Who, really, is Barack Obama? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE TRUTH.

[Referee]

more from AJ and Man Cow....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XPKRXyJlw8Q

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Unfortunately, gradually, I'm starting to believe that Alex Jones is just a fear porn trader and is confusing people on purpose.

Everybody knows that acting coaching is common in politics, all over the world. This is not a secret. I don't believe Alex Jones doesn't know that, even for a second.

So, honestly, there's no other reason for him to keep pushing this "Harry Lennix trained Obama" key besides to deliberately manipulate people.

Alex Jones seems to be one of the good guys, but he certainly has got his own agenda. His journalistic style is far from being balanced and impartial.

Raf.

[Curt]

Jones is a libertarian and feels Obama is a Marxist, so I think his dislike of Obama is pretty visceral.

That colours the way he reads the information and how he tells the story.

But I tend to cut Jones some slack here. He's pretty up-front about his perspective, which is helpful for careful readers.

AJ does seem to be one of the good guys.

But he's like a dog with a bone when it comes to these sorts of red meat stories about Obama.

I question who is behind pushing this stuff to alt media sources, though. Who are 'they', and what's 'their' agenda?

That's how I look at all the news coming from media of any stripe these days: who's feeding them the info, and what is the reason it's being leaked out?

I want to know who's trying to spin me, what they want me to believe, and what might be the benefit to them in having me believe it.

The story behind the story is far more meaningful, I think.

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

Unfortunately, gradually, I'm starting to believe that Alex Jones is just a fear porn trader and is confusing people on purpose.

Everybody knows that acting coaching is common in politics, all over the world. This is not a secrete. I don't believe Alex Jones doesn't know that, even for a second.

So, honestly, there's no other reason for him to keep pushing this "Harry Lennix trained Obama" key besides to deliberate manipulate people.

Alex Jones seems to be one of the good guys, but he certainly has got his own agenda. His journalistic style is far from being balanced and impartial.

Raf.

[chocolate]

Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)
One of Bill's questions was why Obama was picked and groomed rather than someone else. Mentally I keep coming back to things Basiago said about his early training. It has been a while since I read his material but here is what I remember.

Supposably they had some device that allowed them to see into the future. Basiago remembers eating in a Albuquerque restaurant with his father and leaders of the program he was in. Bush and Bush Jr. had been seen as future Presidents and were glad handing at the various tables when they learned the news.

Much earlier, Basiago's dad brought him a document from the future and wanted him to read and remember as much as possible because the document was a book that Basiago would write in the future which he has done.

Apparently the program people were trying to enhance the future on this timeline. Perhaps that has something to do with the selection of Obama and his training.

Basiago's veracity is questionable because his testimony is way out there about black ops programs. However, other people in early Camelot interviews have also spoken about devices that allowed people to see into the future. If such devices existed, perhaps this is part of Obama's selection and training.

I have to go listen to this person on Project Camelot's youtube channel! He seems like my kinda guy.

For the record, I agree with Raf about Alex Jones. I never liked him nor I believe in anything he says.

But that doesn't mean Bill's question is not important.

[SilentFeathers]

As I said earlier in this thread, if Mancow is such "good friends" with Lennix as he claims, why would Mancow go public with Lennix's personal off camera/off mike comments about Obama without first asking permission to do so from Lennix, who is the real rat bastard here??????

Who treats their "good friends" like this? Mancow had to know this would basically go viral and cause all kinds of friction for his "good friend".

Personally it wouldn't surprise me if Lennix said these things about Obama, but so what? We weren't there and don't know the depth of truth or sarcasm Lennix was expressing.....all we know is what Mancow is telling us by being a rat bastard and betraying his "good friend", and now Lennix back pedals a bit but still claims his dislike for Obama (policy related).

Common sense tells me there's no way Lennix trained Obama and taught him everything he knows, that's just downright ridiculous IMO.

...and I'm not surprised Alex Jones ran with this story, it's what he does.

