    http://stealingthemoon.com

    Friday 9-10pm PST, Truth Frequency Radio
    Listen Live

    October 4th, Eve Lorgen and Sienna Lea interview her colleague Corvo. He is an amazing author and researcher in the area of Ufology, Extraterrestrial Encounters, the Abduction Phenomenon and the Occult, and recently released the book Alien Apocalypse.

    http://prezi.com/fdoowhztnt-p/alien-apocalypse

    Corvo offers a unique perspective on the future of Mankind. The key points of Alien Apocalypse we dive into are:
    • The influence of non-human entities is not a modern idea, but rather a curious fixation of mankind for millennia
    • Nowadays it is manifested in the form of our “friends ET” and/or “celestial entities” like the “Holy Virgin Mary” that release ideologically consistent messages.
    • The behavior of these entities, the number of contacts and paranormal phenomena are inconsistent with extraterrestrial hypothesis.
    • The hypothesis of the origin of these other dimensional entities is supported by numerous witnesses cited in the book.
    • The existence of a multi-dimensional universe is theorized by physics with the theory or M-theory.
    • The messages of these beings relate to a series of “coming” disasters, such as “The Event”, meteors, three days of darkness, global wars, etc.
    • The mythical stories of those disasters are consistent with the narrative of the “hybrids” as the next-generation of humankind.
    • After which there will be the coming of a “millennial kingdom”.
    • The beings act like vampires. The interest of these EME’s is to establish a feeding field.
    • Human organizations in our history have tried to fight and/or establish a “devilish pact” with them.

    Corvo has a presentation that you can view that pertains to many points he speaks about in this radio interview with Eve Lorgan and Sienna Lea, on Illuminating the Shadowland, Friday 9 pm Pacific Time, October 4, 2013 on Truth Frequency Radio. (Episode 15 & 16)

    http://prezi.com/fdoowhztnt-p/alien-apocalypse

    (Part 2 will be aired on Friday October 11, 2013 9 pm Pacific Time.)
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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

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    Corvo (c0rvo) has done a written interview with Eve Lorgen, here -- posted on 28 July 2013:

    http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/ali...ene-apocalypse

    And he's also written to me privately:

    Quote I have some "insider" information to share with this community regarding coming events.
    I'll post more in the next days.
    He's written here that "a storm is coming" (and supports my encouragement to all to be prepared). I look forward very much to hearing more from him here on the forum.
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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Thanks for your kind introduction Bill,
    I will be happy to answer in this thread to any questions regarding the interview content.

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Very interesting read of the interview. Welcome c0rv0!

    The biggest question that comes to mind is, what can you tell us about the area's that are or will be most affected for these coming events. I have an intuitive sense to stay put in Arizona although I am not absolutely certain.

    Another question is regarding the Marion visitations, are you suggesting that "all" connections to Mary are actually the EME's?

    Appreciate your feedback.

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Thanks for the question.
    The events described by the EME (a term that include so-called ET and "celestial being") describes 2 main timelines.
    - timeline 2: the anglo-sasson mission
    - timeline 3: the return of the gods
    It is important to consider that the EME agenda is based on disinformation and deception. This mean that a part, maybe a big chunk of the following is deliberately false.
    timeline 3: the return of the gods
    The series of "apocalyptic" events in the timeline 3 start with WWIII, followed by a a cosmic event called "the Warning" and finally another cosmic event that include a cosmic body falling in the Atlantic ocean and provoking a huge wave. After that they will descend to establish a new kingdom of the gods.
    I have a series of maps with a list of places nominated that I will publish in the next days.
    So far the narrative of the EMEs. I don't promote it, I'm only pointing out that this is consistent across 260 cases that I cover in the book.

    To your second question: I don't like generalizations so for sure not "all" the possible cases. But in the one that I have investigated in deep is a this series of commonalities with phenomena like ET, Demons, Angels, fairies, etc.
    as John A. Keel says in "UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse"
    "The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon..."

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Hour 1 available here:
    https://app.box.com/s/r562v9psbduohhqxolnd


    [updated link]
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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    norman, I can't open the link?

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Can someone post a direct link to the radio interview please. My dongle connection is very slow and after waiting some time, Normans link only goes to a Log In Page.

