Why Are the Bankers and Ex-Intel Types Running For Their Lives? (Confirmed for MONTHS by my vanishing sources)

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A Diabolical Agenda is Being Pushed Forward by the Democrats & the GOP
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Posted By John Risselada on Dec 8, 2013 | 205 Comments



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Many Americans find themselves wondering why the Republican Party is laying down like a wounded dog in the face of Obama’s increasing power grabs. Scandal after scandal and the best the GOP has done so far is finding Eric holder in contempt of congress. A window of opportunity is rapidly closing for the republicans as the continued discontent of Obamacare is all but washed away from the mainstream media amid claims of a new and improved website, at the cost of billions to the tax payer no less. True conservative Americans understand however, that the GOP is a generic brand that lost its flavor long ago. Infiltrated by the same leftists that have turned the democrat party into a bunch of rabid socialists, the republicans are rapidly losing the support of their constituency and it is likely that a push for a third party will soon begin. The problem is, far too many Americans don’t know or simply have forgotten how rotten the GOP really is.
Would you like to be reminded why the republicans won’t lift a finger to challenge the rampant voter fraud in the 2012 elections? They are barred from doing so according to a law suit filed against them in 1981 by the democrat party. You see, while you and are continually referred to as being racist for questioning Obama; and the democrats continually play the race card in order to eliminate voter ID laws, it seems this is something that the Republican Party has actually brought to bear upon us in the New Jersey gubernatorial elections of 1981. The Republican Party literally did attempt to disenfranchise minority voters in an attempt to manipulate the vote. Obama and his radical leftists are using this to their fullest advantage as one of the terms of the lawsuit was in fact, an agreement between the RNC and the DNC that the republicans would not pursue voter fraud until this decision has been reversed by a federal appeals court. Well, guess who appointed the judge the republicans had to appeal to in the 2012 elections for reversal? You got it, President Obama. Folks, the democrats have been planning these victory’s for 30 years all because these republicans had to be the racist, vote denying scum bags the democrats always accuse them of being. You can read the full story of this account here.
This story was real upsetting to me because of the way the radical leftist professors I had to endure kept referring to the republicans as being racist. I came running to their defense telling stories of how the republican party was founded to free the slaves and how it was a republican president that achieved desegregation. It appears, for all practical purposes in this incident anyways, that the republicans have chosen to dishonor their heritage. It is true that the democrats have worked wonders all throughout the second half of the twentieth century ensuring the majority of black voters would vote democrat. To quote Lyndon B. Johnson upon his signing the republican introduced civil rights legislation-”I’ll have those ni***rs voting democrat for the next two hundred years.” Perhaps if the republicans could just find a way to disseminate that information more minority voters would want to vote republican.
If that story wasn’t bad enough, it gets worse. Now, I can’t verify the accuracy of this information any better than the next guy. There are plenty of sites that are claiming it is true and there are others that are claiming it is disinformation. I have to say however, the validity of the story above gives the next one a bit more credibility when you sit and wonder why the republicans are mere putty in the hands of a master Alinskyite.
Why won’t the GOP make a serious effort to combat the negative effects of Obamacare? Many times even I assumed it was because they were afraid of being called a racist, or they were petrified of being portrayed as unwilling to compromise or negotiate. That isn’t it; they are likely being held ransom by a radical who would tell their voters that it was their idea in the first place. Again, there are many sites that are claiming this is true and many others claiming that it isn’t. What I can offer you for evidence however is the document put forth by the conservatives cherished organization, The Heritage Foundation, in which they are calling for an individual mandate where Americans are required to obtain adequate insurance. This document is from 1989 and can be seen here. (Editor’s Note: Heritage does attempt a rebuttal of the charges made in the article linked to. I’ll let the reader decide if it is valid or not.)
I was equally displeased to discover this because I receive daily news letters from The Heritage Foundation.
This information makes you wonder what kind of sweet deals are being made in Washington D.C. between our so called republican party and the dastardly democrats. Whatever they happen to be, they have been orchestrated by the Devil. These people not only have sold their own souls for power and prestige, they have offered us up for a feast so they can maintain it.
The reality of the situation is a stone cold truth that failing to realize will only guarantee our destruction. These two parties are working in cahoots with one another folks. Many Americans are slowly awakening to this reality, though I don’t know if it could be more apparent than watching King Obama carry forth the same tyrannical policies such as The Patriot Act, over from the Bush administration.
We are being held prisoners in the confines of our own minds people. The media, in all of its aspects, propagate the illusions of a concrete difference between liberals and conservatives, left and right, democrat and republican by defining issues for us and telling us what we have to accept in order to fall into one of these categories. For instance, you can’t be a liberal if you don’t support abortion. Thankfully, as an educated conservative I can say this tactic works much better on liberals because they are generally much more unsure of themselves than conservatives are, we tend to be more absolute. That’s beside the point, which is, we are being fooled into believing we can’t get along. The issues are decided and defined for us by the media programming that tells us what to think.
I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the republicans actually agreed to play the bad guys in an effort to give credibility to Obama. They will let Obama continue to call them racist if he lets them have a couple more senate seats. They will pretend not to notice that the Obamacare website is still a disaster as long as Obama doesn’t tell anyone that they secretly admire it. They continue to play the opposition as long as they are invited to the big after work dinner parties.
I also wouldn’t be surprised to see some mediocre republican beat out Hillary Clinton just to fan the flames of discontent a bit. While everyone would fall back to sleep under the illusion that the republican will make it all better, he, or she, will carry the same diabolical agenda forward an inch, instead of a mile at a time. After all, that’s the real difference between today’s republicans and democrats.

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If Someone Wanted To Destroy America On Purpose…
By Michael Snyder, on December 8th, 2013



Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod And Other Staff Members Laugh It Up

“Let’s say somebody were [in the White House] and they wanted to destroy this nation. I would create division among the people, encourage a culture of ridicule for basic morality and the principles that made and sustained the country, undermine the financial stability of the nation, and weaken and destroy the military. It appears coincidentally that those are the very things that are happening right now.”

