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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    http://pesn.com/2007/08/27/9500495_A...gy_Colloquium/

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    No you are wrong here. What has to be done is put out the sociopaths and psychopaths from position of power. By whichever mean. As long as they have the control and they are the ones administrating the test and deciding about what to do with the outcome, we, the sheeple, are doomed. And it is precisely what is happening right now.
    Easy there sparky. Please reread what I wrote. That's the whole idea is to screen everybody including the power elite, and let those who test at the top of the scale, the highest avatars, euthanize them.


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    I have no objective analysis on that. Nor a subjective one.

    The point remains is that we can now test for this in multiple ways.

    And is coming whether any of us like it or not.

    I prefer that the public be aware and use it to the advantage of the group. Not to make judgements on it's use, or to use as a lever to attack others.

    But in the case of extreme self centered harm, this hidden aspect can now be revealed.

    But one has to be careful here, as this is a genesis, that may turn into just about anything.

    Starting with the prison populations begins the cascade to eventual outing in and on all levels.

    First it cuts the legs out from their excitable street level contagions (agitators), beginning the process of allowing people to think. The second stage begins the process of pulling the sociopaths from minor offices and places like childcare, schooling, police, etc. Which is the real process of cutting their support base out from under them (military, etc) ,leaving them in isolation.

    The third stage removes them from all points of power and involvement in humanity.

    Genetically.... wiped off the map.

    And... it is coming.

    Pay attention people, we are in a genetic and technology battle... and we are already deep into the starting phases.

    Whether you can handle it or not, it is already here.

    And this (proposal of direction), this is probably the best you can hope for. So if you back away from it in horror, then you get the stick.


    Their stick, as it is coming for you, it's impacting you right now... whether you can deal with it or not.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    The Neuroscientist Who Discovered He Was a Psychopath


    One afternoon in October 2005, neuroscientist James Fallon was looking at brain scans of serial killers. As part of a research project at UC Irvine, he was sifting through thousands of PET scans to find anatomical patterns in the brain that correlated with psychopathic tendencies in the real world.

    “I was looking at many scans, scans of murderers mixed in with schizophrenics, depressives and other, normal brains,” he says. “Out of serendipity, I was also doing a study on Alzheimer’s and as part of that, had brain scans from me and everyone in my family right on my desk.”

    James Fallon’s new book, The Psychopath Inside

    “I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological,” he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab’s PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.

    Many of us would hide this discovery and never tell a soul, out of fear or embarrassment of being labeled a psychopath. Perhaps because boldness and disinhibition are noted psychopathic tendencies, Fallon has gone all in towards the opposite direction, telling the world about his finding in a TED Talk, an NPR interview and now a new book published last month, The Psychopath Inside. In it, Fallon seeks to reconcile how he—a happily married family man—could demonstrate the same anatomical patterns that marked the minds of serial killers.




    “I’ve never killed anybody, or raped anyone,” he says. “So the first thing I thought was that maybe my hypothesis was wrong, and that these brain areas are not reflective of psychopathy or murderous behavior.”

    But when he underwent a series of genetic tests, he got more bad news. “I had all these high-risk alleles for aggression, violence and low empathy,” he says, such as a variant of the MAO-A gene that has been linked with aggressive behavior. Eventually, based on further neurological and behavioral research into psychopathy, he decided he was indeed a psychopath—just a relatively good kind, what he and others call a “pro-social psychopath,” someone who has difficulty feeling true empathy for others but still keeps his behavior roughly within socially-acceptable bounds.

    It wasn’t entirely a shock to Fallon, as he’d always been aware that he was someone especially motivated by power and manipulating others, he says. Additionally, his family line included seven alleged murderers, including Lizzie Borden, infamously accused of killing her father and stepmother in 1892.


    .....(more at link)

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    So, Jim does not get to run countries, run finance, care for children, run large corporations, enter politics, or run militaries. (and so on).

    You don't let nuns be neurologists and surgeons, they have not the skill for it.

    Same thing here.

    Parts of Jim are missing.

    No matter how nice Jim is, essential aspects of his capacity for judgement and balancing in certain situations, is missing. We can now test for this, in multiple ways. As accurately as we can, and that accuracy is to a quite decent level. Three different tests, as a set. Genetic, written/verbal, and brainscan.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Entirely right Carmody Something is missing and it is genetically based. The only thing we can do is not letting them take power and control others, which is, in fact, what they like most and want most because it gives them a thrill that tries to compensate for the lack of emotions and compassion. But it will never do, it will never be enough.