    Many Thanks

    EDIT update. I traveled to the Post office and after some searching found a direct link to the first part of the interview. here.




    http://truthfrequencyradio.com/podca...2013-10-04.mp3

    downloading now then i can listen later.
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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Quote The influence of non-human entities is not a modern idea, but rather a curious fixation of mankind for millennia
    Nowadays it is manifested in the form of our “friends ET” and/or “celestial entities” like the “Holy Virgin Mary” that release ideologically consistent messages.
    The behavior of these entities, the number of contacts and paranormal phenomena are inconsistent with extraterrestrial hypothesis.
    The hypothesis of the origin of these other dimensional entities is supported by numerous witnesses cited in the book.
    The existence of a multi-dimensional universe is theorized by physics with the theory or M-theory.
    The messages of these beings relate to a series of “coming” disasters, such as “The Event”, meteors, three days of darkness, global wars, etc.
    The mythical stories of those disasters are consistent with the narrative of the “hybrids” as the next-generation of humankind.
    After which there will be the coming of a “millennial kingdom”.
    The beings act like vampires. The interest of these EME’s is to establish a feeding field.
    Human organizations in our history have tried to fight and/or establish a “devilish pact” with them.
    yes for millenia, ....... consistent ideological messages, yes agree,
    3&4 ..hmmm,
    5, so-how these other dimensional entities are on some other vibratory level
    event,
    hybrids consistent with post event milling

    it can be said that humankind is on an unviable path, the only thing which has changed this path considerably in the past is war,
    how to gain traction on a new path without war?

    if these entities have this ability [/& desire to create a feeding field],
    why not have done it by now?
    {a DC gotten hypothesis, that parallel dimensions manifest when the present is most close to it in substance, so than logically, before there is the inrushing to take over, mankind would have had to have been freshh from an apocalytic disaster}
    ---then i find it interesting taht in last point this man gets to the current spir-side battle men engages with, some going with pacts others opposing by channeling anti-entities,

    ,interesting, I could see a story in these points,,,,let's hope good forthe person and their message
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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Ok i have listened to the 1st interview. Well done Corvo, sometimes it was difficult to hear you well. but all in all your "Theory that you have composed", (Using your own words here) came over really well.

    Lordy i have so many questions. I will ask them slowly and with great respect.

    As you know Corvo i also visited Medjugorje in Bosnia where Mother Mary was appearing to six young children, My first of many visits was in 1985. My experience with Mother Mary was very positive. And still is today. But by the time the war broke out in 1991 i was disgusted at what had become off Medjugorje the place. I suppose as to be expected commercialism had set in. The Croation Mafia had infiltrated, And in my opinion the positive messages that Mother Mary was giving were not being listened to. Money was pouring into Medjugorje and was staying there, Serbs were hated and Bosnian Muslims were hated. And this was not the message Mother Mary gave. The message that made me curious to visit was this.

    Quote: "In God there is no religion. Religion is man made and brings division. There is no division in God. But please respect all religions". End Quote

    And although i was not a Catholic. I agreed with this message.

    Corvo you said in the interview that the message that comes from those entities are the same. Whether from An ET, Demons, Angels, fairies, The message or a warning of some Apocalyptic agenda is the same.

    My experience with Mother Mary in Medjugorje, Having read ALL of her messages over the last 32 yrs, is that to date there has been NO MESSAGES of an Apocalyptic nature. Non whatsoever. She did say at the beginning that wars could be averted by prayer and fasting.

    Whether the secrets which have yet to still be revealed have an Apocalyptic message within them, As yet we do not know. And no one knows apart from the six visionaries who they have been revealed to. I spoke with the visionaries and was told that some of the secrets are negative and others positive. And that by prayer and fasting. (using consciousness and the body with focused intentions). That the negative secrets to be revealed could be lessened or not happen at all. Again i agreed.

    So my first question to you Corvo.

    Can you show just one message from Mother Mary in Medjugorje that has an Apocalyptic warning or Agenda.

    With respect

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    I have just listened to the interview thank you. I found it very good, and mostly agree. I say mostly because I will need to listen again at finer detail. Looking forward to next week.
    We are food until we grow out of fear and knee jerk reaction, when we stop believing lies, and when we see manipulation in all its forms. Oh and ritual and hierarchy are part of the signature.

    It is interesting in John Keel's book 'operation Trojan Horse' (and later reported by Richard Dolan) that the early 'visitations' conformed to mans imagination at that time.
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    Quote if these entities have this ability [/& desire to create a feeding field],
    why not have done it by now?
    "for thousands of years and within every known human culture, normal individuals
    have reported brief and often repeated "visitations" by humanoid phenomena whose presence produced permanent changes within the psychological organization of the experiment. When these phenomena were labeled as deities the "messages" were employed to initiate religious movements that changed the social fabric of society."