-Dr. Ben Carson on March 16th, 2013

That quote by Dr. Ben Carson does a great job of capturing what is taking place in the United States right now. If you wanted to destroy the most powerful nation on the planet, the best way to do so would be to destroy it from the inside out. Right now, America is more divided than it has been at any point in any of our lifetimes. Anger and frustration are growing to unprecedented levels, and one recent survey discovered that the level of trust that Americans have in one another is at an all-time low. Our families are falling apart and moral decay is systematically rotting the foundations of our society. Meanwhile, the U.S. national debt is on pace to more than double during the eight years of the Obama administration and the rest of the world is losing more respect for us with each passing day.

Sadly, at this critical juncture in U.S. history the American people have twice voted to elect a totally unqualified con man to be the President of the United States. To say that this scandal-ridden administration has been “corrupt” would be a massive understatement. The following is a political joke that one of my readers recently emailed me, and I think that it does a great job of illustrating the current state of our government…

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Bob: “Did you hear about the Obama administration scandal?”

Jim: “You mean the Mexican gun running?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean SEAL Team 6?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean the State Dept. lying about Benghazi?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean voter fraud?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean the use of drones in our own country without the benefit of the law?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million and right after it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean the president arming the Muslim Brotherhood?” Bob: “No the other one.”
Jim: “The IRS targeting conservatives?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The DOJ spying on the press?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “Sebelius shaking down health insurance executives?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “Giving SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The president’s ordering the release of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants from jails and prisons, and falsely blaming the sequester?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The president’s threat to impose gun control by Executive Order in order to bypass Congress?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The president’s repeated violation of the law requiring him to submit a budget no later than the first Monday in February?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The 2012 vote where 115% of all registered voters in some counties voted 100% for Obama?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The president’s unconstitutional recess appointments in an attempt to circumvent the Senate’s advise-and-consent role?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “Clinton, the IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean that 65 million low-information voters who don’t pay taxes and get free stuff from taxpayers stuck us again with the most pandering, corrupt administration in American history?” Bob: “No, the other one.”
Jim: “You mean the one where he lied and told us we could get better and cheaper healthcare or keep what we had if it was better for us?”

Bob: “THAT’S THE ONE!”

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Not only has the Obama administration been extremely corrupt, they have also failed to deliver on almost all of the promises that they have made to us. In fact, just about every major promise that Barack Obama has uttered has turned out to be a lie. If you doubt this, just check out this list: “A List Of 23 Famous Obama Quotes That Turned Out To Be Broken Promises Or Cold-Hearted Lies“.

But it isn’t just our government that is falling apart. The truth is that America as a whole has been declining for a very long time.

For example, American families have never before been in such horrendous condition. If you doubt this, just read the statistics in my previous article entitled “27 Facts That Prove That The Family In America Is In The Worst Shape Ever“.

And it isn’t just our families that are in trouble. Everywhere you look these days, you can see the signs of advanced moral decay. Things have gotten so bad that even the mainstream media is talking about this. The following is from a Wall Street Journal editorial that was published just a few days ago…

“What’s celebrity sex, Dad?” It was my 7-year-old son, who had been looking over my shoulder at my computer screen. He mispronounced “celebrity” but spoke the word “sex” as if he had been using it all his life. “Celebrity six,” I said, abruptly closing my AOL screen. “It’s a game famous people play in teams of three,” I said, as I ushered him out of my office and downstairs into what I assumed was the safety of the living room.

No such luck. His 3-year-old sister had gotten her precocious little hands on my wife’s iPhone as it was charging on a table next to the sofa. By randomly tapping icons on the screen, she had conjured up an image of Beyoncé barely clad in black leather, caught in a suggestive pose that I hoped would suggest nothing at all to her or her brother.

And so it went on this typical weekend. The eff-word popped out of TV programs we thought were friendly enough to have on while the children played in the next room. Ads depicting all but naked couples beckoned to them from the mainstream magazines scattered around the house. The kids peered over my shoulder as I perused my email inbox, their curiosity piqued by the endless stream of solicitations having to do with one aspect or another of sex, sex, sex!

The reality is that if someone actually wanted to destroy America from the inside on purpose, they could hardly improve on what is already happening.

And we were warned that this would take place.

On April 3rd, 1965 legendary radio host Paul Harvey issued a warning to America. In this warning, he described what he thought the devil should do if the devil wanted to destroy America. Sadly, the truth is that most of what Paul Harvey warned us about back then has now come to pass…

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If I were the Devil . . . I mean, if I were the Prince of Darkness, I would of course, want to engulf the whole earth in darkness. I would have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree, so I should set about however necessary to take over the United States.

I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.”

To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”.

In the ears of the young marrieds, I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. I would caution them not to be extreme in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct.

And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me: “Our Father, which art in Washington” . . .

If I were the devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull an uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and vice versa.

And then, if I were the devil, I’d get organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing and less work, because idle hands usually work for me.

I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s right.”

With flattery and promises of power, I could get the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then from the houses of Congress and then, in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and I would deify science because that way men would become smart enough to create super weapons, but not wise enough to control them.

If I were Satan, I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take from those who have and I would give to those who wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. And then, my police state would force everybody back to work. Then, I could separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps.

In other words, if I were Satan,
I’d just keep on doing what he’s doing.

