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    You are right bobd, there are many problems with pollution with regards to the issues you point out, however the theme of this thread is pertaining to the shiit they are dumping in the sky via tanker jets. If you have studied Clifford Carnicoms work [..]
    Thanks for reading the NanoParticle thread Sidney Thing is though I read what Sheme was asking for was a solution to the ALUMINUM coming from nanoparticle emission (and how to get ALUMINUM out of the body using a special type of water).

    Below I point out it is really highly logically improbable that high altitude jet emission can create anything down low on earth, and point out very accurate measurement methods to verify that such is not present in jet fuel emission..

    I have pointed this out before, the systems that can REMOTELY actually analyze jet exhaust or car exhaust, or volcano exhaust, all emitters of nanoparticle pollution and toxic gases, are what is called an optical Open Path Fast Fourier transform infrared analyzer system. (Optical FTIR).

    What it consists of is a telescope, front surface coating, which will reflect infra-red wavelengths pretty well without losses. The information travels into a spectral analyzer, which analyses the chemical constituents from what it is pointed out REMOTELY, non-invasively. Based on something called Beers Law, the amount of concentration of the emission source can be detected.

    ref: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17458466 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18581812 and http://oldimages.vertmarkets.com/crl...mg6176copy.jpg


    Pointing it into a VOLCANO, a major source of toxic gas generation, way more than any jet can produce (Tungurahua volcano Ecuador is producing 1500 TONS of SO2 gas which creates sulfuric acid for instance per day):


    What this instrumentation is is scientific undeniable documentation technology. It shows REMOTELY what it is pointed at, what is present where it is looking. It shows the chemical species, the concentrations. In other words, no one can hide what they are emitting.

    Such a device pointed UPWARDS into contrails will show the content. But we can for now simply use the emissive amount from fuel burning to compute actual volumetric emission that is possible in a contrail, and compare it against ground based sources which are more highly likely to be the actual pollution sources, since ground based monitors is what have been used to document "air quality".

    However, whenever this technology is mentioned for actually documenting pollution sources, very shortly, there are derailing attempts.

    Sheme asked about chemtrails, what are they really, and some solutions, mentioning aluminum (as you know, many conspiracy websites say "they are spraying aluminum").

    I pointed out the obvious, that there are very strong and copious sources of emissions - testing monitoring stations are for ground based testing, which many of those local air testing values point out that at-the-ground levels of pollution, are showing aluminum, and other toxic substances.

    The question then is can a "chemtrail" formed at altitudes above 30,000 feet to 41,000 feet fall down to the ground in sufficient quantities after intense dilution. The nanoparticle stay aloft. This has been pointed out in this thread.

    It doesn't seem likely that something up in such altitudes 30,000 feet that is not rain, but an aerosol, meaning a finely divided charged floating particle, is going to make it to the ground easily and in any timely manner.

    What though IS already on the ground, which can act up and get folks reactive? Ground air pollutions, exacerbated by ultraviolet stimulation, or other photo-stimulation creating noxious byproducts.. (photo-smog for instance).

    In fact nanoparticles remain aloft until they combine with water or dust, nucleate, grow larger and cease to be a chemically active problem.

    What does happen with particles aloft is that LIGHT quality is changed with hydrocarbon, and/or aluminum "up there" (which would remain aloft cause of the small size). One can only assume that there is aluminum up there based on reading conspiracy websites, but not reading scientific upper air sampling websites.

    I have a theory that specific combinations of wavelengths of light can be used to trigger the absorbed nano-particles which came from GROUND based emissions. The ground based emissions would have been the aluminum sources, the carbon sources of nanoparticles...and they are massive. The earlier OP in this thread talks about how a nanoparticle antenna can be created to specifically respond to light wavelengths. I would believe a specific nanoparticle could be created that would be specifically triggerable from OPTICAL nanoparticles. It though would be a pretty haphazard maneuver though to predict when the right time would be to fly jets at altitude to create an optical trigger to affect people on the ground who have absorbed nano-particle antenna molecules in them.. There would be better methods such as a flu epidemic (viral particle release) which would be predictable. And readily deployable with precision. Flying with the variables up there is simply not a reliable method.

    It is easier to add a couple gallons of metals/toxins at a gasoline depot and have such emitted en-masse at ground level when the fuel is burned, than it would be to try to get many thousands of gallons of metals up in the 30,000 and higher foot range altitude to spray something which won't fall to the earth fast enough in sufficient quantities to account for the amount of metal showing up in air monitoring stations.

    We are going to work out the numbers:

    But a coal fired power plant puts out ( see http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...-power-plants/ ) 1100 pounds per megawatt hour of carbon nanoparticles. A typical coal fired power plant of average size is 500 megawatts per hour.

