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    Lightbulb NANO-TECHNOLOGY - we might be doomed

    This thread could turn into a must read. I had heard of nano-particles but didn't think much of it.

    We think that chemtrails are a cause of sickness, but the thing is, when you see it, the particles are already bigger than the insidious nano-size windows.. It appears that, the "invisible" exhaust trails contain sub-micron or "nano-particles, <50 nanometers in size" - and science is saying that those small sized particles are highly dangerous and it appears for the large part science IS not giving proper coverage on the dangerous sizes, those who know just aren't talking..

    The following articles in some of the posts will try to point out some of these factors. This presentation is only a very small tip of an iceberg on a topic that is so massive, so insidious, our whole planet is potentially at risk. Not all of the scientists even know the scope of this massive infiltration of the environment. We all need the accurate information to determine what to do about these nano-particles. It is frustrating but I will try to get more information and publish it in this thread as I come across it.

    Here is some of what we do know:

    Nano-Particles are IN the AIR, come from Fires, Exhaust gases (cars, buses, trucks, trains, planes, boats) from internal combustion engines. They come from coal and gas fired furnaces burning those fuels. They come from gas flaring from oil/gas wells burning off "associated gas".

    Nano-Particles are IN the Foods, condiments, candies, snacks. Some are added in deliberately, but some could come from aerosol form from contamination. Many times we are not told that nano-particles have been added.

    Nano-Particles are being used in some drugs, cosmetics, sunscreen. Many times we are not told that nano-particles are there..

    Nano-Particles can act like carriers to transport drugs or substances into the cells, and possibly can transfer unwanted substances into the cells.

    Experimental nano-particles are in new drugs, new genetic engines potentially capable of going after DNA patterns, or going after bacteria or going after viruses.. Anything could easily go wrong because the size of the particles are so small, and nobody would easily recognize such because the detection instrumentation is not adequate, nor are the safeguards adequate at this time, and any of the above genetic nano-systems could be weaponized and deployed probably without detection.

    Homeland security knows nano-particles could be one of worst most insidious weapons this planet has ever seen.

    MOST of this is ignored, made nothing of, or touted, "don't worry about it, its the best thing since sliced bread.."

    Nano-particles accumulate in the cells, in the Mitochondria, the parts of the cell responsible for energy production and other things.

    Nano-particles in the critical sized windows can cause oxidation chemical reactions, similar to breaking apart structures - both good and bad.

    The Chemistry of nano-particles is poorly understood - science has recognized that a nano-sized particle of a molecule is very very different than a gross visible particle of a substance.

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    After reading up on this, looking at the scientific articles and connecting some of the "nano-dots" (figuratively speaking), I woke up and I am worried. I am concerned that people don't know and don't understand the issues, the damage, the potential to destroy all life on this planet by doing some stupid things, in error or by deliberate act..

    People need to be educated, trained, proper equipment available for monitoring, and methods need to be created to eliminate accumulation of nano-particle from cells.

    Please read on.. please do try to follow the links, and the PDF's. That is to prevent overwhelming this thread with data that can be read elsewhere.

    Please try to think about solutions - do we need more education, stopping nano-research, methods to eliminate nano-substances (the FDA could possibly call these things "adulterants"), what?

    Thanks







    Do a google on https://www.google.com/search?q=%22D...%22+triggering

    "DNA NanoTechnology" triggering , those key words.

    My browser shows almost 92,800 hits going back into the mid 2005-2013 time span.

    Articles say, DNA can be used as a starting point NANO-MATERIAL and TRIGGERED into action (like turned on or turned off), by an externally applied field.

    Ultra-violet light of a specific wavelength can be used and intercepted by the DNA-BOW-TIE antenna molecules assembled into the nano-chain. This is talking about the external energy "pickup" that can be created on a specific type of DNA molecule assembled artificially in the lab.

    One of the hypes of this type of "machine" innovation is that specific "nano-vaccines" can be made to turn on "immune system function".

    FYI - There was another thread in the Conspiracy Research forum that basically debunked a guy calling himself "Bill Weld". Apparently the debunked Mr. Weld proved to be as determined by some forum members to be non-existent as to his used "Titles", and other assorted issues.