Paul Harvey, Good Day.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LJc8Mzg0C-c

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Godfrey Bloom: “The State is an Institution of Theft” (Except of Course for Politicians and their Escape Hatches)

Posted By Mike "Mish" Shedlock on Dec 8, 2013 | 2 Comments



Here’s an interesting video courtesy of a reader from the Republic of Slovenia who sent the link.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CBVFpYN0iNo

Link if video does not play: State is an Institution of Theft
Transcript – Godfrey Bloom – Member of European Parliament
Mr. President, I am minded to quote the great American philosopher Murray Rothbard here. The state is an institution of theft. Tax is just about a system of politicians and bureaucrats who steal money from their citizens to squander in the most disgraceful manner. This place is no exception.
Fascinatingly, and I really don’t know how you manage to keep a straight face when you are talking about tax evasion. The whole commission and the commission bureaucracy avoid their taxes. You don’t pay taxes like citizens pay taxes. You have all sorts of special deals: tax rates, high tax thresholds, non-contributing pension schemes. You are the biggest tax avoiders in Europe. And here you sit pontificating, well the message is getting home to the people of the European Union.
You are going to find that eurosceptics are coming back in June, in ever greater numbers. And I can tell you worse, as the people get your number, it won’t be long before they storm this chamber and hang you. And they’ll be right.
Who is Murray Rothbard?
Three cheers for a great speech on the hypocrite nannycrats. And as many Mish readers know Murray Rothbard is far beyond a “great American philosopher“.
As Wikipedia explains, Murray Rothbard …
“was an American economist of the Austrian School, a historian, and a political theorist whose writings and personal influence played a seminal role in the development of modern libertarianism. Rothbard was the founder and leading theoretician of anarcho-capitalism, a staunch advocate of historical revisionism, and a central figure in the twentieth-century American libertarian movement. He wrote over twenty books on anarchist theory, history, economics, and other subjects. Rothbard asserted that all services provided by the “monopoly system of the corporate state” could be provided more efficiently by the private sector and wrote that the state is “the organization of robbery systematized and writ large. He called fractional reserve banking a form of fraud and opposed central banking. He categorically opposed all military, political, and economic interventionism in the affairs of other nations. In the words of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “There would be no anarcho-capitalist movement to speak of without Rothbard.”
Case Against the Fed
I highly recommend two easy-to-read book by Rothbard, both available as free eBooks courtesy of the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
Case Against The Fed
What Has Government Done to Our Money
Please read the books! They are free, short, and easy to understand. They explain the fraudulent nature of the economic system we are in.

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People were scoffed at when they mentioned this during his first term... but now it is a serious discussion... Do not pass it off as a flight of fancy so quickly!
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Is Obama Planning a Third Term as President & Is Congress Able to Stop Him?
Posted By Ed Wood on Dec 8, 2013 | 76 Comments



A third term for President Obama? Impossible you say. Unconstitutional you say. True. The 22nd Amendment says, “No person shall be elected to the office of President more than twice.” In 1947 FDR had just been elected to an unprecedented fourth term. After twelve years in office, political cronyism was so deeply ingrained in public law and philosophy that Congress called a Constitutional Convention for the purpose of proposing the 22nd Amendment; subsequently ratified by three-fourths of the states and enacted into law.
So how can President Obama seek a third term? Well, the Constitution also says in Article II, Section 1 that, “No person except a natural born Citizen. . . shall be eligible to the Office of President.” How’s that one been working out for ya? We will no doubt be hearing much more about that should Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) seek the presidential nomination, but that’s another story for another day.
Two weeks ago the Washington Post ran an article by Jonathan Zimmerman, a professor of history and education at New York University, entitled “End Presidential Term Limits.” It was by no means the first time the issue has been raised. Last January the Western Center for Journalism published an article asking, “Is Obama Planning a Third Term?” The author observed that even after his re-election, President Obama was still attempted to solidify his 47% dependency base — as has now been further evidenced by his support of current populist issues such as the striking McDonald’s workers, his calling for a increase in the minimum wage, extension of the unemployment entitlements due to expire at the end of this month, plus amnesty for illegal aliens. You can add to this his continued political campaigning while serious problems such as the destruction of the private health care insurance industry, nuclear proliferation by Iran and North Korea, pending debt limit debate, record unemployment, etc., go unattended.
So what about the 22nd Amendment? How could he do that? No problem. The first week of December the House Judicial Committee held a hearing on Presidential Constitutional Violations, and what might Congress be able to do about it. Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, (R-VA) set the stage by stating, “President Obama has blatantly disregarded the Constitution’s mandate to faithfully execute the laws. He has changed key provisions in Obamacare without congressional approval, failed to enforce our immigration and drug laws, and ignored his constitutional duties for the sake of politics.” The Committee invited four constitutional scholars to make recommendations as to how such Presidential actions could be curbed. The panel included Jonathan Turley, Professor, George Washington University Law School; Nicholas Rosenkranz, Professor, Georgetown University Law Center; Simon Lazarus, Senior Counsel, Constitutional Accountability Center; and Michael Cannon, Director of Health Policy Studies, Cato Institute. Within 20 minutes of calling the meeting to order, all Democrat members left the chamber, which might be construed as being indicative of their lack of interest in the subject at hand.
Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) raised the point that if President Obama can violate other laws of his choosing, can he also violate election laws? And if so, is there anything Congress can do about it? The answer from this esteemed panel of experts: Yes and No. Yes, as we have seen, this president can and does violate enacted legislation with impunity. Is there anything Congress can do about it? No. Is Congressional impeachment a possibility? No, not under the present control of the Senate.
So, if Congress is helpless, what remedy remains? The panel concluded that the only remedy available rests in power of the ballot box. As I have pointed out in my previous four articles on government sanctioned voter irregularity, this has become a greatly weakened power.
So is a third term for President Obama a distinct possibility? You betcha!

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Obama's POST PURGE Military is quite a bit different in the way they speak in the open about the Constitution they took an Oath to protect... These NEW TYPES of "OFFICERS" are the NAZI ROBOTS I spoke of in Post #1.

