US bombers provoke China

[Operator]

Beijing -

The United States provoked China by flying unannounced with two military planes over the disputed islands in the East China Sea.

Beijing just instituted this weekend an "air defense zone" in the airspace above. Aircraft must identify themselves. If they do not follow the Chinese instructions, they will have to deal with "defensive emergency measures" by the Chinese military, according to a threatening statement. But the USA ignored all of that, as it turned out today when two B-52 bombers flew through the area without informing China thereon.

The Chinese ambassador in Australia was, in the meanwhile, summoned in connection with the zone that Beijing has set, according Foreign Minister Julie Boshop Tuesday.

In a statement, she says, the timing at which and the manner in which'' China instituted the zone, will not help to improve the situation. The diplomat was asked for an explanation and was told that Australia is concerned about the stability in the region.

Translated by Google and then made small manual corrections

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...n_China__.html

Japan 'officially' has no military ... I never realized it but I recently learned that it also means that Japan will be protected by the USA.
So the dispute over the islands also directly involves the US.

There you go, another new opportunity to start a major conflict ...

[Cidersomerset]

Japan 'officially' has no military ... I never realized it but I recently learned that it also means that Japan will be protected by the USA.
So the dispute over the islands also directly involves the US.

There you go, another new opportunity to start a major conflict ...

Good point, the sparks of conflict can come from unexpected theatres.....

[Bubu]

Haiyan is part of the plan to strategically position the cabals military. Just before exercising the provocation

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-to-Philippine

The question is whether the rest of the US military will join as I have a feeling that it is already factioned. That is why it is important to educate the US military personnel thru their friends and families.

Provocation can easily be carried out all you need is to do some nasty things.

[Flash]

I remember reading somewhere that some psychic had said that world war III would start in an unexpected place, not Iran or Israel, but an unexpected place.

Ouf, I am so tired of human stupidity - can't we collectively dream of paradise instead? (since we are the creators of our reality)

[mosquito]

Posted by Flash (here)
..Ouf, I am so tired of human stupidity - can't we collectively dream of paradise instead? ..

YES YES YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASE !!!

That one sentence of yours sums up my feelings perfectly. The levels of stupidity, selfishness, immaturity, hypocrisy being displayed by the players in this pathetic game are beyond belief.

[Pink Rabbit]

The US could at least identify themselves as an exercise and that they are not with weapons. How else can China know if they are being attacked or that it was a previously planned exercise?

[gripreaper]

Posted by Flash (here)

Ouf, I am so tired of human stupidity - can't we collectively dream of paradise instead? (since we are the creators of our reality)

Not until we are tired of the game. With many who still believe that the human soul is inherently evil (religious beliefs) and that the impulses of the human must be restrained (military) and that the different factions must "fight" for their right to be correct about their worldview, which is the only one and the correct one....then, we are not tired of the game yet.

When the cabal says, "hey ya'll, let's go to war" and we all go... "ho hum, that war crap is so 2000's" we aint gonna do that no more..boring!!!

Then the shift will come.

[golden lady]

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Posted by mariposafe (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
..Ouf, I am so tired of human stupidity - can't we collectively dream of paradise instead? ..

YES YES YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLEASE !!!

That one sentence of yours sums up my feelings perfectly. The levels of stupidity, selfishness, immaturity, hypocrisy being displayed by the players in this pathetic game are beyond belief.

The trouble is most don't they are in a game, they are like puppets having their strings pulled. So sad, so unnecessary, so many lives lost.

[Operator]

Posted by Pink Rabbit (here)
The US could at least identify themselves as an exercise and that they are not with weapons. How else can China know if they are being attacked or that it was a previously planned exercise?

You may have missed the point .... the whole (childish) game here is to demonstrably not recognize Chinese authority over
these islands. Australia did it most formally by calling in the Chinese ambassador. The US just ... oh well ... were looking for
a confrontation. No diplomacy required ...

