"DNA Nano-Technology" triggering

[Bob]

Sheldon K. Friedlander & David Y.H. Pui , of UCLA (University California, Los Angeles) put together a document called "NSF Aerosol Particle Report", its intention to present and focus on“Emerging Issues in Nanoparticle Aerosol Science and Technology (NAST)”

Summarizing, what the report goes over details that indeed there are atmospheric particles smaller than 100 nanometers, and particles which exist in the critical range below or <50 nanometers.

I will excerpt some quotes from the article and then get into some discussion about significance of these points.

Fundamentals of Nanoparticle Aerosol Formation - Particles form in gases by various mechanisms.

At least 3 types of nuclei (core particles) were activated when atmospheric air was saturated during "adiabatic expansion",
Def: "Adiabatic" - Changes in temperature caused by the expansion (cooling) or compression (warming) of a body of air as it rises or descends in the atmosphere, with no exchange of heat with the surrounding air.) Expanding air creating cooling and condensing, in other words, is the significance.

1) existing aerosol particles at saturation ratios near unity (1:1 ratios of background carrier gas and particle/molecule present),
2) ionized (electrically charged) gas molecules at higher values than super-saturation and
3) water molecules themselves at much higher super-saturations.

The above defines the parameters needed for how a cloud can appear in the presence of small nucleation starting points (like microscopic seed points form starting locations from which the rest of the condensing process can continue, making up larger and larger (and visible) particles (or droplets if moisture is condensing).

Applications are to reducing major uncertainties in the global radiation balance, especially the poorly understood "indirect effects" produced by nuclei that modify the global cloud cover and the hydrologic cycle. Other important applications are to aerosols produced when hot vapors from pollution sources are injected into the atmosphere.

In 2003, the date of the report, conference and workshop, representatives of several important official organizations attended:
1) NIST, Gaithersburg, Maryland
2) EPA, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
3) NSF, Arlington, Virginia
4) California Air Resources Board, Sacramento, California
5) NIOSH, Cincinnati, Ohio

as well as numerous university participants (Yale, Caltech, Carnegie-Mellon, UCSD, University of Colorado, Kansas State, Clarkson University, Washington University, University of Minnesota), and industry participants.

One of the topics discussed was: Formation of Atmospheric ultrafine particles (UFP's) - with diameters less than about 0.10 µm (under, or < 100 nanometers, or nano-particles..)

These nanoparticles are formed from gases by a variety of gas-to-particle conversion processes.

There are at least three sources of gases, which may be converted to particles.

UFP's may be formed at high temperature sources and emitted directly to the atmosphere. Some processes may emit hot supersaturated vapors, which undergo nucleation and condensation while cooling to ambient temperatures. Chemical reactions in the atmosphere may lead to (new) chemical species with very low saturation vapor pressures. (At altitudes for instance)

These chemical species may form particles by a variety of nucleation processes. UFP's are particularly important in atmospheric chemistry and environmental health.

Toxicological and epidemiological evidence linking respiratory health effects and exposures to UFP's has been increasing over the last several years.

More recent toxicological studies indicate that ultrafine particles are most potent in inducing oxidative stress.

UFP's (pass thru the cell walls and) also localize in (cellular) mitochondria where they induce major structural damage.

Clearly (as much as we can read in the scientific terminology), these scientists have stated that there are nano-particles in the atmosphere and have determined that the particles do indeed form through the combustion process. They also say:

There is a fundamental lack of information on how (all the methods that) nanoparticles form and grow to sizes that can serve as cloud condensation nuclei (CCN) and affect the earth’s climate.

Little information is also available on the concentrations or physical/chemical properties of UFP's in places where people live and work.

Studies focusing on heath effects are also needed to identify mechanisms by which UFP's induce cellular damage and generate oxidative stress, how they penetrate the cellular structure, and how the above effects depend on (their) chemical composition.

This information is essential in reducing emissions of UFP's that are a risk to public health. Finally, there is a need to better detect UFP's that pose a biological threat.

They know that these nano-particles are participating in cloud formation.

And they know that the nano-particles (UFP's) are dangerously "oxidative", that the concentrations of the nano-particles seem to be lodging in the cellular "mitochondria" (the mechanism of the cells where energy formation happens), and inducing major damage.

They know that engine exhaust does indeed form nano-particles.

They know that there are engine exhausts emitting particulates in the atmosphere; they know that there are wood burning, coal burning, gas burning fires.