[childs hood end]

In order to take down rome
First you must bring down its army
Im not saying obama is a white hat
or that he will save us...
but every time he misbehaves he wakes up more people,
and draws more attention to government corruption than the whole
alternative media put together...
Im not saying obama will take down the corruption in the U.S gov.
But he sure is doing a fine job of waking up the sleeping joints that will.
Since obama come on the scene more people from all corners of the planet
watch or have bin drawn to American politics, and the going ons of governments...
(dont think hillarys or any other runners charm could have achieved this)
so in my opinion yes the placed agent obama is doing us all a huge service,
whether he knows it or likes it or not.

But on the other hand I have to say...
If obama was the evil dictator that had his ex gay lovers killed do you honestly think alex jones would have 2 legs... let alone a radio and news program.

I honestly cant see how its taking mrs pope all this time to come forward... and why now ?
and why should harry lennix be trusted anyway ?

Its clear that obama has kicked the old world powers in the face, (clearly shown in his speech over the English national anthem in the queens gaff).
and yes its clear hes paving the way for corporate powers...
its also clear False flags are becoming as common as Sundays... but it seems these events are actors Playing der part. I don’t know whats going on here ?
but it does mean someones is Choosing not to harm.
(the old world powers would not have bin so kind)
Are these acting false flag events to fool us or some one or some thing else ?

But i have to ask.... if people in power are mind controlled or have a
Knife to their throat from some being or entity, be it djing or the archons...
Which is probably the case...
Isn’t it possible that a small part of human left in them is trying like mad
To wake us up... maybe they know that this is der only hope.(being reckless)
i don’t think the trails left after 911 Were by mistake...
look at how many people 911 is still waking.
(maybe they will be reading in the history books of the future how the bushes
under mind control tryed to wake the masses and brake us out of our mind control with the 911 **** ups... we just dont know)

I honestly think that world goverments do work in our best interests as much as they possibly can get away with... but they have there necks in a noose all the time.
maybe to sacrifice a few saves the more.
this also makes me think that these evil entitys have seen the trails been left and are now trying to turn humanity on its goverments as the blame to save them selfs.

what i do believe is... its all part of the greater plan.
injoy the ride... coz ders no escaping death.
p.s
why obama... coz hes the right man for the job I suppose.

Peace.

[Joe Akulis]

That stuff about Basiago seeing the future, sounds like you're talking about project Looking Glass. Those without an aversion to David Wilcock can go to youtube and search on "2012 Enigma". You should find the video where he describes how Looking Glass works and how it was used. Seems the bosses figured out how the pineal gland operates and made their own device based on the same principle, or something like that.

[chocolate]

There are a lot of projects related to time travel and such. Pineal gland or another gland, some people simply can access the field without any additional technology, they simply have the gift of sight.

Also, for anyone familiar with practical remote viewing, like presented by Ed Dames, there are ways.
One point though. There is no future fixed as such. It all moves with everything else.

There is the theory that we are living in a time line created by Napoleon's visitation in the Egyptian Great Pyramid. So in order to change this time line someone needs to do it with that in mind [if one believes in this, which I do].

Link to James Horak & Robert Stanley - A Tale of two Timelines:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=58D7EVlCwoU

I am and will be listening to Andrew Bisagio. It is never too much for me.

But I am going outside the point of the discussion here, so
"Back to topic". or am I?

[amor]