    That then for ONE average sized coal fired power plant is 550,000 pounds of carbon nanoparticles, every hour or 275 tons per hour. For a day that amount comes to 6600 tons of carbon nanoparticles every day. In that coal, there is aluminum, and all the other toxins mentioned in an earlier post.

    Comparison wise, a single 747 jet will burn 96 tons of fuel during an 8 hour transatlantic flight for instance. Of that burning Jet fuel (which is pure devoid of the other elements present in coal), the carbon nanoparticle output is based on this formula: 1 ton of burnt jet fuel emits 3.15 tons of gaseous carbon bound to oxygen. The jet will burn an average of between 20,000 and 30,000 pounds (10-15 tons) of fuel per hour during an average flight. Assuming an average 12 tons per hour, for an 8 hour flight, the total carbon output is 96 x 3.15 or 302.4 tons. The carbon nanoparticle output per hour for that jet becomes 38.8 tons per hour.

    Comparison, JET 38.8 tons per hour nanoparticle creation, Coal fired power plant 275 tons per hour nanoparticle creation. Which is worse? The jet lands in 8 hours, the power pant runs 24/7 continually. 7 Jets would have to be flying continuously over ONE spot of land to emit the same amount of nanoparticle amounts as ONE stationary ground based power plant. The reality is, the jet is moving. And it is moving fast. Let's look up at the sky from horizon to horizon and take a look at how much distance is there linearly that we can see a contrail in.

    Considering that the jet now is moving let's say 565 miles per hour, what portion of that nanoparticle is present per hour to come up with a dispersion rate? The jet takes 10 minutes to travel from left to right let's say in our field of view. That's like 9.4 miles per minute. So what are we seeing then "up there" in nanoparticles? How much? Computing, 38.8 tons per hour, divided by 60 minutes exposure time, to get an deposition rate of .646 tons per minute. Multiply that times 9.4 minutes, and we have a total "up there" deposition of about 6 tons in that visible contrail.

    Remember an average 500 mgawatt coal fired power plant is putting out 275 tons per hour at ground level, and that is easy to mix with ground air couple hundred feet up. Jets are flying 30,000 feet up and above, not an easy mix to ground level air.

    So to actually create a density equivalent, comparing a bunch of jets to ONE coal fired power plant, we would need 275/6 or 45 jets per hour above us all creating contrails. Doesn't happen does it? Then there is the problem of trying to get something 35,000 feet up somehow down to the immediate earth below it. The particles float, they don't immediately sink. Big problem with "the contrail logic of pollution".

    Let's add in the next obvious pollution source - auto engines (this is an extremely conservative example at that)

    Running this on a car, for a 4.7 litre engine size idling, like stuck in a traffic jam, about .6 gallons per hour will be consumed. How many pounds of carbon nanoparticles is that? 19.64 (per gallon of gasoline) multiplied by .6 or 11.784 pounds per hour per car emitted, idling stuck in traffic. How many cars in a traffic jam?

    see: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/carmaged...a-traffic-jam/ - Carmageddon, 64 MILE long traffic jam.. (oye).. 50,000 cars average assuming 6 lanes stuck for one hour.. ONE ROAD, the 405.. that's 589,200 pounds of carbon nanoparticles emitted, or 294.6 tons of those particles in the air.

    AT GROUND LEVEL at that per hour in a stationary location.. 294.6 from automobiles ! That is just a little above the amount of a single coal fired power plant produces per hour every hour for 24/7.

    AND can we ignore that there are 2782 Coal fired power plants emitting toxic nanoparticle pollution continually, not just for ONE HOUR during rush hour like autos do?

    Gee, One would need 49 planes per hour making continual contrails to equal one hour of rush hour traffic. From vehicles stuck idling in traffic for an hour... oye.

    One major road, in LA, stuck in traffic, 294.6 tons, at ground level; not up at 35,000 feet up where a small 6 ton visible contrail would be formed from a major transcontinental jet.. One would need 49 planes per hour making continual contrails to equal one hour of rush hour traffic. Rush hour goes on for more than one hour usually.. How can we forget that?

    And the point is like in LA, or UK, there are way more than just ONE ROAD too, that gets traffic jammed during the day. Multiply the above figures by 10 or so to be more realistic with traffic issues. Realistically one could expect close to 3000 tons per hour for a major city during stuck rush hour traffic (that would be close to 500 planes flying overhead in an hour !)

    Let's add in the emission from UK, from China, from India and the world is innundated by such nanoparticle pollution. When conditions are right, when water vapor levels are right, nucleation is going to happen and particles become larger and visible (then they get noticed). But they are at the deadly stage long before being visibly noticed ! That was pointed out previously in earlier posts in this thread.

