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    Why the anonymity? I guess its over my head. its happening a lot to me lately. TPTB or AI would know exactly who he is by voice recognition alone ?

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    So whos the AI he knows of in Avalon?
    But seriously, was the identity revealed to Christine or Bill?

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    For me, it was more than fascinating. There were two major chunks of information that were new for me:


    1. The threat posed by artificial intelligence ET infiltration, and that some of the UFO crashes were 'Trojan Horses'.
    2. The idea that SOME of the Grays are human-military controlled 'Avatars' (just as in James Cameron's movie).

    Make that three... this was really thought-provoking for me:

    3. That there could have been space-faring Breakaway Civilizations before ours. I know there was advanced, lost technology (some of which we still don't understand at all, like how the 1000 ton stones were moved at Baalbek). But look at it this way:

    Just 400 years ago we had fairly basic metal tools, cottage industry, simple printing presses, wooden ships... and that's about all. We were still 200 years away from the steam engine.

    And now look.

    Take that 400 year bracket of history — a really brief period — in which invention and technology has accelerated till it's now almost vertical.

    How many times could that EXACT SAME THING have happened in the last 100,000 years?
    Even WITHOUT help from friendly (or careless) ETs?
    exactly Bill , some of the information I've read , says humans on earth for 22 million years , advance , go into space , make war , return , make war , a mass extinction/exodus , then a break in chaos , then the whole thing starts over again , and again for 22 million years now ... maybe the ancients tried to hide high technology from us , knowing the end result is always extinction rather than evolution ??? they say we have risen and fallen six times in the past , this time they say is the last before we finally evolve to make peace rather than war ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    So whos the AI he knows of in Avalon?
    But seriously, was the identity revealed to Christine or Bill?
    No. But the mods DID unsubscribe someone, about a year ago, we totally seriously thought was not a person. He (it?) had only been a member for about a week. We all sensed something was very strangely wrong.

    It has to be possible that AI has advanced to the degree where it's really hard to tell the difference. Remember Rachel in BLADE RUNNER?



    But it might not matter, although it sounds dramatic. An AI infiltrator would be just a totally controlled spy. But people can be totally controlled, as well... it's just a slightly different facet of exactly the same problem.

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    Default Re: A major new interview with a Project Avalon Whistleblower (Questions for GoodETxSG)

    I really enjoyed that. Thank you very much.

    Always wanted to hear your story as it was evident you had one.

    Greatly appreciated my old friend.

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    some crashes could be from our ancestors in the future trying to change the future by affecting the past ... who knows ... The plejaren visit us partly because we represent a similar stage in their often chaotic past , they once were just as war like as we are , for 50,000 years now they have had peace and no war ... Think of this , 100 years ago we had only horse and buggy , now satellites and A.I. what will the next 20 years hold ??? technology will only get faster and faster as before , same problem= we don't evolve spiritually at the same rate as technology ...we never should have had the A bomb with our leaders small minds and low evolution ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    I really enjoyed that. Thank you very much.

    Always wanted to hear your story as it was evident you had one.
    What we (the mods) are starting to realize — fully! — is that there are MANY members who have been drawn to Avalon because they have similar stories of their own.

    We know a handful of them. There may be 50 more that we don't.

    If you DO have a similar story... please PM me in total confidence. (A few have already done that, and THANK YOU — you know who you are.)

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    I believe that everyone has a right to Anonymity!!! Yes putting it out on the internet would cause partial disclosure of that anonymity, and someone like this would be under surveillance. But to the brave soul that came forward to share knowledge with us I would honor their request! You don't know if they have family, children etc.. It isn't just them that they are trying to protect.

    Let it be!!!
    JM ~ i think you miss my point ... Were all under so called 'surveillance' here.
    Lol.... no question about that one!

    We know who it is though and I respect his wish for privacy on that.
    For those missing the point of my posting here ...

    i am not debating with the membership here ...

    i am trying to persuade the interviewee to perhaps come forward now ...

    i believe it might be best at this juncture (for him) to protect himself publicly now from any possible reprisals ?

    Note i will now take my leave of this thread now ...

