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    Default Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Holy Hamhawks Batman .....I think this time around we are going to see a heck of a train wreck, and it might be coming from the sky!



    Now I don't want to fear monger....but this might be a good time to make peace and pack away some drinking water and food.









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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Hmm, I do not like that 1. This IS fear porn and worse 2. This IS matching hand and glove with what a lot of my DHS/FEMA and Military Sources are telling me... I do not like it one little bit. That doesn't mean I am buying it, It just unnerves me somewhat. I am prepped, I just hope others are.

    Below is the article from the Video Above;
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    http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/...r-2466928.html

    Govt Underground Fleeing Comet ISON? 7 Clues From A Beforeitsnews Reader

    Thursday, October 3, 2013 7:18
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    The following email was just sent to Beforeitsnews by one of our readers and Beforeitsnews friend John DiNardo . We have decided to republish this email in its entirety. The email below consists of 7 clues that the ‘elite’ and the govt may now or may soon be going underground with the approach of Comet ISON. Has the govt really shutdown or have they gone underground, maybe to Denver? We now know why FEMA is preparing and it goes right along with our readers 7 clues below. We’ve embedded videos which help to prove our readers point. After reading, what do you think, are they going underground? Here are the clues.:


    CLUES: The Government Ruling Elite are Fleeing into their Underground
    Cities to Escape the Perils of the Approaching Comet ISON

    CLUE #1
    JD:
    A friend has requested information about the dangerous incoming
    Comet ISON, and this is the reply he received from a very important
    person in the space and science community whose identity I have not
    yet been permitted to reveal. He has worked for N.A.S.A. and one of
    the three major television networks. He has written books on space
    and science matters, and has appeared as a guest on numerous radio
    and television programs. Here is the full text of his email reply:
    [Explanatory comments within {braces} are mine.]
    From: _________@yahoo.com
    To: ___________@q.com
    Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:44:49 PM
    Subject: Re: Requesting Information About Comet ISON

    In fact, because of the US Government shut down, ALL NASA missions
    – as of midnight, last night — are NOT going to be able to acquire ANY
    new data– anywhere in the solar system. The astronauts on the ISS
    {International Space Station} will be backed up by keeping “Mission
    Control” open, but they will have NO ground support for their
    experiments; the scientists and mission support folks who process their
    data, send them revised mission plans, download the telemetry and run
    it through the computers on the ground … have ALL been sent home!.
    All NASA’s unmanned spacecraft missions — including ALL spacecraft
    curently orbiting or on the surface of Mars — have been commanded into
    ”safe” mode — monitored from the ground for spacecraft safety, but no
    NEW data is being acquired . . .

    {“Curiosity” and “Opportunity” are the names of NASA’s Mars Exploration
    robotic rover vehicles. MRO (Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter) and “Odyssey”
    both are robotic spacecraft orbiting Mars }

    . . . but no NEW data is being acquired, including that from Curiosity’s
    and Opportunity’s planned observations of ISON from the surface, and
    MRO and Odyssey’s observations from Mars orbit! All of this is
    ”coincidentally” timed to occur … just as ISON passes Mars …. . Right! ….
    Now, the US NASA shutdown does NOT affect the Europeans — who have a
    very healthy Mars Express spacecraft in orbit around Mars. So, the larger
    question is — “Why have we seen NO images from the approaching ISON
    … from ESA!? {European Space Agency} Let me know what you find out.

    Signed {V.I.P. name withheld}

    CLUE #2
    Just as President Eisenhower waited until his farewell speech to
    evade the ruling elite’s rifle crosshairs, and only then warned the
    people of the elite’s creeping tyranny, so too, the outgoing Director of
    Homeland Security issued this chilling shocking warning in her farewell
    speech, reported by ABC-News:
    ”A massive and “serious” cyber attack on the U.S. homeland is coming,
    and a natural disaster — the likes of which the nation has never seen —
    is also likely on its way. So prepare, and bring “a large bottle of Advil,”
    Janet Napolitano told her yet-to-be-named replacement in a farewell
    address Tuesday morning.”

    CLUE #3
    Astrophysicist James McCanney revealed that his contacts among military
    officers and professional astronomers have leaked to him that:
    ”a mini-solar system [comets swirling around a gravitational baby star]
    is moving into our Solar System.”
    and that,
    ”You are on your own. Be prepared! . . . . This horde of incoming comets
    and asteroids now threatens Earth.”