I should also point out that OIL/GAS well associated gas "FLARING" has been recognized as a major source of nano-soot, and a major cause of world global air pollution, so much so that the World Bank has said it will no longer provide loans to countries wishing to develop their oil and gas resources if they FLARE (burn off the associated gas at the wellhead).

Oil/Gas well flaring

And they know that these nano-particles are indeed a Biological threat.

They know that nucleation and rapid growth occurs as hot pollutant exhaust gases mix with cooler air in the ambient environment.

Can we draw a conclusion then that NORMAL engine exhausts in the high altitudes of flight will produce nano-particles? If we look at the above science, one would say yes, such does naturally form.

What the scientists at this conference say also is, the nano-particle formation tends to STAY within a close area to the emission source.

If the emission source is moving then, can we assume that a "trail" of nano-particles would be formed?

Whether or not the nano-particles then would proceed to grow larger, and move out of the critial size window <50 nanometers size, is determined by the amount of saturation of vapor present at the temperature the particles are formed.

When the super-saturation forms, the nucleation allows for particle agglomeration, or growth to happen, finally to the point of visible "clouds".. At the point of visual cloud formation, the particles are PAST the size of the <50 nanometer sized dangerous window.

That observation about when it becomes VISIBLE, the particles are larger than the critical danger window (<50 nanometer sizes) - and such begs us to connect some dots.

If the emissions happen (and we know they do), and if there is not super-saturation (the air is dry), then there will be virtually invisible particles under or <50 nanometers formed.

That being the case, the exhaust trails WITHOUT cloud (contrail) formations could very well harbor the dangerous particles.

Will the particles dissipate? We assume that they do as clouds can be seen to grow larger or "evaporate" under different conditions.

At what rate, when dissipating will the particles aggregate, or become larger, and out of the dangerous window, <50 nanometers?

We simply don't know the answers to these questions and the scientists during the 2003 conference made it quite clear that they don't know either..

What these folks have said, is there is indeed aerosol nano-particle production during the combustion process and exhaust emission into the atmosphere.

(more to come)

[Bob]

Nano-Aerosol Health Effects - (from the research report above)

Background:

An emerging literature indicates that ultrafine particles (UFB's or NanoParticles <50 nm) are more toxic than the rest of ambient particulate matter (normal dust, visible smoke).

Recent epidemiological studies have found an association between exposure to ultrafine particles and mortality due to respiratory or cardiovascular disease.

This association was strongest for UFP (<50nm sized nanoparticle) concentrations expressed as number concentrations. Toxicological studies also indicate that these nano-particles, unlike larger particles, are capable of penetrating the cellular membrane, where they create an inflammatory response by means of generating oxidative stress and causing damage to the mitochondria.

ref: Sheldon K. Friedlander & David Y.H. Pui , of UCLA (University California, Los Angeles) put together a document called "NSF Aerosol Particle Report", its intention to present and focus on “Emerging Issues in Nanoparticle Aerosol Science and Technology (NAST)”

Control of automobile tailpipe emissions: most ultrafine particles (UFP <50nm nanoparticles) from motor vehicles are produced after the exhaust gases leave the tailpipe; an understanding of the mechanisms of nucleation, growth, and transport is needed to control such emissions by causing formation to occur in a control device or by controlling precursor vapors prior to exiting the vehicle.

The mechanism of combustion of the hydrocarbon fuel, plus the expansion of the exhaust into the atmosphere results in said formation - it is not possible to stop formation when the internal combustion process occurs in the existing configuration of exhaust systems. This is a critical observation.

It is unknown if burning hydrogen will create a "safer" tailpipe emission where the nanoparticles rapidly aggregate to form particles larger >100 nanometers in size, bypassing the danger size window. Electrochemically hydrogen nanosized particles could easily combine with other reactive nano-particles such as free soot "carbons" from emissions from conventional hydrocarbon engines.

Worldwide map of nano-particle aerosol distribution:

(click for larger map)

[Bob]

How small are these Nano-Particles ?

It's hard to show it on a screen as these are basically invisible except under powerful electron microscopes.

Here is an example compared to some known items - a Hair, some sand, and some simple "dust" particulates - all are 1000 times larger than the critical particle sizes, but you get the idea, these things are very small..

[Bob]

Aerosol Paper - NANO-PARTICLES
from DIESEL engine Exhaust

Summary, the nano-particles happen when the hot gases expand, cool and nucleate. The dangerous particles do indeed form, the <50 nanometer sized window.