[Operator]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...n_en_VS__.html

Chinese fighter jets track Japanese and U.S. aircraft
BEIJING -

Chinese fighter jets have followed U.S. and Japanese aircraft that crossed the airspace over the East China Sea. A spokesperson of the Chinese Air Force said Friday.

According to spokesman Shen Jinke, the Chinese observed two American pilots and ten Japanese planes .

China has set up an air defense zone in the area . Foreign aircraft must identify their route, disclose their identity and follow Chinese instructions.
If there is no answer "defensive measures" will follow, China stated last weekend.

[Pink Rabbit]

Maybe China is gathering intelligence from the planes flying in, for example the B52s came all the way from Guam, not Japan. China is so cautious it seems something more is going on than is reported. Sure Japan defined aggressive Air space and Japan has adhered to ownership of the islands before the recent past, so again why now would China now try to get concessions on these issues? And since no concessions are happening, wouldn't China have predicted this? They wouldn't want to start a war or risk incident, and so would not do Air Space definition unless important reason. Maybe it's just to defend their border because of the escalated US naval presence in the Philippines. That fits better than any other reason. The MSM is NOT mentioning the Philippines or even showing it on the maps in relation to this news.

[Mike Gorman]

Perhaps it is better to bomb your 'Banker/Creditor' back to the stone-age than adhere to a crippling re-payment of debt...it is certainly one
way for the U.S.A to wipe the slate clean?

[Calz]

Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)

Perhaps it is better to bomb your 'Banker/Creditor' back to the stone-age than adhere to a crippling re-payment of debt...it is certainly one way for the U.S.A to wipe the slate clean?

Always (... always) follow the money.

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China plan to quit dollar infuriates US: Analyst


Press TV
Sun, 01 Dec 2013 14:26 CST


The decision by the Central Bank of China to no longer accumulate foreign exchange reserves in dollar has infuriated the United States, an analyst says.

Finian Cunningham made the remark in a Sunday column for Press TV amid escalation of tensions between US and China over Beijing's enforcement of an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ).

"The escalation of military tensions between Washington and Beijing in the East China Sea is superficially over China's unilateral declaration of an air defense zone. But the real reason for Washington's ire is the recent Chinese announcement that it is planning to reduce its holdings of the US dollar," he wrote.

Cunningham said China "move to offload some of its 3.5 trillion in US dollar reserves" poses "a mortal threat to the American petrodollar and the entire American economy."

"China - the second biggest economy in the world and a top importer of oil - has or is seeking oil trading arrangements with its major suppliers, including Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Venezuela, which will involve the exchange of national currencies," he wrote, warning that the development threatens "the petrodollar and its global reserve status."

Cunningham said Beijing's November 20 notice about plan to "shift its risky foreign exchange holdings" in US dollars for other currencies "is a harbinger that the American economy's days are numbered."

"But, in the imperialist, megalomaniac mindset of Washington, the 'threat' to the US economy and indebted way of life is perceived as a tacit act of war. That is why Washington is reacting so furiously and desperately to China's newly declared air corridor. It is a pretext for the US to clench an iron fist," concluded the analyst.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/12...infuriates-us/

[sheme]

I did wonder what it was really all about. "Interesting times".

[Pink Rabbit]

I agree the USD currency devaluation is an overriding issue. But also looking at the map of China, the space for the ADIZ is likely the main thorough fare for China to enter that part of the sea with its Navy. They can't afford to have that area blocked, esp with the US in the Philippines and the US acting unpredictably. The Golden Jackass Jim Willie claims the USG is threatening nuclear attacks in order to get special offsets or consideration in the currency revaluation / Global Currency Reset. So all of this is related to the currency petrodollar wars. However the specific space of land/sea chosen is not random.

I'll admit one question I have about the Geneva Iran talks. I saw two times an allegation that Iran promised to sell its oil that was released in the lessening of sanctions last week, in USD ie Petrodollars for the next 6 months. But it may be a rumor. I read that China and India already bout and received alot of oil they weren't allowed to pay for last year and reserve accounts to pay the money owed Iran are held in the home country's currency, not USD. This also affects the value of the USD. A subject all of us US citizens must be nervous about.