Clash with Karen Hudes on Trunews (Broadcast of October 15th, 2013)

[Operator]

Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)
Wow, new Karen Hudes interview on Veritas. http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2...017-khudes.php
Two hours for members with great upbeat, happy music between the first and second hours.
Mel lets her roll explaining all the complex interrelationships. Lots of stuff that is hard to wrap your head around if you are not an attorney and economist.
It's her best interview yet. Lots of info that TPTB don't want us to know.
Enjoy

Yeah, very good interview indeed ... She speaks Dutch ?!?

Ok, Karen als je dit leest wordt dan hier lid van het beste forum op internet. Dan kunnen we je persoonlijk vragen stellen
en misschien een grotere groep aan internationale activisten voor de vrijheid van de mens creeren.

I just invited her to become a member here ...

At least she also mentioned how the legal system with its maritime law is corrupted. That raises my confidence in her.
It means that despite being a specialist she may have less of the usual blind spots than I expected

[Flash]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)
Wow, new Karen Hudes interview on Veritas. http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2...017-khudes.php
Two hours for members with great upbeat, happy music between the first and second hours.
Mel lets her roll explaining all the complex interrelationships. Lots of stuff that is hard to wrap your head around if you are not an attorney and economist.
It's her best interview yet. Lots of info that TPTB don't want us to know.
Enjoy

Yeah, very good interview indeed ... She speaks Dutch ?!?

Ok, Karen als je dit leest wordt dan hier lid van het beste forum op internet. Dan kunnen we je persoonlijk vragen stellen
en misschien een grotere groep aan internationale activisten voor de vrijheid van de mens creeren.

I just invited her to become a member here ...

At least she also mentioned how the legal system with its maritime law is corrupted. That raises my confidence in her.
It means that despite being a specialist she may have less of the usual blind spots than I expected

Good that you are opening up operator!

She may think the same thoughts about us, the exact same thoughts, how similar we are all over!!

[Operator]

Posted by Flash (here)
Good that you are opening up operator!

Thanks, but I hope I was open all the time. I mean, in my opening post I raised a sincere question what to think
about her message. Not to question her unconditionally ...

Sincere people and/or organizations get infiltrated or controlled all the time, especially when they are trusted by
a larger audience. Since she's been on so many shows recently and has been allowed to convey her message
so freely I started wondering if there is a 'trojan-horse' side effect to her message.

Since we are often 'reacting' to messages brought to us (instead of being fully creative ourselves) it is important
that we understand the full implications of those messages.

[T Smith]

Posted by Peace&Love (here)
i think we are reading too much into this... she is not an agent and also he is not an agent... 'They' cannot control everything in this world.

Yes, true. But they could easily allow her Mercedes to crash and burn into a tree, so I think it's a legitimate question to ask.

BTW, sometimes someone can be "controlled opposition" and not even know it (not that I think Karen Hudes is, just sayin'). That's the nature of social engineering, mind control, and subtle leverage over and manipulation of group consciousness. For example, a small child can be easily manipulated into a desired action that is nonetheless 100% their own doing and action. As any parent knows, it's not always an exact science, but with enough understanding of the child's mind, motives, desires, i.e. after an intimate "mapping of the child's innocent consciousness", so to speak (and btw, this is the main objective of NSA surveillance--to map and manipulate group consciousness, which then provides barriers for individual consciousness), you can direct a child's behavior without them ever knowing it. It is phenomenal, really, after the fog of things clear with time, given hindsight and historical perspective, how very common it is for people to play active and sometimes very passionate roles working unwittingly against their own interests, sometimes for the very agenda they passionately speak out against.