    What's wrong with the contrail/chemtrail conspiracy? Other than they never worked out the actual math, nor understood the mechanism that keeps particles UP in the air at altitude, nor studied or understood how nucleation works.

    BUT chemtrail conspiracy gives one something to blame, and it gives one something to point fingers at, and of course, for the actual perpetrators, the hydrocarbon burning purveyors, it lets the real pollution generators hide in plain sight! And people continue to let that happen, is that ODD or what?

    A lot (of) the blame seems to not be grounded (literally) in understanding emission amounts and aerosol distribution concepts (dilution issues are ignored by the conspiracy buffs).

    The point is very clear, we are being DISTRACTED looking up at water vapor aggregation binding nanoparticles from planes, when there is an immediate need at ground level to deal with that pollution and toxin issue. The numbers above show why. It is simple really.

    How many coal fired power plants around the world? (statistically averaged based on coal/tons per gigawatts produced) - 2782 plants.

    Times 275 tons per hour or 765,050 tons per hour for the world's coal fired power plant nanoparticle production. That is insane. Such happens 24/7

    US - 589
    China - 1028
    India - 224
    Japan - 82
    Germany - 85
    South Africa - 76
    Korea - 70
    Australia - 54
    Russia - 51
    Poland - 44
    All other - 418

    How many trans-Atlantic flights per day? (and they don't fly all week, just a couple times per week is the average) but, let's say there are 350 each 8 hour long flights worldwide.. And let's assume every one of them is "spraying", how much possible tonnage of nanoparticle is coming out of their engines? Refreshing our memory, 302.4 tons of nanoparticles for the 8 hour flight.

    Times 350 flights, the total airborne emission for a day's flights comes to only 105,840 tons for aircraft transoceanic flights or transcontinental flights of 8 hours.

    Compare now 8 hours of the world's coal fired power plants emissions: that is 765,050 tons per hour times 8 hours, or 6,120,400 TONS from the coal fired power plants for the equivalent amount of time that jets could possibly do.

    The logic says the power plants put out about 57 times MORE nanoparticle pollution, including lead, cadmium, uranium, thorium, carbon, aluminum.. than all the transatlantic flights per day.

    To say the small amounts from jet travel is doing ANYTHING of any significance compared to ground based nanopollution sources does not hold any merit in my simple opinion looking at the numbers.

    To say that one is seeing "severe spraying" and that is affecting someone from the pollutants present in the jet contrails, immediately "falling to earth", one is not grounded in the data of aerosol dispersion. http://intellectualventureslab.com/w...per-300dpi.pdf When the volcano Mt. Pinatubo in 1991 it spewed ash into the atmosphere (nano-particle sized) where the jets fly at altitude. 2 years later the particle were still circulating, not having reached ground.

    If one is feeling something, take a look at ground based sources... Don't be distracted by the visible contrails, and look at the poisons coming from the ground based sources. It can't be any clearer explaining. I will do up an article about ALUMINUM in the environment since folks seem to be saying aluminum is coming from fuel burning (spraying from jets). Let's find out really where the aluminum is coming from.

    Summarizing:
    • One hour of rush hour traffic in a major city like LA, during a traffic jam, can cause more nanoparticle pollution than 500 jets can flying overhead. Put that into perspective when you say, "they are spraying" and you feel it immediately..
    • Coal fired Power plants put out about 57 times MORE nanoparticle pollution, including lead, cadmium, uranium, thorium, carbon, aluminum.. than all the transatlantic flights per day.
    • Aerosol particles in the upper atmosphere, above 30,000 feet (where the contrails can form) remain aloft for 2 years or more before falling. It is impossible to get such aerosols from anything called "spraying" to immediately reach the ground to create any effects.
    • If metallic aerosols (or other modificants) are distributed for "climate control" or warfare or other hostile use, it needs to be mentioned that high altitude release (>30,000 feet where contrails would form) of the aerosols that such would remain aloft and not fall to the ground immediately - (that would be the logic of performing high altitude seeding for climate control for instance).

      There is international legislation prohibiting the attempts of any such use. The use of remote sensing FTIR optical open path spectrometers would be a verification method to show treaty violation. No such violations have been noted since the treaty was signed by major nations worldwide, including the US who signed in 1977. International monitoring is in effect to ensure compliance.
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    According to Clifford Carnicoms research and also many independent researchers who have taken literally hundreds of air soil and water samples suggests that the huge toxic amounts of Aluminum that is present in the soil air and water is indeed fallout from these chemtrail programs, as the barium (the other main component in the geoengineering formula) amounts are also sky high.