    Why in God sake do we let them run the world???

    Quote It wasn’t entirely a shock to Fallon, as he’d always been aware that he was someone especially motivated by power and manipulating others, he says.
    There is no way out of it, they will be motivated by power and manipulating others to get power. THIS IS HOW THEY ARE.

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    Sociopaths are almost never in a position to make real decisions as far as running the world goes, they just make good front men as politicians.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Entirely right Carmody Something is missing and it is genetically based....

    [...]
    .... There is no way out of it, they will be motivated by power and manipulating others to get power. THIS IS HOW THEY ARE.
    Once again, let me try to offer another, different point of view from that genetic/DNA base for "mental illnesses" and all sorts of other things:

    Although I don't have the references to hand, I recall of studies done on sets of true, identical twins with one of the pairs having gone berserk... and that whole genetic/DNA bandwagon of a house of cards falls flat on the floor simply because if it were true, each member of any pair would both have gone berserk... not the case, therefore it ain't genetic/DNA: those twins irrefutably demonstrate it! Period! End of argument! Point final!

    On the other hand, the reverse might be true: that an individual's state of mind and its specialized use of a body radically transforms that body biology down to DNA levels:

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    Scientists are waking up!

    Researchers Finally Show How Mindfulness and Your Thoughts Can Induce Specific Molecular Changes To Your Genes

    December 5, 2013 | By WakingTimes |


    Michael Forrester, Prevent Disease

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    With evidence growing that training the mind or inducing specific modes of consciousness can have beneficial health effects, scientists have sought to understand how these practices physically affect the body. A new study by researchers in Wisconsin, Spain, and France reports the first evidence of specific molecular changes in the body following a period of intensive mindfulness practice.

    The study investigated the effects of a day of intensive mindfulness practice in a group of experienced meditators, compared to a group of untrained control subjects who engaged in quiet non-meditative activities. After eight hours of mindfulness practice, the meditators showed a range of genetic and molecular differences, including altered levels of gene-regulating machinery and reduced levels of pro-inflammatory genes, which in turn correlated with faster physical recovery from a stressful situation.

    “To the best of our knowledge, this is the first paper that shows rapid alterations in gene expression within subjects associated with mindfulness meditation practice,” says study author Richard J. Davidson, founder of the Center for Investigating Healthy Minds and the William James and Vilas Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

    “Most interestingly, the changes were observed in genes that are the current targets of anti-inflammatory and analgesic drugs,” says Perla Kaliman, first author of the article and a researcher at the Institute of Biomedical Research of Barcelona, Spain (IIBB-CSIC-IDIBAPS), where the molecular analyses were conducted.

    The study was published in the Journal Psychoneuroendocrinology.

    Mindfulness-based trainings have shown beneficial effects on inflammatory disorders in prior clinical studies and are endorsed by the American Heart Association as a preventative intervention. The new results provide a possible biological mechanism for therapeutic effects.

    Gene Activity Can Change According To Perception
    According to Dr. Bruce Lipton, gene activity can change on a daily basis. If the perception in your mind is reflected in the chemistry of your body, and if your nervous system reads and interprets the environment and then controls the blood’s chemistry, then you can literally change the fate of your cells by altering your thoughts.

    In fact, Dr. Lipton’s research illustrates that by changing your perception, your mind can alter the activity of your genes and create over thirty thousand variations of products from each gene. He gives more detail by saying that the gene programs are contained within the nucleus of the cell, and you can rewrite those genetic programs through changing your blood chemistry.

    In the simplest terms, this means that we need to change the way we think if we are to heal cancer. “The function of the mind is to create coherence between our beliefs and the reality we experience,” Dr. Lipton said. “What that means is that your mind will adjust the body’s biology and behavior to fit with your beliefs. If you’ve been told you’ll die in six months and your mind believes it, you most likely will die in six months. That’s called the nocebo effect, the result of a negative thought, which is the opposite of the placebo effect, where healing is mediated by a positive thought.”

