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    Default Re: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)

    Do you not feel, however, that sociopathology is being cultivated and marketed to our collective behaviour, such that civilisation is becoming more competitive and aggressive and less caring and generous? This is particularly noticeable in the banking, marketing and political arenas, to name just three. And the bullying that is allowed at school and in the workplace these days is awful. It will take a lot of time - time we may not have - to market it back, even if we could start right now.

    To quote from The Stellar Man, by John Baines:
    "Personality is merely a reflection of the common soul, which shapes the subject's psyche with unsuspected power. It is no more than an emanation from the common deposit, which is incorporated and personalized in an individual who thus acquires, if it is possible to use this expression, "an animal soul of his own" in miniature and distinguished from the great collective soul.

    In this way, the individual receives from his parents a physical and genetic inheritance, and from humanity, the legacy of power and animal intelligence. Under these circumstances, it is very difficult for the individual to overcome this overwhelming compulsion and shape his own individual personality. He must resign himself to sharing the common fate of his fellow men, unless he is "lucky" enough to reach a Hermetic school. . . . .

    The collective program (of the collective soul) based on fierce and inhuman rivalry, obliges the individual to kill in order to eat. Death has many degrees, and physical destruction is the last of them, but before this, there is the slow decline that is a result of the destruction of one's inner longings. We may kill by annihilating the will of others or pitilessly exploiting them; returning evil for evil; destroying their love, sanity, happiness, and peace; or slandering, insulting, or being icily hardhearted toward others' problems.

    The future of the human race does not look promising: the accelerated development of a cold and inhuman intelligence without love or spiritual content"
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    Do you not feel, however, that sociopathology is being cultivated and marketed to our collective behaviour, such that civilisation is becoming more competitive and aggressive and less caring and generous? This is particularly noticeable in the banking, marketing and political arenas, to name just three. And the bullying that is allowed at school and in the workplace these days is awful. It will take a lot of time - time we may not have - to market it back, even if we could start right now.

    To quote from The Stellar Man, by John Baines:
    "Personality is merely a reflection of the common soul, which shapes the subject's psyche with unsuspected power. It is no more than an emanation from the common deposit, which is incorporated and personalized in an individual who thus acquires, if it is possible to use this expression, "an animal soul of his own" in miniature and distinguished from the great collective soul.

    In this way, the individual receives from his parents a physical and genetic inheritance, and from humanity, the legacy of power and animal intelligence. Under these circumstances, it is very difficult for the individual to overcome this overwhelming compulsion and shape his own individual personality. He must resign himself to sharing the common fate of his fellow men, unless he is "lucky" enough to reach a Hermetic school. . . . .

    The collective program (of the collective soul) based on fierce and inhuman rivalry, obliges the individual to kill in order to eat. Death has many degrees, and physical destruction is the last of them, but before this, there is the slow decline that is a result of the destruction of one's inner longings. We may kill by annihilating the will of others or pitilessly exploiting them; returning evil for evil; destroying their love, sanity, happiness, and peace; or slandering, insulting, or being icily hardhearted toward others' problems.

    The future of the human race does not look promising: the accelerated development of a cold and inhuman intelligence without love or spiritual content"
    And that is what the money and the banks,and the controlled religions are about. Debt and death- you owe, it's off to death and debt you go. Babylonian debt money and blood sacrifice. Control, slavery, and death, trying to tune this place to their desires.

    Which is entirely false.

    It's all abundance and no debt, just learning and opening, which Hermeticism was and is teaching.

    Which is why they killed Giordano Bruno. He was illustrating that, clearly.

    Which is why the attack on ANYTHING that teaches abundance, without debt.

    If humanity turns that one single psychological corner, one of abundance, their game is over.

    For them to to be successful...All attempts at abundance must be ended, vibration lowered, minds collapsed and made to look inward, to attack each other instead of attacking no one -and being open and free.

    Whoever is in balance, they go after them and raze the very ground that those open and free people live on.
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    Default Re: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)

    I just started reading Jim Willie's monthly Hat Trick Letter.

    It is becoming increasingly apparent that we need to pay attention to who is one what side in this battle of the bastards in power.