D.B. Kittelson

Center for Diesel Research, Mechanical Engineering Department, University of Minnesota,
111 Church St. S.E., Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55455, USA

presented at the meeting on

CURRENT RESEARCH ON DIESEL EXHAUST PARTICLES
JAPAN ASSOCIATION OF AEROSOL SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

9 January 2001
TOKYO, JAPAN

[Bob]

Combustion of a fuel to generate heat, light, power creates particles. We have ignored the nano-particle creation since fire was first discovered.

One could call it the Prometheus Syndrome really, that we never knew until recently that the exhaust gases contained items more toxic, more dangerous than simple carcinogens, (tars, oils, or carbon monoxide). We have since the first time FIRE was allowed to burn, to allow it's gases to expand into the atmosphere - allowed these nanoparticles have been formed, and inhaled, ingested, or otherwise taken in by the body and the surroundings.. We just didn't know the damage being created..

We certainly know that we need combustion to drive engines, to fly our jets, to move our vehicles, to heat our homes.. BUT we are outputting dangerous nanoparticles in the process. It is TIME that we move away from combustion and go to direct heat sources, catalytic conversion sources, solar/heat/tidal/thorium where heat is converted cleanly into motive force, into power, into useful work.

There are ways to in a solid state manner convert a hydrocarbon fuel, or a hydrogen fuel, or an alcohol fuel, or a diesel fuel directly into electricity, or secondarily using "heat engines" to drive electrical generators, to run electric motors. The emission of the nanoparticles would be reduced to zero using those methods. This is a critical moment for our planet and all life. We have so much emission happening, we are saturating the environment and ourselves with nanoparticles, and the environment and the living organisms are showing the assault, in different types of sickness, manifesting.

Looking at the graphic, this shows the particle distribution in mass and size, from an exhaust from burning a fuel. These particles form when the high temperature gas combines with the colder air, the formation of nano-sized nucleation points, or seed points. Notice the size and quantity of the danger zone particles formed.

(from the PDF report in the previous post)

[chocolate]

I completely agree with Tesla that we most of the times do not care about what we don't see. That is why most people don't care about auras, sixth sense, invisible energies, the whole thing about the possible and the not possible. But I know the biggest problem is that people don't know about most of this. Everyone is so busy chasing the wheel that have no time nor desire to stop what they are doing and look around. Lack of interest and desire to observe and know. This is just an opinion, no offence to those who still are unaware, everyone in its own time.

Bob, I know this is one huge issue. Together with the electronic waves that have stuffed the space all around us, and the rest of the chemical test we have been sentenced to endure. Not to mention the black nano substances some people have been talking about (the black goo as some call it).
I think this problem needs to cease to exist, and it needs this to happen fast.

[Bob]

Hi Chocolate - I know and I am finding more that we are planetwide boxing ourselves into a corner.

These nano-particles that are being produced even by COOKING on the stove, are being absorbed and clogging up the energy producing areas of the cells. These things are the size of viruses and can easily do damage similarly..

We have to present to folks what is going on with the combustion of fuels, the moment that hot exhaust gas expands, the particles form.

Then they stick around unless they are nucleated to larger particles.. Like how folks are concerned about contrails, the visible emissions, what is not being connected is that the emission of the nano-toxins ARE there without the visible emission.

When they see it, they are worried about contrails, but I am going to say it again, the engine exhausts ARE producing the toxic sized particle when the gas expands from the exhaust. When it becomes visible, it is becoming safer, the bigger the cloud the more the particle have become bigger (and safer from the nano-particle size). If there are metals up there, the nanoparticles can latch onto them, or if they are present in the fuel, they make the larger substances dangerous.

Exhaust emission from this gas to particle formation appears to be the world-wide leading cause of atmospheric emission..

I can easily see weapons designed out of this, totally insidious, unknown that such happens, this could be as simple as tossing a designed substance into a fire that causes the fire to liberate copious quantities of nano-particles. And those nanoparticles then get absorbed by the lungs, transported to the cells, and when inhaled by the nose, the particles can reach the brain directly..

I think looking at the nano-particle concept will explain a LOT about these insidious and mysterious diseases forming that don't seem to be attributed to bacteria or viruses..

Thank you for your observation...

More need to hear about these nano-particles, so that we can ask the right questions and come up with the right solutions.. There is a lot of good that can come out of it, and the sooner the better..

[Bob]

22 October - Al Jazeera

Currently on Inside Story, (news in perspective around the world), they are interviewing experts from China, Brasil, US and Mexico on the problem of Nano-Particle pollution.

