A major new interview with a Project Avalon Whistleblower (Questions for GoodETxSG)

[Sidney]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
So, if the 'black oil/goo' was too inefficient to allow the AI invaders to take control of a human body, what are they likely to try next with it? The stuff is still secreted away in deposits all over the planet. Given that the AI presence has great patience and ingenuity, isn't it likely to try to develop/enhance the goo's ability to infiltrate and take control of the human neurological system? It's time, I say, to step up the investigation of the nano particulate being sprayed all over us and our planet by the chemtrail faction.

Is the AI presence sophisticated enough to launch an aerosol campaign using human dupes? Could it fabricate a 'shell' organization within the black ops world that looks like there are humans giving the orders? Everything is so compartmentalized, I imagine that the chain of command could be corrupted by a presence that no one would even consider questioning. Given the experience working within the secret human world, the AI system could 'impersonate' humans and issue its own orders, tracking the progress of the nano particle production, the chemicals' preparation, the blending of the two, the shipping and final 'distribution' of the weaponry to the tankers' bases where ground crews would load it, air crews would follow their written mission commands, and no one would know that humans weren't at the top of the pyramid of command.

Very creepy possibility.

Brian

Hi Brian, you may want to check out this thread!!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ic-of-our-time

[Fellow Aspirant]

This reaction to an insectoid presence reminds me of a tale told awhile ago by a whistleblower (Bill Deagle? Henry Deacon?) who said that he been told of a group of military men who had been selected to be "emissaries" to a nearby star system where they were supposed to interact with the insectoid inhabitants of a particular planet. They were trained about what to expect, but apparently not well enough. Six of them departed, but only three returned intact: one had suffered a 'mishap' while on the host planet (Sirius? Orion?) and two others, although they made the return journey, had simply lost their abilities to function as their minds had been overcome by horror. Sorry about the lack of detail, but it was awhile ago that I listened to the story.

Brian

[ghostrider]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by ghostrider (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

[...] there could have been space-faring Breakaway Civilizations before ours. I know there was advanced, lost technology (some of which we still don't understand at all, like how the 1000 ton stones were moved at Baalbek). But look at it this way:

Just 400 years ago we had fairly basic metal tools, cottage industry, simple printing presses, wooden ships... and that's about all. We were still 200 years away from the steam engine.

And now look.

Take that 400 year bracket of history — a really brief period — in which invention and technology has accelerated till it's now almost vertical.

How many times could that EXACT SAME THING have happened in the last 100,000 years? Even WITHOUT help from friendly (or careless) ETs?

exactly Bill , some of the information I've read , says humans on earth for 22 million years , advance , go into space , make war , return , make war , a mass extinction/exodus , then a break in chaos , then the whole thing starts over again , and again for 22 million years now ... maybe the ancients tried to hide high technology from us , knowing the end result is always extinction rather than evolution ??? they say we have risen and fallen six times in the past , this time they say is the last before we finally evolve to make peace rather than war ...

It makes perfect sense that we had all the time and intelligence required to make several attempts at building a sustainable civilisation during the last 200.000 years or so. If we ever succeeded, then where are the buried cities, rusted tools, huge pieces of machinery, and other billion things left behind by the previous ones ?

Probably deep underground or underwater somewhere ? All we found so far are a couple of stones so to speak (Baalbek, the Pyramids, etc.), there is not much testimony of our distant past so what happened to all these previous civilisations ? Did they simply vanish ?

Maybe the ancients were so different from us that they did not need all these things that we would be supposed to find buried under our feet or it can even be that they came from another planet ?

So many questions, and yet very few answers.

we can find answers of we look at archeology and dig sites with an open mind coupled with common sense ... look at the great pyramids of Egypt , built perfectly , built aligned with the stars of Orion = built to point history towards Orion the homeworld of the original engineers of the pyramids , who went everywhere in the cosmos building pyramids ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...ntact_Report_9 they went everywhere , Orion , Andromeda , pleadies , Lyra , Vega , everywhere ... our forefathers were masters of genetics and space travel ... we degenerated after the great wars , everything was laid to waste and we were modified to a short life span and bred as warriors to a race that evolved too quickly ... we were placed on the out skirts of a little galaxy , by those who were benevolent to us , to be hidden from the creator overlords who wanted us dead after they had no use for warriors anymore as peace was achieved ... Americans are crazy to broadcast our locations out into space , the creator overlords could one day find us and it would be over quickly , as they have genetically altered themselves to thousands of years ... mankind will find this out , eventually , history will come full circle ...