    CLUE #4
    NPR-News “U.S. ‘SPACE FENCE RADAR SYSTEM GOES SILENT
    [Shut Down] AFTER 50 YEARS IN OPERATION”
    Only a fool would not realize that they are merely concealing the space
    radar from the eyes of public scientists, so as to preempt asteroid threat
    warnings that would panic the public. It is well known that they merely
    pretended that the Hubble Telescope had failed, and that they lied about
    the Infrared Astronomical Satellite having failed, just as they lied in
    stating that the radio transmissions from the Pioneer 10 space probe had
    failed. This space fence shutdown strongly implies that they expect major
    celestial bullets hurtling toward Earth. But let’s not prepare. We wouldn’t
    want to disturb the economic house of cards.

    CLUE #5
    U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT JUST HAPPENS TO SHUT DOWN NOW
    I received an automated email from Dr. Michelle Tuttle of the U.S.
    Geological Survey; you know, the nation’s earthquake warning experts.
    She wrote:
    Due to the Government shutdown, my job has been terminated.
    I no longer have email access, either.
    Thank you, shadow government. Now, not only have you kept us
    blindfolded as to incoming asteroids, you have also ordered a black-out
    of vital earthquake reports, now, at this critical juncture in Earth’s
    ongoing trauma when earthquake frequency and intensity is beginning
    to soar.

    CLUE #6
    The former governor of Minnesota, a man of the people, has gotten into
    the secret underground city of the treacherous ruling elite, and has filmed
    the elite’s private army, who herein state:
    ”We will do whatever it takes to shut out desperate Coloradoans from
    seeking shelter here below; we will shoot to kill them, if necessary.”
    Please click on the FULL Screen icon at the lower right corner.



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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    I was about to post his one on my 2013 Thread on Hinky Meteor Explanations Found Here - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...sed-conflicts.

    With info about Cabal Drilling/Fracking into Aquafers and Horizontal Drilling into the Gulf to cause water to get into Yellow Stone and the New Madrid Fault to "Weaken area's to Encourage" geological events to occur under the right conditions... That was pretty recent info. I guess here is as good a place as any to post it...

    http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/u...-we-be-worried

    Unknowncountry Weekender: Earthquake Swarms and Supervolcanoes--Should We be Worried?
    Friday, October 4, 2013

    There is earthquake activity around two supervolcanoes, one in North Korea and the other in the United States. Earthquake swarms in such areas can indicate magma movement, and scientists are studying both volcanoes. A thousand years ago the eruption of Mount Paektu in what is now North Korea was probably the largest in human history. The eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano would devastate the United States. In addition to these two restless supervolcanoes, large-scale earthquake activity is continuing. Like the meteor count Unknowncountry reported on earlier this week, the earthquake count has been rising worldwide for a number of years.

    On September 24th, there was a huge earthquake in the Arawan province of Pakistan which measured magnitude 7.7 on the Richter Scale and resulted in the deaths of over 500 people. The tremor caused considerable damage, levelling over 1500 houses and trapping people inside. The quake has left dreadful conditions for survivors, many of whom have been left without even basic shelter from the scorching sun due to the scale of the damage.

    Astonishingly, out of the carnage, something new was born: a small island appeared out of the sea in the Paddi Zirr, which is a stunning, 'hammer-head' shaped bay leading out into the Arabian Sea. The new land mass is estimated to be approximately 75 to 90 metres in diameter and 15 to 20 metres above sea-level. The new-born islet is not thought to be a permanent feature and it is predicted that it will eventually erode away over the next few years.

    The after-shock of the larger quake, which occurred later the same week in the Balochistan region of Pakistan, 18 miles south-west of Arawan, was equally violent with USGS declaring it 6.8 on the Richter Scale, and Pakistani authorities scoring it even higher at 7.7. At least 15 people were killed as a result of the second tremor, and Chief Pakistani meteorologist Arif Mahmood warned that such tremors might continue for the next few weeks.

    Data published by the USGS (United States Geological Survey) seems to indicate a swarm of earthquakes in the Pakistan area, particularly in the Awaran area, and also, less widely reported, a significant cluster of tremors registering above 4.5 magnitude located further North in Afghanistan.

    In the United States, seismic activity has increased around Yellowstone National Park. A University of Utah press release revealed that a disturbing total of 130 earthquakes had rocked Yellowstone National Park between Sept. 10 and Sept. 15, though as the quakes only registered between 0.6 and 3.6 magnitude, most were too minor to be detected without the aid of specialist equipment. Seismic activity in the Park is often experienced in swarms, and during the period in question three separate swarms were detected, mostly concentrated around Lewis Lake, the Lower Geyser Basin and northwest of Norris Geyser Basin.