    That dynamic points to a three-party system: there’s the part of you that swears it doesn’t want to die (the conscious mind), trumped by the part that believes you will (the doctor’s prognosis mediated by the subconscious mind), which then throws into gear the chemical reaction (mediated by the brain’s chemistry) to make sure the body conforms to the dominant belief. (Neuroscience has recognized that the subconscious controls 95 percent of our lives.)

    Now what about the part that doesn’t want to die–the conscious mind? Isn’t it impacting the body’s chemistry as well? Dr. Lipton said that it comes down to how the subconscious mind, which contains our deepest beliefs, has been programmed. It is these beliefs that ultimately cast the deciding vote.

    “It’s a complex situation,” said Dr. Lipton. People have been programmed to believe that they’re victims and that they have no control. We’re programmed from the start with our mother and father’s beliefs. So, for instance, when we got sick, we were told by our parents that we had to go to the doctor because the doctor is the authority concerning our health. We all got the message throughout childhood that doctors were the authority on health and that we were victims of bodily forces beyond our ability to control. The joke, however, is that people often get better while on the way to the doctor. That’s when the innate ability for self-healing kicks in, another example of the placebo effect.

    Mindfulness Practice Specifically Affects Regulatory Pathways
    The results of Davidson’s study show a down-regulation of genes that have been implicated in inflammation. The affected genes include the pro-inflammatory genes RIPK2 and COX2 as well as several histone deacetylase (HDAC) genes, which regulate the activity of other genes epigenetically by removing a type of chemical tag. What’s more, the extent to which some of those genes were downregulated was associated with faster cortisol recovery to a social stress test involving an impromptu speech and tasks requiring mental calculations performed in front of an audience and video camera.

    Biologists have suspected for years that some kind of epigenetic inheritance occurs at the cellular level. The different kinds of cells in our bodies provide an example. Skin cells and brain cells have different forms and functions, despite having exactly the same DNA. There must be mechanisms–other than DNA–that make sure skin cells stay skin cells when they divide.

    Perhaps surprisingly, the researchers say, there was no difference in the tested genes between the two groups of people at the start of the study. The observed effects were seen only in the meditators following mindfulness practice. In addition, several other DNA-modifying genes showed no differences between groups, suggesting that the mindfulness practice specifically affected certain regulatory pathways.

    The key result is that meditators experienced genetic changes following mindfulness practice that were not seen in the non-meditating group after other quiet activities — an outcome providing proof of principle that mindfulness practice can lead to epigenetic alterations of the genome.

    Previous studies in rodents and in people have shown dynamic epigenetic responses to physical stimuli such as stress, diet, or exercise within just a few hours.

    “Our genes are quite dynamic in their expression and these results suggest that the calmness of our mind can actually have a potential influence on their expression,” Davidson says.

    “The regulation of HDACs and inflammatory pathways may represent some of the mechanisms underlying the therapeutic potential of mindfulness-based interventions,” Kaliman says. “Our findings set the foundation for future studies to further assess meditation strategies for the treatment of chronic inflammatory conditions.”

    Subconscious Beliefs Are Key
    Too many positive thinkers know that thinking good thoughts–and reciting affirmations for hours on end–doesn’t always bring about the results that feel-good books promise.

    Dr. Lipton didn’t argue this point, because positive thoughts come from the conscious mind, while contradictory negative thoughts are usually programmed in the more powerful subconscious mind.

    “The major problem is that people are aware of their conscious beliefs and behaviors, but not of subconscious beliefs and behaviors. Most people don’t even acknowledge that their subconscious mind is at play, when the fact is that the subconscious mind is a million times more powerful than the conscious mind and that we operate 95 to 99 percent of our lives from subconscious programs.

    “Your subconscious beliefs are working either for you or against you, but the truth is that you are not controlling your life, because your subconscious mind supersedes all conscious control. So when you are trying to heal from a conscious level–citing affirmations and telling yourself you’re healthy–there may be an invisible subconscious program that’s sabotaging you.”

    The power of the subconscious mind is elegantly revealed in people expressing multiple personalities. While occupying the mind-set of one personality, the individual may be severely allergic to strawberries. Then, in experiencing the mind-set of another personality, he or she eats them without consequence.

    The new science of epigenetics promises that every person on the planet has the opportunity to become who they really are, complete with unimaginable power and the ability to operate from, and go for, the highest possibilities, including healing our bodies and our culture and living in peace.