Army Officer Wants You Disarmed: “We Will Pry Your Gun from Your Cold, Dead Fingers”
Posted By Mac Slavo on Dec 7, 2013 | 808 Comments



Within the upper echelons of our military there still remain men and women who are committed to the fundamental laws of the land. But assuming that all members of our military will be there to support the Constitution of the United States when our nation needs them most would be a mistake.
Understand this: There are those within their ranks who would turn on their oaths and forcibly seize the very rights our Founders fought so hard to preserve without giving it a second thought.
cold-dead-handsThe following opinion piece, penned by Lt. Col. Robert Bateman, shows in stark detail exactly what we’re dealing with and argues in no uncertain terms that the American public must be disarmed in order for the United States to survive.
The ideas proposed by Lt. Col. Bateman in It’s Time to Talk About Guns and the Supreme Court are nothing short of shocking.
This is coming from an active military commander, and though not officially sanctioned by the administration, his work is obviously a propaganda piece designed to give the gun grabber initiative direct support from military leadership.
Guns are tools. I use these tools in my job. But like all tools one must be trained and educated in their use. Weapons are there for the “well regulated militia.” Their use, therefore, must be in defense of the nation. Shooting and killing somebody because they were not “upset enough” over the loss of a college football team should not be possible in our great nation. Which is why I am adding the following “Gun Plank” to the Bateman-Pierce platform. Here are some suggestions:
1. The only guns permitted will be the following:
a. Smoothbore or Rifled muzzle-loading blackpowder muskets. No 7-11 in history has ever been held up with one of these.
b. Double-barrel breech-loading shotguns. Hunting with these is valid.
c. Bolt-action rifles with a magazine capacity no greater than five rounds. Like I said, hunting is valid. But if you cannot bring down a defenseless deer in under five rounds, then you have no fking reason to be holding a killing tool in the first place.
2. We will pry your gun from your cold, dead, fingers. That is because I am willing to wait until you die, hopefully of natural causes. Guns, except for the three approved categories, cannot be inherited. When you die your weapons must be turned into the local police department, which will then destroy them. (Weapons of historical significance will be de-milled, but may be preserved.)
3. Police departments are no longer allowed to sell or auction weapons used in crimes after the cases have been closed. (That will piss off some cops, since they really need this money. But you know what they need more? Less violence and death. By continuing the process of weapon recirculation, they are only making their jobs — or the jobs of some other cops — harder.)
4. We will submit a new tax on ammunition. In the first two years it will be 400 percent of the current retail cost of that type of ammunition. (Exemptions for the ammo used by the approved weapons.) Thereafter it will increase by 20 percent per year.
5. We will initiate a nationwide “buy-back” program, effective immediately, with the payouts coming from the DoD budget. This buy-back program will start purchasing weapons at 200 percent of their face value the first year, 150 percent the second year, 100 percent the third year. Thereafter there will be a 10 year pause, at which point the guns can be sold to the government at 10 percent of their value for the next 50 years.
6. The major gun manufactures of the United States, less those who create weapons for the federal government and the armed forces, will be bought out by the United States of America, for our own damned good.
Excerpted from Esquire Magazine via Sipsey Street Irregulars
You won’t see the establishment media publishing arguments from top military leaders in support of the Second Amendment. Sadly, however, those who would take away our right to defend ourselves have been given a limitless platform to push their agenda to the masses.
Hundreds of thousands of services members, both active and retired, have put their lives on the line to uphold those rights which have made our nation great. There’s no doubt that they will do so again when the need arises.
But on the flip side of that coin are potentially hundreds of thousands of others who have no qualms about “just following orders.”
A report earlier this year from well connected philanthropist Dr. Jim Garrow claims that there is a new litmus test for military leadership:
I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks.
“The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”.
Those who will not are being removed.
Obviously, Lt. Col. Robert Bateman passed the test with flying colors.

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If it weren't for having extended family where we currently reside who will need us to stay around to survive the next few years, I would be investigating expatriation from the U.S.

Americans need to grow a conscience and align with Higher Power guidance...that's going to happen eventually in the U.S. and everywhere else on the planet, but it's going to be a very difficult road ahead since we as a nation are so far off course already.

Higher Power guidance through intuition is so important. When intuition and rational minds work together, we have the best answers possible.

No doubt the banksters and ex-intel types have been manipulated and lied to, as they have manipulated and lied to us. At some point in the future we all will need some way to move forward. A pardon in exchange for confessions, combined with a return of stolen wealth, may be the only solution.

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I agree this Thread has taken a bit of a fearful and negative turn here and there. I hate using fear to wake people up... the hour is here though. I also hate to see a lot of denial in America. I so often hear that "This is America, That kind of thing could NEVER happen here!"...

Think hard and listen closely to what I have to say here... The discussions in this very thread are not that different from the conversations that occurred in PRE WAR Germany prior from 1932 to 1938. People were "Feeling and Discerning" from a "Higher Power" that they should move their wealth and families out of that region. Many did, and moved them them only a few small borders away to Switzerland or France. This turned out to be no far enough and they lost the lives of many of their families and their wealth.

Many of us who grew up listening to people who lived and experienced that time period KNOW what they endured. To be able to repeat such a history a generation has to be skipped and brainwashed to wonder what exactly did happen... There has to be TWO sides to the story right? The victors write history so there is no truth in history books just perspective. This is what they are learning in Universities. There is truth to the fact that the victors write the history. The people who lived through so many "Progressive Revolutions" that started out with power slogans of redistribution of wealth and veiled Marxism see the cycle for what it is.

The fact is that yes, this corporate greed system has failed. Another fact is that no matter how many times it has been tried Marxism/Communism/Progressiveism has never worked either. It has ended in the deaths of thousands if not millions of the host countries own citizens. IT WILL BE NO DIFFERENT HERE! Yet, we are electing people who think WE will be the ones that will meld Marxism and Capitalism and be successful and NOT abuse power, NOT abuse civil rights and NO ONE will be jailed or loose their lives.

There is a lot that We The People need to wake up from... The above is just one of the scary realities. Many people in history said to them selves "It CANNOT HAPPEN HERE"! It may make me sound like an alarmist or nut, I am okay with that. The FRAME WORK IS IN PLACE FOR IT TO HAPPEN HERE IN AMERICA NOW!

Are YOU convinced enough that IT WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN HERE, to sit back and just let the "Process" occur in D.C.?



The Below Article Sums It Up Best:

http://gunslingersjournal.blogspot.c...-kill-you.html

They WILL Kill You

May I reiterate a point I made a bit ago?

Maybe it's the drone white paper. Killing Americans willy-nilly because some "highly informed" political official deems them dangerous, or it's too "burdensome" for government to get, you know, judicial or Congressional review...

Progressives will always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens.

Let me say that again.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

The only exceptions are those that are blessedly removed from office before they are able to gather enough power to execute such orders.