    The significance of this is that Yellowstone Park is a notoriously volatile area which sits atop an immense, active volcano. The caldera, or 'cauldron' of this volcano has shown signs of rising over the past few years; scientists say that this is due to magma rising and pushing up on the caldera, or from magma heating gases and hydrothermal fluids - the same fluids that spew from Yellowstone's Old Faithful geyser - and pushing them against the caldera.
    This volcano is known to have produced some of the most colossal eruptions in history, so any increase in seismic activity around it must surely be taken seriously. Bob Smith, a geophysicist who has monitored seismic activity in the area for the past 53 years, said that the recent increase in activity was "unusual".

    At the very least, previous major tremors at Yellowstone have been known to trigger geyser eruptions; a major quake at Hebgen Lake in 1959, registering 7.3 to 7.5 magnitude, changed the interval of Old Faithful eruptions and caused nearly 300 locations within Yellowstone to erupt. Bob Smith has apparently traced all three recent swarms back to the Hebgen Lake quake, as aftershocks can sometimes continue for hundreds of years.

    Another potential volcanic threat is the Mount Paektu volcano, on the border of North Korea and China. Its last eruption 1,000 years ago was one of the largest in human history; the whole top of the volcano blew off and consequently seismologists have always viewed it with respect. Chinese scientists have been studying it for the past 15 years, particularly after signs of significant activity occurred in the year 2000. At this point, its sides were actually seen to bulge, and there was an increase in earthquakes in the area, often an indicator of an impending volcanic eruption.

    Seismologists are now embarking upon a study of the volcano, during which they will attempt to look inside it using a process similar to a medical CT scan, in order to form a more complete picture of what is powering the volcano, and to establish the threat of eruption. Six seismometers were set up in August, and the full data should be available by August next year.

    Data from Earthquake-Report.com indicates that there has been an increase in volcanic activity in multiple sites across the globe: at the Cumbal volcano in Colombia seismicity is at an elevated level; 'mini-crises' continue to frequently occur at Momotombo volcano in Nicaragua and also in Nicaragua the Telica volcano finally erupted on 25 September after nearly a year of vigorous seismic episodes. Tremors associated with volcanic activity continue to be felt at Pacaya volcano in Guatemala and at White Island (New Zealand), and a very strong earthquake was recorded on 30th September in the Kermadec Islands in the South Pacific.

    This data serves to illustrate that unless earthquakes or volcanoes affect populated areas, then they are not considered to be a threat to human safety and consequently are not often widely reported, but should these incidents be assessed individually, or should the earth's seismic activity be assessed as a whole if a global increase is identified? The USGS, currently operating at reduced capacity due to the recent Federal Government Shut Down, identifies on average around 50 earthquakes per day across the planet - that's 20,000 per year - so perhaps the quantity recorded is not so significant, but when swarms of sizeable activity occur in concentrated areas at similar times then should seismologists begin to sit up and take notice?

    The science is very complex, however, and even when a swarm of earthquakes manifest in one region, scientists claim that it is still very difficult to predict whether these are the precursor to 'something bigger', or whether they are connected to other activity. Surely, though, given the potential threat that major earthquakes or volcanic eruptions pose to our global civilisations, isn't it best to err on the side of caution when assessing the dangers? This is clearly a view shared by the Italian government after they jailed six Italian scientists and one government official for manslaughter in 2012; the team of seismologists and geologists were accused of not giving the Italian public enough warning of an impending earthquake in 2009 which killed over 300 people.

    Even if scientific analysis is able to predict a future seismic event, the evacuation of thousands or even millions of people is not always going to be possible. Each and every day, millions of Californians live perched on top of the San Andreas Fault, despite a study earlier this year which warned that a 'mega-quake' in the area was a possibility. The research focused on a section of the fault called a creeping segment which lies about 50 miles east of the coastline, between Paso Robles and Monterey. The creeping segment, similar to another major fault in Japan, was long believed to have been steadily slipping and releasing pressure as tectonic plates shifted. Researchers now believe it has the potential to build up stress over time and then rupture.
    At the end of the day, we must never forget that we live a precarious existence, inhabiting a constantly evolving planet within a volatile universe. This reminds us how important it is to respect the amazing, living organism that constitutes our wonderful Earth, and to use science to explore ways in which we can continue to live in harmony within its various eco-systems and developing landscapes. Man may be considered to be the dominant species on this spinning sphere we call home, but we must always humbly defer to Mother Nature as she is ultimately in charge of our destinies.