    There are many many researchers that are doing these tests through various laboratories, during and after a spray assault. And the conclusion is that what goes up, does indeed come down. I have witnessed this myself on heavy spray days, of the morning after a night of spraying there lingers a blue haze everywhere, as if there were a forest fire, without the fire. This blue haze is the spray that does indeed come down. If there were no chance of it falling out of the sky, then they would not have to keep spraying year after year after year. Simple gravity.

    And really, without having to argue where it is coming from, it doesn't matter where it comes from really, but the fact remains lots of people suffering symptoms of heavy metal issues and the planet is in trouble.

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    According to Clifford Carnicoms research and also many independent researchers who have taken literally hundreds of air soil and water samples suggests that the huge toxic amounts of Aluminum that is present in the soil air and water is indeed fallout from these chemtrail programs, as the barium (the other main component in the geoengineering formula) amounts are also sky high.

    There are many many researchers that are doing these tests through various laboratories, during and after a spray assault. And the conclusion is that what goes up, does indeed come down. I have witnessed this myself on heavy spray days, of the morning after a night of spraying there lingers a blue haze everywhere, as if there were a forest fire, without the fire. This blue haze is the spray that does indeed come down. If there were no chance of it falling out of the sky, then they would not have to keep spraying year after year after year. Simple gravity.

    And really, without having to argue where it is coming from, it doesn't matter where it comes from really, but the fact remains lots of people suffering symptoms of heavy metal issues and the planet is in trouble.
    ROFL.. seriously. The heavy metals are not from contrails, that was the point. The metals are from the ground based pollution sources. IT IS important when some tries to distract one saying its coming from the JETS in chemtrails (really contrails), and that DIS-information IS a dis-service, again no doubt the conspiracy lies in the distraction from internal combustion engine hydrocarbon burning, no different when LEAD was added to FUEL. Lead is a heavy metal, and was emitted into the atmosphere when gasoline contained lead. People are toxic from mercury being emitted, no question, from the lead emitted previously, and from the continued emissions from Coal Fired Power plants.

    It makes perfect sense to point out where it is coming from so solutions can be derived. Not from pointing to the skies where a mathematical impossibility exists. Be logical makes the most sense.

    Deal with the ground based pollution sources. We need to address that - this whole thread points out the nano-particle dangers, and their sources.

    The solutions deal with nano-scavengers, something to combine with the particles to create more affinity than DNA for instance, or water for instance. It's a dangerous issue and it is getting worse. Distracting people pointing them to water vapor contrails which simply do not contain sufficient nanoparticles and claiming that they would immediately fall to the ground and cause a toxic reaction is not fair in my opinion. Such is disinformation and bad science.

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    According to Clifford Carnicoms research and also many independent researchers who have taken literally hundreds of air soil and water samples suggests that the huge toxic amounts of Aluminum that is present in the soil air and water is indeed fallout from these chemtrail programs, as the barium (the other main component in the geoengineering formula) amounts are also sky high.

    [..]
    I want to point out ALUMINUM is present in the soil naturally, and from studies actually done by real scientists, http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=1076&tid=34, some quotes:

    "When a substance is released either from a large area, such as an industrial plant, or from a container, such as a drum or bottle, it enters the environment. Such a release does not always lead to exposure. You can be exposed to a substance only when you come in contact with it. You may be exposed by breathing, eating, or drinking the substance, or by skin contact. However, it should be noted that aluminum is a very abundant and widely distributed element and will be found in most rocks, soils, waters, air, and foods. You will always have some exposure to low levels of aluminum from eating food, drinking water, and breathing air.

    If you are exposed to aluminum, many factors will determine whether you will be harmed. These factors include the dose (how much), the duration (how long), and how you come in contact with it. You must also consider any other chemicals you are exposed to and your age, sex, diet, family traits, lifestyle, and state of health.

    Aluminum is the most abundant metal in the earth's crust and it is widely distributed.

    Aluminum is a very reactive element and is never found as the free metal in nature. It is found combined with other elements, most commonly with oxygen, silicon, and fluorine. These chemical compounds are commonly found in soil, minerals (e.g., sapphires, rubies, turquoise), rocks (especially igneous rocks), and clays.

    Aluminum as the metal is obtained from aluminum-containing minerals, primarily bauxite. Aluminum is refined in CANADA and other major producers.

    Aluminum metal is light in weight and silvery-white in appearance.

    Uses

    Aluminum metal
    Aluminum is used to make beverage cans, pots and pans, airplanes, siding and roofing, and foil.

    Powdered aluminum metal is often used in explosives and fireworks.

    Aluminum compounds
    Aluminum compounds are used in many diverse and important industrial applications such as alums (aluminum sulfate) in water-treatment and alumina in abrasives and furnace linings.
    Consumer products
    Aluminum is found in consumer products including:

    antacids
    astringents
    buffered aspirin
    food additives
    antiperspirants
    cosmetics

    Aluminum occurs naturally in soil, water, and air.