Progressives are collectivists are socialists are communists are tyrants & dictators.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

When I say the names Stalin, Hitler, Mao, today's Progressive apologists say something like, "Oh, they were monsters, OUR progressives-collectivists-socialists-communists aren't doing that!"

Well, Stalin didn't do it either. Until he could. Then he did.
Lenin didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Hitler didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Pol Pot didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Castro didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Che Guevera didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Mao didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Ho Chi Min didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Kim Jong Il didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.

Woodrow Wilson didn't do it, because there was that pesky Constitution, that back then, people actually believed in. (Trust me. It's the only reason he didn't.) He DID put people in prison for speaking out against the war or his government. Because he could.

Franklin Roosevelt didn't do it. But he did put thousands of Americans into concentration camps. Because he could.

Barack Øbama's just starting slow. He's picking off individual fellow-citizens in other countries. (And, of course, anyone else who happens to get caught in the line of fire.) Because he can.

Can he? Are we really going to allow that? Are we really going to permit this?

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

It's a law of nature.
It's the logical conclusion of their way of thinking.

In the beginning a progressive will lie, cheat, steal, destroy, smear, ruin, in order to force his vision of "utopia" down the throats of people who don't want it. Because he believes he knows better than they. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

A progressive will continue to use the same tactics throughout his life. What others want or prefer means nothing to him. He has decided what's best for others and will move the world to make sure it is imposed upon them. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

As his power increases, his tactics become more overt, aggressive and violent.

And of course, any threat to his power is a threat to the "good of the collective" and the Utopian dream. And it must be mercilessly snuffed out for the good of all. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

In order to impose his will on everyone else, it is necessary to rule them all with a iron fist. And ultimately the only way to do that is to use extreme violence. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

And there will always be some troublesome people who are just ruining it for everybody else. Who just won't go along. Who are dissenters and disrupters. Enemies of the peace. Enemies of the people. Enemies of the collective and their dreams of Utopia. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

And for the dream to survive and come to fruition, such people must be eliminated.

It's the law of the nature of Progressives.

It's evident in their ready impulse to silence voices that disagree with them. An example is their enthusiasm for a Talk-Radio "Fairness Doctrine". The fact that there is one place in the culture that actually has the audacity to speak full-throated Conservatism/Libertarianism is utterly unacceptable to them. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

That Academia, the entire Media, all of Entertainment, and the Music industry (with the exception of some country singers) are in lockstep with their Progressive propaganda is not good enough. No one must be allowed to dissent. There must be NO voices questioning their message. All other voices must be silenced. All enemies must be neutralized. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

It's evident in their PC charges of "racism" "homophobia", designed for no other reason than to shut opposition down. To shut you up. (SOUND FAMILIAR YET?/COREY)

That's all Political Correctness is: Progressives' attempt to silence voices and ban ideas they don't like and don't want anybody to hear.

And those behaviors, friends, are the first steps of the eventual Stalinian mass-murderer.

Yes. That's extreme. But it's also true.

Every progressive is an incipient mass murderer. Most just don't have the opportunity to mature into their full potential.

Progressives use whatever nasty bits of power and corruption they can accumulate. If it's a little, they smear you. If it's a lot, they kill you.

DO. NOT. DOUBT. ME.

The Gunslinger

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ADDED: It does leave me with a sick feeling in my soul that not only WE are in such a negative place in our own timeline but that the last "True Insider" information I received from my sources was of such a pessimistic nature. As I reported in my original post #1 of this Thread...

I do not think this NEGATIVE VIBE/TIME is anything but a road bump in our overall journey as a people. I just feel that it is important that everyone be aware of the short to medium term problems we may have in store if these sources are as accurate as they have proven themselves to have been in years past. As conscious participants we can effect change and have control on what occurs! So I do not mean for anyone to dwell on the negative.

I hope you prepare for the worst but as always focus on LOVE and the importance of the relationships of those close to you we will ALL be fine. After all sharing our love and free will is what is truly important in our own individual timelines.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Rocky_Shorz]

the Neocons are no longer involved with launching new wars, I disagree it is coming and an agreement is being made with Iran that will prevent the war.

they had their chance in the last few months to kick it off, top military was released and the war didn't happen...

Putin is much more involved than most know, and is in no hurry to go to war with the US...

the currency and reset are interesting, but have been talked about for years...

The White Dragons have Ben hopeful

Jan 25 is the 400th day after the Mayan Calendar ended, which means it is "the new beginning"

kick the reset on the 24th...

[RunningDeer]

A List Of 23 Famous Obama Quotes That Turned Out To Be Broken Promises Or Cold-Hearted Lies
Links to each broken promise here.

 By Michael Snyder, on November 18th, 2013
     



How many lies can one president tell and still retain any credibility?  What you are about to see is absolutely astounding.  It is a long list of important promises that Barack Obama has broken since he has been president.  If he had only told a few lies, perhaps the American people would be willing to overlook that.  After all, pretty much all of our politicians our liars.  Unfortunately, many of the lies that Obama has told appear to have been quite cold-hearted in nature.  For example, Barack Obama repeatedly made the promise that “you will be able to keep your health care plan” under Obamacare.  But now we are learning that he knew that this was a lie all along.  Not only that, the Democrats in Congress knew that this was a lie all along too.  In fact, U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a Democrat, said the following when she was asked about Obama’s promise to the American people recently: “He should’ve just been specific. No, we all knew.”  You can see video of her making this statement right here.  The truth is that they all knew that millions upon millions of Americans would lose their current health care policies under Obamacare.  They deliberately lied just so that they could get the law passed.

And of course this is far from the only major lie that Obama has told in recent years.  The following is a list of 23 famous Obama quotes that turned out to be broken promises or cold-hearted lies…

#1 “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”

#2 “My administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government.”

#3 “We agree on reforms that will finally reduce the costs of health care. Families will save on their premiums…”

#4 “I don’t want to pit Red America against Blue America. I want to be the president
 of the United States of America.”

#5 “We’ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country that governors and mayors are pleading to fund. And the minute we can get those investments to the state level, jobs are going to be created.”