    Unknowncountry brings you important insights the others do not. To find out how to keep the news you need but cannot get elsewhere coming, click here.

    News Source: Unknowncountry's Supervolcano Coverage over the Years Our Yellowstone Coverage Earthquake Coverage Mt. Paektu on Slate.com Yellowstone on Nature World News Pakistan Earthquake from the Guardian


    Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/u...#ixzz2gt49DDNQ

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    I would say this ties in with THIS THREAD about Biden tipping off the Elite with CodeWords would be extremely related to those reading this one. IMHO...
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    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...140#post740140

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    Hey great! Wait till they all go underground and then seal the doors shut. ccc.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
    Hey great! Wait till they all go underground and then seal the doors shut. ccc.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that you will not wait very long

    How much coffee do you need to smell before you can smell the coffee?


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    Quote Posted by Vitalux (here)
    Quote Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
    Hey great! Wait till they all go underground and then seal the doors shut. ccc.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that you will not wait very long

    How much coffee do you need to smell before you can smell the coffee?
    No doubt whatsover, but based on what? A youtube video and some falling stars..? Thanks Vitalux.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....


    The panic is taking on a life of its own in the vacuum of information... as it always does. The Military did say we were "On our own". Where exactly ARE WE TO LOOK FOR REAL RELIABLE INFORMATION in the public domain? We who do have Gov./Mil. Contacts are getting conflicting info on our own end. So why shouldn't we expect the run of the mill people to be skeptical?
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    Is NASA still looking out for asteroid threats ? Image Credit: NASA

    Concerns have been raised regarding our potential to defend against everything from asteroids to ET.

    Internet users who logged on to Twitter to view NASA's asteroid watch news feed this week were surprised to find that it had been taken off-line due to the US government shutdown which has also seen NASA's home page and other services suspended as well.

    Many argued that the move was irresponsible and that it had left the planet open to a possible asteroid threat, but scientists were quick to allay fears by emphasizing that only the Twitter account was suspended and that the actual search itself will carry on regardless, we simply won't see any updates until the shutdown is over.

    Concerns were also raised this week however in Russia during a conference at the Titov Main Test and Space Systems Control Centre near Moscow. When asked about a threat from a hostile alien race, deputy chief Sergey Berezhnoy responded by suggesting that there wasn't much they could do to defend against it.

    "So far we are not capable of that. We are unfortunately not ready to fight extraterrestrial civilizations," he said. "Our centre was not tasked with it. There are too many problems on Earth and near it."

    So should we be worried about threats to our planet from outer space ? Generally no, as far as threats go, we have far more to worry about regarding events here on Earth than we do about the infinitesimally small chance of an extinction asteroid impact or an invasion by a hostile alien species.

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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    According to the interactive diagram at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=ison&orb=1, comet ison will cross the path of the earth's orbit on approx Nov 1, 2013. But you have to wait until approx Jan 18, 2014 for the earth to fly through the spot(path) where comet ison was on Nov 1, 2013.

    Maybe there will be some nice meteor showers to watch in January.

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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote CLUE #5 U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT JUST HAPPENS TO SHUT DOWN NOW
    If Continuity Of Government is still in place from post 9/11/2001 and further strengthened via the Patriot Act, should we not be following the current activities of Dick Cheney and the Bush men? The COG shadow players supersede any constitutionally elected Executive Branch.

    I can't find one source that says that the 2001 COG has been rescinded. On the contrary, it renews with each Patriot Act renewal. And that certainly would explain the Govt's escalating disregard for their own laws with regard to the wars, torture, spying, lying, secrecy, bankers and Plutocracy; not to mention Obama's very out of character behavior. Obama specialized in Constitutional Law, and certainly acts as if he is within the law while he allows this obviously unconstitutional and illegal activity to continue. Maybe because he knows that under COG and the Patriot Act, IT IS ALL QUITE LEGAL, because COG suspends the Constitution.

    CRITICAL - MUST READ!!!
    Investigation into whether the United States is a Constitutional Government
    http://www.constitutionally.blogspot.com/

    Dennis Kucinich interview with 911truth.org
    http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20080711175039667

    The Kucinich interview is from 2008, and at the time he was freaking out over the COG implications and the powerlessness of Congress to know anything, let alone act on it, because of the secrecy and "fear". (Sound familiar? NSA?)