    In that forum thread, Weld complains about some sort of DNA-KILL-SWITCH existing (among other things)..

    To simply point out, IN the light of a Google Search on "DNA NanoTechnology" triggering, the articles are saying that indeed DNA can be assembled in a nano-form, and indeed it can be triggered to activate with an external input..

    AS that seems to be the case, DNA can be assembled, and selectively triggered to make a unique molecule, can the anomaly of "Bill Weld" just simply be used to point the group to actually taking the time to look at his alarm bell as defined in the: "DNA NanoTechnology" triggering links? Surely there are articles in there that say who has this stuff, who is working along certain trends?

    Ponder this: IF DNA can be assembled in let's say to duplicate one of the cellular apoptosis genes, GOOGLE: APOPTOSIS GENE that gene is responsible for triggering CELL DEATH.

    If the KEY element to activate the synthetic nano-DNA created molecule for one of those genes, is not fully assembled, or "left-out" UNTIL a specific ultra-violet light wavelength is inputted into the system, and then the Apoptosis gene molecule is therefore activated, what do YOU think is going to happen?

    The science is there, and has been since mid 2005 - what has been assembled by whom, controlled by whom and for what purpose? Has it been deployed?

    Just to point out, I read this PDF today... IN a very recent PhD Paper by a University author,

    http://lib.tkk.fi/Diss/2013/isbn9789...9526053219.pdf

    the author cites he personally conducted DNA NanoTechnology triggering experiments, successfully built DNA nano-molecules and triggered or inhibited the rest of the chain's formation. He cited half a dozen different methods that can be used. He used one specific wavelength of UV light to cause his DNA-BOW-TIE antenna to receive the external energy from the UV-LIGHT and then continue to function.
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    Default Re: "DNA Nano-Technology" triggering

    I read a book by Kurzweil, where he predicts we will have the technology to
    get nanobots injected, that migrate to the synapses, lie dormant until
    they are activated by a signal coming from a website (I suppose you get something in your computer that has this transmitter).
    Once activated your senses are totally bypassed by these nanobots and you are in a virtual environment
    coming from code in the website.

    He thinks this will come about around 2030, I got the book in 2004.

    One way to get people all excited about this new development.
    Yikes!

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    Thanks for the book reference - Apparently John the technology already exists and to get a "properly designed" nano-particle into the skin is simply to "touch it, or inhale it, or ingest it". So I guess the tech is already here.

    There are still some proponents of nano-particle developments saying, at the top of their lungs that nano-particles won't penetrate the membranes.. Many are saying that such particles do penetrate. Some specifically are saying in the presence of an external driving factor such as "sunlight" (tanning beds would fall into that category I think), the particles do indeed penetrate.

    (ed. Apparently the size of the particle and if it has a metallic component are keys for penetration)

    Ref: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Futur...n-281511.shtml July 16th, 2012, 14:29 GMT, looks like Kurzweil was a tad late in his prediction - the "science" has made a lot of leaps and jumps since 2005

    ref: http://www.technologyreview.com/view...y-through-the/

    ref: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20...25109.abstract - the abstract from the University paper showing the stuff does pass thru the skin

    In Geek-Speak: "We now show that spherical nucleic acid nanoparticle conjugates (SNA-NCs), gold cores surrounded by a dense shell of highly oriented, covalently immobilized siRNA, freely penetrate almost 100% of keratinocytes in vitro, mouse skin, and human epidermis within hours after application. Significantly, these structures can be delivered in a commercial moisturizer or phosphate-buffered saline, and do not require barrier disruption or transfection agents, such as liposomes, peptides, or viruses. "

    Translated, you can find a hand creme or nasal spray giving you nano-engineered molecules some even claiming to have DNA.

    If the DNA contains the specific trigger "bow-tie" antennae, who knows what could happen - could it be used with a trigger-able remote carrier to do "extra" things? The science says it exists.




