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    Turmeric Prevents Fluoride From Destroying Your Brain

    Quote Fluoride is found everywhere today, from antibiotics to drinking water, no stick pans to toothpaste, making exposure inevitable. All the more reason why new research proving this common spice can prevent fluoride damage is so promising!

    Fluoride’s neurotoxicity has been the subject of academic debate for decades, and now a matter of increasingly impassioned controversy among the general public, as well. From ‘conspiracy theories’ about it being first used in drinking water in Russian and Nazi concentration camps to chemically lobotomize captives, to its now well-known IQ lowering properties, to its ability to enhance the calcification of the pineal gland – the traditional ‘seat of the soul’ – many around the world, and increasingly in the heavily fluoridated regions of the United States, are starting to organize at the local and statewide level to oust this ubiquitous toxicant from municipal drinking water.

    Now, a new study published in the Pharmacognosy Magazine titled, “Curcumin attenuates neurotoxicity induced by fluoride: An in vivo evidence,” adds experimental support to the suspicion that fluoride is indeed a brain-damaging substance, also revealing that a natural spice-derived protective agent against the various health effects associated with this compound is available.

    The study was authored by researchers from the Department of Zoology, University College of Science, M.L. Sukhadia University, Udaipur, India, who have spent the past decade investigating the mechanisms through which fluoride induces severe neurodegenerative changes in the mammalian brain, particularly in cells of the hippocampus and cerebral cortex.[i] [ii]

    The study opens by describing the historical backdrop for concern about fluoride’s significant and wide ranging toxicity:

    “Fluoride (F) is probably the first inorganic ion which drew attention of the scientific world for its toxic effects and now the F toxicity through drinking water is well-recognized as a global problem. Health effect reports on F exposure also include various cancers, adverse reproductive activities, cardiovascular, and neurological diseases.[1,2]“

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    Drink distilled water. Andrew Norton Webber and Lisa Harrison do a good discussion on it in YouTube.
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    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    Drink distilled water. Andrew Norton Webber and Lisa Harrison do a good discussion on it in YouTube.
    Distilled water is lacking both structure and minerals.

    I distill my own drinking water, as the last of several stages to remove the "crap" from it (typical municipal water supply.)

    But then I attempt to restore it with
    • Himalayan or Real salt
    • 3 parts Potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) to 1 part Sodium bicarbonate (aka Baking Soda)
    • Magnesium bicarbonate (here's the trick to making it.)
    • Willard water (especially for the sulfates)
    • A splash of lemon juice
    I'm still on the look out for a good way to get it flowing as a vortex in a magnetic field, once the above are added.
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    Default Re: Reverse osmosis filter for removing fluoride and other chemicals

    We have a Berkey water filter which I bought from this website:

    http://www.directive21.com/product-c...ilter-systems/.

    I bought a set of fluoride water filters in addition to the regular black filters that come with it. We just recently moved to a small town north of Vancouver WA and I found out a couple of weeks ago that the city council voted to stop using fluoride in the water supply which they implemented as of last year.

    We really like the water from the Berkey filter, which is a gravity filter. It tastes great and is MUCH better than the distilled water we used to use.

    Table of Impurities and Toxins eliminated by the Black Berkey water filter elements:
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    Contaminants
    Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs)
    Removed to below detectable limits

    VIRUSES >99.999%
    Exceeds purification standards:
    MS2 - Fr Coliphage

    PATHOGENIC BACTERIA, CYSTS AND PARASITES >99.9999%
    Exceeds purification standards:
    E. Coli - Klebsiella - Pseudomonas Aeruginosa - Giardia - Cryptosporidium - Raoultella Terrigena

    TRIHALOMETHANES
    Removed to below detectable limits:
    Bromodichloromethane - Bromoform - Chloroform - Dibromochloromethane
    (Health effects: muscle & nervous system disorders, cancer)

    RADIOLOGICALS
    Removed to below detectable limits:
    Radon 222

    INORGANIC MINERALS
    Removed to below detectable limits:
    Chlorine Residual
    (Health effects: birth defects, cancer)