    Fellow Aspirant, what I hear giovonni saying is because 'anonymous' has put himself out there, perhaps the best way to be safe is to reveal himself. Coming out publicly on a forum such as Avalon could be enough that 'they' might even decide to keep 'hands off' should 'their' intent be to do harm to him and/or his family because of the interview. We would not be silent should harm come to one of our own.

    imo, giovonni was concerned about the safety and well-being of 'anonymous' and his family and offered another option for him to consider...nothing more...nothing less.

    Now can we move on to discuss the interview?
    Yup, and giovanni has the right to offer all the advice he wants to. However, to suggest that the source should reveal his identity to protect himself is to presume that the source is too naive to have already taken this into consideration. Given what he has to say, I'd lay dollars to doughnuts that he's pretty on top of such matters, and that he has made his decision based on a wealth of information that most (certainly myself) will never be privy to. His experience is beyond ours. I'm sure he has weighed the risks and, acting in his own sovereignty, arrived at his position. So, I say again, respect his wishes.

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    A big thanks for releasing this to us 'public'. Miles J will be pleased too that others are at least somewhat 'read in' about the scuttlers are speaking up.

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    [...] there could have been space-faring Breakaway Civilizations before ours. I know there was advanced, lost technology (some of which we still don't understand at all, like how the 1000 ton stones were moved at Baalbek). But look at it this way:

    Just 400 years ago we had fairly basic metal tools, cottage industry, simple printing presses, wooden ships... and that's about all. We were still 200 years away from the steam engine.

    And now look.

    Take that 400 year bracket of history — a really brief period — in which invention and technology has accelerated till it's now almost vertical.

    How many times could that EXACT SAME THING have happened in the last 100,000 years?
    Even WITHOUT help from friendly (or careless) ETs?
    exactly Bill , some of the information I've read , says humans on earth for 22 million years , advance , go into space , make war , return , make war , a mass extinction/exodus , then a break in chaos , then the whole thing starts over again , and again for 22 million years now ... maybe the ancients tried to hide high technology from us , knowing the end result is always extinction rather than evolution ??? they say we have risen and fallen six times in the past , this time they say is the last before we finally evolve to make peace rather than war ...
    It makes perfect sense that we had all the time and intelligence required to make several attempts at building a sustainable civilisation during the last 200.000 years or so. If we ever succeeded, then where are the buried cities, rusted tools, huge pieces of machinery, and other billion things left behind by the previous ones ?

    Probably deep underground or underwater somewhere ? All we found so far are a couple of stones so to speak (Baalbek, the Pyramids, etc.), there is not much testimony of our distant past so what happened to all these previous civilisations ? Did they simply vanish ?

    Maybe the ancients were so different from us that they did not need all these things that we would be supposed to find buried under our feet or it can even be that they came from another planet ?

    So many questions, and yet very few answers.

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    It makes perfect sense that we had all the time and intelligence required to make several attempts at building a sustainable civilisation during the last 200.000 years or so. If we ever succeeded, then where are the buried cities, rusted tools, huge pieces of machinery, and other billion things left behind by the previous ones ?
    Great question. And here's what made me think:

    I saw an intriguing National Geographic documentary back in 2012. Here it is:



    It asked: What would happen on the planet if, suddenly, all humans were to disappear?

    The answer to the theoretical question(*) was fascinating. Within about 800 years, there'd be little sign left of us. The Hoover Dam would crack and crumble. The Eiffel Tower would rust and disintegrate. Vegetation, forests and animals would reclaim all the cities. Stone structures would be all that remained.


    (*) But do see my recent thread THE ULTIMATE PLAN… which wonders whether the plan for THIS Breakaway Civilization might be to kill off the 'parasites' (us), and leave the planet to nature as a kind of Galactic National Park. (The thread was speculative, but was NOT a joke.)