    In the posts below I go over some articles showing how this is done, and in one of the posts further down, there is a search engine allowing one to FIND published nano-material items.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post746173

    Please pay attention to items which use GOLD nano-particles and Silver nano-particles as they are the structures used to convey both the switching ability and the penetration ability into the epidermis (skin).
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    Default Re: "DNA Nano-Technology" triggering

    He seems to be a spokesman for the whole transhuman "movement"
    Perhaps we were supposed to feel better about it as it snuck up on us.

    jf
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    Default Re: "DNA Nano-Technology" triggering

    I think it would be great to see if DNA Nano-Technology" triggering, the thread subject actually can be researched and see specifically as I asked,

    "What has been assembled, and by Whom, Controlled by whom and for what Purpose?
    Has it been deployed?"

    Seems to me that is a simple black and white - the big questions to be asked.

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    The use of Nano-Particles in COSMETICS - the questions asked center around, "when is a cosmetic really to be considered as a DRUG?"

    WHO is using Nano-Particles, and what types of nano-molecules, the chemistry, is being used?

    Will the nano-particles interact with the cellular DNA, capable of turning Genes on and off?

    If it can turn ON a gene, it could turn it off too.. ie HOX genes. Ever hear of Retinoic Acid? Sure, touted in skin therapy to help the skin heal, a retinoic acid nanoparticle in a cosmetic could lead to the HOX genes actually being tweaked.

    Geek-Speak: "In higher animals including humans, Retinoic acid regulates differential expression of Hox genes along the anteroposterior axis.[21] Genes in the 3' ends of Hox clusters are induced by retinoic acid resulting in expression domains that extend more anteriorly in the body compared to 5' Hox genes that are not induced by retinoic acid resulting in expression domains that remain more posterior."


    translated: Hox Genes being interfered with during embryonic development can lead to deformities of the fetus' brain and spinal cord. They also govern construction of the head and abdomen. Hox genes are master control genes.

    One really does NOT want to risk messing around with ANYTHING that can change the HOX genes' turning ON or OFF.

    I suppose one could ask, has one ever used one of the NANO-HAND CREMES listed in the http://www.jltp.uiuc.edu/archives/Abramowitz.pdf article? The FDA in that article only says there is just VOLUNTARY compliance in letting folks know if they have used NANO-PARTICLES in their "cosmetic" products.

    It begs one to sadly ask, has any mother had a deformed baby after using one of those "cosmetics"? The articles show possible precedent I believe, but I would assume a lawyer skilled in FDA laws, bad-drug laws would have to weigh in.

    (more later)
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    Even the National Institute of Health, NanoScience and NanoTechnology trade journals say Nano-Particles pose a significant risk. Take a look at this simple ABSTRACT:

    Quote J Nanosci Nanotechnol. 2010 Dec;10(12):8482-90.
    Pharmacokinetics and physiologically-based pharmacokinetic modeling of nanoparticles.
    Yang RS, Chang LW, Yang CS, Lin P.
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    Quantitative and Computational Toxicology Group, Department of Environmental and Radiological Health Sciences, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523, USA.

    Abstract
    The worldwide commerce involving nanoparticles will soon reach $1 trillion and already we have more than 600 commercial products containing nanoparticles.

    Because nanoparticles are invisible and little is known about their toxicities, there has been concern about health effects in humans.



    As toxicology is a continuum of pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics, this is a review of recent advances on pharmacokinetics and physiologically-based pharmacokinetic (PBPK) modeling involving nanoparticles. (what that means is they don't KNOW how the particles actually move inside of cells and exactly where they interact - they are hoping to have computer modeling that could predict where the particles go and where they will interact)

    We provide a synopsis of the state-of-the-science on the absorption, distribution, metabolism, and excretion (ADME) of nanoparticles in mammals, as well as some of the unique applications of pharmacokinetics to nanotechnology.