The scientists group consensus is right now CHINA, the terrible smog pollution happening is laden with nanoparticles plus larger nucleated particles which are visible. They have also stated this is ultra-serious, is the product of combustion processes from engines exhausts from vehicles, coal fired power plants exhaust emissions and a weather anomaly keeping the pollution in place.

Basically substantial information of the above subject matters within the above posts dealing with the technical aerosol nano-particle production were discussed. There is no solution because China intends to grow as does Mexico, and that means more burning of coal for electrical power, and more burning of diesel and gasoline to run vehicles. Even though there are extreme pollution standards for the vehicles in China, higher than in Europe or America, these emissions are so pervasive, the particles build up and build up. The mechanism of when the hot exhaust forms and expands into the cooler air, the particles ARE formed, and there are NO systems in place to stop that, prevent that or diminish that..

The scientists say intense heart disease, cardiovascular disorders, breathing problems, and cancers are the outcome - it is a VERY VERY substantial health problem is being mentioned over and over. They say it costs money to try to find ways to remediate, and they simply will not spend the funds to develop the actual solutions. All talk, no do in other words. And people continue to suffer. The mistake is the discussion is moving to some type of switch over to a LOW carbon economy, the result never-the-less is, when the HOT gas expands, nucleation happens when it cools, and the nanoparticles happen.. they have NOT connected those dots..

ref: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ch..._132821046.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ch..._132821019.htm

"BEIJING, Oct. 15 (Xinhuanet) -- China says that it has allocated five billion yuan, that’s over 800 million US dollars, for curbing air pollution in six provincial regions in northern China.

(UPDATE China removed (censored?) the image off their news service apparently, the image is now found elsewhere)

The list includes Beijing and Tianjin, the provinces of Hebei, Shanxi and Shandong, as well as the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region. The funds are merit-based. These regions won’t get the money until receiving an assessment of their efforts next year.

Reduction of PM 2.5, a key indicator of air quality, will be taken into account. Other benchmarks include initial pollution reduction targets and investments in pollution treatment."

The issue with an allocation is, getting the funding to develop actual solution takes years and years, and business growth, vehicle use, power plant expansion continues, and therefore the pollution levels continue to rise.

I know people in South Korea who have said they can SEE the yellow smog appear from the west as it drifts eastward, eventually contributing to weather anomalies in the Pacific and the Western US.

[penn]

Bobd,

What about John Searl's Magnetic motor? I remember a video where he is standing in front of a wall waterfall and stated that the longer the motor runs it will clean the air.

Penn

[Bob]

Hi Penn, well that's a magnetic and electro-static type of device. Good thought, if anyone can get Searl's system running effectively, doing things like gravity compensation, that may be a good way to get off the ground, and not use jets, or gasoline engines. I wonder though about the fuel to get it spinning..

Another Forum member asked if we would need to have personal air filters to wear. It may take some type of sensor results constantly being published by the news services, wire services, and some great internet Forums, just reminding folks it's not what we are seeing, when we are seeing it visibly, the particles are already out of the highest danger category, and in the category that deals with breathing difficulties, lung inflammation, bronchial inflammation..

I am sure the right type of enclosed space filtering systems can be developed, and probably pretty soon people will see incidence of "sick building syndrome" may start to diminish and health rapidly start to improve.

It, I guess, will be when we go outside into an urban environment what will we be breathing in. Remediation definitely is going to be a big thing. Lets see how cost effective it could become.

Bob

[penn]

Maybe selling it as an air purifier would be the way to go. Eventually it might be able to be used as intended.

[Zephra]

I believe Morgellons has come from this nano technology. This is a very important topic, Thank You BobD.

[Snowflower]

There are a lot of good reasons to not use skin care products, not eat factory prepared foods, not live in highly polluted areas, and not drink treated water. Other than that, what can we do about this? I'm already doing everything I can for health reasons. So, I simply cannot add one more thing to my list to worry about. I have to put it into the column of: this will disappear when civilization crashes. Otherwise, I might just go nutsy.

[Bob]

Posted by Snowflower (here)
There are a lot of good reasons to not use skin care products, not eat factory prepared foods, not live in highly polluted areas, and not drink treated water. Other than that, what can we do about this? I'm already doing everything I can for health reasons.

So, I simply cannot add one more thing to my list to worry about.

I have to put it into the column of: this will disappear when civilization crashes. Otherwise, I might just go nutsy.