    High levels in the environment can be caused by the mining and processing of aluminum ores or the production of aluminum metal, alloys, and compounds.

    Aluminum is released into the environment from coal-fired power plants and incinerators. Incinerators burn WASTES, garbage, aluminum CANS dumped and not separated from garbage is another source of atmospheric free-floating aluminum. Increases in industrialization, increases in incineration are contributing causes to ALUMINUM pollution in the environment.

    Aluminum compounds may be added during processing of foods, such as:

    flour
    baking powder
    coloring agents
    anticaking agents
    An average adult in the United States eats about 7–9 mg of aluminum per day in their food (from additives)

    People are exposed to aluminum in some cosmetics, antiperspirants, and pharmaceuticals such as antacids and buffered aspirin.

    Antacids have 300–600 mg aluminum hydroxide (approximately 104–208 mg of aluminum) per tablet, capsule, or 5 milliliter (mL) liquid dose. Little of this form of aluminum is taken up into the bloodstream.
    Buffered aspirin may contain 10–20 mg of aluminum per tablet
    Vaccines may contain small amounts of aluminum compounds, no greater than 0.85 mg/dose.

    Most people take in very little aluminum from breathing. Levels of aluminum in the air generally range from 0.005 to 0.18 micrograms per cubic meter (ìg/m3), depending on location, weather conditions, and type and level of industrial activity in the area. Most of the aluminum in the air is in the form of small suspended particles of soil (dust).

    Aluminum levels in urban and industrial areas may be higher and can range from 0.4 to 8.0 ìg/m3.

    The concentration of aluminum in natural waters (e.g., ponds, lakes, streams) is generally below 0.1 milligrams per liter (mg/L).

    People generally consume little aluminum from drinking water. Water is sometimes treated with aluminum salts while it is processed to become drinking water. But even then, aluminum levels generally do not exceed 0.1 mg/L. Several cities have reported concentrations as high as 0.4–1 mg/L of aluminum in their drinking water.

    You cannot avoid exposure to aluminum because it is so common and widespread in the environment.

    Exposure to the levels of aluminum that are naturally present in food and water and the forms of aluminum that are present in dirt and aluminum pots and pans are not considered to be harmful.

    Eating large amounts of processed food containing aluminum additives or frequently cooking acidic foods in aluminum pots may expose a person to higher levels of aluminum than a person who generally consumes unprocessed foods and uses pots made of other materials (e.g., stainless steel or glass). However, aluminum levels found in processed foods and foods cooked in aluminum pots are generally considered to be safe.

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    That's where the aluminum comes from. What concerns me is the aluminum nano-particles emitted from cement plants, from coal fired power plants, from incinerator waste burning that contains aluminum foils, or cans, or aluminum containing waste products..

    Aluminum is deliberately put into water supplies for phosphorous control, and other wastewater treatments.. where it finds its way back into the environment.. http://www.generalchemical.com/asset...Wastewater.pdf - "Aluminum sulfate is commonly applied to lakes and reservoirs to precipitate out the soluble phosphorus, which will eventually settle to the lake bottom.

    One can't escape aluminum pollution from sources OTHER than the claims that such is deliberately "sprayed" from jets to harm people. It's sprayed all right, but from deliberate water treatment applications. It's everywhere in waste products dumped and burned, like from foods.

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    Yep, it is all that ..and the 'bioavailability' of the given aluminum particle, what form it is in, when the human body encounters it.
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    Fantastic article, good find ! thank you.

    "[..] the researchers describe how they created several nanobot structures using strands of DNA, injected them into a living cockroach, then watched as they worked together as a computer to target one of the insects cells.

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    More aluminum nanoparticle pollution sources:

    ref: http://www.aluminiumleader.com/en/serious/industry/ - all u wanted to know about the aluminum industry that they want to tell you about.. Aluminium has been used for for just over 150 years and has been put into the environment in ever increasing amounts by the refining process, by incineration of wastes, by coal burning.. and numerous other sources.

    "Resources of bauxites, the raw material for aluminium, are not widespread throughout the world. There are only seven bauxite-rich areas: Western and Central Africa (mostly, Guinea), South America (Brazil, Venezuela, Suriname), the Caribbean (Jamaica), Oceania and Southern Asia (Australia, India), China, the Mediterranean (Greece, Turkey) and the Urals (Russia). The main deposits of high-quality bauxites with high aluminium content (not less than 50%), are already divided by the main players."


    "Аlcan is the Canadian aluminium manufacturer, which is over 100 years old. Today, the company is one of the leaders in the world’s aluminium industry, producing bauxites, alumina and aluminium. It is one of the three largest manufacturers of structural and packaging materials. Its production volume for primary aluminium in 2006 was 3.4 mln m.t. The company has 68,000 employees, including joint ventures. Alcan operates in 61 countries."