    I am suspecting that, while it is no doubt complex and no doubt key players are quite unknown to little old me, it can still be broken down into a couple of camps:
    • Team A: The banking cartel, Banksters (JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Bank of America, RBS, ...), Zionists ruling Israel, Bushes, ex-(or not so ex)-Nazi's, the Institute of Religious Works (IOR, aka the Vatican Bank) ...
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    • Team B: The Chinese, Russians, BRICSA nations, International Monetary Fund (IMF), Bank of International Settlements (BIS), Ernst & Young (auditor of the IOR, Lloyds of London and the BIS), the City of London and the Rothschilds, the new Pope Francis (who asked Ernst Young to audit the IOR), Jesuits (backers of Francis), and BaFin (the German financial regulators) ...
    My money is on Team B.

    I don't have any clear speculation yet on how the US agencies such as the various military branches, the CIA, FBI and NSA, Homeland Security, ... fit into this.

    Well, with one exception ... I'd speculate that the CIA is on Team A, with for example its many connections to the Bush's, the banking cartel and the drug business. This would suggest that the NSA is on the "other side", and that Joseph P. Farrell's speculation that the NSA's vast surveillance capabilities have a financial motivation might be read as saying that the NSA is spying on the banking cartel.

    That speculation suggests that Edward Snowden is a tool of the banking cartel, due to his dominant focus on exposing the NSA and his "formative" years with the CIA, before going to work for Dell as a contractor for the NSA. Putin may be safeguarding Snowden not due to a close alignment of interests, but on the principle of "keep your friends close, and the tools of your enemy closer." Putin is a Russian, not a Team B Rothschild, but right now Team B, as the enemy of his enemy, is more his ally.
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    Default Re: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)

    OOOPS, These places are every where... (Some of the info SNOWDEN has/FYI). What are ALL of these DUMB's REALLY for? Government Agencies and Military Only? No, There are way tooooo many of them.

    A large percentage of them are all over the world, in EVERY STATE and larger than most cities and even though they are under mountains and miles underground they are connected by tunnels that are Highways and "HIGH Speed Shuttle Systems".

    Whether it be a part of the Elites "Dark Spiritual Beliefs", "Known cycles of Earth changes", or "Safe Places to hide when their CON has gone as far as it can"... They ARE ready and prepared for something. They are in preparation mode and getting ready for lock down mode.


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    Mapping the Blind Spots: Developer Unearths Secret U.S. Military Bases



    If you look closely enough on Google or Bing Maps, some places are blanked out, hidden from public view. Many of those places disguise secret or sensitive American military facilities.

    The United States military has a foothold in every corner of the world, with military bases on every continent. It's not even clear how many there are out there. The Pentagon says there are around 5,000 in total, and 598 in foreign countries, but those numbers are disputed by the media.

    SEE ALSO: 7 Outdated Technologies the U.S. Military Still Uses

    But how do these facilities look from above? To answer that question, you first need to locate the bases. Which, as it turns out, is relatively easy.

    That's what Josh Begley, a data artist, found out when he embarked on a project to map all known U.S. military bases around the world, collect satellite pictures of them using Google Maps and Bing Maps, and display them all online.

    The project, which he warns is ongoing, was inspired by Trevor Paglen's book "Blank Spots on the Map" which goes inside the world of secret military bases that are sometimes censored on maps.

    "I wanted to apply this to a digital landscape," Begley told Mashable. "What are the actual blind spots of Google Maps or Bing Maps? Which installations are secret and which can be viewed on the open Internet?"

    Begley has found the coordinates for 650 bases, and published pictures for 644 of them — although a few are blacked out, not displayed, or blurred.

    He started working on the project at the beginning of November, simply armed with the Department of Defense 2013 Base Structure Report, an inventory of all the real estate owned by the Pentagon around the world, a few media reports that uncovered secret bases, and a computer script he had used last year to make another mapping project that displayed aerial pictures of U.S. prisons.

    He modified that script, which he made along with his friend and fellow digital artist Jer Thorp, to grab a series of coordinates from a database file, query the Google and Bing maps' APIs, and automatically capture a satellite picture of that spot. Sounds easy enough, but some publicly available coordinates aren't particularly precise, so Begley had to manually take screenshots for those (and he still has to finish correcting some mistakes).