Hi Snow Flower

I think what the first step is, is what we are doing - IDENTIFYING that there is an issue, then we look for WHERE is it coming from (who is creating it, why, how often does it happen (like the WHEN))

I am working on the documentation step, of the stuff exists, and what it does (based on the case studies), and seeing WHO is doing it and why (a lot of folks think this stuff is the best thing since sliced bread, able to be a wonder-machine (if used right), if used wrongly it will destroy all life, make the planet uninhabitable until the structures causing the issues erode.

To me it means legislation and education - education to show what's happening, why and what happens when the nano's get loose.. The critical sized nano-particles are the sizes of viruses and smaller ! That's pretty significant when we realize how easily viruses can get into everything.. And viruses demonstrate that they can duplicate themselves and virtually prove to be unstop-able by normal means.. (heck maybe being able to stop nanoparticles may be we can learn how to fully kill off viruses !! weoh !! knew there would be a nano-silver lining in there somewhere !)

So Nano-Aerosol Particles, the stuff in the air from COMBUSTION of fuels is a big problem that affects everyone everywhere - it's in the air and that air circulates around the planet.

We have to switch to different means to generate electricity, and to move vehicles. We need clean energy generation. Zero emission energy generation means no burning stuff that has an exhaust gas of some kind that ends up in the atmosphere.

We have to stop creating fires - that's a hard one, but things like OIL WELL and NATURAL GAS associated flaring is the equivalent of 70 million cars running 24/7 annually (World Bank ref: http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/pre...aring-increase )

We have to heat factory furnaces by other means than oxidizing fuels (burning fuels, oxygen/air plus hydrocarbon fuel, either gas or liquid or coal).

We can't deal with the nanoparticles created by the evaporative effects from seawater and lakes, nor can we deal with the volcanic emissions, nor can we simply allow the VENTING of the methane and other hydrocarbon emission from natural organic reactions (swamp gasses, sewage biodegrading). There are ways to deal with landfill gas emission and sewage treatment, but such needs to be captured not burnt nor vented.

Years back folks thought that the release of chlorine atoms from freon (refrigerants) was an issue creating ozone depletion, but what was neglected, and basically hidden and ignored was the combustion process itself releases the nano-particles, so this convenient sleight of hand, move attention from the tailpipe to the air-conditioner. We were made "bad" for wanting to have a cool home or office or vehicle, but industry changed to ozone friendly gases as refrigerants which supposedly minimized ozone depletion. I don't think there has been a study yet on the NEW OZONE friendly refrigerants - something on the TODO list..

Then what I am saying is emission control, legislation, education are needed steps.

Emission control systems CAN be built for vehicles that travel on land or water. It's going to look a bit different for a tail pipe, but I believe it can be done.

The air vehicles, planes.. that is another story. I believe it could be done, but there is going to need to be a lot of research on particle quenching techniques on the exhaust, that will not hinder engine performance and needed thrust. My feeling is when this is accomplished a LOT of people world wide are going to be relieved.. I think a lot of pollution, particle plus noise clearing is going to happen with that step.

I feel it ultimately comes down to this: New methods of transport are needed. That is the best way, to release the hidden technologies and save all life on the planet. The naivety though to say that will happen in a money $$$ based shortage manipulated economy is snowball in hell chance odds.. Maybe somebody will realize life is more important than $$ dunno there.

Personal and building air cleaning systems that will reduce at least 99.9% or more of the harmful range nanoparticles can be produced, I have started to look at the technologies for that, and will start to look at how models of such can be created..

** ED: UV plus electrostatic UNI-POLE (one polarity, pbly ideally negative ions), plus an activated Carbon, Plus HEPA would address a lot of the nano-particles, PLUS address the larger organic Volatile substances. These things do need cleaning and maintenance as how one changes a water filter over time. - I would think all-in-ones are possible, but no doubt there are numerous specialty systems available which use one or more of the needed steps. The idea is to get the nano-particles to nucleate (clump) and get attracted to the electrostatic charged collector plate in the air cleaner system. If it clumps in the filter, it's not going to then do it in the lungs or skin if one can get it out of the air we breath.

As to a personal system to take with one.. HEPA filters come close to removing particle larger than 300 nanometers, which is a lot of the smoke and soot, but they don't touch the nanoparticles which are coming out of the tailpipe. I think I can envision a system that could be a table top module that could attract such particles, something like how a bug-light attracts insects, where the particles would rather combine in the "cleaner" than go into one's lungs.. just thinking out loud here..

The questions HAVE to be asked as you are asking them..

Thanks...

Bob

[Bob]

Posted by Zephra (here)
I believe Morgellons has come from this nano technology. This is a very important topic, Thank You BobD.