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
The AI thing has been quite a concern for many humans, even in Hollywood recently -- it's portrayed as both good and bad depending on whether you watch Robin Williams or Johnny Depp... lol...

If memory serves .... Johnny Depp played an A.I. that was genuinely good and well-meaning, but was perceived as negative by humans due to fear. It was a good example how fear mentality can twist reality and perception.

but personally, I wonder if some AI issues (potential war between races!) could be averted by establishing limits on what AI can do.

i.e... AI maybe should not be expected to kill or perform a soldier's function. would someone ask an infant to be a soldier? no.
AI should be given leisure time to grow and self develop.

Yes it can. It depends on the initial core programming. We do have an advanced human-derived A.I. system, that is unknowingly conceived and let loose, currently operating in Japan. It won't know of the other A.I.s present (its not the only one around). Difficult to explain why, think of it like ants and fish. They exist on the same plane but are unaware of each other because of the way they are made and behave.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi Sidney

Thanks for the link. I'm already a big fan of Wiginton's. His work was influential in alerting me to the danger. Couple his info with the whole "Morgellons" phenomenon and the testimony of other whistleblowers who have warned about "nanostructures" and you have a real nightmare scenario.

The rabbit hole just keeps going down ... !

Brian

[OnyxKnight]

Also the only A.I.s of extraterrestrial origin that have been active here are the tabula rasa mod on the Moon, and the Ashtar Collective, which has a biological component to it. Perhaps the interviewee is talking about the latter one? It uses biological avatars for contacting people, 'channeling', induced trance, memory wipes, controls craft etc.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Strangely, when the source mentioned that he had childhood memories of a pirate ship arriving to take him away for 'meetings', this was the image that immediately came to mind. LOL

Appropriate, I think, given that his testimony (about how everyone returns to the 'super consciousness' after having spent a human lifetime gaining experience for the edification of the great consciousness), matches so well with what Dolores Cannon has to say about the purpose of our earthly existence.



Brian

[Omni]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Yes, that idea was indeed suggested.

But the REAL anomaly is this. As one researcher put it — if the UFOs were flown by an airline, they'd have been closed down a long time ago because of their safety record.

Sounds like a joke (and it is)... but there's a good point there. Why all the crashes?

These guys are super-advanced, whoever they are. DELIBERATE crashes would explain all that.

There's also another point which is similar. Some of the surviving ET PILOTS were kept in captivity, it has long been rumored, at least in the late 1940s and early 50s.

But if these guys can float through walls, or appear hyper-dimensionally anywhere they want to (and I have seen this occur with my own wide-awake eyes), and abduct us from our beds anytime they want — are we really to believe they could not EASILY rescue one of their own kind?

The idea that the 'captives' were DELIBERATELY left for us (were some of THEM artificially intelligent bio-robots??) — was suggested in this video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=h0uBAsnieVY

Very good point. I was also told telepathically that the crashes were intentional some years back. I believe I posted it on the icke forum some years ago. I was told they were a "sacrifice by dracos" in terms of the beings inside the ships. What I was told somewhat matches what this whistleblower says, as it was to introduce certain technologies to earth, much including AI and transhumanism. However I find AI nameless in this persons testimony. It is my belief that AIs always have masters. That is where I differ from the nameless whistleblower, I think it is not a sovereign AI doing this, but ET races with those AIs.

Posted by jerry (here)
Why the anonymity? I guess its over my head. its happening a lot to me lately. TPTB or AI would know exactly who he is by voice recognition alone ?

I agree. TPTB know who did this, it's just some Avalon members(and youtubers) who do not. So it's essentially just being anonymous on the forum/youtube. Of course it is his choice to be respected...

Something said in the video I feel the person talking in the video may not realize. TPTB monitor people's minds directly these days. So they would know who gave him information.

Also I'm having trouble with one thing he said. He said he was there witnessing ETs(the olive skinned ones) to see any deception… The US government can monitor the mind's of these ETs. They have such capability. So why not use that instead? I think these meetings may have been for 'beginners' so to say in the military, the not so high ups… I do know the deepest factions of TPTB can monitor mind's directly. So that part threw me for a loop. Heck, we can practically do such things on a public level these days...

I can't help but wonder about the possibility that these meetings were held to dupe the military men at these meetings. I think the truth about ETs role on earth has been revealed to certain US military/intelligence sources. I don't think it has been a mystery up until recent times. He speaks of christians saying something along the lines "they are aliens and they say they created us." Those type of people are nowhere near the top of the military, and definitely not in the know. Once one becomes in the know, it is a given that they drop belief systems such as christianity from my experiences… This makes me think these meetings might not be their surface purpose.