    Earlier, the main emphasis of pharmacokinetics of nanoparticles centered around the "control release" of drugs. (a drug can be attached to a nano-particle "engine" and then moved into a cell, sometimes those engines are called "nano-bots", or nanorobots)


    Thus, drugs encapsulated by lipidic (fat particle) nanoparticles or bound to nano-particles form a controlled-release mechanism. (fat type of molecules are used as transport agents)

    The end results included, among others, enhancement of therapeutic duration and reversion of multidrug resistance. (drugs could still be forced into the cell with nano-particles)

    As the science advances in this area, the resulting achievements included:

    (1) utilizing nanoparticles as delivery vehicle for drugs, drug combinations, or genetic materials; (genetic manipulation in other words by nano-particles containing dna, or rna or chemicals which modify dna or rna)

    (2) capitalizing on physico-chemical properties and tissue affinity of nanoparticles for medical imaging; (it is said here that tissues readily SOAK UP nanoparticles, "affinity")

    (3) potentiating drug effects on immunotoxin and anticancer drugs; and (very toxic substances can be coupled to nano-particles and made very STRONG)

    (4) creating "stealth" capability from body's defense system. (in other words, the normal protective mechanism of the body, the immune system, can be bypassed, meaning there can be NO DEFENCE against a specifically created nano-particle)

    More recently, the application of biologically-based computer modeling to nanoparticles made it possible not only for inter-species, inter-routes, and inter-dose extrapolations but also for the integration of the modern tumor biology and computational technology for the possible improvement of cancer chemotherapy.

    (the above I am going to have to ask the reader for their indulgence.. Why EXACTLY would we want to have inter-species molecules put in a human body? What is the purpose of for instance having a mouse gene installed and bypassing the human immune system in a human's cell? What exactly DID i read above?)

    (They add that being able to get inside of a tumor and inject a therapy just to "tumors" is extremely promising.. obviously)

    Although pharmacokinetics and PBPK modeling of nanoparticles are still in their infancy, impressive innovations have already been demonstrated in their applications to medical sciences.
    (according to the National Institute of Health)

    Nanotoxicology is one of the most promising and fertile areas of science given the importance of nanoparticles to the economy of the 21st century, their possible environmental fates, as well as the potential health concerns of these particles.
    One can see, it IS a money making opportunity driven research apparently..
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    Dynamic DNA nanotechnology focuses on complexes with useful non-equilibrium behavior such as the ability to reconfigure based on a chemical or physical stimulus. (A physical stimulus could be pressure, or photonic particle. A wavelength of light could be another way of defining the characteristics of the input stimulus. Effective particle Energy = planck's constant times 1/wavelength)

    In other words, the DNA Switch, is able to stay in an "off" state, until triggered, then it completes it's intended function.


    "DNA nano-technology" provides one of the few ways to form designed, complex structures with precise control over nano-scale features.

    reference:
    "Dynamic DNA nanotechnology": Zhang, David Y.; Seelig, Georg (February 2011). "Dynamic DNA nanotechnology using strand-displacement reactions". Nature Chemistry 3 (2): pp 103–113. doi:10.1038/nano-chem.957. PMID 21258382

    also:

    http://molecular-plasmonics.de/molpl.../abstract.html


    Example of a Molecular nano-bow-tie antenna, designed to allow for remote triggering by an external stimulus
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    Birth Defects - Please re-read the two PDF's in this thread link, and then take a look at this:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post745761

    "Novartis used the investigational product listed as Aliskiren vs. Enalapril last year and it resulted in death of 47 of which only one has been attributed to clinical trial of the new drug.


    Only another clinical trial of new drug on humans, Sun Pharma's Paclitaxel injection concentrate for nano-dispersion, registered a double-digit death figure (12) during the last seven years. Majority of the pharmaceutical companies, whose drugs were permitted for clinical trial on human beings, were of foreign origin."

    "NEW DELHI: As many as 2,644 people, called subjects, died during the clinical trials of 475 new drugs on human beings in last seven years and only 17 of the medicines were approved for marketing in India, the Centre has informed the Supreme Court.

    Responding to allegations by NGO, Swasthya Adhikar Manch, in its PIL that Indians were used as guinea pigs by foreign pharmaceutical majors for human trial of their new drugs, the Union health and family welfare ministry said of the 57,303 enrolled subjects, 39,022 completed the clinical trials."

    and

    look at this..



    In light of such testing happening in India, using these products, on mom's, and seeing their babies ending up deformed, how can it be right that big pharma can get away with this? Especially with the dangers of nano-products and the unknowns..

    ref http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...clinical-trial
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    These DNA cages can be made to release drugs in the presence of a specific nucleic acid sequence.