    Alachlor
    Atrazine
    Benzene
    Carbofuran
    Carbon Tetrachloride
    Chlorine
    Chlorobenzene
    Chloroform
    2,4-D
    DBCP
    p-Dichlorobenzene
    o-Dichlorobenzene
    1,1-Dichloroethane
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    1,1-Dichloroethylene
    cis1,2_Dichloroethylene
    Trans_1,2_Dichloroethylene
    1,2-Dichloropropane
    cis-l,3-Dichloropropylene
    Dinoseb
    Endrin
    Ethylbenzene
    Ethylene Dibromide (EDB)
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    Heptachlor Epoxide
    Hexachlorobutadiene
    Hexachlorocyclopentadiene
    Lindane
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    MTBE
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    The media within the elements remove contaminants by a surface phenomenon known as “adsorption” which results from the molecular attraction of substances to the surface of the media. The exclusive purification elements are also impregnated with proprietary “absorbing” media that promote IONIC “absorption” of pollutants within the micro-porous elements.

    Another reason Berkey water filter systems are so effective in removing contaminants from water is the extremely long “contact period”. Other filtration systems rely on water pressure that forces water molecules through the filter elements at 60-90 PSI. These water molecules come into contact with the filter media for a mere fraction of a second. By comparison water molecules, passing through the “Tortuous Path” structure of the Black Berkey water purification elements, are drawn gently by gravity and stay in contact with the media for a long period of time. This allows the filter media to be more efficient in capturing contaminates. For example, if you were to hurl 100 steel ball bearings at a large magnet, some would stick but most would bounce off. However, if you were to walk over and gently place the ball bearings on the magnet most, if not all, would adhere to the magnet. Berkey water filter systems fully utilize this principle.

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    Default Re: Reverse osmosis filter for removing fluoride and other chemicals

    I would suggest taking a look at the Berkey site, particularly this page:
    http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-.../fluoride.html
    Their claim is that their filters made for removing fluoride (which are in addition to their regular filters) reduce the amount of fluoride in your water by 95%.
    If you look at the webpage, they don't use the term "sodium fluoride" but they do refer to the fluoride that their filters remove as the stuff that is added to municipal water.
    But I have emailed them and asked them if they are referring to sodium fluoride, which is an industrial waste, not naturally occurring fluoride.

    Here is the comparison of Berkey filtered water vs distilled and RO water from:
    http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-...er-filter-faq/

    Quote Which of the three methods of water filtration, reverse osmosis, distillation or Berkey purification is the healthiest for drinking purposes?

    With respect to the healthfulness of the water, most health experts that are up to date on current research are no longer recommending drinking RO or distilled water on a long-term basis because these methods remove all the beneficial minerals from the water making the water an acidic "hypotonic" solution. A chemist will tell you that any time a hypotonic (de-mineralized) solution comes into contact with a "hypertonic" (mineralized) solution, the minerals within the hypertonic solution will transfer out and into the hypotonic solution until equilibrium is achieved. What this means is simply that when one drinks hypotonic water, the minerals in the blood and lymphatic system, which are hypertonic, transfer into the hypotonic RO or distilled water that is consumed and the minerals are flushed out of the body upon urination.

    In an effort to re-mineralize, the blood and lymphatic systems then begin to scavenge for minerals from other parts of the body, such as bones and other organs, and this process repeats itself every time de-mineralized hypotonic water is re-consumed. Several studies suggest that people who drink de-mineralized water (hypotonic) over a long period of time tend to be more prone to degenerative diseases such as osteoporosis.

    Berkey purification systems do not remove the beneficial minerals from the water but they do extract harmful heavy metals such as lead and mercury as well as sedimentary minerals such as iron oxide. Therefore, the TDS (total dissolved solids) reading will not typically change much unless there are a lot of heavy metals or sedimentary minerals in the source water.

    With respect to maintenance, how does reverse osmosis, distillation and Berkey purifier systems compare?

    All Berkey models are easy to disassemble and clean. The lower chamber should be cleaned by hand in dishwater once a month. The Black Berkey elements may need to be cleaned typically after 6-12 months of use.

    Distillation systems remove minerals from the drinking water. These minerals build up on the surface of the container and need to be soaked and cleaned with a 50/50 vinegar solution to remove the scale.