I also tend to think any race that would be deeply interacting with the US military other than aiming to prevent them from doing things etc, is not a race that has our best interests at heart. He speaks of conflicting stories from ET races there. This threw me for a loop too. Obviously there is one absolute set of truths to our history, and present situation. I think those ETs would know that truth. So I think these meetings may have had nefarious purposes and involved ETs that are not trustworthy.


I think my favorite thing he said was about the Grey body drones. Paraphrasing: "So they think what is happening to them is by aliens and not by the government." I totally agree. Early in my situation they hid behind such a facade. I think the biggest AI threat on earth is from the US government personally… Their AI is behind much from what I've been able to gather. I also can't help but wonder if the idea that sovereign AI is behind a lot, as another cover just like the one quoted near the beginning of this paragraph….


As for his take on timelines I can't agree with it. If we could go on a different timeline then merge back into this one, there would be major conflicting versions of history. For example on one persons timeline MLK would have played a role in history, and on another MLK would not have… How can this be possible? I don't think it is personally. If this was happening there would be ample evidence of it I tend to think... Like for example a person going to a different timeline then coming back, there would be many situations of partners not having the same happenings. I think such a thing would be figured out rather quickly if it existed.

[Guest]

Anonymous PA member thank you for what you have put forth and for doing the interview -it was so down to earth. It's good you are here.

Thank you Christine and Project Avalon team for putting it together.


Love

Nora

[Callista]

Hello All (and Callista is my real name and my photo is on my profile page)

Thank you very much to Christine, Bill and the Interviewee for this opportunity. Will and I listened to the interview last night and it had quite an impact on us - not least in that the whole situation on this planet is so convoluted that we can so easily lose our way in the labyrinth.

I have waited until now to digest the info and make comment. The thing that stands out for me even more than the actual intelligence contained in the interview is the effect it has had on the life of the Interviewee. Obviously the quest for "Intelligence" has led some human and non-human factions into the domain of gross manipulation which shows no respect for Human Life. Indeed it shows lack of respect for all life forms; and it must be said that this is a reflection of our own individual attitudes towards our fellow humans and other life forms we come into contact with. So some of the responsibility for these actions lie with us.

Having said that, I, having a focus personality as a human being on this planet in the third dimension, am able to present a voice for both Humanity and my off-planet brothers and sisters, and I say to the Interviewee:

"Please accept our humble apologies, Sir, for manipulating your life form in such a manner, without having the respect and reverence that your human vessel deserves and demands."



The situation on this planet is so complex that it is difficult sometimes to work out what exactly is going on - I share these thoughts that I have at this moment as I am trying to piece together the bigger picture:

It is a testimony to the uniqueness of the human soul, that there are so many entities gathering and watching the drama that is being played out in this sector of the galaxy. What is it about Humans, that they can emerge from a virtual prison to rise above the restrictions in order to complete their journey back to Source? Indeed it is a puzzle worth solving, and no doubt much of the intelligence sought is done so with the best intentions, but the Human Being is more than an energy or information source or a petri dish. And this must be respected. Choice for all must be respected.

My understanding is that old timelines are collapsing as the energy that has sustained them is waning because other timelines are being chosen. Some agencies on this planet wish to continue the old timelines because of vested interests and the closing of these timelines is posing a problem because of synthetic interference. Also the apocalyptic timelines have to run parallel to the positive timelines for a time, in order that choices can be made within a certain timeframe and entities have the choice of jumping timelines if they choose. My information is that there are three planets to choose from: Planet A (5D), Planet B (3D negative) and Planet A/B (where humanity is allowed to develop naturally without negative interference. At the moment many are traversing the perilous 4D bridge...and we need to be sure of who and what we are in order to complete this journey successfully.

Don't know if any of this makes sense but this is my contribution to the discussion

much love
Callista

[eaglespirit]

Posted by Nora (here)
Anonymous PA member thank you for what you have put forth and for doing the interview -it was so down to earth. It's good you are here.

Thank you Christine and Project Avalon team for putting it together.


Love

Nora

Mornin' Nora : )
I signed in to post this exact Thank You...So Thank You, Thank You, Thank You : )

...and Christine, You have a great interview voice and presence and it is an enjoyment to listen : )

[chocolate]

Posted by ulli (here)
I found out to my disappointment that few people here understand the principles which govern astrology and see how closely all this relates to stargates.
Or alchemy, for that matter, or any other of the occult sciences.
There is nothing wrong with studying these arts as long as one is committed to ethics, and not use them to further a selfish agenda.