    Jacques Vallee

    They are doing it all the time.
    By creating religions, cults, even political systems.
    In a case reported by the abductee Ken Bakeman (see http://www.kenbakeman.com/reptilian_index.html) a "reptilian" EME says that the Confederate States of America was his idea to have a private feeding field.
    In the book I report in an extensive matter on the occult links of nazi Germany (this is accepted also in main stream political science, e.g. see http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_e_il_nazismo_magico) that, in my opinion, is a perfect example of a political system with ontopolitics goals.
    So what is different NOW?
    Many human traditions report of different age of the gods in some of them they are physically presented on the planet, then they leave, promising to return. The book proposes the "Dimensional Dialectic Hypothesis" to link this concept with modern physics.

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    Quote Posted by billyji (here)
    Can you show just one message from Mother Mary in Medjugorje that has an Apocalyptic warning or Agenda.
    Thanks for the question. I need to point out that I'm not anti christian nor anti catholic neither anti anything. I have great respect for everybody ideas.
    assumed this I feel the need to investigate the matter with a sober mind: the fact that people experienced "full love and intense light" is only an indicator that they are able to project this feeling. And they do it all the time. So is not the form what matter, is not the feeling rather what they do and the underlining message.

    now to your question, I know many messages of this type but this is the first that comes to my mind:
    “…I invite you to renunciation for nine days so that with your help everything I wanted to realize through the secrets I began in Fatima may be fulfilled…”
    August 25, 1991

    bold mine.
    Following my research Fatima is direct linked with the apocalyptic Timeline 3.
    Furthermore the "10 secrets" per se are a questionable tool for a (supposed) divine entity that should know how human psyche works and that the secret itself is a source of mental illness (cr. "religione e neuroscienze" Aldo Natale Terrin). This secrecy policy has provoked speculation and curiosity regarding the nature of those secrets.
    However in other apparition cases those "secrets" were progressively released to form the narrative I described above. One of the most interesting is the "Virgin of Anguera" in Brasil (cfr http://www.pedroregis.com/english/)
    that with the "Madonna del Pino" in Italy (cfr http://www.madonnadelpino.altervista.org/) claims to be linked to both Medj. and Fatima. In those cases we have predictions that we can check, some of them very hard to be made like that a pope would go in exile and we would have 2 popes on the same time.
    This was published in 2010.

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    Quote ritual and hierarchy are part of the signature.
    They are part of the signature of a certain EME faction. Others factions uses different strategies. They are very flexible and able to change to adapt to our credos: if for example somebody believes that each form of hierarchical organization is bad they will create a chaos dogma to keep him poisoner again.
    So how protect our-self?
    Ancient mysticism is an invaluable tool here the Advaita Vedanta (cfr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivekachudamani) proposes the concepts of Viveka (discernment) and Vairagya (detachment). but in our western world the spiritual tradition has been suppressed and this is not the responsibility of a church, rather from the rationalism that came as a consequence from the "Age of Enlightenment". Now this dis-empowering from our spiritual roots is the signature of another faction of EME. They promote (apparently) absolute freedom and our world today is a result of their victory.

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

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    the "10 secrets" per se are a questionable tool for a (supposed) divine entity that should know how human psyche works and that the secret itself is a source of mental illness (cr. "religione e neuroscienze" Aldo Natale Terrin).
    Thank you for answering questions.
    I am not sure I understand what is meant in the quote? The secret is a 'source' of mental illness...does that mean would CAUSE mental illness? I could not find anything in English about the source you have in parentheses.
    Thank you again for the responses.

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    Post Maps of locations of supposed events

    As I posted above the case of Anguera is of interest because gives precise indications of events versus "secrets" that let space to speculations.
    In the book I analyzed 25 years of messages and discovered that the prophetic part is concentrated between 2005 and 2010.
    Before and after the messages are focusing on general invitation to be ready and to pray.
    The name of the locations has been extracted and put on a series of maps. Here some of them.

    The maps are published for your discernment: this author is NOT endorsing this scenario, rather pointing out that has a consistency across the cases discussed in the book

    This is a world wide overview:


    WWIII Maps
    the war involves a Russian invasion of Europe in 3 fronts of attack. For you consideration this prediction was made during the years of the "reset" between Russia and NATO.

    overview Europe



    South Europe


    Celestial body impact

    location of main impact

    a simulation indicate that the generated Tsunami wave amplitude on the brasilian coast would be between: 96.2 meters ( = 316.0 feet) and 192.0 meters ( = 631.0 feet). In North Atlantic the calculated Tsunami wave amplitude would be between: 28.1 meters ( = 92.1 feet) and 56.1 meters ( = 184.0 feet).

    location of a secondary impact



    for the Tsunami effect in Europe see the blue lines in the map above.

