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    For the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in Vatican City, discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is undoubtedly the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962. Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.” While some traditionalists and conservative reactionaries on the far right have decried these efforts, they have delighted progressives around the world.

    The Third Vatican Council concluded today with Pope Francis announcing that Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

    “Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.

    In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”

    One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria. “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

    In addition to the Pope’s sweeping calls for tolerance and a new progressive understanding of Catholicism, he condemned racism, raising his voice and pounding the podium in front of him. Pope Francis spent over an hour castigating anti-immigrant politicians, parties and individuals. Wagging his finger sternly with righteous indignation, the Pope shouted “Racism today is the ultimate evil in the world. When Italians, Spanish or French turn back the boats of African migrants seeking a better life, are they not like the inn keeper who told Mary and Joseph that there was no room for them and the infant Christ? These migrants are children of God and we are commanded to love them!”

    His voice loudly echoing through St. Peter’s basilica, the Pope stated “those who would dare to turn immigrants away, be they legal or undocumented, turn their backs on Christ himself! A racist is not a true Christian. A racist casts aside his humanity to become a beast, a demon! He is the embodiment and personification of evil, a Satan!”

    To a chorus of thunderous applause, Pope Francis stated “because Muslims, Hindus and African Animists are also made in the very likeness and image of God, to hate them is to hate God! To reject them to is to reject God and the Gospel of Christ. Whether we worship at a church, a synagogue, a mosque or a mandir, it does not matter. Whether we call God, Jesus, Adonai, Allah or Krishna, we all worship the same God of love. This truth is self-evident to all who have love and humility in their hearts!”

    In a announcement that shocked many people, Pope Francis warned that “those who seek to deny a home to the migrant, to the African and the Muslim, risk their membership in the church. We will consider excommunication for those whose souls willingly dwell in the darkness and evil of intolerance and racism. Satan himself is a metaphor or a personification, for the collective evils of mankind. Today, these evils manifest foremost as racism, intolerance, religious persecution and bigotries of all kinds.”

    A couple of prominent Catholic cardinals have responded to Pope Francis’ declarations by leaving the church. Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria asked, “what do we stand for if we declare that truth is relative? On the contrary, truth exists independently of our personal feelings. All of this talk of love and tolerance is hollow if we have no identity of our own, if we stand for nothing. I charge that Francis has become a heretic, and that he is not a valid Pope. Indeed, Francis is no longer even a Catholic. The seat of Saint Peter is vacant. I am now a Sedevacantist. I should have become one long ago. The Vatican has embraced ecumenism in the past, but worse than that, it has now embraced moral relativism on abortion and homosexuality. At the same time it is embracing moral absolutism in favour of illegal immigration and cultural genocide against Europe.”

    In his most controversial statement, Cardinal Arinze said “Islam has overrun my own country, and now it threatens to overrun Europe. Some parts of Nigeria now live under Islamic Sharia law. Catholics there are no longer free to practice their faith publicly. Francis is a fool if he thinks that his liberal immigration policy will end well. He has betrayed western civilization. Vatican City will one day become a giant mosque if things continue in Europe along their present course. Those in the West who ignore this truth, do so at their own peril.”

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Making way for a/the new global religion... Step four.
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    Quote Posted by Dracon (here)
    Making way for a/the new global religion... Step four.
    LOL, I was just thinking the same thing!!

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    Quote Posted by Dracon (here)
    Making way for a/the new global religion... Step four.
    LOL, I was just thinking the same thing!!
    Me too! we're all far too skeptical...lol!

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    I am happy there is no hell, for all the good people who thought they were doomed (i am not sure for the psychopaths leading us, no hell!!! Ha... they already did not believe in it anyhow, so it did not effect their behavior).

    I like those kind of thinking, but, what I see is a one world religions that Catholic will try to take the lead in transforming religions.

    I would vote for no more religions altogether...

    And why don't they plainly just say the truth such as "gods in the bible are extra terrestrial or dimensional beings, such as humans are extremely poweful when in full use of their abilities, etc.