#6 “And we will pursue the housing plan I’m outlining today. And through this plan, we will help between 7 and 9 million families restructure or refinance their mortgages so they can afford—avoid foreclosure.”

#7 “I will sign a universal health-care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”

#8 “We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.”

#9 “For people with insurance, the only impact of the health-care law is that their insurance is stronger, better, and more secure than it was before. Full stop. That’s it. They don’t have to worry about anything else.”

#10 “We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, the location of so many of the worst constitutional abuses in recent years.”

#11 “Allow Americans to buy their medicines from other developed countries if the drugs are safe and prices are lower outside the U.S.”

#12 “We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years.”

#13 “Will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.”

#14 “We reject sweeping claims of ‘inherent’ presidential power.”

#15 “Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors — saving them an average of $1,400 a year– and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all.”

#16 “We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans.”

#17 “If we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do.  I will get our troops home, we will end this war.  You can take that to the bank.”

#18 “Will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.”

#19 “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

#20 “We have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism…. That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ‘Not this time….’”

#21 “We’ve got to spend some money now to pull us out of this recession. But as soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means, instead of leaving debt for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren.”

#22 “[T]oday I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay – and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”

#23 “I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear that I will execute the office of president of the United States faithfully, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States.”

About the author: Michael T. Snyder is a former Washington D.C. attorney who now publishes The Truth. His new thriller entitled “The Beginning Of The End” is now available on Amazon.com.

You're Gonna Need a Bigger Boat

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2I91DJZKRxs

[gripreaper]

[GoodETxSG]

WDS & BRICS groups play an increasingly large part in a planned Economic Reset & Debt Jubilee. Howe ever there is no shortage of high crimes, corruption & dis-information coming from that group of syndicates as well.

The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend! Others have let a good story & wishful thinking win their allegiance too quickly. Not all is as reported or as it may appear. Expect that when the new economic model & it's infrastructure is finalized that there will be an equal amount of sour grapes on all sides. The TRUE & fair rebalancing of the Currency & Asset Devaluation along with an honest merging of the Public & Secret (Shadow) Economies along with the Debt Forgiveness (Some debts many Centuries old & costly in blood & pride) will leave no group feeling victorious.

If we as a Species can overcome this & the disclosures that lead to Globally Televised Trials (DEAL with the High Crimes & Deals that got us there)... Then now we are being more realistic!

Otherwise if one is buying into a paradigm, Ying vs Yang one side takes all scenario... We are still have a long bloody road ahead of us all.

The change is coming but it is not a Horse Race, it is a wearing down of the "Elite" factions to end our economic slavery & tyranny! It is in reach if we take charge of OUR OWN Destinies & not sit back like good slaves waiting for our emancipation to be gifted us! IMHO...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
the Neocons are no longer involved with launching new wars, I disagree it is coming and an agreement is being made with Iran that will prevent the war.

they had their chance in the last few months to kick it off, top military was released and the war didn't happen...

Putin is much more involved than most know, and is in no hurry to go to war with the US...

the currency and reset are interesting, but have been talked about for years...

The White Dragons have Ben hopeful

Jan 25 is the 400th day after the Mayan Calendar ended, which means it is "the new beginning"

kick the reset on the 24th...

[gripreaper]

Hey Todd, your powerpoint is linked from Cobra's blog. Do you endorse this site?

http://2012portal.blogspot.com/2013/...nt-update.html

The collapse of the current financial system is inevitable after the Resistance removed the vast majority of physical gold from the Cabal in early 2012. That gold was underwriting the financial system and after it was gone, a countdown clock for the complete system meltdown was triggered and its collapse is expected soon. Some people expect this to happen as late as 2015:

http://www.wonksmedia.com/555plan.pdf

[Redstar Kachina]

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[araucaria]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)

Progressives will always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens.

Let me say that again.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

The only exceptions are those that are blessedly removed from office before they are able to gather enough power to execute such orders.

Progressives are collectivists are socialists are communists are tyrants & dictators.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.[/B]

When I say the names Stalin, Hitler, Mao, today's Progressive apologists say something like, "Oh, they were monsters, OUR progressives-collectivists-socialists-communists aren't doing that!"

Well, Stalin didn't do it either. Until he could. Then he did.
Lenin didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Hitler didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Pol Pot didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Castro didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Che Guevera didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Mao didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Ho Chi Min didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Kim Jong Il didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.

[COLOR="red"][B]Woodrow Wilson didn't do it, because there was that pesky Constitution, that back then, people actually believed in. (Trust me. It's the only reason he didn't.) He DID put people in prison for speaking out against the war or his government. Because he could.

Franklin Roosevelt didn't do it. But he did put thousands of Americans into concentration camps. Because he could.

Barack Øbama's just starting slow. He's picking off individual fellow-citizens in other countries. (And, of course, anyone else who happens to get caught in the line of fire.) Because he can.

We need to distinguish between words and the concepts behind them and actual people who apply (or not) the concepts they claim to hold to.
Here we have a list of people who claimed to be progressive - and who were anything but. But to denounce the very concept of progressive as a synonym of mass murderer is a grave mistake imho. For one thing it would seem to let off the hook all those reactionaries or Christian conservatives as they prefer to be known, the likes of the Reagans, the Bushes etc. etc. And for another, it puts a complete brake on any true attempts towards progress - which is precisely what a true progressive is seeking. Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were examples of what a true progressive is like, but we have so few people like that that we forget what the words even mean.

On the very simplest of levels, a progressive states that the system is bust, while the conservative or reactionary claims that not only is it not bust, it is doing a great job. Anything that blurs the boundary between these two sides to my mind is obfuscation and doing a disservice to what I thought we were trying to achieve on this forum. If this thread is going south as someone suggested, then that would the reason why.

[Carmody]

^^^ 10+ agree.

Careful with the slinging of mud -using labels. Note, as Chris Plummer said in 'the girl with the dragon tattoo', (I paraphrase) "Is it not interesting how fascists are always the first to steal the word freedom and wrap themselves in the flag. Freedom group this and freedom group that".