    "Many diseased cells, such as cancer cells, overexpress certain genes," Edwardson adds. "In a future application, one can imagine a DNA cube that carries drug cargo to the diseased cell environment, which will trigger the release of the drug."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0901153347.htm

    Lots of "positive" science in that article from Science Daily..

    Let's just for one nano-second play devils advocate, and ask this question: "What if the DNA sequence that is being targeted is the gene pattern for Arab, or Jewish, or German, or Nordic" and the DNA caged "drug" opens up when exposed to such a dna sequence when in the cell."

    What is going to happen if the "drug" is something that causes cancer, or mutation, or cell death, or pick a disease, maybe a "Prion" (google PRION, heck let's just look at http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/prions/ where the centers for disease control talk about "prions"). A "prion" is small enough to be easily packaged inside of a "DNA-Cage". What happens is the "information packet" inside the DNA cage gets injected into the cells of the body. And it releases its packet. Whence in there, the contents does the deed.

    And tell me that such engineering potentials which can be conducted by COLLEGE STUDENTS in a bio-lab are safe, and nothing will go wrong?

    From the Science Daily article mentioned above:

    "Thomas Edwardson, a McGill doctoral student and co-author of the new paper, says "DNA structures can be built with great precision, they are biodegradable and their size, shape and properties can be easily tuned." OMG

    I cannot emphasize strongly enough this nano-dna technology is a double edged sword..


    A DNA cage (at left), with lipid-like molecules (in blue). The lipids come together in a ‘handshake’ within the cage (center image) to encapsulate small-molecule drugs (purple). The molecules are released (at right) in response to the presence of a specific nucleic acid. (Credit: Thomas Edwardson, McGill University)
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    I am not liking this nano tech one bit! Is there a way to cleanse ones self of this foreign nano sh..?

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    Quote Posted by penn (here)
    I am not liking this nano tech one bit! Is there a way to cleanse ones self of this foreign nano sh..?
    Hi Penn - this stuff is the epitome of insidiousness - invisible, able to be designed to do whatever is setup, and the whatever for instance, could be as shown in one of the above posts - what types of nano-particles could be in consumer items? What about those which we have NOT been told about by manufacturers.. (class 5 particles)

    I find it to be simply a delusional glee that one can spot looking for the "good that can be done" by correctly designed and applied nano-tech. No question there is good that can be done. However, and that caveat is so pervasively insidious, it is easy to make a mistake that results in, and I am serious, something like the Andromeda Strain substance, albeit maybe not based on silicon, it could be based on carbon and amino acids.


    All documentation that I have sifted through (just a handful of some key pieces of published data), and by God there are a lot of documents, and we REALLY could use a LOT of help here to sort it; the only methods being talked about is "boosting the immune system to handle when cells start dying to clear them out quickly". Like handling an infection - if the whole body tho is "infected", read "infested" with a nano-substance, I simply don't know. How is one going to stop a spliced in compound which has saturated every cell in the body? How is one going to survive? What about an insidious mutation though that escapes recognition?

    I am not being alarmist here - I am sharing just the tip of the iceberg of some of the documentation (anyone can do the searching and compiling of the data) - it should speak for itself, that the double edged sword exists, and the technology is potentially in the hands of some amazing people, and possibly in the hands of in-experienced "students", or let's go out on a limb and say enemy combatants, or terrorists.. (just trying to see where the plus and minus limits are) but right now it's in the hands of HAND CREME marketing groups, to make wrinkles go away.. (sigh), at what expense to the progeny? India is starting to compile statistics (see the article I mentioned above).

    I truly am at a loss here for solutions.

    Possibly counter-measures would consist of creating micro-machines of a similar nature, basically creating a "nano-immune system", something which goes after "the signature of enemy machines" seeks them out and destroys them..

    That means MORE research in this field, not less, as Genie is clearly out of the bottle and about.

    If the existing nano-dna structures have been created to bypass one's own normal immune system where are we? What normal natural immune system reaction will recognize those nano-particles which escape the normal protection mechanism? How can we determine who is working on such, where and under what over-sight? What safety mechanisms are in place?