    This manual work was also necessary in cases where the bases are secret, or at least not officially acknowledged by the U.S. government. The CIA site that independent journalist Jeremy Scahill uncovered in Mogadishu, Somalia, or the secret drone base unearthed by Wired's Noah Shachtman earlier this year are examples.

    Begley had already included a picture of a highly classified facility in Qatar before U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel officially revealed its location on Tuesday — even though it had been something of an open secret.

    Which leads us to the question: Is any of this actually a good idea? Is any of this actually a good idea?

    Google Earth satellite pictures were reportedly used to pinpoint a target by terrorists who killed 164 people in a tragic attack in Mumbai, India, which prompted some to call for a ban on publishing these types of pictures.

    "Google and Microsoft and every other commercial provider should be barred from photographing and displaying military bases," Computerworld's Patrick Thibodeau wrote at the time. "We are building intelligence capability for our enemies."

    But experts disagree, and don't see Begley's site as something to worry about.

    " The capability to acquire and publish such imagery is simply a fact of life that military forces and others have to adapt to The capability to acquire and publish such imagery is simply a fact of life that military forces and others have to adapt to," said Steven Aftergood, an expert in secrecy and researcher for the Federation of American Scientists.

    This capability can theoretically be used to plot terror attacks, he explained, but it can also provide great geographical insight.

    "In an open society, we take the good with the bad," he told Mashable.

    "I’m sure it’s not welcomed by the DoD," said Joe Francica, the editor in chief and vice publisher of Directions Media, a publication that covers geospatial technology. "But if you are in intelligence at Al-Qaeda, somebody probably has done this already."

    A Department of Defense spokesperson didn't respond to Mashable's requests for comment.

    Begley, on his part, said he would understand if someone criticized the project, but he doesn't see anything wrong with it.

    "I'm mostly just posing the question," he said. "[The website] really is just a highlight of things that are already available on the Internet."

    Moreover, it's not unprecedented. In 2000, pictures of the once secret Area 51, taken by a Russian satellite, were leaked on the Internet.

    Nobody owns the skies above secret bases, so there's no law that prevents privately-owned or public satellites from snapping pictures from space. But when it comes to publishing them, secrecy can still prevail.

    Google Maps, for example, doesn't show an image for the secret drone base exposed by Wired. But Bing does.


    suadi-arabia-drone-base

    And in other cases the censorship — for lack of a better word — can be even more imaginative, as it is with images of the Volkel Air Base, a military base in the Netherlands.


    volkel-air-base

    These are cases in which Google and Microsoft were asked not to publish a clear image of the sites. The two companies declined to answer specific questions about the sites, and about Begley's project. But they explained that sometimes, it's not up to them to make these kind of calls.

    "Google Earth is built from a broad range of imagery providers, including public, government, commercial and private sector sources — some of which may blur images before they supply it to us," said a Google spokesperson.

    Microsoft, on its part, explained that sometimes it is required to delete or blur images. "We work with our imagery collection vendors to ensure that they comply with applicable laws," a company spokesperson said.

    Take a look at the most interesting aerial views, as chosen by Begley himself, in the gallery below.


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    And that is what the money and the banks,and the controlled religions are about. Debt and death- you owe, it's off to death and debt you go. Babylonian debt money and blood sacrifice. Control, slavery, and death, trying to tune this place to their desires.

    Which is entirely false.

    It's all abundance and no debt, just learning and opening, which Hermeticism was and is teaching.

    Which is why they killed Giordano Bruno. He was illustrating that, clearly.

    Which is why the attack on ANYTHING that teaches abundance, without debt.

    If humanity turns that one single psychological corner, one of abundance, their game is over.

    For them to to be successful...All attempts at abundance must be ended, vibration lowered, minds collapsed and made to look inward, to attack each other instead of attacking no one -and being open and free.

    Whoever is in balance, they go after them and raze the very ground that those open and free people live on.
    Carmody, I don't speak with any great specific knowledge, but, I think there is a better than slight chance that 'they' are not entirely against the technology of 'abundance'.