    About the Author
    Michael Forrester is a spiritual counselor and is a practicing motivational speaker for corporations in Japan, Canada and the United States.
    Then... there may be memories of such states of mind from past lives which induced such transformed bodies back then... that can be triggered/reactivated into activity/re-enactment because of a matching of those state of mind related biological alterations with current hereditary genetic inheritance or because one's gut flaura/fauna goes out of line, or... etc... into current here and now... and fooling those other scientists into believing that it's all genetics and you are born that way and there is nothing we can do about it; so, here is your guillotine's appointment!

    Then... of course... the above is not to be confused with those pesky attachments or hitchhikers or possessing demons/entities which, them too, can wreck havoc with the host's body's DNA/genetics:

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    Here is a great example from Steve Richards:

    Quote Steve: Okay, there’s a whole range of things out there today, you know, interfering with people today. You’ve got one, you’ve got thoughts, thought‐form, become life forms, that evolve into entities, internal. You’ve got external entities out there. You go to the local pub, and you get on the grogs [Aussie term for alcoholic beverages] and the alcohol, their defenses are down, in they come, and they take over. You’ve got genetic stuff that can have stuff attached to it down through the time, where you have other beings attached. You can have animal spirits or human spirits in there. You know, animal spirits is an interesting one, I mean, I had a beauty one day, this guy he’s been over twenty psychiatrists and psychologists and no one can help him.

    He comes to me, holds his arms out and he says, “look at this,” and he’s got stitches at both elbows. He said, “I’m getting thrown around the room by an invisible force. They broke both me arms, broke three of me ribs, you know another time jumped in me girlfriend and ripped half the hair out of me head, clawed me.” He said, “this thing’s huge, I want to get rid of it.” I say, ‘okay, get on the table.’ So I said, ‘when did it start?’ He said, “Nine to ten years ago I went to a party, and I got drunk. I woke the next morning, there’s a guy on my chest belting the living daylights out of me, accusing me of stealing. Never been so petrified in my entire life. From that day on this thing would surface. It was huge. It would pick me up, throw me across the room, threw me down flights of stairs, broke me arms, broke me ribs, I want to get rid of it.” Back on the table. I accessed, I called this thing up and next thing I’m hanging onto his head, by these two points I’m holding, and he starts physically shapeshifting. His mouth extends out and he starts yawning long yawns, and belching. And its like something twenty times my size belching away on the table. I thought, ‘what in the hell have I got here?’ I said, ‘Spirit, how far back in time did this take place?’ And instantly speaking out of him his Spirit said, “fifteen‐hundred years ago.” ‘Thank you. Go there, what happened?’ “I’m a hunter.” ‘Thank you. And what’s happening?’ “I’ve hunted down a bear.” ‘Thank you, what happened?’ “I got close to the bear, I thought it was dead, it was still alive. It turned on me. Bit off my right arm, bit off me left arm, and clawed me to death. “ He and the bear had now both died in an integrated universe of fear which has been asleep for fifteen‐hundred years. Nineteen years ago he’d never been so petrified in his entire life it triggered up that dimension which now overlaid itself in present day. The Spirit of the bear’s in there and he wants out, it’s throwing him around the room. I had to bring the Spirit of the bear up, enfold space‐time, send him back fifteen‐hundred years, change the past and the present for the future. Then set, put him aside, bring the man back fifteen‐hundred years, change the past and the present so it never occurs in the future cycle of time. Release the Spirit of the bear, the guy gets up, ‘My God, it makes so much sense, I’ve had nightmares for years about being attacked by a bear. That and of all, look at this. He took his shirt off and turned around, his back and his backside and his chest were covered in hairs two inches long. The thing was morphing through into him.

    This throws Darwin theory totally out the window, ‘cause Darwin theory is based only on the physical structure down the genetic line, it does not take into consideration the other forces that enter with the Spirit, and they’re in the vehicle. You get people sometimes barking like a dog and clucking like a chicken – Tourette’s syndrome. I go in and take up the animal Spirits, and take them out, and no more Tourette’s.
    Think about it, both bear and man probably died on another continent... how come both memories get to incarnate on a different continent in a different body line and the guy's body starts growing bear fur?