    I would say, the questions I first asked are important as I believe it helps to find a way for a solution:

    Quote What has been assembled by whom, such is controlled by whom, and for what purpose? Has it been deployed?
    Obviously we are seeing deployment HAS happened in the guise of about 600 products, (someone needs to compile that list and make it known to the people) - someone needs to address the consequences of having such in one's body, or in the environment (or food chain)...

    In the discussion, it was never fully touched upon the weapon-ized uses of for instance a DNA cage nano-structure containing a toxin or specific bio-genetic agent capable of targeting key DNA sequences. The science, it has been stated by university folk, can develop it "as desired" (but it is talked about in the open that they just insert a small simple "drug" for delivery).

    I just finished reading a document put out by the British Royal Society describing how nano-technology may be considered as a type of weapon covered in part by the International Biological weapons Conventions.

    We need folks to jump on this and get the questions answered that I posed. I can't do this alone, and we really need the assistance of some great folks who understand the implications..

    thanks..

    BTW, here is a pix of a DNA-nano-structure, any resemblance to the Andromeda Strain particle is of course PURELY COINCIDENTAL....


    (from Wiki the Sierpinski DNA Scaffold Triangle Structure)
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    Default Re: "DNA Nano-Technology" triggering

    NanoProject Org reports there are up to 1600 products worldwide now using nano substances.

    This directory page below allows one to BROWSE the list of known published producers and users of such. ( Directory shows all products as of the date of publication, advertising or containing nano-structures, such as microprocessors (not that anyone is going to eat or break open a microprocessor chip and handle it but such might be a concern with electronics recycling places, i.e. nano-materials "in-the-air" from recycled electronics being crushed).

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/browse/

    One can also look at some risk factors here by the same organization:

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/browse/exposures/


    Here is an example of one of the "interesting" nano-products, nano-aluminum, like just what one needs, a way to get aluminum in to brain cells (sigh), great lubricating product, super slippery.. Just dab with your finger (no way) on the screw that needs to be prevented from sticking in the thread... How many mechanics may be doing such a thing I wonder? Oh they say, it makes a great cosmetic, just put nano-aluminum on your skin, your face to handle wrinkles.. (deep sigh)

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/p...umina-powders/



    This page below, really surprised me; I never thought that sunscreen, something we all are supposed to be using to prevent skin cancers, would have nano-particles in them, and is used by some manufacturers whom I really thought would never do such things...

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/b...ess/sunscreen/

    And the claims in this one are particularly interesting, they claim they use GOLD nanoparticles..

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/p...rgizing-cream/

    Oh no - please not candy containing Nano-Particles

    http://www.nanotechproject.org/cpi/b...nies/mars-inc/

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    Titanium Dioxide (TiO2) one will see is in many cosmetics, foods, beverages.. here is a report saying how studies were performed to show that titanium dioxide nano-particles can be present in tissues trans-dermally, and the indication suggests that such presence in certain tissues is responsible for fetus and sexual problems..

    http://jhs.pharm.or.jp/data/55(1)/55_95.pdf
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    Who's working on it?

    http://cmsimg.montgomeryadvertiser.c...-kill-diseases
    Alabama State's Dr. Shree Singh, third from right, talks at the NanoBio Summit

    Oct. 19, 2013

    Quote "Lots of nanotechnology research is being done at universities and throughout the country,” he said. “That’s where most of the innovations will happen in the next 50 to 100 years."
    Quote Singh’s department received a $1.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health earlier this year to expand its work and train more students. Although the work being done at ASU is important, Singh said it is crucial to bring together scientists from different areas so that they can collaborate.

    That led to the first NanoBio Summit this week at the Renaissance Hotel, where more than 250 leading researchers gathered to exchange ideas and present their work.

    Presenters came from as far away as Northwestern University and the University of North Texas discussing a range of ways their work could advance modern medicine.

    Quote “Lots of diseases happen because of bacterial or viral infection,” Singh said.

    “There would be new nanomaterials (inserted into your body) which could target a specific bacterial virus.

    The virus may be in your body, and (specific nanotechnology placed in there) can target it before you even get sick.”
    ref: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/...-kill-diseases

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    This is particularly interesting - similar to the "Manhattan style thrust" to develop the Atomic bomb, or the current brain scan program being governmentally instituted to "figure out how the brain works, and where is information stored, accessed, and triggered.."