    What I do think is certain though, is that they will use lethal force to suppress it until they have reached a point with their time/event plan where they have a complete global control over everything and anything that may spring from it's adoption.

    Yes, I believe they are genuinely scared of what it could do to the human race, as things are right now. To be honest, I am too. Something different has to be happening with the public consciousness before it's a safe move to make. On one hand, there's those who see it as a "shifted" consciousness type of thing. On the other hand, there's those who see it as a total control type of thing. Unless there's a miracle, the guys into total control seem to be the ones whole have it their way.
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    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Expect Devastating Global Economic Changes In 2014
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    In his latest subscription newsletter, Jim Willie takes considerable material from the original source of this BeforeItsNews.com article:
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    might be read as saying that the NSA is spying on the banking cartel
    So if the NSA claims that their spying is intended to prevent another 9/11 ... they might actually be speaking truthfully .
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    Very Nice! I might go one step further and say "THEY may actually be speaking "accurately" about preventing "Another 9/11".

    Whether truth has anything to do with it I dunno...

    I think "Looking INSIDE to prevent Another 9/11" type situation would be an accurate statement. Sadly if "Another 9/11" is pulled off it will be to further remove human rights, AND by "THOSE" who are doing the "WATCHING"! IMHO.


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    might be read as saying that the NSA is spying on the banking cartel
    So if the NSA claims that their spying is intended to prevent another 9/11 ... they might actually be speaking truthfully .

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    It's time for Lindsey Williams to retire from public life...he has contributed a great deal to what is available to the public since he published his Energy Non Crisis book, but it's obviously going downhill to a point where Lindsey is creating more problems than solutions. I am grateful for the many contributions he has made over the years.
    There is unfortunately some precedence for this particular sort of confusion/misinformation by Lindsey Williams. In March of 2012 (see here), Lindsey said that "The Us dollar is dead by the end of 2012". Lindsey has never really owned up to the failure of this prediction, claiming something along the lines of (my paraphrase) that the US Dollar did die in December 2012 ... we just haven't noticed yet.
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    In the latest Lindsey Williams DVD, which apparently addsub has posted as a Youtube video at the beginning of his Post 190, above, Lindsey Williams says he was told that this Global Currency Reset "may possibly take place within the next three months" (listen starting at 1:23 within that Youtube video). That qualifier "may possibly" is a rather vital omission from Pastor Williams other statements regarding this forecast.

    I imagine that it would have been pretty easy to "get to" Pastor Williams, by putting him in contact with another "elite friend" or two, who had the ability to twist words, tell credible lies, and feed Pastor Williams "healthy ego."
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Team A: The banking cartel, Rockefellers?, Banksters (JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Bank of America, RBS, ...), Zionists ruling Israel, Bushes, ex-(or not so ex)-Nazi's, the Institute of Religious Works (IOR, aka the Vatican Bank) ...

    versus

    Team B: The Chinese, Russians, BRICSA nations, International Monetary Fund (IMF), Bank of International Settlements (BIS), Ernst & Young (auditor of the IOR, Lloyds of London and the BIS), the City of London and the Rothschilds, the new Pope Francis (who asked Ernst Young to audit the IOR), Jesuits (backers of Francis), and BaFin (the German financial regulators) ...
    I have no insider information and am not close to anyone who stands at the gates of power and can see beyond the horizon, but this seems fairly accurate to me. What I don't understand, is how the Rockefeller's, who are (or were) the agents of the Rothschild regime during the last century, turned and became the opposition.

    A little history. Back in the late 1800's when oil was just emerging as the primary fuel for industrialization, it was Amschel who financed Standard Oil and basically "allowed" his agents in the US to proliferate and expand. What I'm afraid they miscalculated, was how oil would become the number one commodity this century, surpassing all other streams of revenue and capital accumulaiton and appreciation. Did Rockefellers "et al" (Bush's, Harriman's, Warburgs, JP Morgan, etc) get as big as the Rothchilds in this last century and become a formidable foe, thus they need to be reconciled back to agent status?

    Also, why would the Vatican bank side with team A and the Jesuits be on team B? That doesn't seem right. The Vatican is the oldest and most deeply engrained, and all others are agents and subsidiary to them.