    "Chalco or Aluminium Corporation of China Limited is the largest manufacturer of aluminium and the only manufacturer of alumina in China. The company was founded in 2001 during the privatization of Chinese aluminium industry. In 2006 Chalco has produced 9.2 mln m.t. of alumina and 1.6 mln. m.t. of aluminium. All the assets of the company — 4 plants, manufacturing both alumina and aluminium, one purely aluminium and two purely alumina plants, plus, an R&D Institute — are located in China. Chalco does not have representation in Russia."

    There is a list of refineries and refractories (those places making high temperature heat resistant bricks and fireproofing materials) shown here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alumina_refineries

    they say the map can be located by using this link:

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=http:...26usecache%3D1

    See where you are located with respect to the ALUMINUM refineries (where they crush the rock then melt it evaporating large quantities into the atmosphere).

    Here is one of the bauxite mines in Canada (open pit mining operation):


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    Controlling the brain with flashes of light - http://www.nih.gov/news/health/apr2014/nimh-24.htm

    "Scientists have bioengineered, in neurons cultured from rats, an enhancement to a cutting edge technology that provides instant control over brain circuit activity with a flash of light. The research funded by the National Institutes of Health adds the same level of control over turning neurons off that, until now, had been limited to turning them on."

    Thomas R. Insel, M.D., director of the US National Institute of Mental Health, a funder of the study said, “It creates a powerful tool that allows neuroscientists to apply a brake in any specific circuit with millisecond precision, beyond the power of any existing technology.

    "This will be vital for understanding brain circuits involved in behavior, thinking, and emotion.”

    A flashing light pattern on a computer screen implanted in YouTube video? Why not? NIMH would be very interested in ways to get control, precisely, wirelessly and use one of the great new media tools, the internet and watching videos. (I have repeatedly said, the trend is to say well "i don't watch MSM, TV all that..." while those same people are ignoring that youtube videos have way less control as to what content is inside of them than any MSM would.)

    Deisseroth’s team had pioneered the use of light pulses to control brain circuitry in animals genetically engineered to be light-responsive — optogenetics.

    How this is done to create the modified DNA in the Neuron:

    Chemicals are extracted from photo-algae, and melded with genes that make fluorescent marker proteins, then they are fused to a deactivated virus. That virus then is trans-infected to the host cell(s) that delivers them to specific types of neurons which they become part of — allowing pulses of light to similarly commandeer brain cells. (see my threads on GMO's, GMO Corn)

    Stanford bioengineers and their colleagues recently discovered the crystal structure of channel-rhodopsin, the protein borrowed from algae to achieve optogenetic control of neurons and that is fused to the virus transfector agent.

    ref: http://www.nih.gov/news/health/apr2014/nimh-24.htm

    from "The Game" Star Trek

    This same technique has been adapted to control MUSCLE cells - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0404140303.htm
    "The light-responsive motor neurons that made the technique possible were created from stem cells by Dr Ivo Lieberam of the MRC Centre for Developmental Neurobiology, King's College London.

    "We custom-tailored embryonic stem cells so that motor neurons derived from them can function as part of the muscle pacemaker device." says Dr Lieberam, who co-led the study. "First, we equipped the cells with a molecular light sensor. This enables us to control motor neurons with blue light flashes. We then built a survival gene into them, which helps the stem-cell motor neurons to stay alive when they are transplanted inside the injured nerve and allows them to grow to connect to muscle."
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    Adjectives can be unnecessary most of the time, but I feel that this one here is needed:

    Horrific

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    Quote Posted by Limor (here)
    Adjectives can be unnecessary most of the time, but I feel that this one here is needed:

    Horrific
    It may not be strange that they chose a cockroach to do this to, as that brain has been mapped out very well.

    Praying Mantis' are in the same general insectavoria as cockroaches and termites. Order of Blattodea.

    With the discussion of Mantis "ET's" in other threads, maybe the "alien" idea of brain control could be part of what the "insect" mind would naturally and easily do to anything it encounters. If Mantids are like Praying Mantids, the order of Blattodea have the indiscriminate characteristic of eating everything they can get their mandibles and spiked forlegs into.

    In Men in Black towards the end of the movie, Agent K (Tommy Lee Jones) calls the "Bug" an overgrown Cockroach. It resembles one of the Mantids, and it is not kind, not interested in humanity, in fact, it says before it reveals itself, that it want's a human snack while it is traveling back home..

    Maybe that mindset of doing nanobot brain control (using insect brains for now), is all part of a mindset that is not what one would call the normal human view of compassionate evolution.