The trick is they use the words and the labels, as a cover. Like a disguise that fools half the people... as people make decisions of what something means, based on differences in contrast and color, ie, written words that their brain turns into internal wording, internal programming.

These 'words' are spoken in their heads by their 'ego voice', the interpreter of the flow of the moment, to become injected thoughts. ie, neuro-lingustistic programming. Which, of course, does program and hit hot buttons in their programmed psychology, their fundamental emotional directives.

I realize that when I see someone misuse the word progressive. However, most will not understand what is going on.

One has to disarm the language.

It is very important to not program the language and to realize when it is purposely done ...or accidentally done by the unaware, and to discern between the two projected states..... otherwise you are back at square one.

To recap..as long as the words, sights, and sounds are capable of being placed in front of the given human avatar and the occupant of said avatar, the 'unaware' (of this critical aspect) avatar will engage in self programming via the act of integration with the data. Thus, the art of propaganda. (Goebbels, Bernays, and the eventuality of modern media and subsequent saturation techniques, in order to hold the spell)

[GoodETxSG]

araucaria some of what you say causes me to bring up some points. This is not directed at you at all or at your post in general. I have received some emails and some other posts that were pretty venomous (Yours was quite polite thank you) at my private email and on my Facebook Group on Banking and Government Corruption (http://www.facebook.com/BankAndPolit...cialCorruption). Americans and their level of denial and arrogance is stunning! We have no clue how the rest of the World see's us...

Lets not let our own religious view or perceptions of other religious views cloud this political ideology issue. Many of the people that were leaders who claimed to be "Fundamentalist Christians" were actually just Nazi Neocon Wolves in Sheep's clothing. The people on this site and others that think they are throwing intellectual blanket statements out on any number of religions are doing so based on facts and not on preconceived ideology of their own are just fooling themselves.

When it comes down to it, People are People... They are far from perfect. Though each person through life experience or parental brainwashing develops a belief system and being that it is theirs, they have studied and put much thought into it... well it must be "THE WAY"! All others are pathetic and lost, the second hand platitudes they hear... the catch phrases of what the "Others" are said to believe are heard, adopted and repeated though they may have little or no truth to them (Just some bigoted assumptions).

This is true of ALL religions! True of Christians on those of any other religion... True of Muslims on those of any other religion... True of Atheists on those of any "other religion"... True of Scientists on those of any other religion... So on and so forth. Human ignorance masked as arrogance never ceases to amaze me. Quite honestly Everything is TRUE and Nothing is TRUE depending on your own perspective and experience.

Until we as a RACE are able to live together with all of our beliefs in harmony and not judge another's religious convictions based on "Perceptions" that we can not ever fully understand then we will never be ready for true Freedom. Getting to the Liberal, Conservative, Progressive and Democrat vs Republican paradigm and separating religion (All religions are found in all of these parties, Not all Christians are Conservative/R's, not all Hispanics, African Americans & Gays are Liberal/D's etc... It is a bit insulting).

We need to stop putting each other "IN A BOX" and start thinking and working "OUTSIDE OF THE BOX". The point of the article and the post is that the "Political Progressive" movement has been trying to reinvent the same concepts over and over with the same outcome. Usually bloody ones (If you do not fit nicely in their box).

I think it may be fun to debate in anonymity online for many people, fun for some to stir the pot here and there and even the job of some to go online to do so. We really need to get away from throwing sand in the eyes of those who have different spiritual beliefs (Avalon especially is a place where those of many beliefs come together so well!). If it is a diversionary tactic it is not one that has ever worked well with the big brains and evolved minds here on this forum in my experience.

I can understand right now with all of the FEAR and DISAPPOINTMENT of BOTH sides of the political spectrum how so many have visceral reactions to information coming out about their country and people they supported. THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG FOR THE ELITE'S!!! YOU ARE WAKING UP! They have to do what they do best and that is DIVIDE US and start us fighting!

I believe this energy is misplaced... We should be banding together and focusing this energy on the "Representatives" who DO NOT REPRESENT US! They pretend to be L or C... or D or R until they are elected and then they follow their own agenda or follow the $ bread crumbs laid out by corporate lobbyist. They get elected and find out that there is a whole HIGHER POWER STRUCTURE running the World/Country that they feel compelled to bow to (And why not, the rewards are spectacular!).

This is a part of the equation that is still not in the open so we have to "Believe" or have "Faith" in the whistle blower evidence. For me it is as real as any other part of everyday life. I personally experienced it and rubbed shoulders with these people. They call themselves "Progressives" in conversations and on paper. I have had in depth conversations with them about their goals for this country and the world. If you deviate from fitting in to their box or endanger their plan of what they know through their ideology is best for you, they WILL put you in prison or worse. No discussion or debate, once they have to power to implement their vision of utopia. Not only IMHO but in my experience being in the belly of the Beast.

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)

Progressives will always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens.

Let me say that again.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

The only exceptions are those that are blessedly removed from office before they are able to gather enough power to execute such orders.

Progressives are collectivists are socialists are communists are tyrants & dictators.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.[/B]

When I say the names Stalin, Hitler, Mao, today's Progressive apologists say something like, "Oh, they were monsters, OUR progressives-collectivists-socialists-communists aren't doing that!"

Well, Stalin didn't do it either. Until he could. Then he did.
Lenin didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Hitler didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Pol Pot didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Castro didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Che Guevera didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Mao didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Ho Chi Min didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Kim Jong Il didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.

[COLOR="red"][B]Woodrow Wilson didn't do it, because there was that pesky Constitution, that back then, people actually believed in. (Trust me. It's the only reason he didn't.) He DID put people in prison for speaking out against the war or his government. Because he could.

Franklin Roosevelt didn't do it. But he did put thousands of Americans into concentration camps. Because he could.

Barack Øbama's just starting slow. He's picking off individual fellow-citizens in other countries. (And, of course, anyone else who happens to get caught in the line of fire.) Because he can.