    Reverse osmosis systems can have up to four filter elements, with each needing to be changed at differing intervals from four months up to two years. This requires that the water pressure be shut off and part or all of the system to be disassembled for maintenance. Additionally, the bladder tank should be washed with a chlorine solution at six-month intervals to kill any colonizing bacteria.

    What is the pathological removal capability of a reverse osmosis system vs. the Berkeys?

    Reverse Osmosis does not remove pathogenic bacteria and that is why it is often necessary to add an additional UV light to the system. However, the UV sometimes does not kill all the bacteria because any turbidity in the water can create shaded spots preventing some bacteria from being exposed. Typically, the UV is installed before the bladder tank, however, it is in the bladder tank that bacteria usually colonize. Therefore, if the bladder tank is not sterilized on a regular basis, it becomes a source for bacteriological contamination that is never exposed to UV. Additionally, the carcasses of the dead bacteria remain within the drinking water with an RO system whereas they are removed by the Black Berkey filters.

    With respect to cost, how does reverse osmosis, distillation and Berkey systems compare?

    With respect to upfront cost, RO systems typically are the most expensive due to the cost of the system and the additional expense to have the system plumbed in. Next in cost would be a distillation unit. A Berkey system will typically be the least expensive of the three.

    With respect to cost per gallon of water, calculated upon the cost per gallon for replacement filters and energy costs, distillation systems and RO systems properly maintained typically cost between 35-65 cents per gallon. A Berkey system typically costs about 1.6 cents per gallon.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    Drink distilled water. Andrew Norton Webber and Lisa Harrison do a good discussion on it in YouTube.
    Distilled water is lacking both structure and minerals.

    I distill my own drinking water, as the last of several stages to remove the "crap" from it (typical municipal water supply.)

    But then I attempt to restore it with
    • Himalayan or Real salt
    • 3 parts Potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) to 1 part Sodium bicarbonate (aka Baking Soda)
    • Magnesium bicarbonate (here's the trick to making it.)
    • Willard water (especially for the sulfates)
    • A splash of lemon juice
    I'm still on the look out for a good way to get it flowing as a vortex in a magnetic field, once the above are added.
    All of those are inorganic salts (apart from a splash of fresh lemon) which aren't too easily processed by the body.

    Andrew Norton Webber discusses this and there is a lot of research on his website.


    If you are going to consume a small amount of salt it would be best to be sun dried celtic sea salt.

    Best to drink distilled water (and structure it, I use a living water vortex jug + crystals+Slim Spurling rings) and fresh juices and do regular urine therapy _ see the Taking the Piss Your Own Perfect Medicine thread on here (loads of information on this healing modality).
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    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    All of those are inorganic salts (apart from a splash of fresh lemon) which aren't too easily processed by the body.
    ...
    If you are going to consume a small amount of salt it would be best to be sun dried celtic sea salt.

    Best to drink distilled water (and structure it, I use a living water vortex jug + crystals+Slim Spurling rings) and ...
    The bicarbonate salts (sodium, potassium and magnesium) are readily absorbed by the body, and are important to maintaining what's currently called a more "alkaline" aka higher pH body, meaning more conductive ions in solution, supporting a higher voltage across the cell wall.

    As for celtic sea salt vs Himalayan (or what's quite similar, RealSalt from Utah), they are quite similar. The Celtic sea salts have a higher risk of pollutants, being extracted from recent sea water.

    I also suspect that distilled water won't structure easily; that some conductive ions are required to restore any healthy structure to it. Perhaps one of the living water vortex jug, crystals, or Slim Spurling rings adds minerals to the water? I don't know what these are, other than a general idea what a crystal is, and don't know how you're using them (is the crystal in contact with the water, for example, so that it might remineralize it?)

    The healthy spring waters that are known for their healing properties from various deep wells around the world -do- have substantial mineral content, in the form of various ions that are easily processed and (in my view) actually essential to good health.
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    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    Andrew Norton Webber discusses this and there is a lot of research on his website.
    I'm just now looking at Andrew Norton Webber's material, such as here.

    His statements that the water in the body and in plants, and that rain water, is distilled are misleading, in my view. Such water was once distilled water, it is not still pure distilled water.

    For example, rain water went through a distillation process, when it was evaporated into the air.

