Will China's moon missions open the door to disclosure?

[mojo]

or will China keep secret her discoveries? Always thought just like the arms race, one of the superpowers would want to be the first country to disclose since they have the proof. Unlike so called third-world countries that are open for disclosure yet dont have the definitive proof it seems for the rest of the world to say ok, thats proof...

[Cidersomerset]

China's rapid climb to superpower status, even though many millions still live below
what we would call the poverty line, has been mentioned directly and indirectly by
Bob & Ion. I cannot remember the details as they are spread throughout many,
many hours of discussion. The stand out point is that China has had direct contact
with a group of ET's since 1995,They helped them to develop their super computer
technology to jump start them to catch up the west. Also the US China relationship
is not what it seems on the surface.The US has bent over backward to please them
behind the scenes and its to do with debts owed.

As to whether China will disclose any finds on the moon is very unlikely from what
I've gleaned from all these snippets of information, they are more concerned with
world status, but you never know.!!

[onawah]

It would be interesting to hear Simon Parkes' views on China's Moon mission.
He has said that there are 2 ET races influencing 2 different factions of Chinese, one pro-human and one hostile.
Nothing's simple when it comes to the Chinese, it would seem...
Although he says that Russia is being influenced by a pro-human ET race, and the evidence seems to bear that out.

[Lifebringer]

Hmm...I thought Bill Clinton sold the guidance information after he was no longer President. There was a big brouhaha over it during the 2008 Presidential election primary, and then the John Edwards stuff came out, and there wasn't any more about it. Ten years later and China is ready for launch after amassing a prosperous economic jugaunut and they are showing the space information on their own local stations. I hope this is true. Some people there post lots of their news footage and perhaps they realize it's time, and nobody can go to their country anytime they want and 'snuff whistleblowers." Nor can they do it in Russia.

[RMorgan]

Hey Mojo,

No man, it wont happen.

If they wanted to contribute to disclosure, they would've demonstrated their intentions by now.

Going to the moon wont change anything regarding this issue. They already have enough data to conduct their own full blown disclosure right now if they wanted to.

Anyway, I have a strong sensation that the disclosure deal is above any government's paygrade, anyway.

Just my two cents.

Raf.

[seehas]

dont put your power into hope, this system is corrupt and so against our true nature dont expect the system to be the changer - you have to be the change !

[Ellisa]

Do not underestimate the Chinese. They are more than capable of developing the technology they need, and like any other country, they will build on the efforts of others who went before. They are now a real superpower and I doubt they have the motivation to change the status quo with regard to space exploration and the technology needed to explore it. Why should they? No one else has, and, maybe, really, there is nothing new to disclose and we are all in the dark together as we move blindly into the future. With hope!

[Tangri]

Posted by mojo (here)
or will China keep secret her discoveries? Always thought just like the arms race, one of the superpowers would want to be the first country to disclose since they have the proof. Unlike so called third-world countries that are open for disclosure yet dont have the definitive proof it seems for the rest of the world to say ok, thats proof...

I didn't expect that you are so naive Mojo.

You think Syria, Iran, Turkey doesn't have the proof?

I am not talking about puppet politicians and their stage parliaments.

I have witnessed a lot of academics talking about it, behind closed doors but not in conferences or in public.
No one has the gut to face the consequences yet, which will be very nasty.

Mass is not ready yet cliche is not that simple as it seems.

If you believe only Americans have contact you are still in that dream America is the only world. Wake up please I was expecting more from you.

[jagman]

Tangri
You think Syria, Iran, Turkey doesn't have the proof?

Please dont take offense Tangri but if any of these countries came forward it wouldnt
really matter. It has to be China,Russia,or the US or UK otherwise it will be chalked up
has a third world country trying to get attention.

[Tangri]

Posted by jagman (here)

Tangri
You think Syria, Iran, Turkey doesn't have the proof?

Please dont take offense Tangri but if any of these countries came forward it wouldnt
really matter. It has to be China,Russia,or the US or UK otherwise it will be chalked up
has a third world country trying to get attention.

None is taken Jagman,
But don't forget not only Christians is going to be in shock and go wild. Jews, Muslims not acting wildly now because of the god's promises if you take the god from stage or screen play, imagine the out come.
They do not have tools to contain consequences .
If it happened in a small country with these communication developed times they can not be stop to spread the words.

[Operator]

Posted by Ellisa (here)
Do not underestimate the Chinese. They are more than capable of developing the technology they need, and like any other country, they will build on the efforts of others who went before. They are now a real superpower and I doubt they have the motivation to change the status quo with regard to space exploration and the technology needed to explore it.

There already was a thread on the Chinese moon mission here

From my perspective it became most interesting after post #10 by Airwooz.