Good thought there Zephra ! Without getting in the Monsanto stuff here, with how they create a transgenic (through the genes) modified food, like splicing in spider venom toxins into food to make caterpillars and other insects die when eating the GM food, they use VIRUS transposons (natural viral mechanisms that act like micromachines, or nanomachines) to splice in the new foreign spider gene. Those TRANSPOSONS the viri are supposed to DIE before the genetic modified crop is started. The reality is those transposons HAVE been found in the wild.

What if these nano-machines have been virtually created by viral transposons plus cellulose formation genes (from the plants), and a new splicing agent is out there, which transposon splices a cellulose making gene into the skin of Morgellons affected people? Sounds like the mechanism to me how it works, and how it got there. I don't believe Morgellons was out there until GM foods were created and released in the wild. That's my feeling.. Ya, some type of micromachine, either nano-machine with some mixing of the viral and nano-systems.. maybe accidental, maybe some weapon getting loosed..

ref: transposons and RETRO-VIRUSES see http://www.bioinformatics.nl/webport...osonsinfo.html
its a good read...

And to cap it off, these same transposons, and retro-viruses are also readily accessible to college "students" wanting to do gene splicing, about the same amount of safeguards and techniques used as with nano-particle manufacturing - no oversight, build your own nano-virus machines - oh my God..

[Bob]

23 October 2013 Update - Beijing "Smog"

I follow numerous trade Journals from around the World, in various disciplines, various industries so I can keep up on what people are talking about. I found this today in Canadian Manufacturing, a trade journal site which primarily deals with helping to keep local Canadian Industry members up to date on local events. They have been following what is happening in China and there is a lot of Chinese investment in Canada's businesses.

Here is what caught my attention:

"Vehicle emissions are blamed for about a quarter of Beijing's pollution, with coal-fired plants and factory production blamed for most of the rest.."

"The (restriction/control) measures require precise pollution forecasting and timely public notification to be effective, and there was obvious skepticism in the questions asked by Chinese reporters at a briefing announcing the emergency measures.

"They apply only to industries and individuals in Beijing, despite the fact that as much as 60 per cent of the city’s (Beijing's) air pollution wafts in from neighbouring provinces, such as Hebei to the south.

“We have no control over Hebei, but this is a national priority and we hope we can be a positive role model,” Fang Li, vice-director of the city’s Environmental Protection Bureau, told reporters.

"A sprawling city of more than 20 million people, Beijing saw air pollution levels spike this year despite imposing more than 100 control measures that are enforced with varying strictness.

"Vehicle emissions are blamed for about a quarter of the pollution, with coal-fired plants and factory production blamed for most of the rest."

I find it interesting that there is "skepticism" that any type of control measure is going to do anything to curb these pollutions.

My understanding is, the primary source of the problem is NOT being addressed, the <100 nanometer sized particles. The range of particle emission on the BOTTOM end of the scale, from 5-100 nanometers in size, are what "nucleates" and clumps upwards, and the "alarms to off" when the particle size is PM 2.5 or above at a certain density (2.5 microns equals 2500 nanometer sized particles).

Trying to deal with when it becomes visible in that 2.5 micrometer range and larger, ignores the invisible source of the particles and there are more sources of particles in the 5-100 nanometer range than just autos trucks trains and factories. So they will never solve the problem and it will get worse and worse.. unless all the nanoparticle are addressed.

[sheme]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jajYw1j2O5o



https://youtube.com/watch?v=njXTvLaUFm0





A most important thread Bobd, one I have sent myself a ref to.

[Bob]

new Thread update

I have become aware of something "new" in the way of nano- technologies as related to direct brain nervous system control, and the technologies shown are very do-able and have been demonstrated by the producer scientists.

The control range of such to perform in-real-time modification, or "tuning adjustments" to fine adjust activity based on the program is not more than a few feet at best, more like one's head would have to be inside a MRI machine, in a doctor's office in a special machine, a "chair"..

I am not sure exactly which sub-forum to place this in. It is not a conspiracy, it is not an accepted medical technology or a new science. It is a control technology using nano-science.

[Bob]

Every plant that is not Hydro-electric, or nuclear, solar or geothermal, in short those that BURN and emit a hydrocarbon are generating nano-particle pollution. It could be carbon nanoparticles, or metal nanoparticles, or ceramic oxides (a type of metal oxide dust).

[Sidney]

I hadn't seen this thread before. A good one. I appreciated your solution directed thinking!!!!!