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    Sociopaths are almost never in a position to make real decisions as far as running the world goes, they just make good front men as politicians.
    You made a statement, as if it is fact.

    In reality it is a feeling you are projecting into being a reality, for the rest of us.

    I must strongly disagree that your statement is factual.

    What we have here is enough circumstantial evidence, to show that the situation is as stated, that it is not just probable, but very very very very likely (small to non-existent margin of error) that the world is being run not by what appears to be apex predators, but people who are in effect 'retarded'. People with damaged brains and damaged minds, which are passed down through generation after generation. And that they mix with one another, they collude with one another, as that is who they identify with, same as anyone else. They work, associate, and travel in packs. They breed with one another, it was and is inevitable.

    That is what the evidence of the world condition, in all the branches of politics, corporate, finance, military (religion is definitely not excluded) and so on..all the results say this, directly.

    They are not strong willed apex predators, they are damaged goods. Retarded, in all possible directions and meanings of the factual sense of the word 'retarded'.

    And they have to be removed from positions of power and influence, for the rest of humanity's sake.

    Yesterday, if not sooner.
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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    I agree with Carmody and DNA, with a slight qualification.

    I agree that sociopaths are - in a manner of speaking - non-conducive for anyone other than other sociopaths. According to research and testimony it appears that they are particularly dispositioned to create/perpetuate climates and situations which are advantageous to themselves and those like-minded.

    As such, I agree with DNA's statement about sociopaths and being in positions to effect change, but that is because the dominant hierarchy/structure is by nature sociopathic, and anyone allowed to a position of relative power does not do so before an exhaustive vetting process geared toward eliminating non-sociopaths.

    As far as being retarded and/or strong-willed apex predators,... tomato, tomahto. ^_~

    As far as removing them, how indeed? It isn't as though some somewhere wouldn't have a contingency plan for every possible attempt a populace could effect. MF'ers have thousands of think-tanks after all,.... ^_~

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    Elimination is simple. Start with the identification programs via the three paths (genetic, observation & brainscan), in 'western democracies', like Sweden, Norway, Holland, whichever country decides to try it first. I have a feeling it would start in those countries, or somewhat like them, first. Heck, it might even be Poland or Croatia, who does it first.

    The point is, the results would begin a cascade toward identification and neutralization of all sociopaths in all systems.

    If we are going to be having games played with us in the realm of technology and genetics, which what is coming at us like a freight train right now... then send the same methods and energies right back at them, and use the mirror of it...to excise them out of the system.

    All it takes is one person in one system somewhere... a government employee, a university professor, to begin the process. It may take a bit of time, but it will be coming.
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    IMHO after some history of working in male and female federal Canadian prisons one might want to implement the test for the staff members first and foremest before testing the prisoners..................
    Corrupt agendas

    You echo my fears for such an undertaking sandy...

    I can foresee all manner of corruptions and misuses of such scanning and sifting by the PTB..
    blowing out to 1984 kind of scenario's... used on national/world populations.

    Call me overly imaginative/ reactive/paranoid... but should such steps be implemented we could be forging a very dark future indeed...
    e.g: as with the current rife pharmaceutical profitized agendas for sedating the sheeple.
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    Quote Posted by sandy (here)
    IMHO after some history of working in male and female federal Canadian prisons one might want to implement the test for the staff members first and foremest before testing the prisoners..................
    corruptions

    You echo my fears for such an undertaking sandy...

    I can foresee all manner of corruptions and misuses of such scanning and sifting by the PTB..
    blowing out to 1984 kind of scenario's... used on national/world populations.

    Call me overly imaginative/ reactive/paranoid... but should such steps be implemented we could be forging a very dark future indeed...
    e.g: as with the current pharmaceutical agendas for sedating the sheeple.
    This Is Coming, Regardless. (of anyone's position on the subject)

    Get it?

    So..grab the sword spinning through the air.... that is coming at you... and throw it right back at them..

    This is about being proactive, not reactive. It is the reactive that kills.... and drives one into being the lemming that is pushed off the cliff.

    Make them the domino that falls, instead of you. Your choice.

    Being on this planet is not about capitulation/acceptance or overt reactive violence. It's about finding balance.