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

    Listened to the call with great fascination... wasn't sure if I was picking up everything you were saying though... My position on the Vatican is that it has always been a Satanic political cult operated like a Mafia, a continuation of Roman culture itself. It's flourishing, the very sign and seal of why we as a planet deserve no mercy for such folly, and the latest pope is nothing more than damage control. I remember watching a video saying that the last emperor of Rome transferred his power to the first pope of the Vatican (around 600ish AD?) And since then it has been nothing more then a font of mind control propaganda and political agenda, wholly separate from the issue of "Christ" or "Christ consciousness" or spirit or the many other terms associated with this principle. A Jew told me that the Torah is not at like our OT, which itself has elements lifted from Mesopotamia and Sumerian literature. The Bible therefore appears to be summation, or coles notes summary of many past cultures, a collage of many cultural superimpositions. An object of our "projections" as you say... Just sharing my opinion where I stand (no offence to anyone...) This is not to say that it isn't in fact a valuable and precious work loaded with ancient history, philosophy, law, culture, etc things I study and live by in my own life. It is misperceived. If you can speak how this book ties into any of this.... I would welcome your opinion especially.

    Quote It is interesting in John Keel's book 'operation Trojan Horse' (and later reported by Richard Dolan) that the early 'visitations' conformed to mans imagination at that time.
    could this not itself be a universal constant through time... one thing that struck me during the interview was how the interviewers and even you (although your speculation would be much more valid due to your research...) but none the less how everyone was imposing their interpretation of what these entity's agenda really is... But at the same time it does seem that in fact we really don't know! Do we?

    Some queries, I hope you can answer any or all of these...

    (1) It seems hard to find a frame of reference as to what exactly your major premises are.. I am not completely certain... certain ideas seem out of context to me... so I am not clear on exactly what the big picture is according to your research. But it does appear that you are in fact following the narrative of the bible somewhat? But not taking it quite as literally as the mainstream interpretation? Would that be fair to say?

    (2) I guess one of the issues is that you are talking about more then one set of entities? That some are apparently good while others apparently malevolent as you describe above? Can you more clearly describe who these groups are in more detail? And which was operating when? and which is now operating presently? or having the greatest influence?

    (3) Also did you hear Kerry's interview with the 'mystery political operative' - if so did you find it consistent, viable? any thoughts on that?

    (4) I got the impression overall you mentioned this issue about them wanting us to "worship" them and them wanting to "patronize" us as their "sheep" and of course we all know how "popular" that notion is with modern society today...
    But whoever this group is, are they specifically identifiable, have they manifested themselves? demonstrated any powers to justify our worship? Do they claim to be the creators of heaven and earth? Are they claiming any authority or responsibility for any of the spiritual texts?

    (5) Is there a group specifically in contact right now literally saying we should worship them like this? Because a lot of the info I got, for example like George Green's books, is the exact opposite... The Pleiadians I think, are just talking about a universal source and our manifestation ability... and how we should be "praying" to manifest good, etc...
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time
    By faith we understand things which are seen were not made of the things which are visible

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    Default Re: Avalon member c0rv0 interviewed by Eve Lorgen last night (4 October)

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    Quote ritual and hierarchy are part of the signature.
    They are part of the signature of a certain EME faction. Others factions uses different strategies. They are very flexible and able to change to adapt to our credos: if for example somebody believes that each form of hierarchical organization is bad they will create a chaos dogma to keep him poisoner again.
    So how protect our-self?
    Ancient mysticism is an invaluable tool here the Advaita Vedanta (cfr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivekachudamani) proposes the concepts of Viveka (discernment) and Vairagya (detachment). but in our western world the spiritual tradition has been suppressed and this is not the responsibility of a church, rather from the rationalism that came as a consequence from the "Age of Enlightenment". Now this dis-empowering from our spiritual roots is the signature of another faction of EME. They promote (apparently) absolute freedom and our world today is a result of their victory.
    Technically that could be the very definition of Satan himself... a superior intelligence and a massive deceiver
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time
    By faith we understand things which are seen were not made of the things which are visible

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    Quote I am not sure I understand what is meant in the quote? The secret is a 'source' of mental illness...does that mean would CAUSE mental illness? I could not find anything in English about the source you have in parentheses.
    Please forgive me if I provide non English sources, "apocalisse Aliena" contains citations of over 110 others texts in four languages that, unfortunately, are not traslated in all of them.