We need to distinguish between words and the concepts behind them and actual people who apply (or not) the concepts they claim to hold to.
Here we have a list of people who claimed to be progressive - and who were anything but. But to denounce the very concept of progressive as a synonym of mass murderer is a grave mistake imho. For one thing it would seem to let off the hook all those reactionaries or Christian conservatives as they prefer to be known, the likes of the Reagans, the Bushes etc. etc. And for another, it puts a complete brake on any true attempts towards progress - which is precisely what a true progressive is seeking. Gandhi and Nelson Mandela were examples of what a true progressive is like, but we have so few people like that that we forget what the words even mean.

On the very simplest of levels, a progressive states that the system is bust, while the conservative or reactionary claims that not only is it not bust, it is doing a great job. Anything that blurs the boundary between these two sides to my mind is obfuscation and doing a disservice to what I thought we were trying to achieve on this forum. If this thread is going south as someone suggested, then that would the reason why.

Yea, I know... Glenn Beck... Not usually my favorite source of info, but in this case he follows the history quite well and the research is sound as the foot notes lead you to follow the research yourself (All to make a point, pointing fingers at any single group is dangerous and we do not need a modern day witch hunt. We just have an immediate threat gaining power and this is because there is PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND!)

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/art...cle/198/23936/

American Progressivism
Thursday, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:17 AM CDT

I. Who were the Progressives, and why are they important?
II. The Progressives and their Attack on America’s Founding
III. How the Progressives Originated the Modern Presidency
IV. Progressivism and Socialism
V. Progressivism and the Current Crisis

[Carmody]

What they have done then, is to add the socipathic low empathy imperative to the idea to societal control, and societal directives, in the idea of being clear, going clear,and getting what they want. taking the short cut of killing and defeating anything that gets in their way.

To take humanity and drive it like a giant directed truck that crushes all opposition, all over the world, in order to reach the controllers goals (steps and stages of that goal, etc).

IMO and IME, this is exactly the thing that is NOT going to be getting out into the universe. No matter how hard it tries. Struggle it may, end it will.

[mountain_jim]

My understood definitions - to be progressive (small letters) is to be open to change, to be conservative is to resist change - I also agree x 10 with auracaria's post, as we need a lot of positive, spiritually-awakened changes to turn this around.

[GoodETxSG]

Hmmm, How you feel right now and the face you are making is a perfect time for a mirror to be placed in your hand... No matter how intellectually pondered... Labels are demeaning to others and ourselves...

IF I hit a nerve by addressing a Label you have assigned yourself then maybe you should take the time to ask why...

Meditate on that Label (And YOUR LIMITED and MANIPULATED understanding of its meaning) and why it is important to your self identity and Ego (Why is your idea of other peoples "Labels" and your limited understanding of their definition so important to YOU?).

Why should we feel the need to rub our labels against those of others and see which is most abrasive and erases the other. Is this enlightened behavior?

Is this who and where YOU want to be in this time of "Possibly" being "Ascended" from one form or another?

Is this a sign that you are of a higher density/frequency or a lower density/frequency? This battle and journey all happens "Within"... So we should be less "Reactionary" and more "Meditative" and "Thoughtful" in our actions and interactions with each other...

Maybe this is what "These Times" are all about... IMHO

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2aqxrUZiD50

[Carmody]

I agree with the thread. Intel types ARE, to my direct knowledge, burning their bridges, and moving to be as distanced from this crap as is possible. They know that at some point, the whole matter will ballistically launch on an intercept with the speeding vanes of the vertically mounted rotationally oriented air motional device.

Semantics are critical here and progressive is a slang word from the illiterate parts of the so-called 'right wing' of the USA political agenda.

But let us not dwell on what is, in the final result, a minor bit of uncomfortable wording. It was stated for clarification as to the nature of the dangers,and then, I let it go. The problems was the conflation of 'reasonable progressive', with that of despotic butchers, like Pol Pot, well, that is a very very bad and wrong thing. And it MUST be brought up as a subject.

Also, the moon is at it's square point, right now, today, it's 90degree point, which brings up issues of contrary emotion, ie, conflict with others. This is so tied to the fabric of reality, that it even has the creation of the origins of the conflict implicit in it's existence (this moon position in the heavens).

Observe the heavens, their conditions and motions together... with the static and motions of the minutiae, and then there is finally chance to see it. Until then, nothing. Just confusion. Act without cause. As above, so below.

[GoodETxSG]

The Devil is in the details... Symantec's... and vast lexicon of words we use to define things in this 3/4 D existence. If we continue to play word games we will all talk AT each other in circles and never to each other about what is truly important.

That topic is the defeat of the groups that use these definitions and words to separate us into different camps and not sit around the same camp fire and have the important discussions that will lead to our freedom from them.

Ego's must always have that one last flowery worded parting shot... And bait the next one! We have always been our own worst enemies while looking for others to blame. Is there hope for our species as a whole or at the end will it always be an isolated dying human soul seeing the path to source/love through hind sight? It does seem to be a part of our nature that we as a group are far from overcoming.

This is far from the topic of Banksters and Intel Agents fleeing to their safe places before their house of cards collapses... or is it? Words are and are not important. We assign the importance of their meaning individually first before we do as a group. Everything starts on a personal level.

If we do not dispel our differences and start looking for things to bring us together so we can purge the "Controllers" (Give them what ever name/word you are comfy with) then each of us as individuals or groups (Give ourselves what ever names/words you are comfy with) we will remain Controlled.

I tend to use the words people assign to themselves in person, in conversations, in documentation (The people that called themselves "Progressive" were Marxists and proud of it and happened to be some of the insiders that I worked with in the Federal Reserve and FEMA)... I guess I will avoid that in the future. But bottom line, this is ALL OFF TOPIC IMHO.

We really need to focus on the issue at hand. If you do not believe this is a REAL issue then this thread is not for you. I cannot convince someone that what I witnessed with my own eye's and ear's is real, that what others in high positions are reporting that jives with what my sources say is real.

I am not going to share my sources names or positions/ranks to further try to convince you or so you can verify them. Most of you are here because you are seeing things in the world that coincide with this information. I would plead that you not believe me or any one person but do your own research, the information is out there. (I have received dozens of emails about this thread, thus some of the statements/FYI)

I say lets start posting information that is back to the topic of the original post... I am going to stick to that format