I don't subscribe to the End-Times rhetoric or embrace its agenda, but I do tend to agree with Rick that it is extremely naive to believe (or hope) that we can expect a legal remedy to the issues at hand, save for a massive awakening of the true power dynamic as it exists in the exopolitical theater. He is absolutely correct that the power structure would never allow that to happen; there are just so many ways to thwart the type of remedy Karen Hudes was describing, most of which we would likely never even hear about, even in the alternative media. The unfortunate reality is the banking cartel power structure, which is an integral segment of an even larger chain of power, has seized compete control of our governance in terms of the official government being subservient to their agenda. The banksters, for lack of a better term, will allow for government autonomy (and even constitutional law to ensue); they will allow for the government(s) of the various countries to self-determine, so long as those governments or constitutional provisions don't encroach upon their specific agenda, their lawlessness, or their status as Alpha.

All this said, I applaud what Karen Hudes is trying to do. Her approach might succeed, but only after a spontaneous mass awakening (as in a vast majority) and a clear understanding en masse of the dynamic of the power structure--essentially the undoing of a century's worth (or more) of brainwashing. Even then, there will be pain involved in excising the cancer. If we are trying to shred links in the chain of the power structure, they won't go quietly.

[Operator]

Posted by T Smith (here)
All this said, I applaud what Karen Hudes is trying to do. Her approach might succeed, but only after a spontaneous mass awakening (as in a vast majority) and a clear understanding en masse of the dynamic of the power structure

I think most of us here would welcome her attempt to improve the situation. But the question is what can WE do to support her actions?
In fact you answered that question too. Our chances will improve if more and more people become aware of the existing situation.
We have to break the cycle of consent by silence.

And the weirdest thing in this case is that Rick Wiles, despite his other perception/beliefs/context, is also just doing that.
He is also spending a lot of his energy to wake people up. So perhaps the consensus is there after all!

[T Smith]

Posted by Corncrake (here)
....I am writing you after a radio interviewer, who kept on saying that there was no legal way for US citizens to take back their government, ended my interview when I lost patience and said, [expletive deleted!] http://foa5c.org/file.php/1/Amendmen...69_1929_HL.JPG
Best,
Karen

In Rick's defense (again I don't subscribe to the minutia of his worldview) he never said there was no legal way to take back the government... what he said was, he couldn't see any legal way to take back the government without a bloody revolution... As a lawyer, who is presumably trained and accustomed to pay close attention to words and their meanings without undue inference, I'm surprised she inferred the wrong connotation there and reacted so emotionally.

I also tend to agree with Rick. Perhaps she just isn't so jaded, as of yet, and doesn't understand just how malleable the legal system can be to suit those who have corrupted it. But my guess is she will soon learn exactly what Rick is talking about and will probably owe him an apology as she continues on her quest to affect a legal remedy. Of course, the system would cease being so malleable if ever there were a mass awakening, so I by all means support her efforts.

[gripreaper]

Karen Hudes, formerly of the World Bank and causing quite a stir on the
Internet, will be Rod's Special Guest on this Friday's (10.25.13) AIB Live Call
at 9:00 PM Eastern ! She was former Senior Counsel for the World Bank
and resigned or was fired in 2009 ! Her views includes those on the U.S.
dollar and its future stability ! She's apparently been re-instated but some
factions are preventing her from re-assuming her position !

Some pertinent background in a video interview:
"Karen Hudes - U.S. Has to Come Around to the Rule of Law"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=av6bp...ature=youtu.be 30 min

Her site: http://kahudes.net/

AIB Talkshoe # (724) 444 - 7444 Call ID: 48361
Also participate Friday Night 10.25.13: Via computer WITHOUT talk option...
And, For The Rod Class AIB Call Archives Go To:
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=48361&cmd=tc

[grannyfranny100]

Thank you gripreaper. After viewing your recommended link https://youtube.com/watch?v=av6bp...ature=youtu.be 30 min. I discovered another one "World Bank Whistleblower Harrassed By DoJ - Support Her" https://youtube.com/watch?v=3zd8-Xy26TE with David Knight giving her exposure on Prisonplanet and Infowars. Definitely also worth watching.

Amazing how this is going viral while the lamestream media ignores her and Congress does its duh act.