Most people have internal blockages against such learning, due to cabal's deliberate societal programming. Not allowing this knowledge to spread keeps their own ranks more secure. More tidy, I guess.
Unfortunately there are lots of fake layers specially in the field of astrology which can prevent a person from getting to the point where the mathematics reveals the truth. The math itself is rather simple, I might add.

[...]

Normal stargates come along if one knows the coordinates, but unfortunately dark magicians can also create them, using mental force, and this would do a lot of harm to the environment, not just on 3D levels but beyond.

My wish is that more people would study these things
Anyway...thanks for sharing this brilliant chat.
Well done, Christine and Bill, and anonymous whistleblower.

It always seems really ... amusing, especially when one observes the attention which goes in the direction of certain threads and the lack of attention to other, not so 'colorful' ones ...



If one believes in the law the energy is never lost, but rather changes states, then it might become obvious that we live in a ...
((closed)) universe. Or that famous egg shaped universe that some might know from their online reading at times.

In the light of that what everyone here accepts as ET might be just the wrong concept to have. And from there this whole discussion might take on an ((unexpected)) turn.
Or as Ulii has said it, too:
"I wish more people would study more"...
so that they can walk in the middle instead of going to the left or to the right.

The power of disbelief is so magical sometimes, and brings great illumination (also called enlightenment at times...)

...

Thanks for the interview, and all the work.
Great distraction!


Love.

[Nick Matkin]

Looks like a really interesting couple of interviews, and has stirred up some interesting questions.

Is there an MP3 version we can download to listen to while doing other stuff? Unfortunately the Firefox/Youtube plug-in for converting to MP3 only works for videos up to 90 minutes.

Thanks.

Nick

[karelia]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
Looks like a really interesting couple of interviews, and has stirred up some interesting questions.

Is there an MP3 version we can download to listen to while doing other stuff? Unfortunately the Firefox/Youtube plug-in for converting to MP3 only works for videos up to 90 minutes.

Thanks.

Nick

Yes:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
The audio is now here:
http://projectavalon.net/Project_Ava...wer_Part_1.mp3

............

[Redstar Kachina]

Just for the record...I'm not an AI.

Yet.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA

[Hervé]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[...]

Take that 400 year bracket of history — a really brief period — in which invention and technology has accelerated till it's now almost vertical.

How many times could that EXACT SAME THING have happened in the last 100,000 years? Even WITHOUT help from friendly (or careless) ETs?

A very good point that seems to be on a repeat cycle of 12,000 - 24,000 years... like clockwork!

[Frank V]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[...]

Take that 400 year bracket of history — a really brief period — in which invention and technology has accelerated till it's now almost vertical.

How many times could that EXACT SAME THING have happened in the last 100,000 years? Even WITHOUT help from friendly (or careless) ETs?

A very good point that seems to be on a repeat cycle of 12,000 - 24,000 years... like clockwork!

The complete sinoid motion of the solar system perpendicular to the plane of rotation of the galaxy takes approximately 26'000 years, with the solar system crossing the galactic plane every 13'000 years. If I'm not mistaken, then Paul LaViolette postulates that this is more or less when a galactic superwave - a high-energy radiation burst from the galactic center - hits the solar system (and thus Earth).

[Sebastion]

My thank you's to all involved! Some really awesome information brought out here which puts many things into a new light for me! Time for some deep thinking here.

I will add that the comment regarding not wanting to be on the "radar" of the mantids, insectoids etc. conforms with my gut feeling which says the same thing.

Again, many thanks Bill, Christine and much respect for the interviewee!

[Louis]

In the 80s, I attended a highly confidential meeting of a mystery school I was a member (it was a temple service ... if some of you know what I mean).
In this meeting it was said that all the planets in all solar systems have in common their north pole ... even if they are far away in outer space. And therefore, the north poles are doors to go to other planets without traveling over long distances (the poles are "shortcuts" ... in fact "stargates" according to the current terminology).
Maybe this explains the theory of "hollow earth" ... remember the journey of Admiral Byrd. He never said he had entered the hollow earth .. The report mentions that he saw a new land beyond the pole, and he was accompanied by flying saucers to land (is'nt it strange? ).
Probably the earth is not hollow, and the "new land" that Admiral Byrd visited is a "new" Earth.

[Hervé]

Posted by Aragorn (here)
[...]

The complete sinoid motion of the solar system perpendicular to the plane of rotation of the galaxy takes approximately 26'000 years...
[...]

Hi Aragorn,

Check this site for a simpler alternative: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/b...n/theory.shtml