    The Vatican is actually proning full love, but without full truth. Full blind love leads to stupidity, we have seen in many time. Love and wisdom are necessary, love and truth, to have wisdom.

    The new religion should may be be: LOVE AND TRUTH FOR ALL
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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Will have to look more into this one, I have found it alleged that the whole story - from start to finish - is a fabrication.

    http://amadanesi.com/2013/12/28/fake...ligions-equal/

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    http://loveofconscience.com/tag/pope-francis/

    Fitting, I made a post earlier today about credulity,....
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    Quote Posted by halffull (here)
    For the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in Vatican City, discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is undoubtedly the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962. Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.” While some traditionalists and conservative reactionaries on the far right have decried these efforts, they have delighted progressives around the world.

    The Third Vatican Council concluded today with Pope Francis announcing that Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

    “Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.

    In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”

    One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria. “God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”

    In addition to the Pope’s sweeping calls for tolerance and a new progressive understanding of Catholicism, he condemned racism, raising his voice and pounding the podium in front of him. Pope Francis spent over an hour castigating anti-immigrant politicians, parties and individuals. Wagging his finger sternly with righteous indignation, the Pope shouted “Racism today is the ultimate evil in the world. When Italians, Spanish or French turn back the boats of African migrants seeking a better life, are they not like the inn keeper who told Mary and Joseph that there was no room for them and the infant Christ? These migrants are children of God and we are commanded to love them!”

    His voice loudly echoing through St. Peter’s basilica, the Pope stated “those who would dare to turn immigrants away, be they legal or undocumented, turn their backs on Christ himself! A racist is not a true Christian. A racist casts aside his humanity to become a beast, a demon! He is the embodiment and personification of evil, a Satan!”

    To a chorus of thunderous applause, Pope Francis stated “because Muslims, Hindus and African Animists are also made in the very likeness and image of God, to hate them is to hate God! To reject them to is to reject God and the Gospel of Christ. Whether we worship at a church, a synagogue, a mosque or a mandir, it does not matter. Whether we call God, Jesus, Adonai, Allah or Krishna, we all worship the same God of love. This truth is self-evident to all who have love and humility in their hearts!”

    In a announcement that shocked many people, Pope Francis warned that “those who seek to deny a home to the migrant, to the African and the Muslim, risk their membership in the church. We will consider excommunication for those whose souls willingly dwell in the darkness and evil of intolerance and racism. Satan himself is a metaphor or a personification, for the collective evils of mankind. Today, these evils manifest foremost as racism, intolerance, religious persecution and bigotries of all kinds.”

    A couple of prominent Catholic cardinals have responded to Pope Francis’ declarations by leaving the church. Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria asked, “what do we stand for if we declare that truth is relative? On the contrary, truth exists independently of our personal feelings. All of this talk of love and tolerance is hollow if we have no identity of our own, if we stand for nothing. I charge that Francis has become a heretic, and that he is not a valid Pope. Indeed, Francis is no longer even a Catholic. The seat of Saint Peter is vacant. I am now a Sedevacantist. I should have become one long ago. The Vatican has embraced ecumenism in the past, but worse than that, it has now embraced moral relativism on abortion and homosexuality. At the same time it is embracing moral absolutism in favour of illegal immigration and cultural genocide against Europe.”

    In his most controversial statement, Cardinal Arinze said “Islam has overrun my own country, and now it threatens to overrun Europe. Some parts of Nigeria now live under Islamic Sharia law. Catholics there are no longer free to practice their faith publicly. Francis is a fool if he thinks that his liberal immigration policy will end well. He has betrayed western civilization. Vatican City will one day become a giant mosque if things continue in Europe along their present course. Those in the West who ignore this truth, do so at their own peril.”

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    http://diversitychronicle.wordpress....tican-council/
    I believe this article is false and nonsense.....go to the Vatican site and read the actual speech to double check.
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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    The Bible or rather the writings within the book are the base of Christian faith, it just says to me the Pope and his so called church are more interested in their own image and beliefs. It just reinforces that all religions are man made, based upon power, ignorance, arrogant and manipulation. What makes you think the Vatican Council knows any more about creation that many of the worlds population. With the history of the Catholic church they are in no position to decide what is and what is not, it is for each individual through their own experiences to find the truth, not being dictated to by a church responsible for murder, criminal activities and the like.