    What is typical at the top, is no one breaks rank. If it appears that someone does break rank, then are we not being misled and there is something else going on? These are the types of questions I need to ask critically, as I'm not convinced there are two competing factions that high up the food chain. If so, then I'd like to know what the strategies are for both, and whether I want to root for either team. After all, it could just be the grandkids having a bit too much fun.
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    It does make sense to me that the next step will be for the IMF to announce a world-wide agreement by all nations to submit to IMF control of the foreign exchange rates of their various national and regional currencies, supposedly in line with the resources of each nations (their assets and debts.)
    This no longer makes sense to me .

    I retract my support for Lindsey William's forecast of a Global Currency Reset (GCR) in the next three months.

    The rebuttal of addsub above is persuasive. I find myself guilty of some of the same fuzzy thinking that I sometimes accuse others of:
    • Letting over-specificity ("204" countries, in "three months" agreed to a "five per-cent" limit on variations from "IMF" established foreign currency exchange (forex) rates ...) be overly persuasive.
    • Wishful thinking (not that I really want a global monetary new world order to prevail, but rather that I preferred that it occur with minimal bloodshed and human suffering.)
    One cannot get 204 nations to agree on the time of day, the length of a meter, or which side of the road to drive on .

    One cannot even get them to agree that there are 204 nations ... only approximately 190 to 195 nations are generally agreed to.
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    Team A: The banking cartel, Rockefellers?, Banksters (JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Bank of America, RBS, ...), Zionists ruling Israel, Bushes, ex-(or not so ex)-Nazi's, the Institute of Religious Works (IOR, aka the Vatican Bank) ...

    versus

    Team B: The Chinese, Russians, BRICSA nations, International Monetary Fund (IMF), Bank of International Settlements (BIS), Ernst & Young (auditor of the IOR, Lloyds of London and the BIS), the City of London and the Rothschilds, the new Pope Francis (who asked Ernst Young to audit the IOR), Jesuits (backers of Francis), and BaFin (the German financial regulators) ...
    I have no insider information and am not close to anyone who stands at the gates of power and can see beyond the horizon, but this seems fairly accurate to me. What I don't understand, is how the Rockefeller's, who are (or were) the agents of the Rothschild regime during the last century, turned and became the opposition.

    A little history. Back in the late 1800's when oil was just emerging as the primary fuel for industrialization, it was Amschel who financed Standard Oil and basically "allowed" his agents in the US to proliferate and expand. What I'm afraid they miscalculated, was how oil would become the number one commodity this century, surpassing all other streams of revenue and capital accumulaiton and appreciation. Did Rockefellers "et al" (Bush's, Harriman's, Warburgs, JP Morgan, etc) get as big as the Rothchilds in this last century and become a formidable foe, thus they need to be reconciled back to agent status?

    Also, why would the Vatican bank side with team A and the Jesuits be on team B? That doesn't seem right. The Vatican is the oldest and most deeply engrained, and all others are agents and subsidiary to them.

    What is typical at the top, is no one breaks rank. If it appears that someone does break rank, then are we not being misled and there is something else going on? These are the types of questions I need to ask critically, as I'm not convinced there are two competing factions that high up the food chain. If so, then I'd like to know what the strategies are for both, and whether I want to root for either team. After all, it could just be the grandkids having a bit too much fun.
    JP Morgan, part of that US group, part of the US oil/banking/power oligarchy, is among those who suppressed and killed FE inventors and made sure their efforts remained at the top.

    Whether or not they did this unilaterally on their own, or if others elsewhere contributed and did the same, is difficult to discern.
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    The money masters don't need any agreement from any countries, whether there are 204 or 195. They do not see countries when they look at the landscape, and they damn sure well can give the global exchange system a 30% haircut overnight if they wish to do so.

    What I see happening, is that all countries are being marginalized while the UN is being made the hero, and this "meme" is being battered into our consciousness daily.
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    There are more than just an A and a B side "Playing in this Game"... there are a few others and they are more silent but if they do speak they have ALL of the SECRETS!

    To put it mildly a very happy face is being put on some of the terms being used for this "New Coalition".