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is the case. In fact, it is the only thing that does make sense. Whether they go underground because of comet Ison or out of fear of something else that they may or may not be manufacturing, we need to call them out while at the same time keeping ourselves prepared and safe.

    If I took this too off topic, I apologise. But I can' t help but feel like overlooking this is denial of the obvious...and the constant stream of DC distractions just facilitates.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Wait... the comet of the century as NASA calls it , it passing mars heading our way , and because of no budget , they say close down , no pictures , no help for ISS ,No pics from mars rover ??? and nasa just says okay were going home ??? hello ISON IS right by Mars, and we have a rover there ??? and No pictures ??? government shut down , space fence after 50yrs shut down , the USGS shut down or no new data ??? ESA has no new pics of ISON ??? the head of DHS steps down and says in her fairwell speech , we are headed for a cyber attack and a natural disaster the likes of which we have never seen ??? military gear sent to puerto rico ??? isn't that where ison is supposed to impact ??? I'm gonna need alot of coffe , where's paula ???
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    If Comet Ison is as huge as the woman in the Hagmann report says it is - carrying a stream of debris along with it - and if it is in the vicinity of Mars, where are all the wonderful amateur astronomer pics? It should be visible with the naked eye yet all I seem to find are simulations.


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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    If Comet Ison is as huge as the woman in the Hagmann report says it is - carrying a stream of debris along with it - and if it is in the vicinity of Mars, where are all the wonderful amateur astronomer pics? It should be visible with the naked eye yet all I seem to find are simulations.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...acts-with-MARS

    Here you go.


    I don't think it is about size rather it is about accumilated debris before and after.
    Not sure we will hear from the rovers again! I understand another mars mission is due to take off on the 28th november, it will be interesting to see if it goes ahead.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Posted by sheme (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    If Comet Ison is as huge as the woman in the Hagmann report says it is - carrying a stream of debris along with it - and if it is in the vicinity of Mars, where are all the wonderful amateur astronomer pics? It should be visible with the naked eye yet all I seem to find are simulations.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...acts-with-MARS

    Here you go.


    I don't think it is about size rather it is about accumilated debris before and after.
    Not sure we will hear from the rovers again! I understand another mars mission is due to take off on the 28th november, it will be interesting to see if it goes ahead.
    I've seen that - not much help.
    I need an explanation why a small comet can attract so much debris, when a large one, eg Hale-Bopp, visible for 18 months, seemingly did not.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Hale%E2%80%93Bopp


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    Welp one can only wonder with space stations and satellites surrounding the globe....would it not be a good set up to send "fake" meteors down and blame it on space? I would not doubt this scenario at all
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Based on the thought that ISON is going to be a major issue to us, approximately when would this become apparent?
    What specific events should we be watching out for...and in what time frame?

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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

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    If Comet Ison is as huge as the woman in the Hagmann report says it is - carrying a stream of debris along with it - and if it is in the vicinity of Mars, where are all the wonderful amateur astronomer pics? It should be visible with the naked eye yet all I seem to find are simulations.
    This is the Reverend Michelle Hopkins. Almost everything she says about Ison in her Hagmann interview is incorrect.


    Just a note: we should always be careful not to confuse the message with the messager -- but neither Michelle Hopkins or John DiNardo are reliable sources of information.

    They have both been getting quite a number of things wrong for a number of years now. DiNardo in particular tends to exaggerate, misunderstand, and point in all the wrong directions for evidence that we are about to be doomed. Recently, in her interview with Hagmann, Michelle Hopkins did exactly the same thing. It helps no-one.

    DiNardo is one of the many current prime case studies of 'Wolf Wolf'. But this does NOT mean that there's nothing seriously afoot (there is), and that the Wolf is imaginary (it is not).

    We need to all be as smart and aware as we can possibly be figure out what, where and when the Wolf is.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Posted by Sérénité (here)
    Based on the thought that ISON is going to be a major issue to us, approximately when would this become apparent?
    What specific events should we be watching out for...and in what time frame?
    Here a great video explaining the incoming comet ISON, including dates when ISON is visible for the human eye.

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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

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    ....

    But this does NOT mean that there's nothing seriously afoot (there is), and that the Wolf is imaginary (it is not).