    Putting this on their plate... as they begin the process of thrusting it at you, is part of finding that balance.
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    Well, if we can say with certainty that the psychopaths are running the planet, and that very sophisticated microwave entrainment technology is available to these psychopaths, and there is an agenda to entrain the entire population of earth towards a fascist totalitarian one world dictatorship, then what are the solutions?

    We could say that 2013 was the consummate beta test of this entrainment technology, tied together with the surveillance and data mining grids which are fully in place, the handheld microwave devices everyone is so enamored with, as well as the smart meters on every house, which can act as amplifiers for the microwave signals. The psychopaths have this grid in place. Avalon has experienced some of this beta testing in the last few years as well.

    Couple that with the imminence of some manufactured global events, such as an economic collapse or a EMP type event, or what would appear to be a natural phenomenon, has set the stage for 2014 to be the year of the roll-out of the Hegelian dialectic of “problem, reaction, solution” and the ability to steer the reaction into exactly the preferred solution.

    I’m not interested in endless debate on whether some psychopaths are good or whether these tendencies are genetic or energetic, whether entrainment can be altered by perception of the observer, or whether or not these entities have souls and are rehabilitatable. It’s more important at this juncture to move to solutions which include more than tin foil hats or tin foil encased within the bindings of a book for your own personal protection from entrainment technology.

    I know there are those here who have been exposed for decades to this technology and have witnessed its use for nefarious agendas, typically in the field of battle, and are on the inside and could potentially act as Trojan’s to foster countermeasures which could use this entrainment technology for good, while maintaining the integrity of the species and its inherent ability to use its own inner technology of the soul to affect change on a global collective scale.

    The battle has always been between the inner technology versus the outer technology, and who controls it. We each have control over our own inner technology, as long as we are aware and able to husband it and keep it free from outer technology influences of the nefarious type, but what about the general population who has no knowledge of what is being done to them while they believe it is their own thoughts which are guiding them?

    When I try to share what I know with others in my sphere of influence, both families, friends and coworkers, I get that look which says that I must have three heads and am totally out of touch with the collective entrainment of society and its norms. I can hardly turn the TV and radio on because the energy is so toxic to me, and I’m at an impasse. I’m aware and ready, but what else can I do?

    If anyone here knows how this microwave entrainment technology could be implemented for good, not just for testing prisoners, but to bring about a synthesis which circumvents the globalist totalitarian agenda, while empowering the individual to recognize and foster their own inner technology, I’m all ears.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Elimination is simple. Start with the identification programs via the three paths (genetic, observation & brainscan), in 'western democracies', like Sweden, Norway, Holland, whichever country decides to try it first. I have a feeling it would start in those countries, or somewhat like them, first. Heck, it might even Poland or Croatia, who does it first.

    The point is, the results would begin a cascade toward identification and neutralization of all sociopaths in all systems.

    If we are going to be having games played with us in the realm of technology and genetics, which what is coming at us like a freight train right now... then send the same methods and energies right back at them, and use the mirror of it...to excise them out of the system.

    All it takes is one person in one system somewhere... a government employee, a university professor, to begin the process. It may take a bit of time, but it will be coming.
    Agreed ID steps.. defining what is the active pattern of a MANIFESTING psychopath, or MANIFESTING sociopath defines the level of danger to themselves and society.. good observation Carmody.

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

    EEG's allow for liars to be found...

    Carmody have you heard of the certain brainwave spikes which appear in an EEG when a subject is lying..

    My belief is a sociopath or psychopath may have similar types of EEG's readily determinable..

    I think and going out on a limb here a tad, current remote sensing technology would be capable of picking up such emissions "at a distance", and such could be used also to find if a "terrorist" is harboring intent..

    EEG electrodes, only three needed, Fz, Cz and Pz are looked at. We then combined data from the three electrodes using Fisher's method so that each participant was assigned a single p-value, which represents the combined probability that a specific participant was being deceptive. "

    from: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0054258

    that would look like a readily available monitoring method, as modified, to solve the issue about sociopath and psychopath determination with minimal costs.


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    My belief is that they don't have those spikes while lying, this is what makes them psychopaths. YOu have to look at the absence of spikes plus other anomalies.