    "A few seats are available for no-cost nanotechnology technician’s training beginning Oct. 28 and ending Dec. 7 at the Applied Technology Training Center, 114 S. Del Rosa Drive in San Bernardino."

    "The training includes 45 hours of Phase I: Introduction to Nanotechnology. Phase II and Phase III consist of lectures and on-the job training in the fundamentals of nanomaterials, nanoenergy and nanomedicine."

    Wanna be a pseudo-nano-scientist with what basically constitutes a "workshop"?

    That they feel people can be trained in 45-50 days says how easy this technology is to work with, and that it is readily available, and one can obtain raw materials, and start production. That scares me. Where is the oversight?

    Tell me again how students even so briefly trained will now virtually overnight, understand the moral implications, the ethics, the legal, consequences of nano-technology synthesis?

    And these "trained" technician-students when done with their free courses can be turned loose on the world armed with probably the most potentially horrific but potentially earth changing technology mankind has ever seen?
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    This ought to be one of the biggest issues concerning the average US citizen.
    Sadly for the thinking minority, most people don't care about things they can't see.
    Thank you for the very good images and examples in this thread -- very well written and organized.

    It reminds me of the ethics complaints made by James D Watson when he criticized the actions of J Craig Venter in regards to Venter's usage of "EST" tagging.

    In fact, Venter's people were involved with putting ENGINEERED GENES dictated by computer analysis into the Swine Flu vaccine when Obama was being elected, etc.
    They were asked to provide a synthetic gene sequence and were able to deliver said sequence to the NIH within a 3 day window.

    People are worried about "real time" network monitoring when they don't even realize, our DNA can also be modified in real time.
    It's actually quite a bit worse than the NSA.

    Geneticists are clearly acting on the knowledge they ILLEGALLY glean -- oh wait, didn't they "catch Osama" by faking a vaccine campaign in his region and looking at the ESTs?

    People did not riot when they heard this?

    Bobd has addressed an extremely important topic here.

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    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    This ought to be one of the biggest issues concerning the average US citizen.
    Sadly for the thinking minority, most people don't care about things they can't see.
    Nanotechnology:
    it is so diverse from biomedical, to paint, to food, to putting the stuff in clothing even! on tools, on paper, in cosmetics, emissions from Jet Engines, Automobile Engines, Ship Engines, Diesel Engines, Locomotives..



    Factory production, Coal Fired Power Plants, Commercial incinerators each generate nanoparticle toxic pollution

    Would a MOD consider making this thread sticky?

    thanks

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    chemtrails must be an automatic part of this too, maybe?
    unite, alright :hippie:
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    I think we need to ask Sway, what is the particle size that exists in the aerosol.

    The critical area appears to be particles smaller than 50 nanometers can be easily absorbed, if they contain a metal core plus an organic coating or consist of a carbon skeleton structure, or a carbon helical structure all the studies are saying those particles that size do penetrate. The danger window as far as size goes, appears to be in the 5-30 nanometer size range..

    IF the issue really is, aerosolized nanoparticles coming from combustion sources exhausts, i.e. diesel engines (nano-soot), or kerosene burning engines running a rich mixture (?) generating micro-soot and if the particles are in the critical region, they definitely can be absorbed by the tissues.

    One of the articles I read today on a trade journal site (NanoParticles.org) showed that certain particle sizes will if inhaled pass into the brain via the olfactory nerves.

    There is a lot of research needed.

    This is the type of equipment needed to search for nano-particles, it's expensive and not many people have it or understand how to take proper samples. EDUCATION and funding is needed and telling people what is happening and WHY they need to be concerned.


    Some sites are saying the lubrication agents (containing nano-particle structures to make the oil more slippery, preventing seizing and binding) if they get into the combustion process itself could be the sources of the nano-particles..

    I think your question is a great one !

    (ed: - see the next couple posts on AEROSOL NANO-PARTICLES, very revealing !)
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    ive read that chemtrails are meant to be inhaled, or absorbed into skin. it looks like a huge connection.
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