    We need to all be as smart and aware as we can possibly be figure out what, where and when the Wolf is.
    Bill, what is your take on the timing of the shutdown, closure of the Mars rover operation at the time ISON is having
    noticeable impact on Mars?

    McCanney made some interesting comments like Mars is developing a coma right now. How reliable do you think his
    comments are?

    I also try to avoid all the hoopla stuff ... but I think there are some very interesting pieces of the puzzle in there.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    But this does NOT mean that there's nothing seriously afoot (there is), and that the Wolf is imaginary (it is not).

    We need to all be as smart and aware as we can possibly be figure out what, where and when the Wolf is.
    Bill, what is your take on the timing of the shutdown, closure of the Mars rover operation at the time ISON is having noticeable impact on Mars?

    McCanney made some interesting comments like Mars is developing a coma right now. How reliable do you think his comments are?

    I also try to avoid all the hoopla stuff ... but I think there are some very interesting pieces of the puzzle in there.

    Stage magician's hand-waving protocol: "Look to the right!" And something else is quietly happening to the left.

    Ison is just a comet, like Elenin was. If the Earth is entering an area of space which contains a larger number of meteors and small asteroids -- as it seems it may be -- it's because of something else. The Mars 'coma' effect, caused by Ison's very close fly-by there, is interesting, and may be an electromagnetic induction effect. But it doesn't and can't affect us, tens of millions of miles away. And the trajectory of Ison brings it nowhere near the Earth at any stage.

    Note that even if NASA is on standby with all real-time reports suspended, the entire world has not been shut down! There are world-class astronomers with world-class equipment in many other countries. The Russians, The Canadians, the Australians, the Chinese, the Indians, the Brazilians, the European Space Agency. The US is not the only country on the planet!

    I speculated here (copied below) that it's more likely to be a Planet X phenomenon than anything connected to a small, 3-mile wide comet. As I've also stated (and I did the math), the Earth being affected by Ison is like a car on the freeway being affected by a grain of sand in a field 15 miles away. It can't happen!

    I certainly sense that something is afoot, and there are many others who sense it too. I do NOT know what it is. Rather than a risk from space, I suspect personally it's more likely to be a false flag event in the US (a major, game-changing, traumatic one) like
    • The largest earthquake ever recorded
    • A nuclear event
    • A biochemical attack
    • A faked ET landing or contact
    • ... many other options!


    My earlier post about meteor impacts and fireballs:

    It's hard to explain why the number of meteors are increasing over a period of months -- if they are. (And yes, they certainly seem to be.)

    That's because the Earth is a moving target in space. It's hurtling round the sun at 67,000 mph, and the location in space where (e.g.) the Russian Chelyabinsk meteor hit the atmosphere in February is now over 300 million miles away, where the Earth was then. So there's no obvious link between (say) that, and what's happening now.

    This is always important to remember. The Earth moves so far and fast in space than even when there are two fireballs visible in the atmosphere within a few hours of each other, this does NOT mean that the meteors were somehow 'traveling together'. They couldn't have been.

    If your car on the freeway (or your Humvee in Iraq barreling along in the desert) is hit by two bullets five minutes apart, there must be two gunmen. Not one firing at you several times.

    If the number of meteors is increasing, that means that there must be a LOT of meteors (or very small asteroids) in space all over the place -- because it seems we keep on crashing into them.

    This MIGHT be something to do with 'Planet X', which (assuming it exists, and all the evidence indicates that it does), is likely to have amassed a large debris field, both in front of AND behind it -- possibly a long way in front.

    Comet Ison, which many are keen to point to on YouTube and blame for everything they can think of, is only 3-5 miles across (a tiny object!) and is way out near Mars right now -- so nothing in its tail will or can be anywhere near us. (Tails of comets always point away from the sun, whether they're inbound or outbound, and Mars is much further away from the sun than we are.)

    No conclusions. Just some very basic context to help us all understand what we're hearing about.
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    Default Re: Are they underground Fleeing Comet Ison? ....good video to see .....

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This MIGHT be something to do with 'Planet X', which (assuming it exists, and all the evidence indicates that it does), is likely to have amassed a large debris field, both in front of AND behind it -- possibly a long way in front.
    That is very interesting, and I do agree with you. If I may ask, Bill, do you think it will be a physical "Planet X" or is it something non-material? Is the scenario painted by Nancy Lieder feasible, in your opinion? PS Thanks for your grounded views and a great forum!
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