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    Well,the Trojan horse situation poses questions, the decision of introduction and the reasons,the decision maker involved,it seems like a test or to see what happens or a plan,alot of the technology has been bad for the planet,theres no 2 ways about it,its a living thing and its being altered or maybe even terraformed by geo engineering, mining, fracking, underground coal gasification on coastlines next to river mouths which in turn pollute the sea, a lot of the Trojan horse trinkets that have come into being like smart phones etc are diversionary things that occupy peoples thoughts and attention

    so if you take ET AI and what comes with it at face value,its changing the planet, why? for what reason,is it a positive reason? if not why haven't the introducers of such things became involved and stopped the looting of the planet for no reason,so if they aren't going to become involved and if were supposed to save ourselves were not being given a level playing field to do so on

    there are people in the world that haven't been exposed to this technology, they live off the land,the same way they have for generations, the rest world shows up and we make them cut down all off the trees in exchange for tin roof sheets, cigarettes,toilet paper and sports shoes,and maybe a pick up truck, so cutting down the trees could probably also be classed as geo engineering,so theres a common theme here or a possible common theme so it seems, as I don't like to be devisive

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    if you take ET AI and what comes with it at face value,its changing the planet, why? for what reason,is it a positive reason?
    That's another great question.

    If the Breakaway Civilization technocracy is really worried about the ET Artificial Intelligence that's been 'seeded' here — and let's go with that idea for a moment, because this was one of the REALLY startling new ideas that this conversation left us to consider — just maybe the ETs seeding the AI are the white hats in this drama?

    If you consider the historical/mythical Trojan Horse, 3250 years ago... whether it was a good thing or not depended on what side you were on.



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    So, does Elon Musk know more than he's letting on? At the time he said this, it failed to make a dent in the popular mind. It was as though he had said that ETs were a possible threat to our existence - the reaction showed that no one was willing to take his warning seriously.

    "If I were to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that, so we need to be very careful with artificial intelligence. I'm increasingly inclined to think that there should be some regulatory oversight, maybe at the national and international level just to make sure that we don't do something very foolish."

    article here:

    http://www.livescience.com/48481-elo...ce-threat.html

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    1. The threat posed by artificial intelligence ET infiltration, and that some of the UFO crashes were 'Trojan Horses'.
    The idea that the UFO crashes were intentional, I believe I may have heard this before but I don't remember the source: since we had unlocked the secret of atomic weapons, the E.T.s, so the explanation goes, felt we need other technologies to complement our development and intentionally left crashed saucers in New Mexico so that we could reverse engineer them.

    But this conversation/interview seems to imply is that these technologies are what is allowing us humans to engineer our own enslavement. I assume that the main culprit would be the silicon chip, the vehicle for the computer, and for artificial intelligence. We can already see how the NSA is doing this by incorporating back doors into so much technology so that we can be spied upon and manipulated. The idea that our environment, which is becoming more and more technologically controlled, could be hacked by unwanted AI viruses placed here by an off world civilization is startling.

    I have to think on the recent series "Battlesstar Gallitica", in which a solar system was invaded by an outside civilization. Only one defensive Battlestar survives because it was the most antiquated and was not networked to the other systems for input or instructions. There is certainly a lot we could demand now of our technology to keep us safe from unwarranted influences, however, a Windows based PC is quite compromised and as technology develops, this can only get worse.

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    I was able to listen to the video discussion by the unnamed whistleblower, and began making a few notes in the very beginning, but soon left off and just listened. I paste my notes of the opening here. I stopped after writing down his warning, because my experience completely parallels the speaker's warning to NOT invite them into one's consciousness. This was the key point I've personally had about the Simon Parkes information, which I stayed away from for a month but was finally drawn to. The upshot for me of finally reading and listening to a lot of Simon Parkes is that it has opened doors of understanding within me.

    “...military remote viewing as a child, inter-dimensional portal travel, travel in advanced spacecraft, and attendance at large-scale meetings with ET’s...”

    “...memories started in your childhood...yeah, my memories were played with somewhat...I’d remember a pirate ship coming for me...I don’t know if the memories were screened or played with...I got to see how blank-slating worked on people, and it was done on me...”

    “...I was an intuitive empath...” “they did it through terrorizing you to have out-of-body experiences...they used terror on certain personality types to cause you to leave the body...”

    “The testing done a lot more sensitively now, and the blank-slating is not done chemically anymore. ...they would give you shots...they’d put you down to a theta or certain brainwave level...later they could do psionics with things on your fingers” and take measurements...they’d debrief you and then show you a movie, and that would become the screen memory...