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Well if it is a fake story, which it seems to be, it is a good one lol...... it allowed me to define the new religion principles lol.....

    And I thought that if Adam was a fable, some where going to have a problem with it. lol

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    When you learn the Truth, of Who, and What, WE really are, y'all are gonna look back and laugh, as I did. ccc.
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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    If it is fake its good entertainment

    I was laughing with a friend who remembers when I had an argument with a nun about Adam and Eve almost half a century ago

    I said, so sister we were created from incest, oh no she said, Adam and Eve went on to have more children, so incest I repeated

    my friend was giggling

    Then I said so sister it said in the bible when Cain killed Able a mark was put on Cain's forehead to let the people know he was a murderer, she nodded

    What people were they I said, she went red in the face and said she did not have time to argue such nonsense

    Only today, that same friend and I were laughing about that conversation

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Have any of you read the bible? LMAO

    Re-read Genesis. Adam was created, if you look, after human beings were created.

    Oh that makes for an interesting point! Especially if you want to take the stance of genetic manipulation!

    Chapter 1, verse 26:

    Then God said, “And now we will make human beings; they will be like us and resemble us. They will have power over the fish, the birds, and all animals, domestic and wild,[d] large and small.” 27 So God created human beings, making them to be like himself. He created them male and female, 28 blessed them, and said, “Have many children, so that your descendants will live all over the earth and bring it under their control. I am putting you in charge of the fish, the birds, and all the wild animals. 29 I have provided all kinds of grain and all kinds of fruit for you to eat; 30 but for all the wild animals and for all the birds I have provided grass and leafy plants for food”—and it was done. 31 God looked at everything he had made, and he was very pleased. Evening passed and morning came—that was the sixth day.

    Chapter 2, verse 7:

    Then the Lord God took some soil from the ground and formed a man out of it; he breathed life-giving breath into his nostrils and the man began to live.

    tolle, lege!

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    damn. too bad it isn't real. i got excited about all the furor about to be raised.

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Yeah

    And now WE will make human beings, they will be like US and resemble US. And people still think the bible was talking about one God

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)


    Senior Vatican Priest.

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    The "Diversity Chronicle" is pretty much fake news. They have put out other stories that snopes has debunked.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/francis.asp

    Yes, the Roman Catholic church is entering the modern world, but at a snail's pace.

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Quote Posted by halffull (here)
    Yeah

    And now WE will make human beings, they will be like US and resemble US. And people still think the bible was talking about one God
    When you look out a dirty window, you see the world through a dirty window. You react to the world as if it is as you see it through a dirty window.

    The thing I laugh the most about, especially in what I'm beginning to understand as the "alt" community, is just how many dirty windows there are, and how many people claim to be window cleaners. XD

    Try reading it, and then anything, with a clean window.

    Ah, that's the problem. How does one clean one's window?

    I feel a long, long post coming on about window cleaning.

    Here endeth the lesson, sayeth the janitor.

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    Default Pope admits there is no hell, adam and eve are not real (Satire - see Post #28)

    Quote Posted by Milneman (here)
    Quote Posted by halffull (here)
    Yeah

    And now WE will make human beings, they will be like US and resemble US. And people still think the bible was talking about one God
    When you look out a dirty window, you see the world through a dirty window. You react to the world as if it is as you see it through a dirty window.

    The thing I laugh the most about, especially in what I'm beginning to understand as the "alt" community, is just how many dirty windows there are, and how many people claim to be window cleaners. XD

    Try reading it, and then anything, with a clean window.

    Ah, that's the problem. How does one clean one's window?

    I feel a long, long post coming on about window cleaning.

    Here endeth the lesson, sayeth the janitor.
    And sometimes it becomes not a question of clean or dirty; but a question of how you even started worshiping windows in the first place.

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