    But it won't show up as zero (0) parts per million using a dissolved solids meter, because it has reabsorbed various minerals and ions, in the process of raining and becoming running surface and perhaps later underground water.

    Similarly, in the body and in plants, dissolved mineral ions are essential for life. For example basic cell health depends on maintaining a large excessof Na+ outside the cell and a large excess of K+ ions on the inside (see here). The voltage drop across the cell wall is a key attribute of health.

    I recommend these books:The essential steps to good water are
    1. remove the crud, such as by distilling, then
    2. restore the essentials, including mineral ions in easily absorbed forms and structure.
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    Does anyone know of "good" (affective, health etc.) solutions that can be added to RO water to increase its health benefits. I used one a while back but it worked as a laxative as well. Any ideas or information that is quick and simple to add? That works!

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    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    All of those are inorganic salts (apart from a splash of fresh lemon) which aren't too easily processed by the body.
    Minerals, such as sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium, and sulfur, come in various salts and ionic forms. Such minerals are essential for life, in both plants and animals. What matters is whether they are in a water soluble form. Many of the minerals in ground up rock are not very soluble in water, so will pass through the gut unabsorbed.

    There are desired ranges of input for each mineral (and other nutrient.) Too much or too little will kill you. Salt (sodium-chloride) is essential to life, but drinking just sea water will kill you. The body maintains stores of the major essential minerals and will add to, or extract from, these stores in order to maintain the essential mineral balances in the body fluids. Distilled water isn't deadly, if you have other sources of the essential minerals. Though distilled water has had its structure destroyed, so is more difficult for the kidneys (the main fluid processor in the body) to process.

    Three common problems that "modern day" people face:
    1. Our municipal water and store bought liquids are filled with crap - various toxins, chlorine and fluorine compounds, and so forth. Distillation is valuable for removing most of these compounds (except for the volatile organics.)
    2. Our most common sources of food are becoming deficient in many minerals, due to modern agriculture practices.
    3. Some minerals are especially hard to get in sufficient quantity, such as for example magnesium, as many of its common salts are not very soluble.
    Notice that I specified in the minerals that I restore to my distilled water the bicarbonate forms of sodium, potassium and magnesium. Notice that word "bicarbonate". That means it has "carbon" in it, the chemists essential determining property of an organic compound.

    Sodium, potassium and magnesium bicarbonates are organic, in the meaning that a chemist would use. They have carbon atoms in their molecules.

    Magnesium bicarbonate is particularly interesting here, in that it is one of the few water soluble forms of magnesium. Most magnesium salts don't dissolve very well in water, so are not absorbed from the gut. Magnesium deficiencies are common in modern society. In fact, magnesium bicarbonate only exists in solution, not in dry salt form.
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    Quote Posted by Revere (here)
    Does anyone know of "good" (affective, health etc.) solutions that can be added to RO water to increase its health benefits. I used one a while back but it worked as a laxative as well. Any ideas or information that is quick and simple to add? That works!

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    Back before I got my counter top distiller, I was drinking reverse osmosis (RO) water, and adding to it pretty much the same things that I add to my distilled water now, as I listed in Post #23, above.
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    I purchased the gravity fed Travel Berkey Water Filter a couple of months back after drinking distilled water for about 18 months. I got a back up set of filters including the fluoride ones for the larger version even though I have an artesian well. I also have a couple of the sports size with a bunch of back up filters. Way back when, I stocked up on boat load of brita filters. So I filter the water before I use the Berkey system.

    For my drinking water, I add 3/4 t of Himalayan salt and 1/2 organic lemon to 64 oz of H2O, which not only supplies 80+ minerals and elements, but it also makes the water alkaline.
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    Some of my note on Himalayan Salt:

    10 Amazing Benefits of Pink (Himalayan) Salt

    Why Pink? 

    The many hues of pink, red and white are an indication of this salt’s rich and varying mineral and energy-rich iron content.

    Benefits

    In the same manner that vitamins and minerals are perfectly packaged in fruits and vegetables, because this salt was formed naturally the minerals within the sodium work in synergy.

    (Synergy is the interaction of multiple elements in a system to produce an effect different from or greater than the sum of their individual effects.)