    Friendly face, maybe not so much... oye..

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    Quote Posted by Bobd (here)
    [...] Maybe that mindset of doing nanobot brain control (using insect brains for now), is all part of a mindset that is not what one would call the normal human view of compassionate evolution.
    Interesting question. Concerning the Mantis ETs, here is one of the latest version:

    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Ender's Game white mantis:

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    One would think Buares, with images like that going around, stuff that horrors are made of, no wonder brain scientists are enjoying trying to make controllable cockroaches. "I don't suppose you know what kind of alien life-form ( turns to agent J ) leaves a green spectral trail and craves sugar water? Zed, we have a bug. "

    One would think that movie maybe was offering some hints..

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    More brain control using light

    In San Diego currently brain researchers are meeting and are ga-ga over new techniques to control the brain using light.

    SAN DIEGO – Karl Deisseroth is having a very early breakfast before the day gets going at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience.

    Thirty thousand people who study the brain are at the Convention Center, a small city’s worth of badge-wearing, networking, lecture-attending scientists.

    ref: http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle...256438321.html

    For Deisseroth, though, this crowd is a bit like the gang at Cheers — everybody knows his name. He is a Stanford psychiatrist and a neuroscientist, and one of the people most responsible for the development of optogenetics, a technique that allows researchers to turn brain cells on and off with a combination of genetic manipulation and pulses of light.

    Cast of Champions

    Cori Bargmann of Rockefeller University, who is a leader of a committee at the National Institutes of Health setting priorities for its piece of the brain initiative, said optogenetics is a great example of how technology can foster scientific progress.

    “Optogenetics is the most revolutionary thing that has happened in neuroscience in the past couple of decades,” she said. “It is one of the advances that made it seem this is the right time to do a brain initiative.”

    At the heart of all optogenetics are proteins called opsins. They are found in human eyes, in microbes and other organisms. When light shines on an opsin, it absorbs a photon and changes.

    Deisseroth, 42, who has won numerous prizes and received plenty of news media attention for his work on optogenetics, is quick to point out that there is no sole inventor for this technology.

    “It’s not as if one person had a eureka moment,” he said. “The time had come, and it was a question of who had put the resources and effort and people” on the task, and who would get there first.

    We can thank Rockefeller University, and the National Institutes of Health to have a new way to program, modify, alter and map the brain.

    What does having an OFF switch for the brain mean?

    Think about it. A cop can eventually flash a light sequence at your eyes, and instantly you go paralytic. Can't move, drop to the ground frozen. That's the security use not talked about but is the reason funding comes from government sources for this type of research.

    Of course the neuroscientists will talk about how well this new technique will let them study epilepsy or some sort of brain issue.. While the funding comes in for dark uses of the technology.

    ED NOTE:

    See in my DARPA thread, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...563#post840563 the posts talking about CURRENT UCLA San Diego articles being published on RAT neural triggering, memory erasure, and re-activation of FEAR memories.
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    Bobd, I accused Blizzard of doing this thru blue light once, lol, maybe i was crazy to accuse them directly, but certainly their investors know of the tech...

    i wrote a hate letter to blizz before the rash of mass murders involving their game happened, that their game would be likened to a drug,
    that it was destroying the pineal and visual brain, hijacking the soul of humanity lol

    poor Blizz



    /Tesla shakes head lol

    p.s. but being on facebook too long and playing wow does cause insomnia because of blu light....

    also turn off the blue on avalon at night haha.


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    I think Tesla, the photo-dye added to a DNA nano-engine infective" "keyed to specific light frequencies and the order of such would have to be the method to get the "engine" in there into the nervous system - they would have to know where to splice in the tags. Else what they would have is simply a generic ON-OFF switch.. Still though, acting like those goats who faint, sure is not an acceptable future.

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    Quote Posted by Bobd (here)
    I think Tesla, the photo-dye added to a DNA nano-engine infective" "keyed to specific light frequencies and the order of such would have to be the method to get the "engine" in there into the nervous system - they would have to know where to splice in the tags. Else what they would have is simply a generic ON-OFF switch.. Still though, acting like those goats who faint, sure is not an acceptable future.


    Indeed... although surveillance + stimulation together are a very dynamic tool indeed.
    Knowing when to trip someone out is as important as how...

    *tickle*



    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1026084356.htm

    Quote Optogenetics allows scientists to control certain cells in the brain using light, leaving other cells unaffected. In order to do this, the relevant cells are equipped with genes for a special light-sensitive protein. The protein makes the cells react when they are illuminated with light from a thin optic fibre which is also implanted in the brain. The cells can then be "switched on" when they are illuminated.