Re: Who really is Barack Obama?
I have read the above with interest but not surprise, given the things I have read on Project Camelot about $3 billion in profitable speculation on $11 trillion given by the Queen, and everything presently there from a Whistleblower about the dangerous overlords of The City of London who have planned World War III, the nano-flu bug that gives pneumonia and kills in 12 days for which there is no cure and is planned for China, the nukes planned by provoking Iran (bring in China) and wipe out the middle-east, all before the Poles of Earth Shift leaving very few people alive. The MEN/ALIENS
who have planned this put Obama in. He is a patsey as much as all of us are. The Masons, Jesuits, Black Pope, Rothchilds are on the Group of 13. The Whistleblower says their time is short and they have to accomplish WWIII before the Planet Shifts, so that they can find themselves with their power in place when we are mostly dead. This is all so evil that I can only blame it on the REPTILIANS. However, we are at fault. Even if they own and control the police, military, etc., there must be real men in America who can drag these bankers off their thrones overnight and do to them what they are planning to do to us with those 30,000 guillotines which have been ordered with our tax money. Can you imagine what is being planned for your darling little children, separated from their parents who are sent to FEMA camps. Will they feed them to the Reptilians, their favorite meal? All this in the name of population reduction? The point being missed here is that there is no democracy. There should be assemblies from the local level to the very top groupings and short term limits. Education must include government, civics, etc. Be kind, fair and helpful to your neighbor and other countries and we will neither have nor need wars to keep the fat cats in power and luxury. Abolish corporations and foundations. That should help to put the vultures out of business quickly. Close down Wall Street, the gambling den. If you want a company's shares, write to them and purchase directly with no middle man involved. There must be no gambling on commodities. Farmers must get their fair return for their labor. There is nothing wrong with everyone growing their own food or along with the community. Why is Africa starving? Because the same vicious elite create conflict in Africa to abscond with their precious resources in order to build their war machines. Corrupt leaders are installed to do the bidding of the Elite. The state of elections in the world is a simptom of the underlying disease spawned by the City of London to control the world and since the existing offworld space program is operated by the Greys and Reptilians, it all appears to me to be a plot to destroy the human race and take over the planet. It is they who are destroying the Planet with Oil, Chemtrails, Pollution, etc., not us. The Elite will get what they deserve thereafter. Are there any real men left?

[Gaia]

A cocaine users and gay seems like a pretty good start for a career in politics...

[T Smith]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

Unfortunately, gradually, I'm starting to believe that Alex Jones is just a fear porn trader and is confusing people on purpose.

Everybody knows that acting coaching is common in politics, all over the world. This is not a secret. I don't believe Alex Jones doesn't know that, even for a second.

So, honestly, there's no other reason for him to keep pushing this "Harry Lennix trained Obama" key besides to deliberately manipulate people.

Alex Jones seems to be one of the good guys, but he certainly has got his own agenda. His journalistic style is far from being balanced and impartial.

Raf.

Hi Raf,

I think the key thing here is the "acting coaching" began in 1992, per the interview, four years before Barack Obama was even involved in politics. If this indeed is true, he was obviously being groomed by someone, well before he even entered the political scene. Could that someone be the deliberate ambition of Barack Obama himself, by employing a well-spoken actor to help advance his political aspirations? Maybe. But it is nonetheless a little unusual and presumptuous to jump to that conclusion. The question that should be asked, which nobody is asking, including Alex Jones, is who employed Lennix, who signed the check for his services, and why.

If the coaching began in 2006 I would fully agree with you. But the two were apparently acquainted well before Barack Obama was even involved in any political career, well before he was elected as junior Senator of Illinois. For these reasons, I give AJ a pass on this one.

[Tesseract]

This is an interesting thread, shifting and shimmering as it does between hyperbolic demagoguery, unfettered speculation and deep inquisition as to the nature of Barak Obama. Thanks to all the contributors.

Certainly history has recorded a number of contradictions in Barak Obama. While thinking about this issue, stimulated as I was by this thread, I came up with one question in particular which I am having trouble finding an easily acceptable answer to.

Barak Obama was quite sympathetic to the Palestinian cause in his younger years. I state that from memory of certain media reports, and I have not bothered at this point to research this premise myself. So, taking that at face value for now, the question is, how did it come to be that Rahm Emanuel would set Obama on the path to the White House?

[Tesseract]

Some assorted points, briefly:

- On the acting: Winston Churchil used to give speeches from the 2nd floor window of his (parents’?) house, to no one, to perfect his oratory. This training, if you like, began decades before he was to become prime minister. In my opinion, no big deal.

- On the issue of the dirt (if any of these claims are true) that may exist on Obama and how it seems odd that it hasn’t materialised into a scandal: it’s worth mentioning a parallel case. The former governor of California, A. Schwarzenegger, fathered a bastard child to his maid. At any time during his governorship, or even before, this could have been used to destroy him. Did no one know? Did the republicans themselves not even know before he was given the opportunity to run? They normally look for these things in order to prevent any such scandal. Just something to think about.