    The word "AGREE" is a euphemism used by "Some" of the BRICS Groups, Western White Hats and a possible catalyst (Think of timing, Snowden fleeing the country to the "C" and "R" of BRICS with the leverage on those leaders and all others in the world, per a source... Great motivation for EVERY one of the leaders to find a reason to AGREE IMHO) to approach each state/leader group and remind them for "Under over whelming evidence of your participation in and willing contribution of crimes against humanity... WE feel that if you AGREE to these terms when the SHIFT HAPPENS it can be done so in a way that can prevent as much embarrassment, imprisonment of state elite's and the social uprisings in their states calling from your heads"... Ahh, self preservation is a STRONG instinct!

    You see, I am being told there is the highest stakes black male scheme in current world history going on. There is "Information" out there that was NEVER SUPPOSED to see the light of day. Much of the info each side had and was equal to the cold war nuclear missiles aimed at each other... MUTUAL DESTRUCTION! Now with 3rd/4th Parties having these Nuclear Documents in their hands panic has ran rampant the last few years through out not only our Government/Military but also MANY OTHERS! The UK has been shredding documents ("Historical" in nature per MI5) like there is no tomorrow as have most of the G8 and G20 Countries. I have heard of this "Reset" but it has not been portrayed in the terms that this Pastor Lindsay fellow has been reporting.

    The info was a LOT MORE SHOCKING and SCARY (Hard as that is to believe)! The DHS/FEMA Preparations have been going on for a few years for 1. Financial Collapse 2. Social/Civil Unrest (Natural Disasters/Terrorist Threats are normal covers for all training activity Federal & Military).

    Smart meters aside, THEY do expect some Americans (The % they are spying on/keeping a close eye on anyway) to riot or rise up in anger. THEY DO expect a varying degree/charted of problems from certain groups and individuals. The "Global Bank Holiday" people will wake up to will be quite a shock... The "Public Education of the Global Financial Rollover" will be even more shocking. In one morning people will learn a whole new world has been created without their input... the concept of "Ownership", "Assets" and "Wealth" will rattle older people as they try to figure out what will happen to their nest egg's they worked to accumulate. What about their properties? What about... etc.

    Now, some of the info will be a relief to a percentage of people. Some of the debt forgiveness of both personal and city, state and national debt will excite them. It was hard for Countries/Elite to let go of some of these "DEBTS"... Only black male of the highest order could ever pry it from their bony fingers.

    Many that are INSIDE worry, this is being forced... It is NOT voluntary by most. Although those being "Fleeced" are Criminals of the highest order (And us civilians by proxy) and THEY deserve MUCH WORSE (War crimes, some say over ONE BILLION Deaths on their hands etc...) the question is...
    ARE WE TRADING IN ONE SLAVE MASTER FOR ANOTHER? Will it be a time to rejoice once the dust settles and we are re-educated... or will it be the same or WORSE?

    That is the stickler about not having any say as a SHEEPLE! IMHO...


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    It does make sense to me that the next step will be for the IMF to announce a world-wide agreement by all nations to submit to IMF control of the foreign exchange rates of their various national and regional currencies, supposedly in line with the resources of each nations (their assets and debts.)
    This no longer makes sense to me .

    I retract my support for Lindsey William's forecast of a Global Currency Reset (GCR) in the next three months.

    The rebuttal of addsub above is persuasive. I find myself guilty of some of the same fuzzy thinking that I sometimes accuse others of:
    • Letting over-specificity ("204" countries, in "three months" agreed to a "five per-cent" limit on variations from "IMF" established foreign currency exchange (forex) rates ...) be overly persuasive.
    • Wishful thinking (not that I really want a global monetary new world order to prevail, but rather that I preferred that it occur with minimal bloodshed and human suffering.)
    One cannot get 204 nations to agree on the time of day, the length of a meter, or which side of the road to drive on .
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    One cannot even get them to agree that there are 204 nations ... only approximately 190 to 195 nations are generally agreed to.
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    Here is some more incentives to run and hide:

    Swiss banks urge U.S. tax dodgers to come clean to beat deadline
    By RACHAEL BADE | 12/16/13 7:00 PM EST, Updated: 12/16/13 9:56 PM EST


    The U.S. started its crackdown when it raked in $780 in a settlement with UBS. | AP Photo

    Swiss banks are quietly warning wealthy U.S. clients with secret accounts to come clean with the tax man in the next two weeks — or risk jail time, according to several letters obtained by POLITICO.