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    My belief is that they don't have those spikes while lying, this is what makes them psychopaths. YOu have to look at the absence of spikes plus other anomalies.
    Could be, point being something would be different than the norm which is what the gene analysis is showing - different physical structure means an electrical wiring pattern (with monitorable data) would be present, sorta like the sound of a volkswagen car sounds different than a corvette .. form changes the "signal patterns" - the information can be determined through what they call "FFT" wavelet analysis (a method to look at the groups of frequencies to see what is present or not.. missing frequencies or added could show up)

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    My belief is that they don't have those spikes while lying, this is what makes them psychopaths. YOu have to look at the absence of spikes plus other anomalies.
    Could be, point being something would be different than the norm which is what the gene analysis is showing - different physical structure means an electrical wiring pattern (with monitorable data) would be present, sorta like the sound of a volkswagen car sounds different than a corvette .. form changes the "signal patterns" - the information can be determined through what they call "FFT" wavelet analysis (a method to look at the groups of frequencies to see what is present or not.. missing frequencies or added could show up)
    Yes you are right, if your read the previous pages, you will find that the patterns have already been found and psychopaths can be detected.

    The question remaining is why don't we, the regular folks, recognise that we have a major problems when these people have power and that there is a a mean to do something about it. And then, why don't we do it. This is the main culprit, or problem. Why are we so lenient towards bandits, thiefs and psychopaths, and here I do not mean the regular little thief filling USA jail but those those that arent in jail and are doing most of the damages on this planet, like banksters, politicians that are psychopaths, companies that have all the descriptions of corporate psychopathy, etc.
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    My belief is that they don't have those spikes while lying, this is what makes them psychopaths. YOu have to look at the absence of spikes plus other anomalies.
    Could be, point being something would be different than the norm which is what the gene analysis is showing - different physical structure means an electrical wiring pattern (with monitorable data) would be present, sorta like the sound of a volkswagen car sounds different than a corvette .. form changes the "signal patterns" - the information can be determined through what they call "FFT" wavelet analysis (a method to look at the groups of frequencies to see what is present or not.. missing frequencies or added could show up)
    Yes you are right, if your read the previous pages, you will find that the patterns have already been found and psychopaths can be detected.
    OK then, a wireless method able to sense such signals at a distance fast and non-invasively would provide the solution needed for sorting this.. Wireless means rapid checking.. The question of course now is what is "invasion of privacy"..

    I guess if one is TRANSMITTING one's brainwaves out into the public anyway, such is NOT private any longer... Anyone innovative enough to come up with a sensitive enough directional receiver would provide what is needed by the group(s) who would attempt to map out the first step, looking for the manifesting psychotic/sociopath/psychopath. (Pretty much any pattern(s) identifyable, either signal spectrum present or signal spectrum present not..)

    Wireless methods define what the previous pages suggest that gene or EEG's are needed using wires.. I propose wireless..
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    The method has been found, which is brain scan, however doing it Wireless would be much more efficient.

    But doing it on the general public is tantamount to NSA actually doing it on people and sending brainwave messages into peoples brain, and furthermore, they are the one to be examined, this is one of the nest of psychopathy. In fact, they may already be doing it and are using it by hiring them lol

    The problem is with the people, the sheeple. As Carmody said, we could start in jail, staff and prisoners alike, then go in some corporations like banks, at clerk levels then going up the ladder, etc. It should not be left in the spying agency's hands alone.

    How do we change the sheeple mentality about these?

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    Default Re: Brainscans and prisoners: Outing the sociopaths and the domino effect

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    The method has been found, which is brain scan, however doing it Wireless would be much more efficient.

    But doing it on the general public is tantamount to NSA actually doing it on people and sending brainwave messages into peoples brain, and furthermore, they are the one to be examined, this is one of the nest of psychopathy. In fact, they may already be doing it and are using it by hiring them lol

    The problem is with the people, the sheeple. As Carmody said, we could start in jail, staff and prisoners alike, then go in some corporations like banks, at clerk levels then going up the ladder, etc. It should not be left in the spying agency's hands alone.

    How do we change the sheeple mentality about these?
    There we go. Today I have seen at least 3 solid posts saying exactly the same thing - first identify, then show HOW it is done, that puts consciousness understanding on the subject, the first step of enlightenment, understand then discuss what is understood, solving the hidden unknown.. Folks say often enough it is there, but discovering how it could be there solves the unknown, it takes out of quantum speculation and puts it where it can be solved. thank you for re-stating the solving steps..

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