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    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
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    I have also heard that all mention of sugar in processed foods could also be GMO beet sugar. And since about 90% of beets are GMO, we are being poisoned coming and going between aspartame and GMOs....sigh...

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    Hi Avid,

    Thanks for reminding us.

    You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.

    Now I have to say, refined (white) sugar is also a poison, but not as bad as that aspartame. UN-Refined cane sugar is healthiest if you can get it.

    Personaly, I think people will have to start doing for themselves again. Bake their own bread, jucie their own food etc.

    It is a total disgrace and this issue should be talked about much more. Maybe people will agree to boycott foods that contain aspartame and other neurotoxins,

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    Last edited by Sean Cullen; 10th January 2014 at 22:10. Reason: UNrefined cane sugar not Refined - aargh!
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    Hi Avid,

    Thanks for reminding us.

    You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.

    Now I have to say, refined (white) sugar is also a poison, but not as bad as that aspartame. Refined cane sugar is healthiest if you can get it.

    Personaly, I think people will have to start doing for themselves again. Bake their own bread, jucie their own food etc.

    It is a total disgrace and this issue should be talked about much more. Maybe people will agree to boycott foods that contain aspartame and other neurotoxins,

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    Grow stevia in your yard. It requires almost no care and tastes better than sugar.

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    You are so right, and it is so sad.. It is almost impossible to buy, for example, fruit cordials that do not have aspartame or other neurotoxins instead of sugar. In fact, the manufacturers target people who are trying to shop healthily by putting in a large banner across the labels which read something like; "NO ADDED SUGAR!" while hiding in very small print on the back label 'aspartame'... It is getting harder and harder to buy food, even the staples, such as baked goods without aspartame or similar.
    I can't help but think of all the poor Mums who think they are doing the right thing and buying into this!!
    Aspartame is even in the ordinary squash. Makes my blood boil. Choice is becoming more and more limited.
    DIY is defiantly the way to go, that is ,if you can afford it!!

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    There is much evidence that sugar and aspartame are not healthy to say the least.
    Best to do without both if possible.
    Its not necessary to consume processed food or soft drinks.
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    I avoid any kind of processed food and light products if I can (I know I don't die if I eat it but I never buy it )
    I like butter, eggs, fat, meat, sugar, milk (the good old kind), but also vegetables. I smoke, I like a beer now and then, (more when I was 'young'),
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    Edit: OH, I forgot, I am a big consumer of cheese
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    I use mainly raw honey, sometimes stevia, evaporated cane juice (rapadura, panella), or coconut sugar. Artificial sweeteners, white sugar, and high fructose corn syrup I avoid completely. It would make me sad when I would see kids at my son's preschool being given low fat food with artificial sweeteners by parents who I knew were trying to do the right thing .

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    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.

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    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    So you only eat protein and fat?
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.
    Xylitol is one of the better ones for certain - but in moderation -- excess can irritate your GI tract. The good thing about sugar alcohols (like xylitol) don't feed microorganisms.

    My defense against sugar and sweet artificial chemicals is to avoid anything sweet. I generally have come to dislike very sweet foods. It seems more an addiction to me than anything, because after I went cold turkey on sweet tasting stuff, my cravings eventually completely vanished.

    If people want sweets, eat some fruit - at least you'll be getting nutrients with your sweets
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    I am not sure about xylitol. I have read many things that claim it is highly processed and often made from gm corn (rather than tradirtional birch bark) and thus should be avoided. but overall i agree...all sugar should be used sparingly. It should only be a small part of our diet.
    What you have read is true, that's why you have to buy from a good source that produces it from the Birch tree. The best of the best is The Ultimate Sugar by the company that produces an amazing powdered meal called The Ultimate Meal.
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by avid (here)
    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    So you only eat protein and fat?
    I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

    Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.
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    Yes and all those plants are using the sun to make...wait for it......that's right sugar.
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    Yes and all those plants are using the sun to make...wait for it......that's right sugar.
    Plants make sugar to feed and provide the energy to make the nutrients, not to be refined and processed for human consumption.

    But like I said - people should really get their sugar from whole foods - fruits have nice balance of sugar and nutrients (vitamins, bioflavonoids, fibre, etc)

    If I need to sweeten up my spareribs on the grill, I squeeze an apple over it. Apple and pork goes great! That said, I do put about 1/4th of spoon of raw sugar in morning coffee.
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    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    So you only eat protein and fat?
    I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

    Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.
    Now you've done it; see there you said glucose; that's sugar (which is death; right).
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    Default Re: The 'Sugar' scare in MSM - another con for aspartame type poisons

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    A fake carry-on about 'sugar' is in the mainstream media, BBC et al....
    The 'sugar' additives in most foods now are fake, addictive aspartame brain and immune-destroying chemicals. Try buying anything with real sugar - it's all about promoting 'sugar-free' poisons. They are pushing us more into this fiasco. Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar, honey (which is fantastic for health). I reckon they are using the word 'sugar' in the mainstream for tons of addictive crap - totally misleadingly. The reality of the meaning of the word SUGAR is being mispresented. I am furious about this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...h-experts.html
    Careful, or you will lose your audience. To state that "Real sugar does no harm, especially unbleached or raw sugar" is an egregious untruth! Sugar is death. You cannot argue otherwise.

    Even my cherished and beloved raw honey is used in small amounts. In excess it will damage you. It is not totally without risk. Sugar is sugar is sugar. You can't find a way around that. That said, there are sugars that pose less risk. Xylitol is one. Coconut flower sugar is another. But they must be used spareingly and not terribly often.

    I do agree with you basic thread premise, that they are using this faux concern in order to sell more expensive artificial sweeteners. And they may have a more harmful agenda.
    So you only eat protein and fat?
    I see you over there, you're trying to trick me! Of course I don't eat only protein and fat, but anyone could and maintain a very healthful lifestyle. The body can make the necessary glucose from the proteins. Many indigenous cultures eat predominately fats and meat. They have no disease. Many natural researchers are beginning to believe that our diets should be upwards of 50% to 70% fat! It does have to be from electrically alive, unprocessed and unheated fats (Dr. Johanna Budwig for a serious lesson on fats).

    Lots of green plant material is a boost to any diet, not totally because of it's nutrients. The Sun imparts distinct energies into the plants, which the plants then share with us. Minimal cooking or no cooking is best. Will, I'll shut up, I'm buzzing on my new Longevity Coffee.
    Now you've done it; see there you said glucose; that's sugar (which is death; right).
    Ah come on. You know that's petty. You know the context of the discussion. Totally different. What the body produces is exactly what it needs and is more a nutrient than a sugar.

    Even fruit sugar is harmful in excess. Fortunately the fiber slows the absorption of the sugar and keeps the insulin from spiking. That's the main issue with sugar is the hormonal aggravation. It totally confuses the endocrine system and results in metabolic syndromes, heart disease, diabetes, and more.

    And never forget that cancers favorite food is sugar.
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    Default Re: The 'Sugar' scare in MSM - another con for aspartame type poisons

    But Conk, you said "sugar is sugar is sugar" remember that?
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