    Iodine- Natural salts are rich in iodine, so it doesn’t need to be artificially added in.

    Packs a hearty 80+ minerals and elements - Himalayan salts are mineral packed crystals which formed naturally within the earth made up of 85.62% sodium chloride and 14.38% other trace minerals including: sulphate, magnesium, calcium, potassium, bicarbonate, bromide, borate, strontium, and fluoride (in descending order of quantity).

    Because of these minerals Himalayan pink salt can:
    • Create an electrolyte balance
    • Increases hydration
    • Regulate water content both inside and outside of cells
    • Balance pH (alkaline/acidity) and help to reduce acid reflux
    • Prevent muscle cramping
    • Aid in proper metabolism functioning
    • Strengthen bones
    • Lower blood pressure
    • Help the intestines absorb nutrients
    • Prevent goiters
    • Improve circulation
    • Dissolve and eliminate sediment to remove toxins

    It is even said to support libido, reduce the signs of aging, and detoxify the body from heavy metals.

    Pink Salt vs. Sea Salt

    Even though pink salts come from the mountains, they are technically sea salts as well. All salt comes from a salted body of water—namely, an ocean or salt-water lake. However, Himalayan salt is said to be the purest form of sea salt.

    Why Table Salt is Inferior

    Commercial refined salt is not only stripped of all its minerals, besides sodium and chloride, but is also chemically cleaned, bleached and heated at unnecessary high temperatures.
    In addition, it is treated with anti-caking agents which prevent salt from mixing with water in the salt container. These agents also prevent dissolving within our system leading to build up and then deposit in organs and tissue, causing severe health problems.

    Finally, the iodine that is added into salt is usually synthetic which is difficult for your body to process properly. Shockingly under U.S. law, up to 2% of table salt can be additives.

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    I just got this email message, after sending an inquiry to this site:
    http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-...FRFnOgod3QQAtA
    which came up first when I did a search for Berkey water filters.

    Quote We are the leading distributor of Berkey filters and as far as I know the filters have not been tested for the removal of sodium fluoride. There is a possibility that they remove sodium fluoride but there are no testes to prove it.

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    What is being used now in most communities, as I understand it, is something that vendors (some of them in China) are calling "sodium fluoride" which is not the fluoride that occurs in Nature, but is a mixture of toxic byproducts from chemical manufacturing including arsenic and lead.
    The companies that are selling this brew are not responding to water district's inquiries as to what is in the mixtures, but the tests they have seen show them to be full of toxins and very dangerous to handle, much less ingest.
    Yet the state's officials continue to require these toxins be added to the water, even though they have been informed of these problems.
    I was thinking about buying a Berkey once the mandate is actually put into effect locally, but I'm not sure now what I will do about dish and bath water.
    I've been getting drinking water from friends who live in the country and have a good well.
    I sure wish I could afford to move to the country!
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    Default Re: Reverse osmosis filter for removing fluoride and other chemicals