- A list of contradictions:

- Seemingly pro-palestine in the past, but in the present happy to provide Israel with bombs, cash and moral support even after operations Cast Lead and Pillar of Cloud.

- Seemingly anti-embargo on Cuba in the past, but seems happy to maintain the status quo as President.

- Apparently very angry when he was informed that he accidentally killed Abdul Rahman Awlaki (American teenager) in a drone strike, yet recently heard remarking about how good he is at killing people (with drones).

- Opposed war on Iraq, but wages war on Libya, Afghanistan and indirectly on Syria.

- Reaches out to Iran (wins nobel prize in part for this), and at the same time launches Stuxnet (an act of war in anyone’s book), sends military drones into their airspace and turns a blind eye to other sabotage and assassination operations.

- Pledged to close Guantanamo Bay prison facility, but since election seems to have no real drive to do so.

[Wind]

I hate to say this, but Alex Jones is controlled opposition. If he was genuine then no way he would have been able to do what he has been doing for years. I used to watch him, but I got tired of his aggresiveness and negativity. The way controlled oppositon operates is that they give bits of the truth and disinformation, after all their objective is to confuse people.

That fact doesn't make Obama any more trustworthy, though. After all we're living in a world based on lies.

[David Trd1]

Posted by Wind (here)
I hate to say this, but Alex Jones is controlled opposition. .

Conjecture on my part but I must say he(AJ) does seem to be on some sort of a ''payroll'' weather he knows it or not,(Directly or indirectly)there are also a few over at VT that keep harping on that he never mentions the roll Zionism plays in the spiderweb.Although in saying that many over there can`t see past that particular perspective either...But he has shakin` many awake over the years but many then replace one box for another as he espouses limitation for those who follow his words religiously.

Re Obama,a man of contradictions no doubt,and he still has over 3 years left(maybe) to his run. There is a significant PTB faction that really doesn`t want him there at this time it seems and that's dangerous for him,personally.Its the dangers in that regard that a sociopath will act upon i.e. Survival,which may make him dangerous/troublesome for his so called puppeteers. If he does have any independent faculties left that is,which is in serious doubt if his grooming has merit, Particularly when/if the general Org that is The C.I.A. are involved....

[Curt]

White space is your friend.

Posted by amor (here)
Re: Who really is Barack Obama?
I have read the above with interest but not surprise, given the things I have read on Project Camelot about $3 billion in profitable speculation on $11 trillion given by the Queen, and everything presently there from a Whistleblower about the dangerous overlords of The City of London who have planned World War III, the nano-flu bug that gives pneumonia and kills in 12 days for which there is no cure and is planned for China, the nukes planned by provoking Iran (bring in China) and wipe out the middle-east, all before the Poles of Earth Shift leaving very few people alive. The MEN/ALIENS
who have planned this put Obama in. He is a patsey as much as all of us are. The Masons, Jesuits, Black Pope, Rothchilds are on the Group of 13. The Whistleblower says their time is short and they have to accomplish WWIII before the Planet Shifts, so that they can find themselves with their power in place when we are mostly dead. This is all so evil that I can only blame it on the REPTILIANS. However, we are at fault. Even if they own and control the police, military, etc., there must be real men in America who can drag these bankers off their thrones overnight and do to them what they are planning to do to us with those 30,000 guillotines which have been ordered with our tax money. Can you imagine what is being planned for your darling little children, separated from their parents who are sent to FEMA camps. Will they feed them to the Reptilians, their favorite meal? All this in the name of population reduction? The point being missed here is that there is no democracy. There should be assemblies from the local level to the very top groupings and short term limits. Education must include government, civics, etc. Be kind, fair and helpful to your neighbor and other countries and we will neither have nor need wars to keep the fat cats in power and luxury. Abolish corporations and foundations. That should help to put the vultures out of business quickly. Close down Wall Street, the gambling den. If you want a company's shares, write to them and purchase directly with no middle man involved. There must be no gambling on commodities. Farmers must get their fair return for their labor. There is nothing wrong with everyone growing their own food or along with the community. Why is Africa starving? Because the same vicious elite create conflict in Africa to abscond with their precious resources in order to build their war machines. Corrupt leaders are installed to do the bidding of the Elite. The state of elections in the world is a simptom of the underlying disease spawned by the City of London to control the world and since the existing offworld space program is operated by the Greys and Reptilians, it all appears to me to be a plot to destroy the human race and take over the planet. It is they who are destroying the Planet with Oil, Chemtrails, Pollution, etc., not us. The Elite will get what they deserve thereafter. Are there any real men left?