    The letters come ahead of a New Year’s Eve deadline the U.S. government set for about 300 Swiss banks to take deals protecting them from prosecution. In exchange for confessing and shelling out mountains of Americans’ account information, they’ll get immunity. It is a new twist to the traditional bank-client relationship.

    “The banks have every incentive right now to shove their American clients into compliance in order to reduce the penalties,” said tax attorney Jeff Neiman, who prosecuted Swiss banking giant UBS for the U.S. government.

    The effort is part of a U.S. crackdown on American tax evaders and the banks that help them, which ramped up when Swiss banking giant UBS admitted as much with a $780 million settlement in 2009. The Justice Department is currently probing 14 major Swiss financial institutions — including Credit Suisse, Julius Baer and the Swiss arm of HSBC — for shielding U.S. tax cheats.

    The government gave a larger set of Swiss banks until Dec. 31 to sign up for non-prosecution deals, after paying a penalty of up to 50 percent of the secret assets.

    POLITICO has seen three letters from Swiss banks to U.S. clients, two that were redacted, urging them to fess up.

    “Your account information may be subject to a treaty request from the United States to the Swiss Federal Tax Administration, which may result in your account information being turned over to the DOJ or IRS,” warned one by Cornèr Bank, sent to an American client and obtained by POLITICO. “A disclosure … can be used by US authorities for law enforcement actions, including … criminal proceedings.”

    Switzerland’s oldest private bank, Wegelin & Co., went belly up because of the Justice investigation.

    Lawyers said they had seen as many as a dozen letters from a recent batch, including correspondence from Rahn & Bodmer Co. and Royal Bank of Canada (Suisse). Neither bank responded to requests for comment.

    The pressure is leading Swiss banks not yet under investigation to consider the non-prosecution deals.

    And many of their clients are heeding the banks’ warnings to turn themselves in, according to lawyers for these wealthy individuals.

    “There is a new wave right now because of this program aimed at Swiss banks coming in and identifying clients and identifying accounts,” said Caplin & Drysdale’s Scott Michel, who is getting three to four such inquiries each day — about the same number he usually received every couple of weeks for the past year.

    Another strand of the tax crackdown story is taking place in Florida, where a UBS executive sought by prosecutors for nearly five years — recently caught in Italy — came before a U.S. judge on Monday.

    The former No. 3 at UBS, Raoul Weil, is charged with helping thousands of Americans dodge taxes during his time at the bank.

    Weil, who proclaims his innocence, was extradited to the U.S. days ago. The judge freed him on about $10 million in bail, with a hearing set for Jan. 7.

    Like the bank program, the IRS for years has urged Americans with offshore accounts to come clean on their own, pay back-taxes and penalties and avoid criminal proceedings.

    A simple rule applies: Call them before they call you.

    Once the IRS has your information, the dodgers are barred from the forgiveness program and could face jail time.

    The smaller banks are important because after the UBS crackdown, many of the bigger banks would not take U.S. client money. So tax cheats simply moved their money to the little guys, thinking their stashes were safe.

    “Depositors in Switzerland thought that since the smaller banks don’t have branches and assets in the United States, they would be immune from IRS pressure and regulation,” said Bryan Skarlatos of Kostelanetz & Fink.

    They thought wrong.

    Although the Justice Department has promised not to prosecute more Swiss banks before Dec. 31, all bets are off in the new year after the non-prosecution deadline, they warn.

    Tax cheat confessions are a win for Swiss banks, too. The Justice program will allow them to deduct from their penalties — $1 for $1 — any money paid back from American clients who turn themselves in.

    “Initially, [thousands] came forward and spilled their guts about their banks and banking adviser,” Neiman said, referring to the 33,000 who came clean in the first years of the IRS amnesty program. “Armed with that information, the Justice Department has gone to the Swiss banks and said, ‘Gotcha!’ And the banks, trying to save themselves, are pushing their remaining clients into the light.”