In fact he reported that a Chinese official stated that China is lacking the technology to land a man on the moon. According to them it is
not so easy (or not possible) to keep a man safe on the surface on the moon and such a mission is far too risky.

I think this already is a disclosure of some kind. Similar to saying we can't do it now so the Americans certainly didn't do it 45 years ago!

Personally I became convinced over the years that Apollo technology didn't make it to the moon. The Chinese statement confirms it again.
One of my first books I bought was "Dark Mission" by Hoagland and Bara. I was excited to read about their findings that there were glass
domes on the moon etc.

Now after a couple of years more I also heard Jay Weidner's explanation of the front-screen projection techniques used by Stanley Kubrick
which clarifies the glass reflections a lot better. So, claiming to be experts, Hoagland and Bara should know better by now and I would
expect a change in view. But Hoagland still accepts/confirms all the Apollo missions as truly happened.

So who should we believe nowadays?

[jagman]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Ellisa (here)
Do not underestimate the Chinese. They are more than capable of developing the technology they need, and like any other country, they will build on the efforts of others who went before. They are now a real superpower and I doubt they have the motivation to change the status quo with regard to space exploration and the technology needed to explore it.

There already was a thread on the Chinese moon mission here

From my perspective it became most interesting after post #10 by Airwooz.

In fact he reported that a Chinese official stated that China is lacking the technology to land a man on the moon. According to them it is
not so easy (or not possible) to keep a man safe on the surface on the moon and such a mission is far too risky.

I think this already is a disclosure of some kind. Similar to saying we can't do it now so the Americans certainly didn't do it 45 years ago!

Personally I became convinced over the years that Apollo technology didn't make it to the moon. The Chinese statement confirms it again.
One of my first books I bought was "Dark Mission" by Hoagland and Bara. I was excited to read about their findings that there were glass
domes on the moon etc.

Now after a couple of years more I also heard Jay Weidner's explanation of the front-screen projection techniques used by Stanley Kubrick
which clarifies the glass reflections a lot better. So, claiming to be experts, Hoagland and Bara should know better by now and I would
expect a change in view. But Hoagland still accepts/confirms all the Apollo missions as truly happened.

So who should we believe nowadays?

You make some interesting points Operator. They could have
settled this issue with the Moon landing long ago by pointing
hubble or one of their advanced spy satelites at the landing site
and snapping some good pics.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Expect black and white photos as usual

[scanner]

The Chinese will do what most governments are doing to keep the control system going . They''ll keep treating us like mushroom, feeding us manure and keep us in the dark, imo .

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Operator (here)
So who should we believe nowadays?

That's the sixty million dollar question, isn't it?

Posted by Tangri (here)
I have witnessed a lot of academics talking about it, behind closed doors but not in conferences or in public.
No one has the gut to face the consequences yet, which will be very nasty.

I'm curious Tangri, is your quote above just referring to the religious fallout you alluded to in your other post, or is there more to this? Have you detailed the things you've heard in one of your previous posts to date?

[norman]

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)
Expect black and white photos as usual

..... and slow motion kinetics.....

[mojo]

interesting responses... Russia and the US might perceive a threat to the staus quo on the moon and now China's Space Agency will also be open for business with other countries. China could deal a severe blow to the credibility of other countries as well if they announced we are not alone up there and that the ptb knew about it and hid it from the people. China showed some intentions by going to the moon on her own and might wish to prove its new dominance in space and be even more transparent than a democracy. Imagine the psychological implications of that?

[onawah]

It may all boil down to which Chinese faction is in control of their space mission--the one that is in contact with the pro-human ETs or the one in touch with the anti-human ETs.
I believe Russia has already disclosed, though not in a particularly overt way, and they probably don't feel the need to make a bold move in that direction, which is more in keeping with the Russian character nowadays, I think.
A large percentage of people in many countries already know that we are not alone, and therefore, know that ptb have been covering it up.
But it would still definitely create a stir if it became headline news...
The real question might be, what kind of repercussions might be forthcoming from the "outed" nations toward the nation that outed them?

What I came away with finally from all the stories about the US moon mission was that we actually did get there with some help from ET that we could not duplicate for later missions, and discovered there were indeed ET structures there which they assured us were there, but most emphatically did not want us to explore.
And because the objects were clearly visible in the images the astronauts brought back, the whole mission had to be falsified in a movie studio to eliminate the possibility of said images from being seen by the public.
I believe Stanley Kubrick was employed to that purpose.
Not only did we not have the technology to get there without their help, but we were not given permission to return.
At least, not until we had done some more growing up.

[PRAGMAE]

Just wanna see that flag !