    The relationship between secrecy and mental illness is commonly accepted by psychoanalysis and should be easy to find references. Having a close relative that works in this field since my childhood I was exposed to several cases where an attitude to secrecy was the key to unbalance families or communities.
    George P. Hansen in the "The Trickster and the Paranormal" states that we can aspect also the same from the people involved in 70 years of alien secrecy:
    Historically, many groups that attempted to engage paranormal phenomena became unstable. There is little reason to think that secret government projects would escape that fate. They too are probably prone to paranoia and conspiracy theorizing. Because of the secrecy surrounding their work, and the importance of it, they could be susceptible to delusions of grandeur, a common accompaniment of incipient paranoia.

    This is the reason that push insiders to speak: to heal themselves from the disease of secrecy.

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    Quote Posted by billyji (here)
    Can you show just one message from Mother Mary in Medjugorje that has an Apocalyptic warning or Agenda.
    Thanks for the question. I need to point out that I'm not anti christian nor anti catholic neither anti anything. I have great respect for everybody ideas.
    Thank you Corvo. I also am neither of the above and have respect for ALL belief systems. I thank you for what you bring to the table i think it is important, And i do agree with most of what you say concerning visions and messages from beyond from EME's as you name them. I agree there is deception going on, And as Medj is still ongoing and concerns the times we now live in, It is also important for the millions of Catholics and others to understand if they are being used by service to self or service to others beings. Therefor no offence will be given or taken as we debate.

    Quote Posted by c0rv0 (here)
    assumed this I feel the need to investigate the matter with a sober mind: the fact that people experienced "full love and intense light" is only an indicator that they are able to project this feeling. And they do it all the time. So is not the form what matter, is not the feeling rather what they do and the underlining message.
    I agree. It is the message that matters and how we respond to the message. But my experience was not only feelings of unconditional love, But visual and by scent also. The visual Phenomenon that i witnessed like the 30ft concrete cross on the mountain appearing to be spinning round and changing colour, The Sun appearing to fall to earth and spin. Mother Mary allowing me to see her arrive from above like a shooting star that landed. The scent of a million roses when i was in her company. The kiss she gave me on my forehead. were all to me not miracles but a manipulation of nature and the elements. The concrete cross and the Sun were illusions, I knew this was not a factual reality. It was also not a hologram as not everyone saw what i saw.

    But i very much enjoyed the experience and it did not feel to me that this was coming from a service to self entity.

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    now to your question, I know many messages of this type but this is the first that comes to my mind:
    “…I invite you to renunciation for nine days so that with your help everything I wanted to realize through the secrets I began in Fatima may be fulfilled…”
    August 25, 1991

    bold mine.
    Following my research Fatima is direct linked with the apocalyptic Timeline 3.
    Furthermore the "10 secrets" per se are a questionable tool for a (supposed) divine entity that should know how human psyche works and that the secret itself is a source of mental illness (cr. "religione e neuroscienze" Aldo Natale Terrin). This secrecy policy has provoked speculation and curiosity regarding the nature of those secrets.
    However in other apparition cases those "secrets" were progressively released to form the narrative I described above. One of the most interesting is the "Virgin of Anguera" in Brasil (cfr http://www.pedroregis.com/english/)
    that with the "Madonna del Pino" in Italy (cfr http://www.madonnadelpino.altervista.org/) claims to be linked to both Medj. and Fatima. In those cases we have predictions that we can check, some of them very hard to be made like that a pope would go in exile and we would have 2 popes on the same time.
    This was published in 2010.
    Yes she said at the beginning also that she had come to complete what she had began in Fatima.
    The 3 secrets of Fatima were.

    1. The end of the 1st world war.

    2. The rise of communism and how long it would last. (part of the completion for Mary was the fall of communism in Russia and the bringing down of the Berlin wall which happened in 1989 while Mary was appearing in Bosnia.

    And secret 3. The Vatican refused to release all of the 3rd secret. Which i have learned was a warning for the Vatican, Only part was released, If the recent conduct of the Vatican is anything to go by, I see why they did not want to release the 3rd secret.

    I do know that there has been other visitations, Africa ect. But Mary said at the beginning of Medj that this would be her last appearance on earth in this form. Also when the visions are complete there will be a permanent sign left in the skys above Bosnia for all to see that God exists. And scientist from all around the world would come to investigate this sign and they will never be able to conclude or understand the sign.


    So the end of a world war1 and the rise and fall of Russian Communism to me is important information but not Apocalyptic. Not the end of the world. In fact good news for everyone.

    EDIT TO ADD:

    Mary in Bosnia also gave Catholics a ticking off for worshiping her. She said when you pray invite me to pray at your side and DO NOT pray to me.

    The secrets i have been asked to treasure in my heart until an appointed time, Has never caused me any mental illness. All will be revealed at their appointed time.

    Peace
    Last edited by Billy; 5th October 2013 at 17:49.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


    Peace

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