    A new message from customerservice@berkeyfilters.com:
    Quote I took the liberty of contacting the manufacturer concerning your question and they state that the PF2s do reduce all types of fluoride, including the Sodium Fluoride you are concerned about. I am including the information they provided at the end of this page.
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    She sent me a pdf which I don't know how to copy, so I asked her to send the info as text in an email, which I will post here if she does so.
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    Here's what the pdf says:
    Quote PF-2/PF-4 Fluoride Reduction Media Information
    (Extract from Proprietary Products Data Information Sheets)
    PRODUCT INFORMATION:
    The Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media is a new and improved high yield aluminum oxide
    especially formulated for the removal of Fluoride and arsenic from drinking water. This media
    has an unusually high surface area of more than 350 sq.m./gram of material which allows
    more efficient removal of the Fluoride and arsenic ions. This high surface area is enhanced
    by controlled development of the pore size distribution from 30Angstroms to 100Angstroms,
    providing greater accessibility to the surface active sites through bulk diffusion.
    Uniform particle size low silica content and high purity, is characteristic of the new and
    improved Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media which insures effective operation in the
    reduction of Fluoride. The extremely low silica content significantly reduces the tendency of
    the silica to form silicone tetra fluoride which reacts with both the media and the pipes leading
    to clogging and corrosion problems.
    PRODUCT APPLICATION:
    The Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media is an EPA approved method for removing Fluoride
    from drinking water. This product can be used in various filtration products and can also be
    packed in large columns for high volume applications including drinking water treatment
    plants and waste treatment plants. The Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media can be used in
    various applications where defluorination is necessary.
    For maximum removal efficiency, maintain the water being treated between a PH level of 5-7.
    The media can be regenerated for enhanced performance lifetime with many applications.
    This makes the Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media the most effective and economical
    defluorination product on the market.
    TYPICAL PHYSICAL PROPERTIES OF PROPRIETARY FLUORIDE REDUCTION MEDIA:
    Surface Area, sq. m/g. 350
    Total Pore volume, cc./g. .55
    Aluminum Oxide XRD Phase Chi, Gamma, Amorphous
    Crush Strength, lbs (kg) 30 (14)
    Abrasion Loss wt% 0.1
    Bulk Density, lbs/cu. ft (kg/cu. m) 47 (750)
    TYPICAL CHEMICAL PROPERTIES OF PROPRIETARY FLUORIDE REDUCTION MEDIA:
    Wt %
    AL2O3 95.1
    SiO2 0.02
    Fe2O3 0.02
    Na2O 0.30

    GENERAL INFORMATION:
    The Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media has been specially prepared to optimize the media
    for more efficient removal of the Fluoride ion. Testing of the material is important for each
    application as influent water PH, quality and purify of the water and various metal ion
    concentrations are all variables which influence the effectiveness of the media. Note that the
    material is most efficient between a PH of 5 and 7 with PH=5 preferred.
    Testing for fluoride removal was based on 20-30 ppm of the ion in the influent aqueous
    solution at a flow rate of no more than 3 gpm per cubic foot (25kg) of media. Results of < 1
    ppm of the fluoride ion in the effluent were typical for the media. Under optimum conditions,
    effluent concentrations of less than 50 ppb of Fluoride ion were found to be readily achieved.
    Results may vary significantly with each particular application.
    OTHER INFORMATION:
    1. Calcium & Sodium Fluoride. The Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media will remove any
    types of inorganic fluoride salts. All fluoride salts are soluble in water. So it does not matter
    what fluoride salts that are in the water, fluoride is present as an anion where the media will
    absorb fluoride ions in water.
    2. Hydro-Fluorosilicic Acid (HFS). We do not have any test data to show how efficient the
    Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media will remove hydro-fluosilicic acid. But by adsorption of
    fluoride anion using alumina, we believe the media will remove hydro-fluosilicic acid better
    than fluoride. The reason is both compounds are ions with negative charges. The molecular
    size of hydrofluosilicic acid is much larger than the fluoride ion and hydrofluosilicic acid has
    two negative charges where as fluoride has only one negative charge. So this negative
    charge makes hydrofluosislicic acid much easier to adsorb to the media compared to regular
    fluoride ions.
    3. NMCL obtains its Proprietary Fluoride Reduction Media from a third party that
    manufactures specialized media that targets difficult to remove contaminates, such as
    Fluoride and Arsenic. The above information provided has been extracted from the supplier’s
    data sheets and other written communications
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    Default Re: Reverse osmosis filter for removing fluoride and other chemicals

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Connecting with Sauce (here)
    Drink distilled water. Andrew Norton Webber and Lisa Harrison do a good discussion on it in YouTube.
    Distilled water is lacking both structure and minerals.

    I distill my own drinking water, as the last of several stages to remove the "crap" from it (typical municipal water supply.)

    But then I attempt to restore it with
    • Himalayan or Real salt
    • 3 parts Potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) to 1 part Sodium bicarbonate (aka Baking Soda)
    • Magnesium bicarbonate (here's the trick to making it.)
    • Willard water (especially for the sulfates)
    • A splash of lemon juice
    I'm still on the look out for a good way to get it flowing as a vortex in a magnetic field, once the above are added.
    I got hold of a cheap science toy vortex machine. Its a plastic tube which holds about a litre of water with an offset spinner in the bottom which when plugged in creates a vortex in the whole of the tube. It also has some led lights which change colour! Strap a magnet to the side and hey presto!

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