[araucaria]

Posted by amor (here)
Re: Who really is Barack Obama?
I have read the above with interest but not surprise, given the things I have read on Project Camelot about $3 billion in profitable speculation on $11 trillion given by the Queen, and everything presently there from a Whistleblower about the dangerous overlords of The City of London who have planned World War III, the nano-flu bug that gives pneumonia and kills in 12 days for which there is no cure and is planned for China, the nukes planned by provoking Iran (bring in China) and wipe out the middle-east, all before the Poles of Earth Shift leaving very few people alive. The MEN/ALIENS
who have planned this put Obama in. He is a patsey as much as all of us are. The Masons, Jesuits, Black Pope, Rothchilds are on the Group of 13. The Whistleblower says their time is short and they have to accomplish WWIII before the Planet Shifts, so that they can find themselves with their power in place when we are mostly dead. This is all so evil that I can only blame it on the REPTILIANS. However, we are at fault. Even if they own and control the police, military, etc., there must be real men in America who can drag these bankers off their thrones overnight and do to them what they are planning to do to us with those 30,000 guillotines which have been ordered with our tax money. Can you imagine what is being planned for your darling little children, separated from their parents who are sent to FEMA camps. Will they feed them to the Reptilians, their favorite meal? All this in the name of population reduction? The point being missed here is that there is no democracy. There should be assemblies from the local level to the very top groupings and short term limits. Education must include government, civics, etc. Be kind, fair and helpful to your neighbor and other countries and we will neither have nor need wars to keep the fat cats in power and luxury. Abolish corporations and foundations. That should help to put the vultures out of business quickly. Close down Wall Street, the gambling den. If you want a company's shares, write to them and purchase directly with no middle man involved. There must be no gambling on commodities. Farmers must get their fair return for their labor. There is nothing wrong with everyone growing their own food or along with the community. Why is Africa starving? Because the same vicious elite create conflict in Africa to abscond with their precious resources in order to build their war machines. Corrupt leaders are installed to do the bidding of the Elite. The state of elections in the world is a simptom of the underlying disease spawned by the City of London to control the world and since the existing offworld space program is operated by the Greys and Reptilians, it all appears to me to be a plot to destroy the human race and take over the planet. It is they who are destroying the Planet with Oil, Chemtrails, Pollution, etc., not us. The Elite will get what they deserve thereafter. Are there any real men left?

Hi amor, welcome to the forum.
CurtisW's comment was to suggest that you cut this up into short paragraphs for easier reading. When one is new, one likes to take up minimum space, but please make yourself at home. Talking from experience (I only expected to make about six posts ), there is also a temptation to try and say too much all at once: your post takes you way beyond the scope of this thread. So maybe spread your ideas a bit thinner, there is plenty for everyone

[jagman]

Former secret service agent Dan Bongino was on Hannity last night. He seemed to validate
Mancows claim that Obama is an actor.

The 4:24 mark is when it gets interesting.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hkqz-UiC8L0

[onawah]

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[3optic]

Posted by chocolate (here)

I have to go listen to this person on Project Camelot's youtube channel! He seems like my kinda guy.

For the record, I agree with Raf about Alex Jones. I never liked him nor I believe in anything he says.

But that doesn't mean Bill's question is not important.

Have to say most takes on Jones are off. It's fine if you don't like him. Not believing anything he says becomes problematic because he mostly repeats things that have already been established. Information is good, presentation and style need work..