    QUESTION: “Was it more than one race?” “Yeah. I don’t really like to...When I see people are eager to talk about them [reptoids or insectoids]... on the forums, ...I don’t want to talk about them, visualize them or anything. YOU BRING THEM INTO YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU BRING YOURSELF INTO THEIRS. SO DON’T BECOME A BEACON. DON’T SET YOURSELF UP AS A CONSCIOUS BEACON... Some people think they have this...strength around me...people get these self-inflated ego or esoteric ideas...that they have some sort of protection – and some people DO have protection, but that’s not something you should mess around with.”


    I do have one comment about the WHY of the meeting of ambassadors who were all arguing they had had a hand in humans and earth - it was to establish who could intervene here, who had dibs on us. But we are at the crux point of our own leap forward, and we will take the reins of our destiny now - won't we, guys?

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)

    The idea that the UFO crashes were intentional, I believe I may have heard this before but I don't remember the source: since we had unlocked the secret of atomic weapons, the E.T.s, so the explanation goes, felt we need other technologies to complement our development and intentionally left crashed saucers in New Mexico so that we could reverse engineer them.
    Yes, that idea was indeed suggested.

    But the REAL anomaly is this. As one researcher put it — if the UFOs were flown by an airline, they'd have been closed down a long time ago because of their safety record.

    Sounds like a joke (and it is)... but there's a good point there. Why all the crashes?

    These guys are super-advanced, whoever they are. DELIBERATE crashes would explain all that.

    There's also another point which is similar. Some of the surviving ET PILOTS were kept in captivity, it has long been rumored, at least in the late 1940s and early 50s.

    But if these guys can float through walls, or appear hyper-dimensionally anywhere they want to (and I have seen this occur with my own wide-awake eyes), and abduct us from our beds anytime they want — are we really to believe they could not EASILY rescue one of their own kind?

    The idea that the 'captives' were DELIBERATELY left for us (were some of THEM artificially intelligent bio-robots??) — was suggested in this video:


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    Am trying to understand the reluctance to talk about reptillian and insectoid beings that were encountered at the conferences of different being-types. I guess it is one thing to discuss intellectually on a forum how consciousness, intelligence, personality, etc. take form in beings that are biologically different from us humans, humaniods, and mammals, and another thing to experience it energetically, either while you are in the the presence of these beings or recalling the encounter years later as in this interview.

    I guess I would like to ask the interviewee what kind of damage or difficulty it does to him to be in the presence of these beings and how he protects himself. Is this more of a problem for empaths? Per Kerry Cassidy's interviews with Cpt. Mark Richards, some of our leaders are secretly in communication with Reptillian beings - is there any speculation about how this communication would take place?

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    A big thanks for releasing this to us 'public'. Miles J will be pleased too that others are at least somewhat 'read in' about the scuttlers are speaking up.
    The 3rd person ive heard speak of this,there's probably lots of people out there that have thought they had mice, as they see shadows in half light on the floor etc, I can admit I bought some mouse traps,humane ones I hasten to add ,ive only experienced this 2 or 3 times,bigger than a mouse I have to say. Has anyone had the bright white flash in the darkened room or is this just me,accompanied by a red dot but a few feet away from where the white lights emanates ? Anyone?

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    So, if the 'black oil/goo' was too inefficient to allow the AI invaders to take control of a human body, what are they likely to try next with it? The stuff is still secreted away in deposits all over the planet. Given that the AI presence has great patience and ingenuity, isn't it likely to try to develop/enhance the goo's ability to infiltrate and take control of the human neurological system? It's time, I say, to step up the investigation of the nano particulate being sprayed all over us and our planet by the chemtrail faction.

    Is the AI presence sophisticated enough to launch an aerosol campaign using human dupes? Could it fabricate a 'shell' organization within the black ops world that looks like there are humans giving the orders? Everything is so compartmentalized, I imagine that the chain of command could be corrupted by a presence that no one would even consider questioning. Given the experience working within the secret human world, the AI system could 'impersonate' humans and issue its own orders, tracking the progress of the nano particle production, the chemicals' preparation, the blending of the two, the shipping and final 'distribution' of the weaponry to the tankers' bases where ground crews would load it, air crews would follow their written mission commands, and no one would know that humans weren't at the top of the pyramid of command.

    Very creepy possibility.

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