    The bank disclosure program won’t force banks to hand over client names right away. At first, it merely requires them to release general account information, including how much money is being shielded from taxation.

    But because of a Swiss-U.S. treaty, the U.S. will eventually be able to request the names of account holders and see every account transaction since mid-2008, including where the money is going.

    Voluntary disclosures by Americans with Swiss accounts peaked in 2009 just after the UBS prosecution, when the IRS opened the first temporary amnesty program. Americans with foreign accounts crammed law offices, making frantic phone calls to join up to the final hour before the deadline, lawyers said.

    Disclosures peaked again around the deadline of a 2011 program — though this batch of confessors came from around the world, well beyond Switzerland.

    In early 2012, the IRS announced it would keep the amnesty program open indefinitely. As a result, lawyers said the sense of urgency diminished, as did the number of confessors.

    Until now.

    “The letters have really driven people in,” said Skarlatos. “It probably went from a slow one-each-week to about one a day starting in October, and it’s been picking up with intensity.”

    Max Riederer von Paar, a partner at Rubin, Winston, Diercks, Harris & Cooke who works in the U.S. and Switzerland, said he’s seen more than a 25 percent uptick in inquiries over the past few months.

    Meanwhile, the clock is ticking. Although the program is open for now, the IRS can change the terms at any time.

    “It’s sort of like a horse race: If you’re at a bank that you think will turn over your name, you need to come forward before your name gets to the IRS first,” said Deborah Jacobs, a New York-based tax lawyer.
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    Default Re: Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Team A: The banking cartel, Rockefellers?, Banksters (JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Barclays, Bank of America, RBS, ...), Zionists ruling Israel, Bushes, ex-(or not so ex)-Nazi's, the Institute of Religious Works (IOR, aka the Vatican Bank) ...

    versus

    Team B: The Chinese, Russians, BRICSA nations, International Monetary Fund (IMF), Bank of International Settlements (BIS), Ernst & Young (auditor of the IOR, Lloyds of London and the BIS), the City of London and the Rothschilds, the new Pope Francis (who asked Ernst Young to audit the IOR), Jesuits (backers of Francis), and BaFin (the German financial regulators) ...
    I have no insider information and am not close to anyone who stands at the gates of power and can see beyond the horizon, but this seems fairly accurate to me. What I don't understand, is how the Rockefeller's, who are (or were) the agents of the Rothschild regime during the last century, turned and became the opposition.

    A little history. Back in the late 1800's when oil was just emerging as the primary fuel for industrialization, it was Amschel who financed Standard Oil and basically "allowed" his agents in the US to proliferate and expand. What I'm afraid they miscalculated, was how oil would become the number one commodity this century, surpassing all other streams of revenue and capital accumulaiton and appreciation. Did Rockefellers "et al" (Bush's, Harriman's, Warburgs, JP Morgan, etc) get as big as the Rothchilds in this last century and become a formidable foe, thus they need to be reconciled back to agent status?

    Also, why would the Vatican bank side with team A and the Jesuits be on team B? That doesn't seem right. The Vatican is the oldest and most deeply engrained, and all others are agents and subsidiary to them.

    What is typical at the top, is no one breaks rank. If it appears that someone does break rank, then are we not being misled and there is something else going on? These are the types of questions I need to ask critically, as I'm not convinced there are two competing factions that high up the food chain. If so, then I'd like to know what the strategies are for both, and whether I want to root for either team. After all, it could just be the grandkids having a bit too much fun.
    I'm right on board with grip on this one.

    Any member who is familiar with my comments will know exactly where I'm going with this - hyperdimensional mental manipulation
    • No one wants to admit to the possibility of having their thoughts controlled.
    • No one wants their ideologies shattered.
    • No one wants to stipulate to the understanding that the social structure has been telepathically manipulated since the Dawn of Man.

    But.... that's exactly what has been happening.

    One must ask the question, why would the core of the elite power structure suddenly appear to be stratified into two separate, and opposing divisions? And, especially, why would more than one of the key elements suddenly split into two opposing forces? ....and, at just the time the Masses are waking-up to how the system really works.

    I would suggest, there is a 'confusion card' being played to the public view, and Paul has been perceptive enough to stumble-on the agenda in his documentation....

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