    "If we get signals as a response to light from the host brain, we know that they come from the transplanted cells since they are the only ones to carry the light-sensitive protein. This gives us a much more specific way of studying the brain's reactions than inserting an electrode, which is the current method. With an electrode, we do not know whether the electric signals that are detected come from "new" or "old" brain cells," explains Merab Kokaia.

    http://discovermagazine.com/2012/sep...f-light-switch

    Quote Deisseroth’s technique, known broadly as optogenetics, could bring new hope to his most desperate patients. In a series of provocative experiments, he has already cured the symptoms of psychiatric disease in mice. Optogenetics also shows promise for defeating drug addiction. When Deisseroth exposed a set of test mice to cocaine and then flipped a switch, pulsing bright yellow light into their brains, the expected rush of euphoria—the prelude to addiction—was instantly blocked. Almost miraculously, they were immune to the cocaine high; the mice left the drug den as uninterested as if they had never been exposed.

    For all its complexity, the brain in some ways is a surprisingly simple device. Neurons switch off and on, causing signals to stop or go. Using optogenetics, Deisseroth can do that switching himself. He inserts light-sensitive proteins into brain cells. Those proteins let him turn a set of cells on or off just by shining the right kind of laser beam at the cells. 
That in turn makes it possible to highlight the exact neural pathways involved in the various forms of psychiatric disease. A disruption of one particular pathway, for instance, might cause anxiety. To test the possibility, Deisseroth engineers an animal with light-sensitive proteins in the brain cells lying along the suspected pathway. Then he illuminates those cells with a laser. If the animal begins cowering in a corner, he knows he is in the right place. And as Deisseroth and his colleagues illuminate more neural pathways, other researchers will be able to design increasingly targeted drugs and minimally invasive brain implants to treat psychiatric disease.

    Optogenetics originally emerged from Bio-X, a multidisciplinary project spearheaded in part by Stephen Chu, then a Stanford physicist and now the U.S. Secretary of Energy. Bio-X takes some of Stanford’s best engineers, computer scientists, physicists, chemists, and clinicians and throws them together in the Clark Center, where an open, glass-clad structure makes communication unavoidable. Deisseroth, whose beat-up jeans and T-shirt practically define the universal academic wardrobe, proved a natural at working across disciplines. Over the past decade, his omnivorous quest has filtered far beyond Bio-X into a thousand institutions around the world.

    Although his Bio-X work involves esoteric genetics and animal experiments, Deisseroth has never forgotten the human needs that motivated him in the first place. He still divides his time between his basement lab and the psychiatry patients who desperately need his research to pay off.










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    We are already all exposed to nanotechnology. They are using diamond nanotechnology now ..really we are breathing in diamonds now.
    I'm told it's for urban warfare. I guess the old graphite nanotechnology they used for years isn't good enough enough anymore. I guess
    we were breaking them apart too easily with stabilized oxygen pills and essential oils. I guess they needed something harder.

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    I am not liking this nano tech one bit! Is there a way to cleanse ones self of this foreign nano sh..?
    yes, Dr. Hildegarde STaninger in los angeles helped me. She saved my life.

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    Nano technology can kill if left untreated or sufficient doses are absorbed..

    A scientist reports that she really harmed himself exploring nano-particles

    "Poisoned nanotech scientist’s case exposes unknown dangers of new particles" is how the article starts

    "A report published this week in the American Journal of Industrial Medicine told of a Harvard University study examining the little-known field of nanotoxicology, the potentially poisonous properties of these futuristic substances.

    "The report told of a 26-year-old chemist who used nickel nanoparticle powder at a work bench with no safety procedures in place such as a breathing mask or ventilation hood. Over time she began having throat irritation, facial flushing and nasal congestion. Her skin began to react to the nickel posts of her earrings and a belt buckle that touched her stomach.

    "Medical tests showed that the scientist had developed an allergy to nickel. In time, she became unable to return to work due to her recurrent symptoms."

    What is significant here, besides understanding this stuff is serious, is that hypersensitivity reactions that people have can be coming from nano-particles. Taking vitamin D simply doesnt clear it out of your system..

    This has been experimentally duplicated in rats and mice. It is not theory.

    "“That is what makes this case is so important,” the report said. “It provides documented confirmation of a human handling nanoparticles in the workplace and developing health effects, specifically allergic sensitization, breathing problems, and rash. The concern among toxicologists is that these particles may cause unknown effects at even tiny doses and therefore lead to longer term health problems like cancer.”

    "Nanoparticles are being used in virtually every sector of the manufacturing and tech industries. "

    the video from the article:


    <iframe src="http://videos.rawstory.com/video/What-is-Nanotechnology.-This-Vid/player?layout=&amp;read_more=1" width="416" height="321" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

    the link to the page:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/1...new-particles/
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